Who Wins, Who Loses Under Proposed Bailout Plan?

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TOM RAUM | September 28, 2008 04:16 PM EST | AP

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Protesters march outside of the U.S Treasury building in protest of the proposed Wall Street bailouts, Friday Sept. 26, 2008, in Washington. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)

WASHINGTON — The proposal to bail out U.S. financial markets to the tune of up to $700 billion creates a lot of potential short-term winners, as well as some losers.

Wall Street and the banking industry are perhaps the biggest winners. Scores of banks and other financial institutions faced with going under stand to gain a lifeline that should allow them to start making loans again.

Under the plan that congressional aide sought to put into final form Sunday, the Treasury Department can start buying up troubled mortgage-related securities now held by these institutions.

These securities are clogging balance sheets, leaving banks without the required capital to make new loans and putting the banks dangerously close to insolvency.

Banks not only have slowed lending to individuals and businesses, they have stopped making loans to each other. The rescue plan should help restore confidence to financial markets.

There are other winners, too, if the bailout works as intended: anyone soon trying to borrow money _ for cars, student loans, even to open new credit card accounts.

Top executives at troubled financial institutions, on the other hand, are in the losing column because the proposal would limit their compensation and rules out "golden parachutes."

Of course, these executives may take solace in knowing their jobs still exist.

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Investors, including the millions of people who hold stock in their 401(k) and pension plans, should benefit. Failure to reach a deal over the weekend could have sent stock markets around the world tumbling on Monday.

Homeowners faced with foreclosure or those who have lost their homes get little help from the agreement. Nor will it help people whose houses are worth less than what they owe get refinancing or take out equity loans.

It would do little to halt the slide in home values that are one of the root causes of the current economic slowdown.

"It doesn't deal with the fundamental problems that gave rise to the problem _ or alleviate the credit crisis," said Peter Morici, an economist and business professor at the University of Maryland

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke are potential winners.

In just a few months, they have remade Wall Street. If the plan helps to get the economy moving again, they may be remembered for having kept the financial crisis from spreading throughout the economy.

"When I see Hank Paulson and Ben Bernanke on TV, I see fear in their eyes. Like on a battlefield when people are shooting at you. I think they are afraid to say how serious the problem is for fear of making it worse," said Bruce Bartlett, an economist who was a Treasury official under the first President Bush.

Bartlett said the plan is flawed, yet the alternative of doing nothing could be catastrophic.

After the heavy dose of new regulation in the agreement, New York will have a hard time claiming it is the center of the financial universe. That title may have shifted to Washington.

If the plan stays together, Congress _ with approval ratings even lower than those of President Bush _ may be seen as having acted decisively at a time of national emergency.

Congressional leaders added new protections to the administration's original proposal. That was only three pages long and bestowed on the treasury secretary almost unfettered powers.

Instead, the agreement would divide the $700 billion up into as many as three installments, creates an oversight board to monitor the treasury secretary's actions and set up several major protections for taxpayers, including a provision putting taxpayers first in line to recover assets if a participating company fails.

The president, on the other hand, probably would get little credit for the deal. He allowed Paulson and Bernanke to do the heavy lifting. The only time he called all the players to the White House _ late Thursday afternoon _ the wheels almost came off the process entirely.

It's hard to tell which presidential candidate benefits the most from an agreement they tentatively endorsed Sunday, a little more than five weeks before the Nov. 4 election. Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain each sought to claim some credit for the deal, even though they played active roles only over the past few days.

Hard economic times traditionally work against the party that holds the White House, and in recent polls Obama has inched ahead of McCain. Furthermore, there is widespread consumer resentment over being asked to bail out Wall Street and lawmakers have learned the proposal has not been popular with their constituents.

That may help Democrats in general. The strongest opposition to the original bailout plan came from House Republicans.

Lawmakers and presidential candidates alike are "trying to orchestrate everybody jumping off the cliff together," said Robert Shapiro, a consultant who was an economic adviser to President Clinton. "I think we'd have a different plan if we weren't five weeks out from the election."

And ordinary taxpayers?

Nothing that potentially adds $700 billion to the national debt _ already surging toward the $10 trillion mark _ can be considered a winner for those who foot the bills.

But lawmakers did put in taxpayer protections, including one to require that taxpayers be repaid in full for loans that go bad.

The package could even end up making money for taxpayers, supporters claimed.

But only if the loans and interest on them are repaid in full. Few expect that provision to be a winning proposition, however.

