House rejects $700B bailout in stunning defeat

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First Posted: 09-28-08 12:52 AM   |   Updated: 10-28-08 05:12 AM

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WASHINGTON — In a vote that shook the government, Wall Street and markets around the world, the House on Monday defeated a $700 billion emergency rescue for the nation's financial system, leaving both parties' lawmakers and the Bush administration scrambling to pick up the pieces. Dismayed investors sent the Dow Jones industrials plunging 777 points, the most ever for a single day.

"We need to put something back together that works," a grim-faced Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said after he and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke joined in an emergency strategy session at the White House. On Capitol Hill, Democratic leaders said the House would reconvene Thursday, leaving open the possibility that it could salvage a reworked version.

Senate leaders showed no inclination to try to bring the measure to a vote before they could determine its fate in the House. President Bush, meanwhile, was scheduled to make a statement on the rescue plan Tuesday morning, the White House said.

All sides agreed the effort to bolster beleaguered financial markets, potentially the biggest government intervention since the Great Depression, could not be abandoned.

But in a remarkable display on Monday, a majority of House members slapped aside the best version their leaders and the administration had been able to come up with, bucking presidential speeches, pleading visits from Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and urgent warnings that the economy could nosedive without the legislation.

In the face of thousands of phone calls and e-mails fiercely opposing the measure, many lawmakers were not willing to take the political risk of voting for it just five weeks before the elections.

The bill went down, 228-205.

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The House Web site was overwhelmed as millions of people sought information about the measure through the day.

The legislation the administration promoted would have allowed the government to buy bad mortgages and other sour assets held by troubled banks and other financial institutions. Getting those debts off their books should bolster those companies' balance sheets, making them more inclined to lend and ease one of the biggest choke points in a national credit crisis. If the plan worked, the thinking went, it would help lift a major weight off the national economy, which is already sputtering.

Hoping to pick up enough GOP votes for the next try, Republicans floated several ideas. One would double the $100,000 ceiling on federal deposit insurance. Another would end rules that require companies to devalue assets on their books to reflect the price they could get in the market.

In the meantime, Paulson said he would work with other regulators "to use all the tools available to protect our financial system and our economy."

"Our tool kit is substantial but insufficient," he said, indicating the government intended to continue piecemeal fixes while pressing Congress for broader action.

Stocks started plummeting on Wall Street even before Monday's vote was over, as traders watched the rescue measure going down on television. Meanwhile, lawmakers were watching them back.

As a digital screen in the House chamber recorded a cascade of "no" votes against the bailout, Democratic Rep. Joe Crowley of New York shouted news of the falling Dow Jones industrials. "Six hundred points!" he yelled, jabbing his thumb downward.

The final stock carnage far surpassed the 684-point drop on the first trading day after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

In the House, "no" votes came from both the Democratic and Republican sides of the aisle. More than two-thirds of Republicans and 40 percent of Democrats opposed the bill. Several Democrats in close election fights waited until the last moment, then went against the bill as it became clear the vast majority of Republicans were opposing it.

Thirteen of the 19 most vulnerable Republicans and Democrats in an Associated Press analysis voted against the bill despite the pleas from Bush and their party leaders to pass it.

In all, 65 Republicans joined 140 Democrats in voting "yes," while 133 Republicans and 95 Democrats voted "no."

The overriding question was what to do next.

"The legislation may have failed; the crisis is still with us," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., in a news conference after the defeat. "What happened today cannot stand."

Republican leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, the minority leader, said he and other Republicans were pained to back the measure, but in light of the potential consequences for the economy and all Americans, "We need to renew our efforts to find a solution that Congress can support."

Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., said there was scant time to reopen legislation that was the product of hard-fought bipartisan negotiations.

"What happened today was not a failure of a bill, it was a failure of will," said Dodd, the Banking Committee chairman. "Our hope is that cooler heads will prevail, people will think about what they did today and recognize that this is not just scare tactics _ it's reality."

A brutal round of partisan finger-pointing followed the vote.

Republicans blamed Pelosi's scathing speech near the close of the debate _ which assailed Bush's economic policies and a "right-wing ideology of anything goes, no supervision, no discipline, no regulation" of financial markets _ for the defeat. It was not much different from her usual tough words against the president and his party.

"We could have gotten there today had it not been for the partisan speech that the speaker gave on the floor of the House," Boehner said.

