Bailout Fails In The House

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JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS | September 29, 2008 11:15 PM EST | AP

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., center, and House Majority Whip Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., left, leave after a news conference on the failed vote on the financial bailout package on Capitol Hill in Washington, Monday, Sept. 29, 2008. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

WASHINGTON — In a vote that shook the government, Wall Street and markets around the world, the House on Monday defeated a $700 billion emergency rescue for the nation's financial system, leaving both parties' lawmakers and the Bush administration scrambling to pick up the pieces. Dismayed investors sent the Dow Jones industrials plunging 777 points, the most ever for a single day.

"We need to put something back together that works," a grim-faced Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said after he and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke joined in an emergency strategy session at the White House. On Capitol Hill, Democratic leaders said the House would reconvene Thursday, leaving open the possibility that it could salvage a reworked version.

Senate leaders showed no inclination to try to bring the measure to a vote before they could determine its fate in the House. President Bush, meanwhile, was scheduled to make a statement on the rescue plan Tuesday morning, the White House said.

All sides agreed the effort to bolster beleaguered financial markets, potentially the biggest government intervention since the Great Depression, could not be abandoned.

But in a remarkable display on Monday, a majority of House members slapped aside the best version their leaders and the administration had been able to come up with, bucking presidential speeches, pleading visits from Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and urgent warnings that the economy could nosedive without the legislation.

In the face of thousands of phone calls and e-mails fiercely opposing the measure, many lawmakers were not willing to take the political risk of voting for it just five weeks before the elections.

The bill went down, 228-205.

The House Web site was overwhelmed as millions of people sought information about the measure through the day.

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The legislation the administration promoted would have allowed the government to buy bad mortgages and other sour assets held by troubled banks and other financial institutions. Getting those debts off their books should bolster those companies' balance sheets, making them more inclined to lend and ease one of the biggest choke points in a national credit crisis. If the plan worked, the thinking went, it would help lift a major weight off the national economy, which is already sputtering.

Hoping to pick up enough GOP votes for the next try, Republicans floated several ideas. One would double the $100,000 ceiling on federal deposit insurance. Another would end rules that require companies to devalue assets on their books to reflect the price they could get in the market.

In the meantime, Paulson said he would work with other regulators "to use all the tools available to protect our financial system and our economy."

"Our tool kit is substantial but insufficient," he said, indicating the government intended to continue piecemeal fixes while pressing Congress for broader action.

Stocks started plummeting on Wall Street even before Monday's vote was over, as traders watched the rescue measure going down on television. Meanwhile, lawmakers were watching them back.

As a digital screen in the House chamber recorded a cascade of "no" votes against the bailout, Democratic Rep. Joe Crowley of New York shouted news of the falling Dow Jones industrials. "Six hundred points!" he yelled, jabbing his thumb downward.

The final stock carnage far surpassed the 684-point drop on the first trading day after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

In the House, "no" votes came from both the Democratic and Republican sides of the aisle. More than two-thirds of Republicans and 40 percent of Democrats opposed the bill. Several Democrats in close election fights waited until the last moment, then went against the bill as it became clear the vast majority of Republicans were opposing it.

Thirteen of the 19 most vulnerable Republicans and Democrats in an Associated Press analysis voted against the bill despite the pleas from Bush and their party leaders to pass it.

In all, 65 Republicans joined 140 Democrats in voting "yes," while 133 Republicans and 95 Democrats voted "no."

The overriding question was what to do next.

"The legislation may have failed; the crisis is still with us," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., in a news conference after the defeat. "What happened today cannot stand."

Republican leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, the minority leader, said he and other Republicans were pained to back the measure, but in light of the potential consequences for the economy and all Americans, "We need to renew our efforts to find a solution that Congress can support."

Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., said there was scant time to reopen legislation that was the product of hard-fought bipartisan negotiations.

"What happened today was not a failure of a bill, it was a failure of will," said Dodd, the Banking Committee chairman. "Our hope is that cooler heads will prevail, people will think about what they did today and recognize that this is not just scare tactics _ it's reality."

A brutal round of partisan finger-pointing followed the vote.

Republicans blamed Pelosi's scathing speech near the close of the debate _ which assailed Bush's economic policies and a "right-wing ideology of anything goes, no supervision, no discipline, no regulation" of financial markets _ for the defeat. It was not much different from her usual tough words against the president and his party.

"We could have gotten there today had it not been for the partisan speech that the speaker gave on the floor of the House," Boehner said.

