House rejects $700B bailout in stunning defeat

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First Posted: 09-28-08 12:52 AM   |   Updated: 10-28-08 05:12 AM

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WASHINGTON — In a vote that shook the government, Wall Street and markets around the world, the House on Monday defeated a $700 billion emergency rescue for the nation's financial system, leaving both parties' lawmakers and the Bush administration scrambling to pick up the pieces. Dismayed investors sent the Dow Jones industrials plunging 777 points, the most ever for a single day.

"We need to put something back together that works," a grim-faced Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said after he and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke joined in an emergency strategy session at the White House. On Capitol Hill, Democratic leaders said the House would reconvene Thursday, leaving open the possibility that it could salvage a reworked version.

Senate leaders showed no inclination to try to bring the measure to a vote before they could determine its fate in the House. President Bush, meanwhile, was scheduled to make a statement on the rescue plan Tuesday morning, the White House said.

All sides agreed the effort to bolster beleaguered financial markets, potentially the biggest government intervention since the Great Depression, could not be abandoned.

But in a remarkable display on Monday, a majority of House members slapped aside the best version their leaders and the administration had been able to come up with, bucking presidential speeches, pleading visits from Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and urgent warnings that the economy could nosedive without the legislation.

In the face of thousands of phone calls and e-mails fiercely opposing the measure, many lawmakers were not willing to take the political risk of voting for it just five weeks before the elections.

The bill went down, 228-205.

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The House Web site was overwhelmed as millions of people sought information about the measure through the day.

The legislation the administration promoted would have allowed the government to buy bad mortgages and other sour assets held by troubled banks and other financial institutions. Getting those debts off their books should bolster those companies' balance sheets, making them more inclined to lend and ease one of the biggest choke points in a national credit crisis. If the plan worked, the thinking went, it would help lift a major weight off the national economy, which is already sputtering.

Hoping to pick up enough GOP votes for the next try, Republicans floated several ideas. One would double the $100,000 ceiling on federal deposit insurance. Another would end rules that require companies to devalue assets on their books to reflect the price they could get in the market.

In the meantime, Paulson said he would work with other regulators "to use all the tools available to protect our financial system and our economy."

"Our tool kit is substantial but insufficient," he said, indicating the government intended to continue piecemeal fixes while pressing Congress for broader action.

Stocks started plummeting on Wall Street even before Monday's vote was over, as traders watched the rescue measure going down on television. Meanwhile, lawmakers were watching them back.

As a digital screen in the House chamber recorded a cascade of "no" votes against the bailout, Democratic Rep. Joe Crowley of New York shouted news of the falling Dow Jones industrials. "Six hundred points!" he yelled, jabbing his thumb downward.

The final stock carnage far surpassed the 684-point drop on the first trading day after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

In the House, "no" votes came from both the Democratic and Republican sides of the aisle. More than two-thirds of Republicans and 40 percent of Democrats opposed the bill. Several Democrats in close election fights waited until the last moment, then went against the bill as it became clear the vast majority of Republicans were opposing it.

Thirteen of the 19 most vulnerable Republicans and Democrats in an Associated Press analysis voted against the bill despite the pleas from Bush and their party leaders to pass it.

In all, 65 Republicans joined 140 Democrats in voting "yes," while 133 Republicans and 95 Democrats voted "no."

The overriding question was what to do next.

"The legislation may have failed; the crisis is still with us," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., in a news conference after the defeat. "What happened today cannot stand."

Republican leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, the minority leader, said he and other Republicans were pained to back the measure, but in light of the potential consequences for the economy and all Americans, "We need to renew our efforts to find a solution that Congress can support."

Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., said there was scant time to reopen legislation that was the product of hard-fought bipartisan negotiations.

"What happened today was not a failure of a bill, it was a failure of will," said Dodd, the Banking Committee chairman. "Our hope is that cooler heads will prevail, people will think about what they did today and recognize that this is not just scare tactics _ it's reality."

A brutal round of partisan finger-pointing followed the vote.

