Obama To Vote On Bailout Package, McCain Says He Hopes To

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CHARLES BABINGTON | September 29, 2008 11:16 PM EST | AP

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Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and vice presidential candidate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, arrive at a rally in Columbus, Ohio, Monday, Sept. 29, 2008. At right, McCain's wife Cindy McCain. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)

WASHINGTON — The house always wins, gamblers are warned, and the U.S. House made John McCain pay Monday for his politically risky, high-profile involvement in a financial rescue plan that came crashing down, mainly at the hands of his fellow Republicans.

The bill's defeat can hardly be blamed on the GOP presidential nominee, and it's possible that a revised measure might succeed. But by his own actions last week, McCain tied himself far more tightly to the failed bill than did his Democratic opponent, Barack Obama.

McCain argues that action is better than inaction in times of crises. His efforts, however, were aimed squarely at House Republicans, the group mainly responsible for the bill's demise, which triggered a record drop of nearly 800 points in the stock market, the most ever for a single day.

If Congress' impasse leads to a credit crisis, "it's not going to be good for McCain," said veteran Republican consultant John Feehery.

Another prominent Republican strategist, who would talk only on background to avoid antagonizing associates, said the vote was trouble for McCain.

As recently as Monday morning, only minutes before the House's stunning vote, McCain suggested that his call for a White House summit meeting Thursday, and his visit with unhappy House Republicans that preceded it, had helped clear the way for the bill's passage.

"I went to Washington last week to make sure that the taxpayers of Ohio and across this great country were not left footing the bill for mistakes made on Wall Street and in Washington," he told a crowd in Columbus, Ohio. "Some people have criticized my decision, but I will never, ever be a president who sits on the sidelines when this country faces a crisis."

On NBC's "Meet the Press" Sunday, top adviser Steve Schmidt said McCain managed "to help bring all of the parties to the table, including the House Republicans, whose votes were needed to pass this."

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The comment suggested that McCain took responsibility for rounding up the needed GOP votes, "and that was probably a stupid thing for him to promise to do," said Democratic adviser Jennifer Palmieri.

On Monday, only 65 of the House's 199 Republicans went along. The defeat dealt a major blow to President Bush and threw another twist into a presidential campaign already drawing record numbers of Americans for rallies and televised events.

In a sign of the difficulty he faces, McCain made no direct comment on the House vote for about four hours. His campaign initially issued a sharply worded statement by economic adviser Doug Holtz-Eakin, who blamed Obama and other Democrats.

Just before House members voted, he said, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., "gave a strongly worded partisan speech and poisoned the outcome." House Democrats already had denounced that argument, saying it suggested GOP lawmakers based a crucial vote on pique rather than conviction.

A few hours later, a grim-faced McCain read a statement to reporters in Iowa. "I was hopeful that the improved rescue plan would have had the votes needed to pass," he said. "I call on Congress to get back, obviously, immediately to address this crisis."

Obama "and his allies in Congress infused unnecessary partisanship into the process," McCain said, adding: "Now is not the time to fix the blame; it's time to fix the problem."

Obama, of course, does face risks in the financial and political meltdown, and his party is hardly blameless for the legislation's collapse Monday. From the start, however, Obama kept more distance from the infighting, and questioned the wisdom of injecting presidential politics directly into the negotiating mix, as McCain did with the White House meeting that Obama had little choice but to attend.

Obama gave the legislative package tepid support Sunday. If several Democratic-backed additions stayed in it, he said on CBS' "Face the Nation," "my inclination would be to vote for it, understanding I'm not happy about it."

On Monday, many of the House Democrats who opposed the bill were blacks, who rank among Obama's strongest supporters. Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., was one. "I do not believe that we have explored or exhausted all possible options to directly ease the pressure on financial markets without causing an undue burden to taxpayers," he said.

During last week's negotiations, Obama and many other congressional Democrats called for several changes to the bailout plan, which the Bush administration had unveiled days earlier. They included efforts to prevent further home foreclosures, greater oversight of the plan and limits on severance packages for executives leaving companies helped by the plan.

All those items were added to some extent, although Obama's aloofness limited his ability to claim credit.

McCain's involvement was more direct, complicated and difficult to assess. After temporarily suspending his campaign last week, and just before attending the White House meeting, he met with House Republicans in the Capitol. He heard loud complaints about the bailout proposal's costs, structure and details.

