House rejects $700B bailout in stunning defeat

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First Posted: 09-28-08 12:52 AM   |   Updated: 10-28-08 05:12 AM

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WASHINGTON — In a vote that shook the government, Wall Street and markets around the world, the House on Monday defeated a $700 billion emergency rescue for the nation's financial system, leaving both parties' lawmakers and the Bush administration scrambling to pick up the pieces. Dismayed investors sent the Dow Jones industrials plunging 777 points, the most ever for a single day.

"We need to put something back together that works," a grim-faced Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said after he and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke joined in an emergency strategy session at the White House. On Capitol Hill, Democratic leaders said the House would reconvene Thursday, leaving open the possibility that it could salvage a reworked version.

Senate leaders showed no inclination to try to bring the measure to a vote before they could determine its fate in the House. President Bush, meanwhile, was scheduled to make a statement on the rescue plan Tuesday morning, the White House said.

All sides agreed the effort to bolster beleaguered financial markets, potentially the biggest government intervention since the Great Depression, could not be abandoned.

But in a remarkable display on Monday, a majority of House members slapped aside the best version their leaders and the administration had been able to come up with, bucking presidential speeches, pleading visits from Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and urgent warnings that the economy could nosedive without the legislation.

In the face of thousands of phone calls and e-mails fiercely opposing the measure, many lawmakers were not willing to take the political risk of voting for it just five weeks before the elections.

The bill went down, 228-205.

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The House Web site was overwhelmed as millions of people sought information about the measure through the day.

The legislation the administration promoted would have allowed the government to buy bad mortgages and other sour assets held by troubled banks and other financial institutions. Getting those debts off their books should bolster those companies' balance sheets, making them more inclined to lend and ease one of the biggest choke points in a national credit crisis. If the plan worked, the thinking went, it would help lift a major weight off the national economy, which is already sputtering.

Hoping to pick up enough GOP votes for the next try, Republicans floated several ideas. One would double the $100,000 ceiling on federal deposit insurance. Another would end rules that require companies to devalue assets on their books to reflect the price they could get in the market.

In the meantime, Paulson said he would work with other regulators "to use all the tools available to protect our financial system and our economy."

"Our tool kit is substantial but insufficient," he said, indicating the government intended to continue piecemeal fixes while pressing Congress for broader action.

Stocks started plummeting on Wall Street even before Monday's vote was over, as traders watched the rescue measure going down on television. Meanwhile, lawmakers were watching them back.

As a digital screen in the House chamber recorded a cascade of "no" votes against the bailout, Democratic Rep. Joe Crowley of New York shouted news of the falling Dow Jones industrials. "Six hundred points!" he yelled, jabbing his thumb downward.

The final stock carnage far surpassed the 684-point drop on the first trading day after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

In the House, "no" votes came from both the Democratic and Republican sides of the aisle. More than two-thirds of Republicans and 40 percent of Democrats opposed the bill. Several Democrats in close election fights waited until the last moment, then went against the bill as it became clear the vast majority of Republicans were opposing it.

Thirteen of the 19 most vulnerable Republicans and Democrats in an Associated Press analysis voted against the bill despite the pleas from Bush and their party leaders to pass it.

In all, 65 Republicans joined 140 Democrats in voting "yes," while 133 Republicans and 95 Democrats voted "no."

The overriding question was what to do next.

"The legislation may have failed; the crisis is still with us," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., in a news conference after the defeat. "What happened today cannot stand."

Republican leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, the minority leader, said he and other Republicans were pained to back the measure, but in light of the potential consequences for the economy and all Americans, "We need to renew our efforts to find a solution that Congress can support."

Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., said there was scant time to reopen legislation that was the product of hard-fought bipartisan negotiations.

"What happened today was not a failure of a bill, it was a failure of will," said Dodd, the Banking Committee chairman. "Our hope is that cooler heads will prevail, people will think about what they did today and recognize that this is not just scare tactics _ it's reality."

A brutal round of partisan finger-pointing followed the vote.

Republicans blamed Pelosi's scathing speech near the close of the debate _ which assailed Bush's economic policies and a "right-wing ideology of anything goes, no supervision, no discipline, no regulation" of financial markets _ for the defeat. It was not much different from her usual tough words against the president and his party.