Republicans blamed Pelosi's scathing speech near the close of the debate _ which assailed Bush's economic policies and a "right-wing ideology of anything goes, no supervision, no discipline, no regulation" of financial markets _ for the defeat. It was not much different from her usual tough words against the president and his party.

"We could have gotten there today had it not been for the partisan speech that the speaker gave on the floor of the House," Boehner said.

Rep. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., the whip, estimated that Pelosi's speech changed the minds of a dozen Republicans who might otherwise have supported the plan.

That amounted to an appalling accusation by Republicans against Republicans, said Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman of the Financial Services Committee: "Because somebody hurt their feelings, they decide to punish the country."

More than a repudiation of Democrats, Frank said, Republicans' refusal to vote for the bailout was a rejection of their own president.

Indeed, many GOP lawmakers spurned Bush's urgent calls for action. "We have a gun to our head," said Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, R-Fla., who opposed the bill. "This isn't legislation _ it's extortion."

The two men campaigning to replace Bush watched the situation closely _ from afar _ and demanded action.

In Iowa, Republican John McCain said his rival Barack Obama and congressional Democrats "infused unnecessary partisanship into the process. Now is not the time to fix the blame; it's time to fix the problem."

Obama said, "Democrats, Republicans, step up to the plate, get it done."

Lawmakers were under extraordinary pressure from powerful outside groups, which gave notice they considered the legislation a "key vote" _ one they would consider when rating members of Congress.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce said opponents of the bailout would pay for their stance.

"Make no mistake: When the aftermath of congressional inaction becomes clear, Americans will not tolerate those who stood by and let the calamity happen," said R. Bruce Josten, the Chamber's top lobbyist, in a letter to members.

The conservative Club for Growth made a similar threat to supporters of the bailout.

"We're all worried about losing our jobs," Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., declared in an impassioned speech in support of the bill before the vote. "Most of us say, 'I want this thing to pass, but I want you to vote for it _ not me.'"

"We're in this moment, and if we fail to do the right thing, Heaven help us," he said.

If Congress doesn't come around on a bailout, more pressure would fall on the Federal Reserve.

The Fed, which has been providing billions in short-term loans to squeezed banks to help them overcome credit stresses, could keep expanding those loans to encourage lending. And, it could keep working with other central banks to inject billions into financial markets overseas.

It also has the power to expand emergency lending to other types of companies and even to individuals if they are unable to secure adequate credit.

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Associated Press writers Jeannine Aversa, Jim Abrams and Andrew Taylor contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — In a vote that shook the government, Wall Street and markets around the world, the House on Monday defeated a $700 billion emergency rescue for the nation's financial system, leavin...
WASHINGTON — In a vote that shook the government, Wall Street and markets around the world, the House on Monday defeated a $700 billion emergency rescue for the nation's financial system, leavin...
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- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 620 fans permalink
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 09/29/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 09/29/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 620 fans permalink
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I take a bite about every 10 years just to see if it tastes as bad as I remember, and it does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:15 PM on 09/29/2008
- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 09/29/2008
- lornejl I'm a Fan of lornejl 620 fans permalink
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mmmmm, makin me hungry Spamkies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 09/29/2008

Hey...I think I'll make it for my kids's lunch

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 09/29/2008

Suck it up Americans.­..you get the government you deserve. Time to Hang Pelosi and all these traitors-bums. Throw them out. You sheeple that think this is a party line "at fault" issue are just plain ignorant. This is the oligarchy, trying to take down the U.S. 1st a False flag 9-11 attack, and now this false flag Financial 9-11 to give the financial keys to overt fascists-leftists. Notice it's pretty quiet on the McBama Front? No jets coming to D/C Why is no one questioning the Role of the "Federal Reserve". The federal Reserve is a Private Central Bank. Take a look at Europe..ma­rkets tanking, 2 big bank takeover in England this weekend. The central banks of Europe, U.S. and around the world have already robbed all the cash...the­y are out of any paper markets and will use their hard assets to buy up the parts! These coward politicians have NO BALLS. Looks Like Ron Paul, the "nut case" called this one...oh, ah, 5 years ago! The one thing we have learned from history is that we have not learned ONE THING! Our elected officials are driving the get-a-way car for the world bankers..g­et a clue- regardless of party over the last 100 years, they have SOLD US DOWN THE RIVER and you Sheeple sit around and play partisan politics..­blamming each other while the real rulers laugh all the way to the GOLD PILE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 09/29/2008
- mizzou66 I'm a Fan of mizzou66 2 fans permalink