Rep. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., the whip, estimated that Pelosi's speech changed the minds of a dozen Republicans who might otherwise have supported the plan.

That amounted to an appalling accusation by Republicans against Republicans, said Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman of the Financial Services Committee: "Because somebody hurt their feelings, they decide to punish the country."

More than a repudiation of Democrats, Frank said, Republicans' refusal to vote for the bailout was a rejection of their own president.

Indeed, many GOP lawmakers spurned Bush's urgent calls for action. "We have a gun to our head," said Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite, R-Fla., who opposed the bill. "This isn't legislation _ it's extortion."

The two men campaigning to replace Bush watched the situation closely _ from afar _ and demanded action.

In Iowa, Republican John McCain said his rival Barack Obama and congressional Democrats "infused unnecessary partisanship into the process. Now is not the time to fix the blame; it's time to fix the problem."

Obama said, "Democrats, Republicans, step up to the plate, get it done."

Lawmakers were under extraordinary pressure from powerful outside groups, which gave notice they considered the legislation a "key vote" _ one they would consider when rating members of Congress.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce said opponents of the bailout would pay for their stance.

"Make no mistake: When the aftermath of congressional inaction becomes clear, Americans will not tolerate those who stood by and let the calamity happen," said R. Bruce Josten, the Chamber's top lobbyist, in a letter to members.

The conservative Club for Growth made a similar threat to supporters of the bailout.

"We're all worried about losing our jobs," Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., declared in an impassioned speech in support of the bill before the vote. "Most of us say, 'I want this thing to pass, but I want you to vote for it _ not me.'"

"We're in this moment, and if we fail to do the right thing, Heaven help us," he said.

If Congress doesn't come around on a bailout, more pressure would fall on the Federal Reserve.

The Fed, which has been providing billions in short-term loans to squeezed banks to help them overcome credit stresses, could keep expanding those loans to encourage lending. And, it could keep working with other central banks to inject billions into financial markets overseas.

It also has the power to expand emergency lending to other types of companies and even to individuals if they are unable to secure adequate credit.

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Associated Press writers Jeannine Aversa, Jim Abrams and Andrew Taylor contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — In a vote that shook the government, Wall Street and markets around the world, the House on Monday defeated a $700 billion emergency rescue for the nation's financial system, leavin...
WASHINGTON — In a vote that shook the government, Wall Street and markets around the world, the House on Monday defeated a $700 billion emergency rescue for the nation's financial system, leavin...
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- gotalife I'm a Fan of gotalife 22 fans permalink

They did it anyway:

Fed Pumps Further $630 Billion Into Financial System:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/29/fed-pumps-further-630-bil_n_130289.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 09/29/2008
- MIMom I'm a Fan of MIMom 110 fans permalink
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OK - so what was the vote for? For show?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 09/29/2008
- JBS I'm a Fan of JBS 22 fans permalink
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Title of the bill sez it all:

Quote - TO AMEND THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE OF 1986 TO PROVIDE EARNINGS ASSISTANCE AND TAX RELIEF TO MEMBERS OF THE UNIFORMED SERVICES, VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS, AND PEACE CORPS VOLUNTEERS, and for other purposes - End Quote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 09/29/2008
- ssgman I'm a Fan of ssgman 8 fans permalink
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Not the same thing. The Fed can only pump money in the form of short term loans, which is good when there is a liquidity problem. The bailout was dealing with the solvency of the toxic derivatives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 09/29/2008
- JBS I'm a Fan of JBS 22 fans permalink
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The reason we got toxic derivatives in the first place is because there was TOO MUCH liquidity. It was a free-for-all ... or at least a free-for-all-Wall-Street-CON-ARTISTS!

The bailout ain't about "insulating ordinary Americans from the effects of Wall Street's bad bets", it's about protecting Wall Street Bankers from the consequences of their own criminal negligence.

"Ordinary Americans" are getting stuck with the bill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 09/29/2008

That's something completely different and separate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 PM on 09/29/2008
- ssgman I'm a Fan of ssgman 8 fans permalink
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This is going to s_crew the repubs, which is funny because those that voted against did the right thing even if for the wrong reasons. The executive pay "limits" were an absolute joke and the fact they were going to buy these assets at wildly inflated values was also bad. Congress needs to come up with a plan that is better for the American people and and can be passed in the House and Senate. The problem then would be that Bush and Paulson wouldn't like it. But it's much better to have Bush and Paulson veto the bill than try to get a bill Bushco wants that can't get through the house.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 09/29/2008
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The markets needed this to pass or at least look like it would pass before the Asian markets opened last night.

