China's Gold Medal Gymnasts Determined To Be Of Age

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NANCY ARMOUR | October 1, 2008 06:29 PM EST | AP

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In this Aug. 18, 2008 file photo, China's gymnast gold medal winner He Kexin, left, and China's bronze medalist Yang Yilin are shownl during the medal ceremony for the uneven bars apparatus finals at the Beijing 2008 Olympics in Beijing. The investigation into the ages of China's gold-medal women's gymnastics team has been expanded to include members of the 2000 team that won a bronze in Sydney, The Associated Press has learned. Questions about the ages of the Chinese gymnasts at the 2008 Summer Olympics had swirled for months before the games. The International Gymnastics Federation at the IOC's urging, asked China three days before the games ended to provide more information on the ages of five of the six team members: He Kexin, Yang Yilin, Jiang Yuyuan, Deng Linlin and Li Shanshan. (AP Photo/Matt Dunham, File)

Though the case is closed on China's Olympic gold medalists, the age controversy in gymnastics is far from over.

Documents confirm all six members of China's gold medal team at the Beijing Games were old enough to compete, the International Gymnastics Federation said Wednesday. But it wants more answers from two members of China's 2000 squad _ Dong Fangxiao and Yang Yun _ saying it "does not consider the explanations and evidence provided to date in regards to these athletes as satisfactory."

It also is moving forward with a licensing system that would serve as proof of age for a gymnast's entire career.

"It's not about the medal," said Dominique Dawes, part of the U.S. squad that finished fourth behind China at the 2000 Olympics. "The important issue is them righting a wrong and hopefully prohibiting future Olympians from being underage. It's really about making sure every athlete is doing things the right way."

Dong's official birthdate is listed as Jan. 20, 1983. But her accreditation information for the Beijing Olympics, where she worked as a national technical official, lists her birthdate as Jan. 23, 1986, said Andre Gueisbuhler, the FIG's secretary general.

"If that document is the correct one, that would suggest she was 14 years old at the Sydney Olympic Games," Gueisbuhler said.

Gymnasts must turn 16 during an Olympic year to be eligible to compete.

Calls to Yang and Dong's mobile phones rang unanswered Wednesday, a national holiday. So did phone calls to the Chinese gymnastics team's media officers.

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Questions about the ages of China's Beijing squad had swirled for months, with media reports and online records suggesting some girls could be as young as 14. China insisted _ heatedly and repeatedly _ that all six gymnasts were old enough and said it had the documents to prove it. Any discrepancies, Chinese officials said, were the result of Web site inaccuracies or paperwork errors.

When the IOC asked the FIG three days before the games ended to investigate one last time, China provided original passports, ID cards and family registers for He Kexin, Yang Yilin, Jiang Yuyuan, Deng Linlin and Li Shanshan. All showed the girls were 16 or would turn 16 this year.

"For the FIG, the age of the Chinese team is well documented and proven," Gueisbuhler said.

The furor surrounding the ages of China's gold medalists might have gotten the most attention, but underage gymnasts have been the sport's dirty little secret for years. Since the minimum age was raised from 14 to 15 in 1981 to protect young, still-developing athletes from serious injuries, there have been several examples of countries trying to skirt the rules.

The minimum age was raised to its current 16 in 1997.

Romania admitted some of its gymnasts' ages had been falsified, including Olympic medalists Gina Gogean and Alexandra Marinescu. Gymnasts from the Soviet Union said their birthdates were changed to allow them to compete.

And North Korea was banned from the 1993 world championships after FIG officials discovered Kim Gwang Suk, the 1991 gold medalist on uneven bars, was listed as 15 for three years in a row.

"There is a history of this, which is why I think the FIG feels so strongly about needing a license," said Steve Penny, president of USA Gymnastics. "If you're going to have the rule, you have to be able to enforce it.

"This situation has brought a higher sense of (emphasis) on, how do we address that in such a way that we don't give someone just another piece of paper to show but there's a policy in place that leaves no question."

A licensing system might have prevented all of the controversy _ or at least brought it to a quicker end.

Beginning next year, the FIG will require any gymnast who competes in an international competition at the junior or senior level to have a license based on a passport. The hope is this will prevent cheating, because most gymnasts begin competing internationally several years before appearing at an Olympics or world championships.

"I'm really applauding anything they're going to put in place to try and avoid this situation from happening again," Dawes said. "People are just going to brush it off, saying, 'Oh, they were 14.' It's just as serious, I feel, as the performance-enhancing drug issue."

There are loopholes, of course. Gymnasts who don't compete internationally until right before an Olympics or worlds would not need a license, and therefore the FIG wouldn't have its own record. The FIG also would have to trust that the passports gymnasts submitted were, indeed, legitimate.

"Be it with age, be it with doping, be it with judges, if we believe in fair play in sport and to be a role model for youth and we believe in the values of the Olympic movement, then I think it is our duty to be serious about it," Gueisbuhler said, "and do all we can to ensure these rules are enforced."

That's why the FIG is pursuing its investigation of the 2000 squad.