Your initials wouldn't be C.W.K , would they?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 09/29/2008
- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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fascists - leftists is an oxymoron.

You can't be on the left and a fascist at the same time. It would be like Republican­s-Democrat­s.

fascism |ˈfa sh ˌizəm| (also Fascism)
noun
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
• (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 09/29/2008
- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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Leftist-fascists is an oxymoron. You can't be both.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 09/29/2008
- Actionmac I'm a Fan of Actionmac 10 fans permalink
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you and ron paul please go smoke some w ee d and let the adults deal with this problem... from your rant, that should be smoke some more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 09/29/2008

Exactly which "overt fascist lefties" are you referring to? Bush? Cheney? The Neo-Cons? They're the ones who got us into this mess, and now they've "crafted" this massive govt. bailout to save their portfolios. THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY­... just business as usual. Ron Paul doesn't have the answers. If you knew history at all, you'd understands that the "oligarchy" was much more influential in politics before the Fed was created. The nineteenth century was fu**ed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 09/29/2008
- mjtaylor22 I'm a Fan of mjtaylor22 38 fans permalink
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DO NOT PANIC, HAS EVERYONE FORGOTTON ABOUT THE JULY HOUSING BILL THAT GOES INTO EFFCET OCTOBER1 THAT IS
$300 BILLION ALREADY HEADED TOWARD THIS ISSUE
THE LENDERS WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A BUY DOWN ON THE MORTGAGES THOUGH.
HERE IS A LINK TO THE CNN ARTICLE

NOTICE ALSO THAT ON THIS PAGE
PAULSON IS SAYING THE BANKING SYSTEM IS SAFE.....
GOSH WE HAVE SUCH SHORT MEMORIES

Senate passes landmark housing bill
Controversial measure aims to help borrowers, bolster the housing market and provide a fail-safe for Fannie and Freddie. Bush is likely to sign it soon.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/26/news/economy/housing_bill_Sen...

By Jeanne Sahadi, CNNMoney.com senior writer
Last Updated: July 26, 2008: 2:25 PM EDT

NEW YORK CNNMoney.comm) -- The Senate on Saturday overwhelmingly passed a landmark housing bill that will offer up to $300 billion in loans for troubled homeowners and establish a government rescue plan for mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

The House passed the bill on Wednesday just hours after President Bush reversed his long-standing vow to veto the bill. Bush is expected to sign it soon.

The legislation, one of the most far-reaching on housing in decades, marks the centerpiece of Washington's efforts to address the nation's housing meltdown.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 09/29/2008
- rivrgrrl I'm a Fan of rivrgrrl 123 fans permalink
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Very interesting.

So is this 300 billion from this bill on top of the 700 more that they want?

Good on you for being on top of this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 09/29/2008
- mjtaylor22 I'm a Fan of mjtaylor22 38 fans permalink
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it was approved in July 2008, everyone forgot.---­that makes it 700 b + 200B, had the bail out passed....­.....watch your pocket book, and your wallet
Paulson's reasons were vague as heck.
I saw it as asking for a credit extension on an overdrafted credit card.
alot of our markets have been inflated , I think we need a lil economic contraction.
instead of putting tape on this gaping hole, so it can deflated harder next time.
fyi on those credit default swaps and the like,
EVEn the SEC has no jurisdictionon those right now, he can only use anti trust laws to try to reign them in, the regulations around thsoe is a voluntary system....­....
yes voluntary reporting for those criminals.­......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 09/29/2008
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ONE LAST TIME!~~~~~

Mortgages are NOT the problem. Credit default swaps and deriviatives are the problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 09/29/2008
- Actionmac I'm a Fan of Actionmac 10 fans permalink
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you need a headache? keep answering people like this. These are the people who hear the lie that the laws to stop red lining in AA communities is the reason for this problem.