Since it did look like there was some headway being made, the Asian markets were down last night, but not crashing.

Pop some popcorn folks....the Asian Markets will open in a few hours and after that WE are toast.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 09/29/2008
- ssgman I'm a Fan of ssgman 8 fans permalink
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I hear ya on the Asian markets but I think the big boys are going to keep the markets from crashing outright--the last thing they want is a return of real populism where the idea of CEO's going to jail can become a reality. I agree something has to be done, but the bill they tried to pass was terrible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 09/29/2008

We can't relax yet! Pelosi is discussing ANOTHER vote on this outrageous taxpayer bailout of Wall Street swindlers. We must keep up the calls and emails to our representatives.

NO WELFARE FOR WALL STREET!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 09/29/2008
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You really have no idea what is going on here, do you?

If this all tanks:
NO jobs
No schools
No hospitals

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 09/29/2008
- JBS I'm a Fan of JBS 22 fans permalink
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Guess again dude ... $700 Billion Dollars could build a lot of schools and hospitals ... repair a lot of bridges ... and all of that WORK would require workers, which means more jobs ... not to mention materials - cement, steel, lumber, transportation ... which means more workers needed there and more jobs.

Or you can give it all to a bunch of thieves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 09/29/2008
- wordvarc I'm a Fan of wordvarc 32 fans permalink

Scare us more!

(We've kind of become used to it over the last 8 years.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 09/29/2008

How much you wanna bet there's a huge response from the public begging them to vote for it after the huge stock market crash today?

I'll bet most people just didn't think the threat to the economy was serious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 09/29/2008
- JoeBlough I'm a Fan of JoeBlough 61 fans permalink
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The Republicans must have some REAL dirt on Pelosi for her to keep giving into them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 09/29/2008
- mc I'm a Fan of mc permalink

Trickle down: why is it the benefits never trickled down but the misery sure did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 09/29/2008

Attn Fellow Bloggers:
This is a link to the failed roll call vote on the bail out. Please look at it. If someone who is on this list is from your state, please feel free to write/call them personally and thank them for voting their hurt feelings versus for the good of the nation. Please let them know that their "ME FIRST" politics will be given a resounding response this NOVEMBER... so they can just start packing up their desks right away.

Additionally, ire is worthless without substance, therefore - please donate to the campaigns of their opponents..

If we want an end to this kind of thing we have to be willing to put our money and our VOTES where our mouths are!!!!! Tell your friends, tell your neighbors.... now is when we act!!!!!

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 09/29/2008
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And take notice that the ones who are up for re-election are the ones who voted against it.

So many of these people cared more about their careers than the American people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 09/29/2008
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In the House of Representatives, they are ALL up for re-election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 09/29/2008
- JBS I'm a Fan of JBS 22 fans permalink
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Did you ever even take a Civics class in school?

The ENTIRE House of Representatives has to stand for election EVERY two years; all 435 members either get re-elected or get replaced.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 09/29/2008
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Aren't the people who voted for the representatives "American people"? Who do you think reelects them? One could come to the conclusion that, in this case, those who voted no have finally listened to the people they represent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 09/29/2008

DON'T KID YOURSELVES..PELOSI GOT EXACTLY WHAT SHE WANTED WHEN SHE MADE THOSE COMMENTS. DON'T THINK FOR ONE MINUTE THAT THIS WAS NOT A PLAN. THEY ALL NEED TO GO AND WE NEED TO START FROM SCRATCH.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 09/29/2008
- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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Thanks for that. Every time I have tried to get there, I get the "server is busy" message.

My Rep voted against it! Good for him.

Now let's get more than one bill up on the Hill for this mess and not rush through a bill that this administration and Wall Street wants so badly that Cheney actually came out from wherever it is he hides during the day to twist some arms. What's good for Cheney, is devastating for America.

I am going to call my Representative right now and thank him for his vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 09/29/2008
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It's too late. The Chinese gave us a warn-ing. They wanted action taken today, not next week. They hold our future in their hands.

Watch the MASSIVE sell off of American Debt in a few hours.

Whatever they do on the Hill will not matter anymore.

They had ONE chance at this, the most important vote of their careers.

And they put themselves and their elections first.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 09/29/2008
- LAThinker I'm a Fan of LAThinker 17 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 09/29/2008

After today's plunge, McCain's support for the Bush Social Security plan is scarier than ever. Take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfTUODslqIo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 09/29/2008

Yeah, the only thing that would have made the current situation better would have been if we privatized social security and invested it in the stock market.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 09/29/2008
- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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Now that the DOW has dropped over 700 points, maybe The House will consider other options.