"Clearly they feel that there is more to be looked at for Sydney," said Emmanuelle Moreau, spokeswoman for the International Olympic Committee. "We encourage them to pursue their inquiry and shed some light on these cases. We now rely on them to get to the bottom of that and get back to us."

In addition to Dong's Beijing accreditation, her blog says she was born in the Year of the Ox in the Chinese zodiac, which dated from Feb. 20, 1985, to Feb. 8, 1986. Dong has not denied that, but she refused to answer any questions about her age, telling the AP last week, "I've left the gymnastics team."

Yang, who also won a bronze medal on the uneven bars in 2000, said in a June 2007 interview that aired on state broadcaster China Central Television that she was 14 in Sydney.

Yang, who is engaged to Beijing men's all-around champion Yang Wei, told the AP last week that she had misspoken, declining further comment.

"Everyone has misspoken before. On television shows, there are always slips of the tongue," she said, declining to comment further.

While it continues to investigate the ages of Dong and Yang, the FIG also is exploring its legal options. The FIG's statute of limitations in disciplinary issues is five years, but it can be extended to 10 years for criminal matters. If cause were found, the punishment could be as severe as stripping medals.

"I would hope that the whole world in sport realizes that the FIG is serious about these rules and the ethics and moral questions," Gueisbuhler said.

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Associated Press Writers Graham Dunbar in Geneva, Stephen Wilson in London and Anita Chang and Gillian Wong in Beijing contributed to this report.

Though the case is closed on China's Olympic gold medalists, the age controversy in gymnastics is far from over. Documents confirm all six members of China's gold medal team at the Beijing Games were...
Though the case is closed on China's Olympic gold medalists, the age controversy in gymnastics is far from over. Documents confirm all six members of China's gold medal team at the Beijing Games were...
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no Documentation proves anything!

China can fabricate any documents they want which they obviously did to allow these clearly underage girls to compete

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 AM on 10/02/2008

Mmmm, we have a Rumsfeld's follower here: "The absence of evidence is not necessarily the evidence of absence." Congrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 10/02/2008
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point it there is no evidence other than the fact that these girls are clearly underage or on some serious drugs

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 10/02/2008

I could care less if they are 13, 14 or 40. We have bigger problems, than worrying whether China cheated in the Olympics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 10/01/2008
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yeah like the fact that China will soon dominate this country financially and they have a brutal, corrupt government that is rarely spoken about

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 AM on 10/02/2008

The same semi-coherents were trying to scare Americans that Japanese were taking over USA in 90s. Now it's the Chinese turn to be the Yellow Peril. Calm down and mind your own business, literally.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 10/02/2008
- MaybeMilo I'm a Fan of MaybeMilo 38 fans permalink
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...it must be the melamine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 10/01/2008

more likely to be absence of Coke, Big Macs, fries, Doritos, Tostitos, burritos, M&M, Snickers and Gummy Bears, in the diet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 10/02/2008
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You know just because those people aren't overgrown like we are you want to accuse these people of fraud. Our 9 year olds are having their periods and growing breasts and noone stops to wonder what al the growth hormones in our milk are doing to our children.
And yes, I know that gymnists are usually smaller by nature but this still this does not address this alarming issue.

This has been a public service announcement!

(I'll get off my soapbox now. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 10/01/2008
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Last year a few of the girls that were on the Olympic team they entered a competition and said they were thirteen years old and then the year the Olympics comes up and they're suddenly sixteen years old. Maybe time goes faster in China.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 10/01/2008

Sometimes due to various sport regulations it pays to lie to say you're 13 y.o. I've seen teachers lie about participant ages at piano competitions I adjudicated. Sometimes they lie up and sometime down depending on age- brackets. You willing to believe that they would lie up to enter one competition but not willing to believe they'd lie down to enter another. Think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 10/01/2008
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take your own advice

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 AM on 10/02/2008

China's gold medal gymnasts were old enough to compete in the Beijing Olympics, the sport's governing body said Wednesday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 10/01/2008
- antworks I'm a Fan of antworks 4 fans permalink
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This is a situation that should have been left alone in the first place. China's team won (fair and square) and a lot of people got upset about their victory! Period. There are a lot of sore losers in this world. This is a prime example of another reason why I say the Olympics should be eliminated altogether, if POLITICS can't be left out of the games.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 10/01/2008
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It wasn't just politics. It was based on evidence found on an official Chinese website that got scrubbed as soon as questions arose about how underage He Kexin appeared to be. That's not politics, it's fact-finding based on legitimate suspicion. And that suspicion bore fruit in the form of a different birthdate than was was stated on her government-issued passport.