65% of sub-prime loans qualified for standard loans, it was more profitable to put these people in the sub-prime market.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 09/29/2008
- deminmo I'm a Fan of deminmo 16 fans permalink

The page is listed as "not found" on your link, sorry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 09/29/2008
- Jessegirl I'm a Fan of Jessegirl 49 fans permalink

Bush looks like a bag of sh**.
McCain looks worse.
And the economy is in the dumpster..­...whether a bailout or not.

Invest in beer folks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 09/29/2008
- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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You want to inflate McCain's worth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 09/29/2008
- rivrgrrl I'm a Fan of rivrgrrl 123 fans permalink
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Independent micro breweries.

;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 09/29/2008
- Jessegirl I'm a Fan of Jessegirl 49 fans permalink

Oh ya......?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 09/29/2008
- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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Now that the DOW has dropped over 700 points, maybe The House will consider other options.

Bush/Cheney wanted this bill so bad that Cheney came out from wherever it is he hides and went to Capitol Hill to try and get this bailout bill passed. No big piece of legislation that these two criminals have wanted to pass has done the American people any good ever! Remember the iraq war? That resolution was shoved through Congress the same way they tried to do with this bill.

Everyone here thinks that the plummet of the Dow was because of the failure of this bill and it was, only not necessarily the way people think it was. Wall Street wants this bill passed. Those same people have hundreds of millions of dollars. They could easily sell of a few million dollars of stock each to get the dow to plunge like it did. This administration and Wall Street have a gun to our heads people.

It is time to get some economists in front of the House that are NOT associated with this administration and get some other plans to be considered.

Now before any of you dis me and say that I don't have a dog in this fight, allow me let you in on something. As several people here know, I live off an annuity that is invested in the stock market. I just see rushing this bill or any bill through Congress as bad policy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 09/29/2008
- mizzou66 I'm a Fan of mizzou66 2 fans permalink

Well, I won't be dissing you...I agree. The administration is trying to terrify everyone into jumping onto this too quickly for anyone to see what it really entails.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 09/29/2008
- rivrgrrl I'm a Fan of rivrgrrl 123 fans permalink
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Exactly.

If bushCo wants it, I'm against it.

I don't need to be burned twice to learn my lesson on that gang of crooks. If they are for it, guaranteed, it will be bad for the rest of us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 09/29/2008
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They did not make the market crash.

Get a clue.

The problem is real.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 09/29/2008
- Jessegirl I'm a Fan of Jessegirl 49 fans permalink

You're right....C­hnney don't move for nothin, except wa*r, oil and hot buffet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 09/29/2008
- Jessegirl I'm a Fan of Jessegirl 49 fans permalink

After 8 years of Repubs...w­ho can afford those "freedom fries?".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 09/29/2008

It seems to me that the Deal was struck until Speaker Nancy Pelosi opened her Big Mouth and Skewered the Entire Deal. Not only did she Lose Most of the Republicans but 95 Democrats as well.

I don't foresee any other Deals coming from the House of Representatives, until Nancy Pelosi is Removed from her Position, and replaced with someone who can be More Diplomatic and not as partisan as she has continually shown herself to be.

Are we really that surprised that 91% of the American Public Dislikes and Mistrusts the Congress with people like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid running it into the ditch at every chance they get?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:22 PM on 09/29/2008
- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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Actually it is now 15% approval rating.

And blaming Pelosi is ridiculous. What you are saying is that people voted against this bill because they got their feelings hurt. That is real mature. The people that say that are just whining little b*tches that got their panties in a bunch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 09/29/2008

9 or 15%? And this 6 point spread has you elated?

Congress should be at least above 50% across the Board!!!