Rep. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., the whip, estimated that Pelosi's speech changed the minds of a dozen Republicans who might otherwise have supported the plan.

That amounted to an appalling accusation by Republicans against Republicans, said Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman of the Financial Services Committee: "Because somebody hurt their feelings, they decide to punish the country."

More than a repudiation of Democrats, Frank said, Republicans' refusal to vote for the bailout was a rejection of their own president.

Indeed, many GOP lawmakers spurned Bush's urgent calls for action. "We have a gun to our head," said Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, R-Fla., who opposed the bill. "This isn't legislation _ it's extortion."

The two men campaigning to replace Bush watched the situation closely _ from afar _ and demanded action.

In Iowa, Republican John McCain said his rival Barack Obama and congressional Democrats "infused unnecessary partisanship into the process. Now is not the time to fix the blame; it's time to fix the problem."

Obama said, "Democrats, Republicans, step up to the plate, get it done."

Lawmakers were under extraordinary pressure from powerful outside groups, which gave notice they considered the legislation a "key vote" _ one they would consider when rating members of Congress.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce said opponents of the bailout would pay for their stance.

"Make no mistake: When the aftermath of congressional inaction becomes clear, Americans will not tolerate those who stood by and let the calamity happen," said R. Bruce Josten, the Chamber's top lobbyist, in a letter to members.

The conservative Club for Growth made a similar threat to supporters of the bailout.

"We're all worried about losing our jobs," Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., declared in an impassioned speech in support of the bill before the vote. "Most of us say, 'I want this thing to pass, but I want you to vote for it _ not me.'"

"We're in this moment, and if we fail to do the right thing, Heaven help us," he said.

If Congress doesn't come around on a bailout, more pressure would fall on the Federal Reserve.

The Fed, which has been providing billions in short-term loans to squeezed banks to help them overcome credit stresses, could keep expanding those loans to encourage lending. And, it could keep working with other central banks to inject billions into financial markets overseas.

It also has the power to expand emergency lending to other types of companies and even to individuals if they are unable to secure adequate credit.

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Associated Press writers Jeannine Aversa, Jim Abrams and Andrew Taylor contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — In a vote that shook the government, Wall Street and markets around the world, the House on Monday defeated a $700 billion emergency rescue for the nation's financial system, leavin...
WASHINGTON — In a vote that shook the government, Wall Street and markets around the world, the House on Monday defeated a $700 billion emergency rescue for the nation's financial system, leavin...
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So, what's wrong that this giveaway didn't pass? If Obama was smart he'd come up with an alternate proposal... see a few things suggested by Dean Baker http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dean-baker/the-bailout-round-ii-adul_b_130418.htmll).

This is nothing but highway robbery foisted on us by Wall Street and turned into an emergency by the Bush administration to get what the want. Democrats should not be supporting this raping of the American public and Obama should take the principled position and come up with an alternative.

He'd also appeal to a lot of conservative voters by opposing this fiasco.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 AM on 09/30/2008

Learn some economics before you start opposing something you do no understand.

I hope when your boss stops paying you or you get laid off things become clear to you.

People who are in opposition to the bail out are ignorant.

They are not giving them 700 billion to them right off the bat, get a brain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:46 AM on 09/30/2008
- cayuse I'm a Fan of cayuse 15 fans permalink
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You are right

This is the Milton Freedman Vs. Keynesian economics. Trickle Down vs. Keynessian GUNS vs. Butter

We need the money in the hands of the consumers so they can buy.

We need Industry in America so we can buy American

This quick fix will Fix Obama from bring real economic growth to America for about 10 years

Check out the Austrian view of our Great Depression it is exacly what is happening right now without all of the politics you speak up. PEOPLE stay smart and oppose this plan

The more money they throw at the market will only take away FDIC available fund if they are needed in the future. Best case the people responsible will pay for their crimes

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 09/30/2008

If you knew anything about economics you would know that Kenynes has been completly debunked, Freidman was the third winner of the Nobel Prize in econmics. Keynes won nothing but the scorne of the modern economist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 09/30/2008
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When your boss tells you that if the economy continues to tank he'll have to lay you off, you get a better perspective. Most people are living pay check to paycheck, and when the checks stop? What then? Soup kitchens, if we're lucky? These as*holes on here screaming that wall street should pay have no idea what is about to happen to the rest of the country. this isn't just about wall street -- and anyone who tells you that is either misinformed or rich enough that they won't be hurt when the whole thing falls apart.