"We could have gotten there today had it not been for the partisan speech that the speaker gave on the floor of the House," Boehner said.

Rep. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., the whip, estimated that Pelosi's speech changed the minds of a dozen Republicans who might otherwise have supported the plan.

That amounted to an appalling accusation by Republicans against Republicans, said Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman of the Financial Services Committee: "Because somebody hurt their feelings, they decide to punish the country."

More than a repudiation of Democrats, Frank said, Republicans' refusal to vote for the bailout was a rejection of their own president.

Indeed, many GOP lawmakers spurned Bush's urgent calls for action. "We have a gun to our head," said Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, R-Fla., who opposed the bill. "This isn't legislation _ it's extortion."

The two men campaigning to replace Bush watched the situation closely _ from afar _ and demanded action.

In Iowa, Republican John McCain said his rival Barack Obama and congressional Democrats "infused unnecessary partisanship into the process. Now is not the time to fix the blame; it's time to fix the problem."

Obama said, "Democrats, Republicans, step up to the plate, get it done."

Lawmakers were under extraordinary pressure from powerful outside groups, which gave notice they considered the legislation a "key vote" _ one they would consider when rating members of Congress.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce said opponents of the bailout would pay for their stance.

"Make no mistake: When the aftermath of congressional inaction becomes clear, Americans will not tolerate those who stood by and let the calamity happen," said R. Bruce Josten, the Chamber's top lobbyist, in a letter to members.

The conservative Club for Growth made a similar threat to supporters of the bailout.

"We're all worried about losing our jobs," Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., declared in an impassioned speech in support of the bill before the vote. "Most of us say, 'I want this thing to pass, but I want you to vote for it _ not me.'"

"We're in this moment, and if we fail to do the right thing, Heaven help us," he said.

If Congress doesn't come around on a bailout, more pressure would fall on the Federal Reserve.

The Fed, which has been providing billions in short-term loans to squeezed banks to help them overcome credit stresses, could keep expanding those loans to encourage lending. And, it could keep working with other central banks to inject billions into financial markets overseas.

It also has the power to expand emergency lending to other types of companies and even to individuals if they are unable to secure adequate credit.

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Associated Press writers Jeannine Aversa, Jim Abrams and Andrew Taylor contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — In a vote that shook the government, Wall Street and markets around the world, the House on Monday defeated a $700 billion emergency rescue for the nation's financial system, leavin...
WASHINGTON — In a vote that shook the government, Wall Street and markets around the world, the House on Monday defeated a $700 billion emergency rescue for the nation's financial system, leavin...
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- mrsmdressup I'm a Fan of mrsmdressup 297 fans permalink
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Toronto Stock Exchange down 945 points.

Who do I phone to get something done in the US????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 09/29/2008
- donaldw6 I'm a Fan of donaldw6 360 fans permalink
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Nobody's home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 09/29/2008
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lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 09/29/2008
- mrsmdressup I'm a Fan of mrsmdressup 297 fans permalink
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If I could only share with everyone what the analysts on Cdn. Business News Network are saying.

They are basically calling the republicans a bunch of whiny babies.

And very insulted by what happened today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 09/29/2008
- gotalife I'm a Fan of gotalife 22 fans permalink

w.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 09/29/2008
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DJIA 10,434.50 -708.63 (-6.36%)

Will it get below 10,000 this week?

I'm taking bets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 09/29/2008
- mrJJ I'm a Fan of mrJJ 23 fans permalink

Rudy counting his chickens

Giuliani's law firm seeking bailout business 26 Sep 2008 In the midst of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, former Mayor Rudy Giuliani has begun drumming up business, positioning his law firm to advise corporate clients on how to profit from the government's $700 billion bailout. Bracewell & Giuliani LLP announced it has formed a corporate task force to advise "financial institutions, private investment funds, institutional investors and other market participants" on the costly package. "Our team of former government officials and experienced attorneys in the fields of legislation, enforcement and finance are equipped to guide institutions in this quickly evolving and complex environment," Giuliani said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 09/29/2008
- Whimsy08 I'm a Fan of Whimsy08 2 fans permalink
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Ali Velshi: There's a fundamental lack of understanding. (speaking of the people who voted against this bill.)