15%!!! Like that is something to be Proud of!!!

All of them should be Booted out on their ASSES!!!

We could recruit 500 drunk homeless drunk bridge dwellers to run Congress and get better than 15% Approval !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 09/29/2008
- mjtaylor22 I'm a Fan of mjtaylor22 38 fans permalink
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ahh the RNC gopt their feeling hurt and stopped the bailout.
What ever.
I was uncomfortable with the bailout anyway. I watched on CSAPN as Paulson explaind who he wanted to help. Never mentioned the TaxPayers, nor the potential for re couping of OUR money.
The final plan was better overall, but these guys want to increase credit availability to institutions who are already tightening their lending criteria.- would they lend more just because of the bailout, who knows.....­...
I liked the regulations my goodness that is needed, it is just a whole lot of money for bad business and bad debt. and they were given no time to really debate it.
Felt too much like the call to invade Iraq...do it now ask questions whcih the administration will nto answer later.....­.....
There is 300 billion already kciking in on Oct 1 anyway.
Why did this need to be done by last Friday, well before the already approved housing bill kicked in 300 billion
Why not expand that program to help out more

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 09/29/2008
- rivrgrrl I'm a Fan of rivrgrrl 123 fans permalink
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And it seems to me that you are ill-informed, negatively biased or just an idjut.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 09/29/2008

Thank you for your valuable input in this very serious matter, and if you add a Buck & a half, you can ride the Bus to some place that cares what you think.

So be quiet Sweetie, the Adults are talking Now!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 09/29/2008

Yup, it's a lot like that WMD thing that Bush 2.0 put on us a few years ago. The Dems believed him when he swore they existed, knew where they were, and all the rest. War? Last resort! Yeah, right.

Guess what? Dems fell for it again!

"Fool me once? Shame on you! Fool me twice? Shame on....uh.. can't fool me again!"

So the Dems lined up for a Presidential plea, for a failed economic policy that has run the country into bankruptcy (duh, spent all the money and cut all the taxes for their rich buddies), and even when the Dems hold their noses and vote for the Republican bailout bill, the Repugs won't even vote for their own bill!

I'd like to know how many of those guys who torpedoed the economy today also supported the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 09/29/2008

Yup, it's a lot like that WMD thing that Bush 2.0 put on us a few years ago. The Dems believed him when he swore they existed, knew where they were, and all the rest. War? Last resort! Yeah, right.

Guess what? Dems fell for it again!

"Fool me once? Shame on you! Fool me twice? Shame on....uh.. can't fool me again!"

So the Dems lined up for a Presidential plea, for a failed economic policy that has run the country into bankruptcy (duh, spent all the money and cut all the taxes for their rich buddies), and even when the Dems hold their noses and vote for the BUSH bill, the Repugs won't even vote for their own bill!

I'd like to know how many of those guys who torpedoed the economy today also supported the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 09/29/2008
- DeJaVu57 I'm a Fan of DeJaVu57 2 fans permalink
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If Congress wont stop this bailout, then “We The People” should. It’s time for a tax revolt people! A few years back it was Enron,..Ar­thur Andersen..­.. Now Bear and Stearns,..­Fannie Mae,..Fred­die Mac,..AIG.­... It's like a Corporate crime wave swept across our nation Under Bush.

It's troublesome how many Wall Street analysts and economists think this bailout plan may notworkWe're being told that the consequences of doing nothing could be so bad something must be passed quick, right? Seems we've been here before. We were told Iraq posed such a grave threat that we had to act (invade) now. Or the consequences could come back to us in the form of a mushroom cloud. Now we're being told we must act now or the consequences could be a mushroom cloud over Wall Street.

It's playing the fear card again. Between the tax cuts for the wealthiest, the fraud and War profiteering in Iraq, and now a 700 billion dollar Wall Street bailout, there's been an incredible amount of wealth transferred from the poor and middle class to the already ultra rich. I fear this is one last looting of the U.S. Treasury by the Bu$hCo crime cabal before they go riding off into the sunset and out of office. They will have tied the hands of our next President, preventing him from doing many of the things he wanted to do. We'll be too bankrupt a nation for any realprosperity.

