Pro-War Group Offering Cash For Frats To Demonstrate At VP Debate

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First Posted: 10- 1-08 11:19 AM   |   Updated: 11- 1-08 05:12 AM

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In hopes of organizing a robust demonstration for the vice presidential debate this Thursday in St. Louis, the pro-Iraq War (and ostensibly pro-McCain) organization, Vets for Freedom, is resorting to offering local college fraternities hundreds of dollars if their members come and hold signs.

In an email obtained by the Huffington Post, Vets for Freedom field staffer Laura Meyer offered a fraternity at St. Louis University a "sizable donation" - plus free lunch - if it could use their pledges to demonstrate outside the VP debate.

"I was emailing you today," wrote Meyer, "because I am trying to find people who would be willing to hold up signs for a few hours in the afternoon this Thursday outside the VP debate site. It's only for a few hours and you can gain a lot from it.... first off, lunch for any guys who agree to volunteer will be on me. Secondly, they will get lots of media attention! My organization did a similar thing in Mississippi last week and a ton of them were on TV. Meaning, the guys could wear their [REDACTED] gear while holding up our signs and get attention for their frat. Also, they will get to hang out with a bunch of really cool Iraq and Afghanistan war veterans.

"Lastly, and here's the kicker.... if you guys can get us at least 20 volunteers for those few hours, my organization will make a sizable donation to your fraternity. If you use pledges you could look at it as 'free money and free publicity'. If this sounds like something you may be willing to help us out with, please let me know ASAP!"

Reached by phone, Meyer said the total amount of cash the frat could earn was between $200 and $250 for organizing 20-plus members. She also noted that the program was a success in generating publicity during last Friday's presidential debate.

Judy Mayka, a spokesperson for the national chapter, said that the practice of paying for demonstrators had been going on without their knowledge and would subsequently end.

"Obviously this was not a direction from national and we have contacted the Missouri staffers and volunteers and told them it is not appropriate in our policy," she said. "And those who choose to attend the vice presidential debate should not be compensated."

As for the payments made for volunteers during the Mississippi presidential debate, Mayka added: "We will be looking into that."

The practice of paying volunteers is perfectly legal, and having scores of rowdy pro-war supporters cheering on the backdrop of TV sets can be an effective way for Vets for Freedom to disseminate its message.

But keep in mind, some of the people demonstrating outside the VP debate had a choice to make: take the money from Vets for Freedom or subject themselves to a night of hazing and binge drinking. On Thursday, we will see how many chose the former.

In hopes of organizing a robust demonstration for the vice presidential debate this Thursday in St. Louis, the pro-Iraq War (and ostensibly pro-McCain) organization, Vets for Freedom, is resorting to ...
In hopes of organizing a robust demonstration for the vice presidential debate this Thursday in St. Louis, the pro-Iraq War (and ostensibly pro-McCain) organization, Vets for Freedom, is resorting to ...
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Just shows how sleezy the conservative base is and the fact they don't realize their day is over and their ideology no longer works for today's societies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 10/01/2008
- cheeriogirl I'm a Fan of cheeriogirl 127 fans permalink

UNBELIEVABLE that we are paying the Iraqis so they won't shoot us, to end the war

yet

in St. Louis they are paying artificial " protesters" to promote the war.

I think the fake protestors are getting taken.

The Iraqis are paid more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 10/01/2008

10 bux a head... hardly worth it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 10/01/2008
- provgrays I'm a Fan of provgrays 35 fans permalink

For a frat boy, 10 bucks will buy a 12 pack of domestic beer.

Clearly worth it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 10/01/2008
- bandolier I'm a Fan of bandolier 3 fans permalink

If they're trying to get Wash U frat kids - money means nothing to them. They all drive Hummers, BMWs, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 10/01/2008

Aren't these the same kids who would be sent to Iraq, if needed? You'd think they'd maybe not be so pro-War.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 10/01/2008
- RenoSage I'm a Fan of RenoSage 21 fans permalink

Yesterday Obama gave a speech at UNR and in addition to 10,000 listeners, were a dozen "protestors". One, a college student, held a sign reading: Obama for change means COMMUNISM".
He had probably never heard of President Eisenhower and the McCarthy years.
Communism yet. Disgusting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 10/01/2008
- provgrays I'm a Fan of provgrays 35 fans permalink

The rich profit from wars and the poor fight them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 10/01/2008
- WasteNJ I'm a Fan of WasteNJ 30 fans permalink
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Are they planning on buying votes as well? Pretty pathetic that they need to bribe broke college kids to hold up signs and pose as Iraq vets.