The DOW has NEVER been this low. Never. Not in the history of the Market.

If that doesn't scare you.....you're a better person than I am.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 09/29/2008
- mrsmdressup I'm a Fan of mrsmdressup 297 fans permalink
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Duh? The DOW was at 5000 8 years ago. Get a grip!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 09/29/2008
- Whimsy08 I'm a Fan of Whimsy08 2 fans permalink
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Perhaps you could loan me a shred of your optimism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 09/29/2008

What? After 9-11 the Dow fell to a low of 8019 in August of 2002.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 09/29/2008

The DOW was below 1000 until about 1985. It meandered around 11,000 during the end of 1999 and well into 2000, then dipped to about 8000 a couple of years ago. The past 10-15 years has seen an unsustainable rise in that measure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 09/29/2008
- donaldw6 I'm a Fan of donaldw6 360 fans permalink
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My stomach feels exactly like at the end of that long roller coaster climb, starting down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 09/29/2008
- EarthToZoey I'm a Fan of EarthToZoey 226 fans permalink
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Me too, donald. Me too.

I've already lost a significant sum in my portfolio. This is terrible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 09/29/2008
- donaldw6 I'm a Fan of donaldw6 360 fans permalink
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I've had to stop work due to illness. What's in my portfolio is all I have to keep me alive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 09/29/2008
- Whimsy08 I'm a Fan of Whimsy08 2 fans permalink
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Yeah...that's exactly what it feels like.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 09/29/2008
- suzyhein I'm a Fan of suzyhein 63 fans permalink
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im numb and a little slaphappy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 09/29/2008
- Jessegirl I'm a Fan of Jessegirl 49 fans permalink

Am I safe to assume that the Repubs not for the bailout- don't like the oversights and extras

And the Dems who are not for it- want the bailout to be EVEN better for the American taxpayer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 09/29/2008

No, the republicans and democrats that voted no want a better deal for the taxpayer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 09/29/2008
- Jessegirl I'm a Fan of Jessegirl 49 fans permalink

So BOTH parties that voted NO want more oversights and extras????­??????????­??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 09/29/2008
- Wuzzup I'm a Fan of Wuzzup 6 fans permalink

What a joke this once Great Country has become.Americans deserve this Depression as much as the Lame duck President they voted twice. We might as well vote for JMc and officially become a 3rd World country we are almost there anyway.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 09/29/2008


Hank Paulson, Chairman of the Fed (which is comprised of private banking entities and is NOT a United States governmental agency), just injected $630 Billion of PRIVATE money into the system.

Paulson and the bankers just BLINKED, people.

WHAAAAAAaT...they didn't need OUR money after all?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 09/29/2008
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So the bail out was a farce?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 09/29/2008
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What --- where's the link to that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 09/29/2008

Hank Paulson is Secretary of Treasury, not Chairman of the Fed. And nobody has injected anything anywhere -- except a fist up the @ss of the American economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 09/29/2008
- suzyhein I'm a Fan of suzyhein 63 fans permalink
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fist up the a$$,

pinkcheese is that you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 09/29/2008
- suzyhein I'm a Fan of suzyhein 63 fans permalink
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are you fuckingkidding me????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 09/29/2008
- donaldw6 I'm a Fan of donaldw6 360 fans permalink
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i.e., they materialized money out of thin air.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 09/29/2008

Yesterday, in an apparent bid to calm Asian markets, the bozos in Congress announced that a deal had been agreed to. BAD IDEA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 09/29/2008
- Whimsy08 I'm a Fan of Whimsy08 2 fans permalink
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massively bad idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 09/29/2008

Not if you're one of the big boys and you were looking to dump your Asian holdings before the slide.

The game is rigged. Get with the program.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 09/29/2008
- Whimsy08 I'm a Fan of Whimsy08 2 fans permalink
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The speech that Pelosi gave, which hurt the poor baby Republican's feelings....was just shown. And she spoke the truth and nothing but the truth....pointing out that the days of reckless spending and no rules was over.

