One-In-Four Chance McCain May Not Survive 2nd Term

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First Posted: 09-30-08 02:50 PM   |   Updated: 10-31-08 05:12 AM

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WASHINGTON — If John McCain is elected and goes on to win a second term, there's as much as a one-in-four chance America could see its first woman president _ Sarah Palin.

It's actuarial math.

The odds highly favor either McCain or Barack Obama completing a first term in good health. After that, McCain's odds still are still fairly solid, but his chances of dying or being in poor health go up faster than Obama's, mainly because of his age.

An Atlanta actuarial company specializing in individualized estimates of life and health expectancy has run the numbers for McCain, 72, and Obama, 47. The firm, Bragg Associates, calculated the odds of the candidates dying in office, adjusted for their known health problems.

McCain would be the oldest president to begin a first term in office. By the end of a second term, Jan. 20, 2017, he would have a 24.44 percent chance of dying, compared with 5.76 percent for Obama, the firm estimates.

"Can either candidate expect to serve two terms in a healthy state? The answer is yes," says James C. Brooks, Jr., an actuary with the firm. "They're both in outstanding health for people of their age."

Illness is another issue.

Because chances of developing a serious ailment are higher for any person than are the chances of dying, Bragg used the candidates' medical information to estimate how many years of good health might be in store for each. After all, a debilitating illness could force a president to step down.

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The firm estimates that McCain has a health expectancy of 8.4 years, while Obama can expect another 21.9 years of good health. The calculations are from January, 2009, covering two terms in office for either candidate. McCain, if he's like others in his age group, would have a cushion of just about five months.

But no one really knows. Actuaries like Brooks make statistical calculations for insurance companies, based on numbers culled from large databases. No matter how sophisticated, they can't predict anyone's future.

"There a randomness to it that we don't know," said Ron Gebhardtsbauer, who directs the actuarial science program at Penn State's Smeal College of Business.

For example, he said, "if McCain is president, he'll get the best health care in the world. I can't crank that into any of my numbers."

Health expectancy calculations, although relatively new, are becoming increasingly important as people buy long-term-care insurance.

"We've done thousands of these health expectancy calculations for financial planners," said Brooks. "People, especially those with high net worth, are concerned more about the risk of living too long than about what happens if they die prematurely. What if they need long-term care?"

The firm's estimates for McCain and Obama relied on medical information disclosed by the candidates. Bragg Associates has no partisan agenda, said Brooks: "We don't have a dog in this hunt."

He classified the Democrat as a smoker with minor upper respiratory problems, probably linked to his smoking. Obama announced in February that he was trying to quit smoking again, with the aid of nicotine gum.

"We don't consider you a nonsmoker until you stay quit for 12 months," said Brooks.

In the spring, the Obama campaign released a letter from the candidate's doctor declaring him to be in excellent health. He had very good cholesterol levels, his EKG was normal, his pulse was 60 beats per minute, and his blood pressure was an outstanding 90 over 60. Obama also exercises regularly.

But Obama has a family history of cancer. His mother died of ovarian cancer and his maternal grandfather died of prostate cancer. Obama's PSA screening test for prostate cancer showed no sign of abnormalities.

For the Republican, Brooks took into account a history of skin cancer, degenerative arthritis from his Vietnam war injuries, moderately high cholesterol, mild vertigo and that McCain is a former smoker who quit in 1980.

McCain allowed reporters to review eight years of medical records, more than 1,000 pages. They show that he is cancer-free, has a strong heart and is generally in good health. As a three-time melanoma survivor, his biggest health worry is a recurrence of that cancer. But he is closely watched by his dermatologist, and any future melanoma should be caught in time to be treated successfully. McCain maintains a healthy weight and blood pressure, and takes medication for his cholesterol.

Vice presidential candidates Joe Biden and Sarah Palin have not released their medical records, although Biden has promised to. Biden, 65, had surgery 20 years ago to repair a life-threatening brain aneurysm. He was out of the Senate for seven months while he recuperated but says he's fine now. Palin, 44, a mother of five, gave birth earlier this year to a son, Trig, who was born with Down syndrome.

Read More: New Urgency Over McCain Medical Questions As Election Nears WASHINGTON — If John McCain is elected and goes on to win a second term, there's as much as a one-in-four chance America c...
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- pjburns11 I'm a Fan of pjburns11 8 fans permalink
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Hey Nothing to worry about there! We are in safe hands with Palin.... right?