I'm just afraid the republicans will continue to try to spin this until it's too late -- and the loud mouths on the radical left who think that we need to destroy the system in order to fix it, will get their wish.

But of course it will be the poor who suffer the most as the sh*t hits the fan. They always do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 AM on 09/30/2008

About ten years ago I went to Ohio where my mother grew up. Niles, near Youngstown. She told me how during the Depression there was a soup line a hundred yards long every day in front of her house. Children would faint from hunger. Is this what we want for our children? If we aren't willing to save ourselves from this disaster, at least let's save our children from it. Perhaps we should look for local effects that have already occurred... Do you know anyone who has been hurt by it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 AM on 09/30/2008
- wassilij I'm a Fan of wassilij 7 fans permalink
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This is a GREAT success for the American people!!.We will not allow these rat bastards to swindle us into this B.S. economic crisis.LET THEM BLEED!!It"s too bad that these ass _ _ _ _ politicians are invested in this corrupt scheme,They created it- let them get their asses on the line for a change without using the taxpayer as a lifeboat.Keep calling your reps in congress to let them know that you don't want this bailout B.S. It's close to the election and we are watching how they vote.We will not put up with their fear mongering any more.This is all a pattern we are very familiar with! They will not fool us again into submission!They will try to force this down our throats again later this week but if we continue to just say NO BAILOUT!!!!!Remember, it is still 'WE THE PEOPLE ' who are the deciders.Apparently G.W Bush didn't get the message !! NO BAILOUT!! NOT NOW!! NOT LATER!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 AM on 09/30/2008
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Have a look below if you want to see interesting numbers-

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 09/30/2008
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Don't believe the hype.

You are being misled to by the media. They want the average Joe to get scared and cave in.

This was NOT the biggest single day stock market loss. Yes, 700 points was the largest point drop ever but NOT the largest percentage drop. It's percentages that count. In '94 there was a 20% single day drop. Today was just 7%.

WAKE UP PEOPLE. YOU ARE BEING MANIPULATED INTO SUPPORTING YOUR OWN FLEECING!!!

There are real problems to address with the economy, to be sure. This scam is NOT the way to do it... by a long shot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 09/30/2008
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Don't believe the hype.

You are being lied to by the media. They want the weak minded to get scared and cave in.

This was NOT the biggest single day stock market loss. Yes, 700 points was the largest point drop ever but NOT the largest percentage drop. It's percentages that count. In '94 there was a 20% single day drop. Today was just 7%.

WAKE UP PEOPLE. YOU ARE BEING MANIPULATED INTO SUPPORTING YOUR OWN FLEECING!!!

There are real problems to address with the economy, to be sure. This scam is NOT the way to do it... by a long shot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 09/30/2008
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maybe not, but at least it would slow it down until it could be fixed. right now, it's an out of control freight train and comments like yours don't help at all.

CaptainHowdy, you're an irresponsible and uninformed jughead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 09/30/2008
- gavrielle I'm a Fan of gavrielle 24 fans permalink

No, you are uninformed. We do NOT need a bailout from the top down. We need it from the bottom up, starting with the housing crisis where it all began.

The people have said no and the people aren't stupid. We know what you want and we won't let you have it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 AM on 09/30/2008
- GJP2006 I'm a Fan of GJP2006 11 fans permalink
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I was against this crock of a bailout before and then I read David Sirota's excellent column - check it out:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/top-5-reasons-to-vote-aga_b_130068.html

This issue goes far beyond liberal or conservative, Republican or Democrats or somewhere in between. This is a fundamental failure of our government to properly regulate reckless financial services risk takers - not only Bush but Clinton as well. And so, Americans of all persuasions are rising up to state that we are, "Mad as hell and not going to take it anymore!" No more billions down the toilet - how easy that word "billions" rolls off our tongues - that is the problem, billions for Iraq and Afghanistan, billions to corrupt governments and contractors, billions to rescue failing companies, billions in tax breaks to corporations that move abroad. Where are the billions for health care? For our crumbling infrastructure? For education? We need to wake up people...I hope this is a start.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 09/30/2008
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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We need an old riverboat gambler and a show girl to navigate out of this mess.

McCain/Palin '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 AM on 09/30/2008
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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I cheer all the McCain supporters everywhere celebrating the brilliance and leadership in the GOP short sell plan!!!