Fools.....absolute fools. I'm gonna find these people and just move into their house. Walk right in. I'll do it. I will.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 09/29/2008
- donaldw6 I'm a Fan of donaldw6 360 fans permalink
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I want the names of the Rethugs who turned simply because of that speech.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 09/29/2008
- EarthToZoey I'm a Fan of EarthToZoey 226 fans permalink
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It's not just the poor baby Republicans. It's the pantywaist Democrats that voted Nay too. They should have pushed it through. F the political repercussions, ya know? Seriously. If they're so afraid of losing their seat in Congress that they would vote against the best interests of the American people, then they deserve to go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 09/29/2008

The extreme right Repubs and extreme left Democrats united in opposition - however they will never unite in a proposition. This signals a lack of confidence in house leaders on both sides. However, both McCain and Obama camps supported the plan so it does not look good for confidence in their leadership either.

The last event that caused a market drop of 700+ was 911....

Hopefully this signals election defeats for Pelosi and her boys on both sides...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 09/29/2008
- BillOReits I'm a Fan of BillOReits 5 fans permalink

Exactly right, she spoke the truth and if theres anything that'll set off a Republican, its the truth. What Pelosi did was take away the Republican goal of associating the Dems with Bush. Repubs figure if they do that then Obama can't attack McCain on the basis of Bush's failed policies. The only thing the Repubs do is play politics but they pick their spots very well. Most Americans hate this bailout, myself included, but the adults among us realize this is very necesary; sometimes you need that nasty tasting medicine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 09/29/2008
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DJIA -700.42 (-6.29%)

Hope no one is thinking of retiring soon with their 401k.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 09/29/2008
- donaldw6 I'm a Fan of donaldw6 360 fans permalink
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Down down 700.42.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 09/29/2008
- mrJJ I'm a Fan of mrJJ 23 fans permalink

Heh

RBS (Royal Bank of Scotland) will get 'billions' in US bail-out of economy

THE ROYAL Bank of Scotland is to be one of the biggest beneficiaries of the planned $700 billion bail-out that comes courtesy of the American tax-payer if the US Congress gives the financial rescue package the go-ahead this weekend. The bank's share of the bail-out will enable RBS to offload billions of dollars of questionable assets.

http://www.sundayherald.com/news/heraldnews/display.var.2453817.0.rbs_will_get_billions_in_us_bailout_of_economy.php

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 09/29/2008
- Whimsy08 I'm a Fan of Whimsy08 2 fans permalink
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Does anyone think the backlash of this will cause Republicans to change their vote?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 09/29/2008
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Only if Pelosi doesn't say anything mean about them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 09/29/2008
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As much as people are attacking the Republicans, it's Democrats too. Per the article, 40% of Democrats also voted "no." This really wasn't partisan ... this was self-serving ... it just so happened that this election cycle the Republicans had/have more to lose. These folks sat up there and looked at their ability to be re-elected and TOO MANY of them realized that they had no real record to run on themselves and that it would come down to this one vote and they PANICKED. It should be a genuine wake-up call to the American people that it's time to start doing some serious research when we elect representatives and start looking to see what those people stand for instead of giving them free return tickets to Congress just because we don't want to do the homework or because we recognize their name. I would urge each citizen to take a look at each incumbent that is running in their area this year as well as their competition. This is not a "Throw the bums out" kind of issue as there are several incumbents who have earned their stripes the right way. However, there are several of them that are there and get the equivalent of a free lunch. Be informed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 09/29/2008
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I don't blame the Dems. They were not going to give Republicans political cover on this one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 09/29/2008
- foxbat I'm a Fan of foxbat 98 fans permalink
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KQSK ... my point wasn't to knock Dems, but to point out that there are a lot of folks that are defending the issue based on their jobs as opposed to the duty to country. I don't mind if the two match up, but there have been several comments, mainly from Republicans, but also from some Democrats, who are stating their ability to be re-elected as opposed to referring to the Democratic or Republican platforms as the reason for their vote. I'm not approaching it from the bailout is right/wrong perspective or who's to blame perspective, but instead I'm looking at what's driving many to make the decisions that they are making and it doesn't sound like objective facts in many cases. When some people are saying that they voted against the bill because someone said something mean about their party, I really feel that we've let down those who've fought so hard, and sometimes given all, for democracy.

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