Jeff Morris-Saugerties, N.Y.- DeJaVu57

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 09/29/2008
- mizzou66 I'm a Fan of mizzou66 2 fans permalink

That's exactly what I've been trying to say...only you've said it so much better than I ever hope to. Thanks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 09/29/2008
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Agree wholeheartedly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 09/29/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 234 fans permalink

If there will be a bailout bill ... it should be that one that dems have hammered out ... that bill which protects taxpayers and homeowners with restructured loans so that they keep their home, so that other homeowner's property values are not tanked, so that CEO's don't get golden fleeces and, so that their are regulatory rules in place!!!

ReThugs did not put country first ... they just don't want regulations ... they want a naked bill so that their lobbyists are covered and can operated freely forever!!!

Dems included in that bill safeguards ... please!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 09/29/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 234 fans permalink

Poster down there ... I don't take orders from rethugs ...your link is most probably quite vague and ambiguous! Thanks anyway!!!

If you'd like:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/12/20031216-9.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 09/29/2008

You just don't get it!! You are to concerned with trashing Bush to see the real problem. One bank I have cd's in went belly up. If the mutual fund market goes, I will loose all of my retirement savings. I am not rich. I am just a working guy who makes $12.00 per hour. When we bail out Wall Streert, you are protecting millions of hard working average people, like myself

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 09/29/2008
- mizzou66 I'm a Fan of mizzou66 2 fans permalink

We know there will be a bailout of some sort. What we're hoping to gain by this is a bill that will actually work to protect you, and all of us in the same situation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 09/29/2008
- rivrgrrl I'm a Fan of rivrgrrl 123 fans permalink
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Maybe.

No one knows if this plan will work.

If it doesn't, we all lose our accounts plus be in the hole for 700 billion more in BORROWED dollars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 09/29/2008
- mjtaylor22 I'm a Fan of mjtaylor22 38 fans permalink
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Feels like Bush was trying to pull a Jimmy Carter, on Obama, run up the debt so much, that it would take longer than 4 years to get back on track, so in 2012, the RNC would run the table like Reagan did, and start this vicious cycle all over again..
Think about it.
War W Iraq Speech
Matched the
Bailout of Wall Street Speech

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 09/29/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 237 fans permalink
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*** "The American people rejected this bailout and now Congress did likewise." ***

***...memb­ers of McCain's own party voted 133 to 65 against the measure. In contrast, Democrats voted 140 to 95 for the bill.***

I am just about speechless. Mc Cain is left looking like the village i d i o t, but his party, that voted 133 to 65 AGAINST the bill, is left looking like the party of the people. How ironic is that? It's a double irony: ironic for repubs to part ways with the repub candidate for president, ironic for repubs to take the side of the people.

There is more. The dems, the real party of the people, voted 140 to 195 FOR the bill...tha­t the people didn't want. How ironic is THAT? The real party of the people going against the people. And how much trouble is that for us dems?

Ob ama and Mc Cain will be wondering where, exactly, this vote leaves them, the latter will be something near sui ci dal, the former I am not sure.

Add to all this the Dow Jones closing down 777 points, the greatest loss ever, and it's a pretty strange, ironic and historic day. (I guess 777 is better than 6 6 6, though, at least for those who believe in omens!)

Unbelievable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 09/29/2008
- DeJaVu57 I'm a Fan of DeJaVu57 2 fans permalink
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BUSH BAILOUT PLAN...... NO BANKER LEFT BEHIND!

Once again the Bush administration acts as if their policies had nothing to do with their latest disaster. But then again, when has the Bush administration ever taken responsibility for any of its failures? The gang that couldn't shoot straight who've brought us the failures of 9-11, Iraq war, Katrina, now the Wall Street meltdown..­.. If Congress doesn't act quickly then the consequences will be their fault? What a crock! They took us from surplus to record deficit, destroyed our reputation throughout the world, mismanaged their unnecessary war in Iraq. They ignore the rule of law, ignore court subpoenas to testify, trashed our Constitution and what is now our joke of a Justice Dept....