When the White House session took place, McCain surprised several at the table by having little to say other than that the House Republicans' unhappiness needed attention.

Those House members forced several changes in the package on Saturday, and McCain seemed satisfied, if not enthusiastic.

"This is something that all of us will swallow hard and go forward with," he said Sunday.

He turned out to be wrong on Monday. Now his campaign must scramble to convince a worried electorate and a deeply divided party that he is the man to lead them to better times.

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EDITOR'S NOTE: Charles Babington covers national politics for The Associated Press.

WASHINGTON — The house always wins, gamblers are warned, and the U.S. House made John McCain pay Monday for his politically risky, high-profile involvement in a financial rescue plan that came c...
WASHINGTON — The house always wins, gamblers are warned, and the U.S. House made John McCain pay Monday for his politically risky, high-profile involvement in a financial rescue plan that came c...
 
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When I saw the speech of BO yesterday, IMO the failure to pass suited him. The focus can now be more aligned to Main street and his rhetoric was in line with this.

I personally do not see the crisis as insurmountable. Unless there is a total meltdown and the DOW goes to zero, we are seeing a crash of sorts but banks that rely on recycled credit to operate will find ways to raise capital.

A 1.2T drop in the USA market actually is an indicator that 700Bn will not cut it. We shall see what happens today. We are likely to see it bottom out.

There is always collateral damage in crashes like this and IMO a bail out only delays the inevitable. If the markets are allowed to find their "water level" then possibly from there a more appropriate "buy-in" or injection into the markets may be more sensible.

There was a 630Bn injection yesterday so in spite of that added liquidity, we see the need for a lowering which is how the whole world is reacting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 AM on 09/30/2008

Look at this as an Investment and the fact that WE as middle class Taxpayers will recoup this in the end and also save the markets from plummeting which "trickles" down to all walks of life. We'll save the crooks too but we have lived by this sword of capitalism and we'll die by it unless we inject some socialism into the picture for rescue's sake if nothing else. it's a FIRE SALE so we taxpayers INVESTING in this will make money at the other end..

Obama today said that he would review this bill as president and make sure that it is still working in OUR favor. He also encourage the congress to pass it. He helped add the good parts to this bill and he's proactive. Mc has injected his ignorance, bravado and partisanship (I'm sure he hasn't read the 119 page bill since he didn't read the 3 page one from last week!)

Why not read it yourself: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/28/bailout-legislation-full_n_130063.html

And here are the congresspeople votes: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll674.xml

Call your congressman and tell them to be brave and do what's best for the country and the world (yes it will help Chinese and Saudi banks, too but hey...these rethugs put us in this mess but we
must have an all for one and one for all get us out of this or we sink pointing fingers and fillibustering

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 09/29/2008

I'm not a economist but I'm a mom who raised two daughters mostly as a single parent and have had to live paycheck to paycheck for most of life as a mom. I can tell you three things tha I have seen and now this has been backed up by the respected and impartial experts:

1. The first proposal/bill put on the table WAS a Bailout indeed. It had no protections, NO oversight, NO accountability and offered too many loopholes for the rich and richer on Wall street and the "investment" class.

2. For the "main street" that we've all been buzz-wording recently, this was NOT a good plan because it didn't address anything at this level or for the "working / middle class". The tweaked bill included many of the things that Obama had insisted upon. The whole thing is not palatable because it's such a huge amount of money and it was initially presented and sold as a BAIL out, which the original was.

3. The newly tweaked bill is actually shaping up to be more of a BUY-in or an INVESTMENT. The rethugs want to add cuts in capital gains taxes, insurance additions and these sound fine on the surface but are ONLY helping the rich and richer even MORE. They are hijacking this bill to benefit their rich buddies. I don't think the bill will get better by waiting it will just get bogged down with more rethuglican pork.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 09/29/2008

Did you see McCain just spout off his typical nonsense and then walk off while the journos are trying to get him to respond to questions?

This is how this clown plans to deal with Americans' questions? What a jack*ss!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 09/29/2008
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My husband left me, with a teenage daugther to raise, I almost lost everything. I had to work 2 jobs to catch up. NOBODY BAILED ME OUT !!!! I still work 2 jobs, because that's what it takes anymore. I do not want to give these guys any more money!! If either way we will have economic hard times, then I would rather do it, without giving these Wall Street scumbags anymore of my money. Off with their heads !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 09/29/2008
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I'm in a cloud of confusion right now!