Bush/Cheney wanted this bill so bad that Cheney came out from wherever it is he hides and went to Capitol Hill to try and get this bailout bill passed. No big piece of legislation that these two criminals have wanted to pass has done the American people any good ever! Remember the iraq war? That resolution was shoved through Congress the same way they tried to do with this bill.

Everyone here thinks that the plummet of the Dow was because of the failure of this bill and it was, only not necessarily the way people think it did. Wall Street wants this bill passed. Those same people have hundreds of millions of dollars. They could easily sell of a few million dollars of stock each to get the dow to plunge like it did. This administration and Wall Street have a gun to our heads people.

It is time to get some economists in front of the House that are NOT associated with this administration and get some other plans to be considered.

Now before any of you dis me and say that I don't have a dog in this fight, allow me let you in on something. As several people here know, I live off an annuity that is invested in the stock market. I just see rushing this bill or any bill through Congress as bad policy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 09/29/2008
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 75 fans permalink

Take the $700 billion, put into the hands of the middle class so they can pay their mortgages and into infrastructure rebuilding and all this crisis disappears, except for the whining from wall street.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 09/29/2008
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That is not the way it works. It's a very simplistic view of the problem. But this thing is global and it's not about mortgages.

It's about credit default swaps and deriviatives. And no one knows how those even work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 09/29/2008
- MIMom I'm a Fan of MIMom 110 fans permalink
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I had that idea the other day. Was told I should go be a BK fry cook or something... :-)

I wish it worked that way, but I think we are scr*wed no matter which way we go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 09/29/2008

Problem is, that wouldn't work.

And if you tried to do all that, it would actually cost way MORE than 700 billion.

And don't forget that the proposed plan was investing in the bad loans, unless they ALL failed, taxpayers would get at least some of that money back. With your proposal, it would just be a giveaway and taxpayers would never see any of that money again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 09/29/2008
- JBS I'm a Fan of JBS 22 fans permalink
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Has a better chance of working than giving all the loot over to thieves and incompetents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 09/29/2008
- Rossan I'm a Fan of Rossan 4 fans permalink

McCain should bow out. He's making his slogans of "Country First " and his "Change" message seem like a joke. Enough!! Obama 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 09/29/2008
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Just wait, he is going to come out and blame it all on Obama.

I am so sick and tired of his partisan politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 09/29/2008
- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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He already has, or at least his campaign said that a little earlier.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 PM on 09/29/2008

We are so screwed. I had this terrible feeling last night that we would be on the bread lines by the end of the week. I still have that feeling. This is seriously bad. Even going to Canada won't help in this case, because the whole world is going down with this. Welcome to the land of free markets with no regulatory oversight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 09/29/2008

MCCAIN FAILED! Country First - Suspend MCCAIN campaign permanently! Print the names of the nay votes. Take responsibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 09/29/2008
- hotwire I'm a Fan of hotwire 22 fans permalink

There will be a lot of Democrats on your list.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 09/29/2008
- Jethro13 I'm a Fan of Jethro13 5 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 09/29/2008
- crazyv I'm a Fan of crazyv 8 fans permalink

here is something that everybody can behind and will actually help fix the problem.
a. Appropriate 1trillion to boost the the FDIC.
b. Increase the the FDIC guarantee to all depositors up to 5 million, all deposists irrespective of the size made by banks below a certain size, all deposits made by money market funds providing the average is less than $5MM per share holder in the MM fund and all amounts in transactional accounts i.e. checking accounts.
c. require that all bailout by the FDIC be along the line Of Washington Mutual- the assets and deposits are transferred out and all liabilities including those to pay executives and golden parachutes get left behind.
e. Increase the SBA limit and allow Fannie/Freddie to purchase Commercial and Industrial loans.
f. Allow banks to borrow 100% of any loan they make from the Fed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 09/29/2008
- Wingit I'm a Fan of Wingit 8 fans permalink

The Treasury on Sep 19 & 21 has already guaranteed registered money market funds that were on deposit on Sep 19 for the full amount for one year. If you pull your MM funds out and put them back in, they are not insured. Think about that before you react too quickly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 09/29/2008
- coyote4 I'm a Fan of coyote4 70 fans permalink
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November 4
MAKE IT A NO-REPUBLICAN ZONE.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 09/29/2008
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