Debating Sarah Palin: A First Hand Account

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First Posted: 10- 1-08 08:36 AM   |   Updated: 11- 1-08 05:12 AM

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Christian Science Monitor :

When he faces off against Sarah Palin Thursday night, Joe Biden will have his hands full.

I should know. I've debated Governor Palin more than two dozen times. And she's a master, not of facts, figures, or insightful policy recommendations, but at the fine art of the nonanswer, the glittering generality. Against such charms there is little Senator Biden, or anyone, can do.

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When he faces off against Sarah Palin Thursday night, Joe Biden will have his hands full. I should know. I've debated Governor Palin more than two dozen times. And she's a master, not of facts, figur...
When he faces off against Sarah Palin Thursday night, Joe Biden will have his hands full. I should know. I've debated Governor Palin more than two dozen times. And she's a master, not of facts, figur...
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- timezone I'm a Fan of timezone 10 fans permalink

She is truly the Renaissance woman......she can participate in a beauty content, gut a moose with one hand and say God "wants" this, to push her point (as she did on video re the Iraq War,)......and all before noon! Go Biden!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 10/02/2008
- PT6 I'm a Fan of PT6 25 fans permalink

LETS MAKE THIS DEBATE ABOUT MISUSE OF POWER BY TOP OFFICIALS!

I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR HER "EXPLANATION" OF THAT!

I STILL WANT TO KNOW WHAT READING SHE DOES. EXACT PERIODICALS - JUST TWO!
WITH A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION ON WHAT SHE GETS FROM THEM!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 AM on 10/02/2008
- timezone I'm a Fan of timezone 10 fans permalink

Magazines: Soldier of Fortune and Martha Stewart

Because? They give her everything she needs to take over the world, but do it in a tasteful way

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 10/02/2008

I worry that Palin will wear her hair down and have one of those spy ear piece on and a team member will tell her what to say. Then on top of giving the correct answer she will use her charm and her smile to win over the american people. Come on people do you really think McCain will send her out in front of the american public with out some help!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 10/01/2008
- PT6 I'm a Fan of PT6 25 fans permalink

THAT IS ONE GREAT POINT!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 10/02/2008
- jayburd I'm a Fan of jayburd 14 fans permalink
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Maybe she wasn't a good debater, maybe he was a bad one. And, for that matter, maybe they had a rotten moderator. We are talking about Alaska, after all...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 10/01/2008
- redsongia I'm a Fan of redsongia 88 fans permalink
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I saw clips from that debate and, sorry Halco, you came across as "unlikable."

Biden is pretty likable. In fact, many people who don't know Biden well will turn in for Palin and will walk away saying, "wow, I really like that Biden guy!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 10/01/2008

Her golly gee whiz act is really getting old. The debate is no place for that kind of nonsense. She will need to show a serious side, as well as giving concrete examples to questions asked. I don't think Gwen Ifill will let her get away with "I'll find some and bring 'em to ya". This is the only way she will be able to even get out of this with a tie. It's the best she can do, and even that is going to be difficult for her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 10/01/2008

"Folksy Nothingness".......
Funny thing, during the Dems primaries, Obama was accused of being an empty suit. Full of speeches and low on specifics. Now the blogger is telling me she basically said folksy statements in the Alaska governor's race and got elected. What does that say about the voting public of Alaska which they elect Caribu Barbie over people that actually know a little something about policy and law? What does that say about the hypocracy of the media and the pundants wanting every minute detail of an Obama proposal. What I really can't get my head around are the number of Hillary supporters who have jumped ship to McBush simply because he nominated what is becoming with more and more exposure, is an empty skirt despite how smart and detailed Hillary is......

This is the continuation of the dumbing down of this country. JB has the knowledge. Caribu Barbie has the smile and country charm and will probably will be declared the winner. I watched Bill Clinton campaign for Obama in Florida and I was quite impressed with how instead he poo-pooed the other side, he made the case for Obama/Bide­n---especi­ally the point that Obama will have to concentrate on the domestic front, Biden is the person that can be trusted to travel around the world and begin and work on repairing America's image with both friend and foe. I liked how Bill broke it all down for the crowd----being folksy, but full of substance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 10/01/2008
- mr-e I'm a Fan of mr-e permalink
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"On paper, the difference in experience on both domestic and foreign policy is like the difference between shooting a bullet and throwing a bullet. Unfortunately for Biden, if recent history is an indicator, experience or a grasp of the issues won't matter when it comes to debating Palin."

I beg to differ. The better analogy would be "the difference between shooting a bullet and _having_ a bullet".

Or even better, "the difference between shooting a bullet and knowing what a bullet is..."

Oh wait, that one won't work, I forgot she's a moose-shooter.