Ok. The House didn't pass this bill. I'm not sure I'm upset about it--but I'm also not sure EXACTLY what the consequences of not passing this bill will be (other than another big drop in the DOW). And I don't care necessarily about the impact on these greedy corporations. What impact will this have on taxpayers, and more specifically, their retirement investments held at these banks?

I *think* I'd be for a bailout if:
1. the price was lowered (this random $700 billion is ridiculous)
2. there were GUARANTEES that taxpayers, not big business, will BENEFIT (and no loose language!)
3. Homeowners currently in trouble are given some sort of option to re-negotiate their home loans in order to keep their houses (I mean, doesn't everyone win when that happens?--I read somewhere that the lower-income people actually have the highest repayment rate on these lame loans).
4. The bogus CEO's and company exec's are FIRED, or at least NOT compensated at ALL (how many of us get rewarded for our failures????).
5. There is REAL oversight by experts who KNOW regulation and IMPLEMENT it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 09/29/2008

Re #3 - because most of us were raised to live within our means. I was doing fine paying a mortgage I could easily afford on a house I could afford, but a job change came up and I lost $60k on my sale (buyer paid that much less than my adjusted basis - far less than I paid to buy the place) all thanks to this crisis.

Whatever happens, my money is gone forever and I did everything "right." Who speaks for me?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 09/29/2008

Have you read the bill in its entirety? You would find that many of your concerns were addressed.

My concern is for retirement funds invested by Organizations such as PERS.
My other concern is for businesses and even farmers to receive essential credit to keep functioning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 PM on 09/29/2008
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Those 12 Rep ugs who claim they changed their votes because of Pelosi's speech should be immediately removed from their offices. Any politician who would be so petty and punish the people of this country for such a reason do not deserve to get paid their salaries which come from the taxpayers they just shat on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 09/29/2008
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exactly!

behaving like petulant children is not acceptable

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 09/29/2008

Do we know if and how each of them voted? Frankly, I'm happy it failed. There are better options and as I've been saying since this came up, the urgency is fake and forced. I don't trust Bush or anything he says.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 09/29/2008

The Wall STreet Journal has published the votes.

I am distressed at some of my state's votes, but their records would have led me to expect it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 09/29/2008

This is a joke, right? If it's not, and McCain doesn't make the vote after all the drama last week of him "suspending" his campaign to parachute into Washington and save the day, then he and his camp are truly off-the-wall loopy. I mean this almost can't be accurate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 09/29/2008
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Well thats sure showing us the way to lead Sen. McCain...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 09/29/2008
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Interesting: McCain will vote if his campaign schedule permits. Obama will campaign if the vote schedule permits...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 09/29/2008

We are all f 'ed no matter what happens.
McCain is a frigging COWARD.
I hope those FDIC stickers are for real on the doors of the banks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 09/29/2008

"McCain hopes to vote on the bailout bill?" Still more obfuscation for the sake of deniability from the self-styled "maverick" and so-called "straight talking express!" Isn't the primary duty of a U.S. Senator to cast one of the two votes allotted to his or her state on critical bills like this "bail out" or "rescue" or "still more corporate welfare" bill? Oh yeah, I get it! Our war hero John McCain doesn't have the courage to vote on controversial bills that might cost him votes in his convoluted, flip-flopping, hypocritical, lobbiest run campaign for the presidency! If elected, will McCain only make decisions when he "hopes" they might work or enhance his legacy? What a farce!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 09/29/2008
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B.S. express McCain is waiting to see if Obama votes for it, so he can vote against it. Mark my words. McCain, he says, is a leader with the "knowledge and experience" to become President, yet he can't make up his mind on voting for/against the bill? LOL!! What a C O W A R D!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 09/29/2008

John McCain will suspend his campaign, call off the VP debate and ride in on his horse of a different color to save the day!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 09/29/2008

Hip hip hooray!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 09/29/2008

Now we'll see what happens to the markets WITHOUT our help. They put themselves in that mess, now let them dig themselves out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 09/29/2008
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Those Wall Street/banker jokers can afford the loss. There are millions of Americans who will not be able to get credit; get loans for cars, for schools; small businesses unable to make their payrolls. Hope spite tastes good to you; in the end we are all going to lose just because these yahoos are in fear of not getting re-elected. Cowards.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 09/29/2008

Regardless of who gets bailed out, we will all feel the pain. Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be bumpy ride. Let's remember to do what we can to help each other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 09/29/2008
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