Wave of House converts jump aboard bailout bill

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JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS | October 2, 2008 11:41 PM EST | AP

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House Financial Services Committee ranking Rep. Spencer Bachus, R-Ala, right, speaks during a news conference on the financial market turmoil on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, Oct. 2, 2008. He is joined with, from left, Rep. Thomas Latham, R-Iowa, and Rep. Steven LaTourette, R-Ohio, the other are unidentified. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)

WASHINGTON — A wave of House converts jumped aboard the $700 billion financial industry bailout Thursday on the eve of a make-or-break second vote, as lawmakers responded to an awakening among voters to the pain ahead of them if stability isn't restored to the tottering economy.

Black lawmakers said personal calls from Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama helped switch them from "no" to "yes." Republicans and Democrats alike said appeals from credit-starved small businessmen and the Senate's addition of $110 billion in tax breaks had persuaded them to drop their opposition.

"I hate it," but "inaction to me is a greater danger to our country than this bill," said GOP Rep. Zach Wamp of Tennessee, one of the 133 House Republicans who joined 95 Democrats in rejecting the measure Monday, sending the stock market plummeting.

Still, the outcome was far from assured. Vote-counters in both parties planned to huddle first thing Friday morning to compare notes on coming up with the dozen or so supporters needed to reverse the stunning defeat.

Lawmakers were agonizing as they decided whether to change course and back the largest government intervention in markets since the Great Depression. "I'm trying desperately to get to 'yes,'" said Rep. Carol Shea-Porter, D-N.H.

Fears about an economic downturn sent the Dow Jones industrials down nearly 350 points Thursday, three days after Monday's historic 778-point drop. The Federal Reserve reported record emergency lending to banks and investment firms, fresh evidence of the credit troubles squeezing the country

Obama and his Republican rival, John McCain, phoned reluctant lawmakers for their help. McCain, in Denver, predicted the bill would pass the House.

Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., told a closed-door meeting of House Democrats that he will support the bill after speaking with Obama about it. Other wavering lawmakers said Obama's entreaties had swayed them as well.

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Congressional leaders worked over wayward colleagues wherever they could find them.

Rep. Steny Hoyer, the second-ranking House Democrat, said there was a "good prospect" of approving the measure but stopped short of predicting passage _ or even promising a vote. Nonetheless, a vote was expected on Friday.

"I'm going to be pretty confident that we have sufficient votes to pass this before we put it on the floor," Hoyer said.

The top Republican vote-counter, Rep. Roy Blunt of Missouri, did predict the measure would be approved.

"A lot of people are watching," Bush pointed out _ as if lawmakers needed reminding _ and he argued from the White House that the huge rescue measure was the best chance to calm unnerved financial markets and ease the credit crunch. He was calling dozens of lawmakers, a spokesman said.

Minds were changing in both parties in favor of the much-maligned measure, which would let the government spend billions of dollars to buy bad mortgage-related securities and other devalued assets from troubled financial institutions. If the plan works, advocates say, that would allow frozen credit to begin flowing again and prevent a serious recession.

GOP Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida, said she was switching her "no" vote to a "yes" after the Senate added some $110 million in tax breaks and other sweeteners before approving the measure Wednesday night.

"Monday what we had was a bailout for Wall Street firms and not much relief for taxpayers and hard-hit families. Now we have an economic rescue package," Ros-Lehtinen told The Associated Press.

Republican Rep. Jim Ramstad of Minnesota also switched to "yes," partly because the Senate attached the bailout to legislation he spearheaded to give people with mental illnesses better health insurance coverage.

Rep. Gresham Barrett, R-S.C., also said he'd back it.

Democratic Rep. Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri was switching, too, said spokesman Danny Rotert, declaring, "America feels differently today than it did on Monday about this bill."

And Democratic Rep. Shelley Berkley of Nevada said she would back the bill after business leaders in her Las Vegas-area district made it clear how much it was needed. She said, "There isn't a segment of the population that hasn't been slammed and is not asking for some relief."

Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., said he was on the verge of voting "yes," based on conversations with Obama. "I've got a man who I'm hoping will be president who's saying that's he's going to do the very things that I want done," he said. "It makes me feel a lot better."

Rep. Bobby Rush, D-Ill., also said Obama was asking him to reconsider his vote. "I'm seriously listening," Rush said.

Emboldened by the feverish bidding for votes, other members of both parties were demanding substantial changes to the legislation before they would vote for it. A group of Republican opponents indicated they'd back it if the price tag were slashed to $250 billion and several special tax breaks added by the Senate _ including for children's archery bow makers, imported rum producers and racetrack owners _ were removed. Democrats wanted to add a way to pay for the bailout and more help for homeowners staring at foreclosure.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said no, such revisions were impossible because they would slow the measure's enactment and further shake markets.