Maybe we should give these guys a heads up so they can show up and outflank these jokers.

Iraq Vets Against the War
http://ivaw.org/

Vets For Obama
http://vetsforobama.org/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 10/01/2008
- HamletsMill I'm a Fan of HamletsMill 260 fans permalink
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Add these guys too that have veteranss from WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf War I, Iraq, and Afghanistan. I am one of them. Look at the damage just one draft dodging frat boy did to us over the last 8 years. I say draft these college kids and send them into hell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHJ7nEvtSB8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y1YL9C8Hfw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7EshD3T5AE

Then maybe they will understand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 10/01/2008
- Indubio I'm a Fan of Indubio 25 fans permalink

Simple solution is to use the Bush approach and organize demonstrator into areas away from candidates so they don't muck up photo opportunities.

Seriously, why doesn't PDA or Move On hold counter demonstration with 10 times the people holding up signs that "We didn't get paid to do this." The way to deal with this is to expose it ad use it against the perpetrators not whine about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 10/01/2008
- Erdgeist I'm a Fan of Erdgeist 83 fans permalink
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This reminds me of the paid "goon squads" who were hired by the factory owners to beat up union members who were striking. Let's hope the Greeks have more sense. As a Vietnam Veteran no veteran in their right mind would support John Sidney McCain--not the way he has treated veterans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 10/01/2008
- crease I'm a Fan of crease 10 fans permalink

If I was a VETERAN I would be disgusted by Mcwars and the rest of the re-pukes.Here is a guy that voted no on the G.I.Bill and yet these guys stand by him, how phucked up is that?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 10/01/2008
- ouroborous I'm a Fan of ouroborous 62 fans permalink
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As disturbing and amusing as this is, it's hardly news. All political campaigns (even, I guarantee you, Obama) pay protesters to carry signs and chant.

It's sad that the only thing that motivates Americans to take to the streets is money, but there you have it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 10/01/2008

John McCain has had his wife bailing him out for years starting with his gambling depts,loaning him her plane to fly around in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 10/01/2008
- GLT21 I'm a Fan of GLT21 3 fans permalink
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I'll notify the local military recruiter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 10/01/2008
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 196 fans permalink
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Good One!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 10/01/2008
- LHoney I'm a Fan of LHoney 44 fans permalink
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Can't wait to hear this one on Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow's shows!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 10/01/2008
- sedum I'm a Fan of sedum 3 fans permalink
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Only the voting machines can beat Obama now.

They might !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 10/01/2008
- LeeCalif I'm a Fan of LeeCalif 83 fans permalink

Exactly !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 10/01/2008
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All the more reason for We The People to turn up in unprecedented numbers on election day.

Swamp the machines.

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 10/01/2008
- GLT21 I'm a Fan of GLT21 3 fans permalink
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Let them protest on TV,

then put them on the ARMY bus.

One-way ticket to Iraq.

Real patriots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 10/01/2008
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 196 fans permalink
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They are MONEYCHANGERS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 10/01/2008
- anthead I'm a Fan of anthead 10 fans permalink
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Round up all of the eligible children of the members of the "Vets for Freedom" and all the paid protesters and ship them straight to Paris Island.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 10/01/2008
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Agreed. My Dad dropped out of college right after Pearl Harbour and joined the US Marines. He was overseas after circa six weeks of emergency basic training, with a rifle stamped "1917" in his hands.

So if my Dad could abandon his dream of going to college (the first in his family to make it in to college!) to serve our country in time of war, what's wrong with these spoiled little puppies?

Oh, that's right... silly me! Like Mitt Romney's five sons, they have more important things to do...

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 10/01/2008
- WillCooney I'm a Fan of WillCooney 10 fans permalink
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You must see Max Blumenthal's coverage of a "Young Republicans Convention." The excuses for not joining the military come straight from Cheney, Bush et al. Wusses!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 10/01/2008
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Classic chickenhawk behavior from the offspring of chickenhawks. Eager to fight to the last drop of some inner-city kid's blood.

Hypocrisy, thy name remains GOP...

Leland R. Erickson

Citizen

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 10/01/2008
- Ozarks I'm a Fan of Ozarks 49 fans permalink
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Well Cheney can hold a seminar on how to write up Deferments, He got 5 of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 10/01/2008
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