Just for my own edification-- does that go under "Domestic Issues", "Environmental Impact" or "Gun Rights Advocation" ???

Anybody?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 10/01/2008
- redsongia I'm a Fan of redsongia 88 fans permalink
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Joe Biden is not only knowledgable as heck, but very "average Joe" and a good explainer. One reason he's asked on Meet the Press so often is because he talks to a level almost anyone can understand, and then he fills their head with the actual issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 PM on 10/01/2008
- redsongia I'm a Fan of redsongia 88 fans permalink
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I think everyone will tune in for Palin sensationalism, hoping she'll gaffe. I predict she'll do fine. Also, I predict everyone in the country will go up about 4 IQ points after listening to Biden lay it out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 10/01/2008
- HeIsTheOne I'm a Fan of HeIsTheOne 206 fans permalink
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I would rather hold my fellow voters accountable than try to hold Palin to that measure.

A majority vote for booosh twice speaks volumes to the human condition in this country that people are more comfortable with ignorance than excellence. It's easier. But very dangerous.

Forget Palin. Tell your friends they need to make an accountable decision on November 4. Like Jon Stewart said "I want my leaders to be elitist".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 10/01/2008

"We have seen the enemy and it is us", the "average" Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 10/01/2008
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"A majority vote for booosh twice speaks volumes to the human condition in this country"...
I'm sorry, but you must have been looking at some other elections. If you are going to despair over the American people, please despair that they can't get anybody in Washington to pay attention to the Constitution, which requires an impeachment and election laws which require all registered voters have a right to have their votes counted. Bush was never elected by a majority vote. He was appointed by the Supreme Court (7 out of 9 are republicans) the first time in spite of getting fewer votes than Gore. There were several thousand voters who were denied their rights which in my book indicates a rigged election. The second time he didn't win they just got better at stuffing voting machines and cutting Democratic voters out of the rolls. The "human condition", I suggest, is more like the condition of dairy cattle owned by an drunken farmer. Most Americans are too domesticated to hit the streets and demand a fair election. They are afraid to admit there is no democratic process left in Washington. We can only hope the farmer sobers up enough to milk us in time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 10/01/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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more surreal moments of ReThugs trying to sound like Populist Liberals
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwoVtFIBBpc&eurl=

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 10/01/2008

Sarah better bring more than her looks and a laugh to this debate. The world will be watching and she will be scrutinized by everyone..­..pundits, citizens, scholars..­..everyone­, not just Alaska.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 10/01/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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RovianPolitics have Jumped the Shark

they have overplayed every card in the deck

foolish

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 10/01/2008
- 000Jade000 I'm a Fan of 000Jade000 67 fans permalink

Anyone else wonder if the McCampaign knew about Gwen Ifil's book and agreed to have her moderate so if and when Palin embarrasses herself, they can blame the "biased" Gwen for it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 10/01/2008

First thing I thought of, yeah.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 10/01/2008

Yes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 PM on 10/01/2008

I think you can't compare her last debates with tomorrow's debate. The entire country is going to be watching, she won't get away with looking cute and saying nothing, if she does as badly as she did with her recent interviews, MacCain campaign is OVER .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 10/01/2008

Wow. Based on this article, all Palin has to do is show up, smile and look pretty, make a few jabs while maintaing an artificial smile, pretend to be everyone's friend, and spout nonsense and she'll be declared the winner. Half the american public will buy into her cutesy, folksy but false persona. She is as fake as the plastic flowers adorning the windowsill. Stop drinking the kool aid !!! She's not like you and me. She's not running for Chairman of the PTA. She's running for the highest offices in the land. Shouldn't we expect more from our leaders? This is scary. What is our country coming to?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 10/01/2008

This article is nothing but nonsense. How do you speak this ignorance out of your mouth and then have the audacity to put it in writing! Something is wrong with this picture people! It seems to me they all think alike. If that's all it takes..let all us run for VP.

We need to get serious! This is our country at stake here people! Wake the hell up! The game is over..get over it Repubs. Palin is a loser!

OBAMA-BIDEN 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 10/01/2008

I'm tired of feeling like I'm smarter than our president. And that's really not saying much. Can't we for once look for a duo who is capable, and not folksy and vapid? Jeez. I want my prez and vice prez to be more intelligent than I am. I'm so tired of Bush and now Palin. I'm coming up with better answers to Couric's questions. That's lame. Obama/Biden '08 PLEASE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 10/01/2008
- Jinxykb I'm a Fan of Jinxykb 14 fans permalink
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This was very insightful!! Some people are stupid and will fall for her when she becomes 'increasingly adorable' after being cornered ('I don't know! I guess we'll just have to find out! Peow! Peow! Peow!')

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 10/01/2008
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