I have to laugh at Sen McCain. Two weeks ago he said the fundamentals of our economy are still strong. But ten days later he temporarily suspends his campaign, now refuses to debate Obama, and now claims our economy is in such a crisis he must return to Washington to save the day.... Let's at the very least call this Wall Street bailout plan an appropriate name. May I suggest calling it the "No Banker Left Behind" bailout plan. CONTINUED BELOW

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 09/29/2008
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Agree wholeheartedly. Very good. That's the way I see it, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 09/29/2008
- DeJaVu57 I'm a Fan of DeJaVu57 2 fans permalink
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If Congress wont stop this bailout, then "We The People" should. It"s time for a tax revolt people! A few years back it was Enron,..Ar­thur Andersen..­.. Now Bear and Stearns,..­Fannie Mae,..Fred­die Mac,..AIG.­... It's like a Corporate crime wave swept across our nation Under Bush.

It's troublesome how many Wall Street analysts and economists think this bailout plan may notworkWe're being told that the consequences of doing nothing could be so bad something must be passed quick, right? Seems we've been here before. We were told Iraq posed such a grave threat that we had to act (invade) now. Or the consequences could come back to us in the form of a mushroom cloud. Now we're being told we must act now or the consequences could be a mushroom cloud over Wall Street.

It's playing the fear card again. Between the tax cuts for the wealthiest, the fraud and War profiteering in Iraq, and now a 700 billion dollar Wall Street bailout, there's been an incredible amount of wealth transferred from the poor and middle class to the already ultra rich. I fear this is one last looting of the U.S. Treasury by the Bu$hCo crime cabal before they go riding off into the sunset and out of office. They will have tied the hands of our next President, preventing him from doing many of the things he wanted to do. We'll be too bankrupt a nation for any realprosperity.

Jeff Morris-Saugerties, N.Y.- DeJaVu57

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 09/29/2008
- Coinyer101 I'm a Fan of Coinyer101 647 fans permalink
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republicans didnt want to pass it ,because it contained 4 safeguards for the people, that barack insisted on adding to bill. now, the mccain campaign is putting the entire blame on barack. they think we're stoopid. repubs wanted to cut the capital gains taxes and do more de-regulation. don't be fooled . this is repubs last grasp at governing. they should pay dearly at the polls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 09/29/2008
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 234 fans permalink

Exactly !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 09/29/2008
- marthlois I'm a Fan of marthlois 27 fans permalink

I also agree.
With the way things are going, is there ANY chance that Bush could declare martial law in our country? No doubt he has some tricks up his sleeve. Washington broken is an understatement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 09/29/2008

MCCAIN FAILED. Let's see the names of those who were in the boat and said NO. Take responsibility or hide behind sexism or partisanship like the Palin-osaurus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 09/29/2008
- Coinyer101 I'm a Fan of Coinyer101 647 fans permalink
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he's taking credit for the 65 republican votes. what amaroon. he didnt want this to pass. he wants to use it to win votes in nov. this will backfire as everyone knows it was republicans who failed to step up and take responsibilitry for their failed policies .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 09/29/2008

Excuse me? i thought I remember how Senator Harry Reid said that the Messiah Barry Obama took over the Meeting at the White House and had left town because he had the Deal in Hand!!!

Maybe he should have just Phoned his opinion in, and that way could claim that no one got his message off the voice-mail!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 09/29/2008
- mrJJ I'm a Fan of mrJJ 23 fans permalink

Dow Down -777

Asia's up next

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 09/29/2008
- Whimsy08 I'm a Fan of Whimsy08 2 fans permalink
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Yeah....wh­ere's that person on here who told me to "get a grip" when I predicted these Dow numbers?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 09/29/2008
- Actionmac I'm a Fan of Actionmac 10 fans permalink
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they are some where trying to get a grip...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 09/29/2008
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