WASHINGTON — The proposal to bail out U.S. financial markets to the tune of up to $700 billion creates a lot of potential short-term winners, as well as some losers. Wall Street and the banking...
WASHINGTON — The proposal to bail out U.S. financial markets to the tune of up to $700 billion creates a lot of potential short-term winners, as well as some losers. Wall Street and the banking...
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- PT6 I'm a Fan of PT6 25 fans permalink

In CRISIS can we stand FOUR MONTHS of a POWERLESS PRESIDENT and VICE PRESIDENT?

No! They can not control Their OWN REPUB HOUSE and They are causing MORE DAMAGE!

We MUST START IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS and THE CHARGES ARE:

1. False Statements to Congress and the American People regarding IRAQ.
2. Non-Regulation of Stock, Bond, Banking, and Oil.
3. Non-Enforcement of SEC Rules on "Naked Shorts" that drove Companies to Bankruptcy and Merger.
4. Excessive Leveraging of Oil Market to Force Oil to Record Highs.
5. Non-Regulation of Mortgage Industry that lead to "TRICK" Loans and lost homes.
6. Non-Regulation of Derivatives which combine HIGH RISK LOANS together and Sell as Low Risk.
7. Non-Enforcement of Rules and Regulations in ALL INDUSTRIES.
8. Excessive Executive Pay for POOR PERFORMANCE.

There is literally REAMS of INFORMATION including Video, Audio, Text, Phone, and email evidence to convict these perpetrators.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 AM on 09/30/2008
- neo1 I'm a Fan of neo1 3 fans permalink

To me, we are in the midst of a huge mess that makes it hard for the average person to understand and decide on a solution they can live with. I believe Obama when he said the bill should have stipulations that protect main street. If the bill keeps Obama's suggestions, then I feel better about sending the bill through.

I just don't know what to do otherwise. I have to put my hopes on Obama in this instance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 09/29/2008

Thomas Jefferson's Warning To America :

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.
The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

Written by Jefferson in a letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 09/29/2008
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Great quote

thanks

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 09/29/2008
- DCinFrance I'm a Fan of DCinFrance 34 fans permalink
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One of my heros. I think I have a new hero in Dennis...

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Kucinich_says_bailout_doesnt_have_votes_0928.html

Dennis calls out the "debt based monetary system". If people only knew that money is based on nothing but debt. Most people don't even know that the government is NOT in control of the money supply. Jefferson was right, but it's now too late.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 09/29/2008
- vietveter I'm a Fan of vietveter 23 fans permalink

Any way you slice this bailout it is infact an

us against them situation

The haves and have more

against

typical taxpaying Americans

NO BAILOUT

I AM CURRENT ON MY MORTGAGE
I HAVE NO CREDIT CARD DEBT
I HAVE NO HEALTH INSURANCE

And if this passes; I will have no Social Security

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 09/29/2008

The only way to disconnect the tentacles of the Fed and the banking cabal from their printing press fiat game is to let the entire world economy crash. That is the one element of their manipulative game they cannot deal with. Otherwise, they will continue to rob all of us into the poor house, and this bailout bill is just what they need to accelerate the process. I am disappointed the Democrats danced around the negotiations but ultimately gave in, citing the old talking head saw "we have no choice" - sure we do, let it all fall apart. That is the only arbiter of change left for "the people" - Americans are so out to lunch on what's been going on it's sad. Give them a taste of their own medicine and let the largess of greed suffer accordingly. The rest of us will survive, and perhaps even see the change we hope for that under the present political landscape we will never see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 09/29/2008
- DCinFrance I'm a Fan of DCinFrance 34 fans permalink
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Yeah, Mike, it is the only way. People, get your money out now...they are coming for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 09/29/2008
- gakabani I'm a Fan of gakabani 20 fans permalink
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They win, we lose. That simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 09/29/2008
- PT6 I'm a Fan of PT6 25 fans permalink

--------LETS MAKE SURE IT IS NOT WALL STREET------------

A CULTURE OF GREED BUILDING ON GREED!

Young students right out of "state-of-the-art" Financial Engineering programs in BIG NAME UNIVERSITIES dropped into quarter million salaries.

If they were able to develop a "COMPUTER OR TRADING TRICK" that made a BROKER ten Billion in an afternoon or a week they took home $30 mill bonuses!

Brokerage FIRMS USED UNIVERSITIES as training grounds to "Take" investors of all types.

BROKERS who hired these "WHIZZES" became the GREAT TRAINING GROUND FOR GREED!