Read more about McCain's health here:

http://thetruthburns.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/mccains-maverick-left-eye-a-history-of-presidential-infirmity/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 10/02/2008
- wrylass I'm a Fan of wrylass 4 fans permalink

Any actuarial word on when Alzheimer's will kick in?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 10/01/2008
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I'm sorry, but a Presidential candidate's responsibility in choosing a VP, is primarily that they can replace them as President in ANY event. Put aside the obvious health reasons, but one also has to consider unexpected events as well. McCain could choke on a pretzel on his third day in office and die. We don't have statistics for accidents that can happen, but one cannot only count on one's health.
Same with Obama, as young and healthy as he may be, he definitely considered the eventuality of the unexpected when choosing his VP. Biden CAN be President, anyday, should anything happen!
The health problems and the age of McCain, should have only been EXTRA reasons for him to make sure his VP would be ready to be Pres, but IMO even if he was the healthiest young stallion, he still had the obligation to the country to consider ANY eventuality and choose accordingly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 10/01/2008

I'm Nurse Barb and yesterday was inundated with questions on Melanoma. I have appeared regularly on ABC's View from The Bay in San Francisco as a health expert, and posted an unbiased explanation of Melanoma on my site.

http://barbsdailydose.typepad.com/barbs_daily_dose/2008/09/skin-cancer.html

Be well,

NurseBarb

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 10/01/2008

I'm sorry, but the article I read on melanoma, and the video of the doctors who deal with melanoma said that McSnake has a life expectancy of 10 years AFTER his last sugery. This year would be his 8th, so he is likely not to survive his FIRST presidency let alone a second.
The American public has got to see to it this venal evil man never gets near the White House EVER!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 10/01/2008

I would be surprised if her survived the first term if elected (which he better not be)....

i mean, think about how much people age in office... look at clinton in 92 and then 2000...

http://grantlingel.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 AM on 10/01/2008

Deb in Phx. said it best.

AMERICA CAN'T SURVIVE ANY TERM OF MCAINAIC ADMINHELLI­STRATION!!­!!!

__________­__________­__________­__________­_
The video that left America speechless...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iIYRZWBd9Y

And made me cry...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 AM on 10/01/2008
- Daisy1111 I'm a Fan of Daisy1111 8 fans permalink

Can someone direct me to Sentaor O b a m a 's public health records?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 10/01/2008

Well, that's fine... he may or may not be able to survive through a second term...
.....America couldn't survive the first... so what difference could that possibly make? We are
cooked if he makes it into office... I'm thinking Panama (seriously).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 10/01/2008
- wazzucoug I'm a Fan of wazzucoug 2 fans permalink

Let's just hope that he doesn't get elected to the first term and if he does, God help us all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 AM on 10/01/2008

McCain gave an interview to the Des Moines Register today.

He said, "if I were dictator, which I always aspire to be..."

Yikes! This should disqualify him from even running.

We did also notice that McCain continued to attempt to get the reptilian independent voter block with his patented tongue flick.

Here is the link.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=videonetwork&maven_playerId=immersiveplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=b959b1ca832e44b7543c0c1d3b9b6ef23903c7fc&maven_referralObject=873470075

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 10/01/2008
- wrylass I'm a Fan of wrylass 4 fans permalink

I suspect he has the reptilian vote all tied up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 10/01/2008
- Freakpower I'm a Fan of Freakpower 20 fans permalink
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One in eight chance, HE doesn't serve One term!!!!!

Palin /Cantor 2020!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 10/01/2008
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The question is moot. McCain isn't going to have a first term much less a second term.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 10/01/2008

From your lips to God's ears.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 10/01/2008
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Word!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 AM on 10/01/2008
- RJII I'm a Fan of RJII 76 fans permalink
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I'm betting he conks flat out year 2.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 09/30/2008
- JulianJons I'm a Fan of JulianJons 2 fans permalink
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LOL man you are rough, have some respect for grandpappy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 PM on 09/30/2008
- RJII I'm a Fan of RJII 76 fans permalink
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Grandpappy is too mean and fiesty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 10/01/2008
- Agnim I'm a Fan of Agnim 6 fans permalink

1 in 2 chance McCaint will not survive even one term!

Lobbyist who are swirling like vultures around McCaint would have an even greater feast on a President Falin after they pick McCaint bones. lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 09/30/2008
- OtayPanky I'm a Fan of OtayPanky 66 fans permalink
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So what?

That's why our system has a vice-president.

Right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 09/30/2008
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That might be the way it works, but in this case, it's not a win-win situation.

It's a lose big-lose bigger situation - and we all will lose if McCain's dream becomes realized.

It'll be a constant nightmare for us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 AM on 10/01/2008
- OtayPanky I'm a Fan of OtayPanky 66 fans permalink
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Why didn't I think of that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 10/01/2008
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