I'm very interested in this subject, and I don't care which country wins. I just want it to be fair, regardless. I thought the top performing gymnasts were amazing. Hypernationalism is the sign of a small mind. (As is, frankly, the assumption that anyone with legitimate questions about age eligibility is guilty of it.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 10/01/2008

Website information is NOT evidence. Well, there was a fact- finding and it was determined that China gymnasts are of legal age.You seem to not want to accept international judgment when it doesn't meet your prejudices.Talking about small minds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 10/01/2008
- strifeknot I'm a Fan of strifeknot 14 fans permalink

As if younger, less experienced athletes is an advantage. The Chinese team was better, get over it, whiners.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 PM on 10/01/2008
- piquet I'm a Fan of piquet 14 fans permalink
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Actually it is. When you land a 65lb body with underdeveloped "junk" you don't falter. Compared to a WOMAN that has a normal developed body which moves away from the core of the body causing instability. Plus the fact that when your 12y/o it is a fact that you are somewhat fearless because your underdeveloped anxiety doesn't reflect in your performance.

Before you mouth off...understand sport. If you want to call it that. In my opinion anything judged should go. You will NEVER have impartiality when humans are involved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:27 PM on 10/01/2008

There were WOMEN ??? competing at Olympic gymnastics...... now this is a sick joke.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 10/01/2008
- Destin I'm a Fan of Destin 55 fans permalink
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Hey, I like planes, so let's have a competition by my version of the Chinese rules.

We race at the Reno Air Races. I get my pick of Strega, Dago Red, Voodoo or even Precious Metal.

You get the choice of a Cessna 172.

Ready, set, go.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 PM on 10/01/2008
- Huffyfan I'm a Fan of Huffyfan 11 fans permalink
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i can not pretend to know that the chinese authorities are telling the truth , but I know a chinese girl in our supermarket who does not look older than 20years old . she is tiny and skinny with the most amazing bright skin . she told me she was 33 . i could not believe it .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 10/01/2008
- Brett Ashley McKenzie - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Brett Ashley McKenzie 32 fans permalink

Right. And in other news, John McCain is 30.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 10/01/2008

...and Sarah Palin can see Russia from her front porch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 10/01/2008
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In dog years!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 10/01/2008

Liars, what can we expect from a country that steals from Americans in every other way? LIARS. Sorry, not buying it, ladies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 10/01/2008
- DrJimmy I'm a Fan of DrJimmy 6 fans permalink

Right.....like on Wall Street......SHUT UP!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 10/01/2008

Speaking of robbery. Puppy, you've been obviously robbed of your senses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 10/01/2008

Looks like he ripped you off too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 10/03/2008
- DAE I'm a Fan of DAE 13 fans permalink
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Hey why don't you go back to where you belong, like some cave in Europe and give the land and house you live in back to the native people who lived here long before your ancestors stole it, you a rse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 10/01/2008
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I don't understand why this continues to be such a big story. Whining about the other kids being too young just sounds weak . What about all the other 'suspicious' performances that have not been highlighted where drugs may have been involved. Worst of all we did a terrible job of celebrating some of our best performances because of all the tine spent on this story.
Anybody see the women's soccer gold medal match ? .... I thought this was one of the best performances from any team or individual and it hardly got a mention in prime time. These were great games ... time to move on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 10/01/2008

These people think that anyone that beats an American must have cheated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 10/01/2008
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I'm one of the suspicious ones and I don't care which country takes home the most medals. Stop generalizing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 10/01/2008
- piquet I'm a Fan of piquet 14 fans permalink
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It's not about being "American" it's about rules. When cheating is involved the "sport" becomes useless and merely a farce. Which is fine. Just call it what it is then... Cirque de' Sole(sp?...I’m not French)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 10/01/2008

BS, they are children.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 10/01/2008
- pixy242a I'm a Fan of pixy242a 2 fans permalink

While I agree that the Chinese Govt is not above cheating, I must make an observation that the majority of Chinese have a slighter build than westerners.

I recent watched a BBC/Open University (British) 5-part documentary called Chinese School. The KG kids were supposed to be 6 or 7 but looked about 4.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 10/01/2008
- roald I'm a Fan of roald 16 fans permalink

It's not so much the appearance as competing in other events where the records show ages in conflict with ages given for the Olympics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 10/01/2008
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I taught in China for 4 years. That girl is about 12-14. I agree that some people are sore losers but she's not the age that they say she is. Marion Jones... rightfully... got stripped of her medals...so should the Chinese.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 10/01/2008
- Destin I'm a Fan of Destin 55 fans permalink
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I agree, if someone cheats they should be stripped of awards and accolades. Marion Jones as you said, was rightfully stripped. As have been more American athletes than I care to remember. But I hold our athletes to the same standard. That if you're gonna compete, you have to do so with honor and integrity. Cheating gets you neither one.

By the way, I like to think back on the one example of cheating in which the perpetrator pulled out of the competition and admitted his guilt before the competition was over. And that person? LOL, country singer Marty Robbins while racing in Nascar.

http://www.automedia.com/Marty_Robbins:_NASCAR_Star,_Country_Music_Legend/pht20080801mr/2

In the "Big Rig" section about his cheating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUVH5irl66M

Starting at 3:54 talks about his famous cheat, why he did it, why he turned himself in, why he refused the award they were gonna give him, about the fallout over his cheating from the officials and drivers.

By the way, doesn't he look suspiciously like Dale Earnhardt Sr? ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 10/01/2008
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