These young people still exist and are still tasked with "DEVELOPING TRICKS!" to SCAM US.

That is why we need "PROTECTION" in the form of REGULATIONS for FAIR MARKETS.

WE NEED ETHICS TRAINING FOR EVERY YOUNG PERSON COMING OUT OF A UNIVERSITY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 09/29/2008
- orkranger I'm a Fan of orkranger 5 fans permalink

Will $700 Billion buy a Republican election? A billion to this Senator, a billion to that Congressman, and you have just the right amount of electoral votes. Remember 2000/2004?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 09/29/2008
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 98 fans permalink

Don't forget the $ 25 BILLION that we are loaning Detroit auto makers at BELOW market rates ( taxpayers will pay $7 Billion just to borrow the money to give them). Any caveats like, MPG, cleaner catylytic converters or safety issues?. Why we can't interfere in private business!.

They only had 35 years notice to make more fuel efficient cars so as to compete with Japan and so they made....Hummers . Nothing like the "free" market to regulate itself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 09/28/2008
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Who in their right mind does not realize this will raise taxes for ALL of us? The bailout costs $2,300 per American taxpayer. Who can afford that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 09/28/2008

This is just more fall out from the war. After 9-11 the President told us to go shopping. We shopped. So much loose money was given to us in crooked deals we bought houses, cars, durable goods and just kept shopping-the economy looked so good we felt good. As long as we were shopping crazy we weren't compaining about the cost of the war or paying much attention. And we kept shopping-and they kept providing the money....and here we are. Lets just add this 700 billion to the Iraq war bill. We were really sold. I am sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 09/28/2008
- optech007 I'm a Fan of optech007 6 fans permalink

"So much loose money was given to us in crooked deals we bought houses, cars, durable goods and just kept shopping"

One thing we did not buy is durable goods because they're not durable anymore. It's a throwaway society and that's another part of the mess we're in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 AM on 09/29/2008

The last 8 years of "economic stimulus" has been based on borrowing money to buy cheap Chinese crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 09/29/2008
- Melissa I'm a Fan of Melissa 24 fans permalink

Whether Republican or Democrat I am voting every member of Congress who is up for election out of office and maybe this can spark a little change. We need term limits in congress just as we do with the presidency. I hope Barney Franks and Chris Dodd get thrown out when their next election comes due.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 AM on 09/29/2008
- vietveter I'm a Fan of vietveter 23 fans permalink

Many, many of us feel exactly the same way!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 09/29/2008
- yappnmutt I'm a Fan of yappnmutt 76 fans permalink

economics is based upon the idea of rational self interest. so these guys are acting in whose self interests? and .....so they acted in the self interest they know on the premise that too many people with a lot of money are going to lose a lot of it. everyone else can rest assured that nothing has been done to escape the inevitable. the massive unraveling is just picking up steam.

the most curious aspect of the bailout is the rhetoric and substance seems to have missed the obvious fact about the entire mess. bad mortgages are at the root of the problem. if the mortgages are "fixed" then all the associated paper will consequently be fixed at some knowable value. losses can be put into a gov't sponsored debt "well" for forgiven but not forgotten debt obligation to the taxpayer in the form of a convertible bond .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 09/28/2008
- moesyzlac I'm a Fan of moesyzlac 8 fans permalink
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If the plan stays together, Congress _ with approval ratings even lower than those of President Bush _ may be seen as having acted decisively at a time of national emergency.

Sorry about raising my voice, but other than Bush and his "Base", NO ONE SUPPORTS THIS BAILOUT!!!

Enough with the spin. It is bad policy and doesn't solve anything. It will cause inflation to rise sharply. I also have bad debts clogging my balance sheet, I also acted irresponsibly, I also have liquidity problems. I have my own mistakes to pay for, I can't afford to pay for the mistakes of the richest Americans, as I am trying to not become one of the poorest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 09/28/2008
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 98 fans permalink

Who supports it ?- people with large amounts of assets ( stocks and money market funds etc. that have been wiped out )- in other words Congress!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 09/29/2008
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well we no its not Barack's fault he's only been a Senator for 134 days!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 09/28/2008
- mizzou66 I'm a Fan of mizzou66 2 fans permalink

We can all sit here spitting in the wind right on up until h e l l freezes over and it won't make a difference. Taxpayers can cry foul all they like, congress will do as it pleases. The days of this being a government "by and of" the people are long over, and in the meantime the chasm between the haves and have-nots just continues to get bigger and bigger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 09/28/2008
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