Shorts are banned???? How stoooopid are you???? Never heard of Options????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 09/30/2008
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1043 fans permalink
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777 - That was a jackpot in the McCain-DOW short sell plan

Conservatives are estatic at the enormous gain!!!!!!!

JOHN MCCAIN HERO!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 AM on 09/30/2008
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No Way, No How, No Bailout for the Wall Street Fat Cats. Any legislation directed toward this "conservative caused" mess HAS to be "channeled" through MAIN STREET! And there MUST be Real Oversight By the People........Not a Bush appointed crime mob!
Or, even better, just let their whole "House of Cards" fall to the ground
Bush, Cheney, Rove, Paulson, et al. should be sent packing back to underneith the rock from which they came.
Enough of the super rich picking our pockets!
ENOUGH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 09/29/2008
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My brain is fried.....my eyes are blurry.......my stomach is queezy from trying to read EVERY thread in this blog. May we all agree on one thing here, people? Can we put this puppy to bed now? I can't take any more. Until tomorrow, my fellow Americans......good night and may God bless all of you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 09/29/2008

I just lost over 30% of my entire lifes savings, and I invested in what I thought was fairly risk adverse.
I have built a business, buy my employees health insurance, saved reserves, and bought my nursing home insurance. I was moderate, and did what I thought was responsible in my financial dealings.

I am so angery at the Republicans, the entire economy is going to collasp and they won't vote because on one woman's words? Since when were they so thin skined. What ever happened to "words will never hurts me"?

Under the Republican watch our economy has tanked, our world prestige has tanked, and our boys are dying in Iraq. What in God's name do the Republicans need to have happen to realize it is time to do what is right.

Pass this thing and get past it. Every day they play with us means more uncertainity. If the deal was never that bad then why even bring it to us in the first place. They bail out airlines, auto dealers and even banks. Just do it. And hope our stocks go back up, our banks don't close and that we all don't have to apply for jobs flipping burgers at 85!

Have some decency. Have some love for the people who did it right. PASS this thing NOW.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 09/29/2008
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Idi0t!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 AM on 09/30/2008
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I agree. when your boss tells you that if the economy continues to tank he'll have to lay you off, you get a better perspective. Most people are living pay check to paycheck, and when the checks stop? What then? Soup kitchens, if we're lucky? These as*holes on here screaming that wall street should pay have no idea what is about to happen to the rest of the country. this isn't just about wall street and anyone who tells you that is either misinformed or rich enough that they won't be hurt when the whole thing falls apart.

I'm just afraid the republicans will continue to try to spin this until it's too late -- and the loud mouths on the radical left who think that we need to destroy the system in order to fix it, will get their wish.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 09/30/2008
- Jezreel I'm a Fan of Jezreel 62 fans permalink
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Couldn't agree with you more Mysticalsister & DicksBaitGirl. I'm sorry for your loss DicksBaitGirl. Like you, I really hope that a solution to this mess is found really soon. This is horrible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 09/30/2008
- Brainspore I'm a Fan of Brainspore 5 fans permalink

Sorry for your losses, but what makes you think that giving these crooks another $700 billion would have made anything better? The people who say they need the cash are the very ones who got us here. If the system itself is hopelessly flawed, dumping more money on it won't work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 09/30/2008
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I guess this palrty 25 billion $ went un noticed - will we ever stop - Does this mean we own the auto makers too - I want a Hummer - ohhhhhhhhh, I am getting one, from bush http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gVyqgvNaVoUVKdRD1NpFvweJzLHw

US Congress passes 25 bln loan guarantees to automakers
1 day ago

DETROIT, Michigan (AFP) — The US Senate Saturday approved 25 billion dollars in loan guarantees for the financially strapped US auto industry, intended to spark a wave of automotive innovation.

The loan guarantees were included in a continuing resolution that included funding for the US government and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

President George W. Bush has indicated that he intends to sign the bill.

"We're very pleased Congress has chosen to act at this critical time," said Greg Martin, director of communications for General Motors Corp's Washington office.

GM had been subject of much speculation that it could be forced into bankruptcy.

The bill, which was approved by the House of Representatives on Wednesday, are the first loan guarantees for US carmakers since Congress approved a similar 675 million dollar measure for Chrysler Corp. in 1980.

There is more, but HuffPuff limits the post

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 09/29/2008
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WRONG

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 09/29/2008
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