"I don't think that any changes here will do what we need to do, which is right now to send a message of confidence to the markets that Congress will act," she said.

The Senate breathed new life into the measure Wednesday after the stinging House defeat, voting 74-25 to approve the bailout, with additions designed to appeal to key constituencies. Business lobbyists were also inundating Capitol Hill in a rush to win over wavering lawmakers in both parties.

The changes helped satisfy some Republican critics, but they angered conservative "Blue Dog" Democrats who are concerned about swelling the deficit. Still, Hoyer predicted the number of Democratic defectors "is going to be minimal."

In efforts to appease GOP opponents, the Senate added a provision to raise, from $100,000 to $250,000, the limit on federal deposit insurance.

House Republicans also cheered a decision by the Securities and Exchange Commission this week to ease rules that force companies to devalue assets on their balance sheets to reflect the price they can get on the market.

The developments Wednesday prompted one Republican, Rep. John Shadegg of Arizona, to say he would support the new bill.

Bush, meeting with business executives at the White House, said increasingly tight credit markets are not just hitting big banks in New York City but threatening the existence of small businesses across the country.

The modified Senate bill extends several tax breaks popular with businesses, provisions that are favorites for most Republicans. It would keep the alternative minimum tax from hitting 20 million middle-income Americans, which appeals to lawmakers in both parties. And it would provide $8 billion in tax relief for those hit by natural disasters in the Midwest, Texas and Louisiana.

Help for rural schools was aimed mainly at lawmakers in the West.

Another addition, to extend the deductibility of state and local taxes for people in states without income taxes, helps Florida and Texas, among others. Ros-Lehtinen singled it out as one reason she changed her mind.

Democratic leaders circulated data showing which states benefit most from an extension of a tax break for homeowners who do not itemize their tax returns. Texas, Florida, California and Pennsylvania ranked among the highest. The leaders hope the measure will bring support from black lawmakers, many of whom voted "no" earlier this week, among others.

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Associated Press writers Terence Hunt, Ben Feller, Matthew Daly, Alan Fram, Sam Hananel, Kimberly Hefling, Andrew Taylor and Erica Werner contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — A wave of House converts jumped aboard the $700 billion financial industry bailout Thursday on the eve of a make-or-break second vote, as lawmakers responded to an awakening among v...
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- dzent1 I'm a Fan of dzent1 81 fans permalink
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If they pass this bill, we will VOTE THEM OUT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 10/02/2008
- Troyxx I'm a Fan of Troyxx 11 fans permalink
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Of course it's fascism, but only Rove, Cheney, and their corrupt buddies know. Bush does not have a clue about anything because he's missing a whole lot of gray matter in his cranium. Poor Bush, he thinks money really does grow on trees.
Soon, the US of A will be but a memory because Bush, et al, have totally screwed the country. However, that's what happens when the loonies elect one of their own. What a freaking mess!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 10/02/2008

So President Bush and his Congressional enablers are determined to impose this deeply unpopular, highly controversial, unprecedented debt on this, and future generations, of taxpayers.

People have protested in tremendous numbers. Hundreds of economists have protested; not one reputable economist supports this. But the corporate-owned media insists to the people that "this must pass" without giving any evidence to support why, or reasoned argument as to what the results will be. ("Or else a depression will come!" is not reasoning.­)

That this is even still being pushed, after the level of public opposition its had, is testament to the power of "the market" (corporations) and the weakness of the public, in the States.

This is not socialism, and not "corporate socialism" or "corporate welfare" either. This is fascism: where the State is led by unelected private interests.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 10/02/2008

lakat your comment is right on the mark!
Bush wants this bill, don`t that scare anyone wanting this to go through.
I am strict when it comes to business, if you make bad decisions then you must pay for your own mistakes, how hard is this for people to fathom. Now if you believe the spin on this from the supporters that we will all go broke if not passed then you really need to get some common sense.

capitalism does not work in my book

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 10/02/2008

Did you catch Obama & McCain laughing and shaking hands last night? Then you just witnessed two of the Smartest Guys in the Room. Slick. Just like the Enron brokers who laughed and congratulated one another while destroying peoples lives.

Laughing and laughing and glad-handing as they ready to roll the wheelbarrow full of your money down to their criminal friends on Wall Street.

BTW Did you know it would cost about 150 billion dollars to bail out every single troubled mortgage in America? That's right. To get them right off the books.

Did you know...aw, never mind.

Okay, just one more thing. Today, Obama's financial advisor says they will need more than seven trillion. Buffet didn't put that 3 billion into GE's financial arm for nothing. We gotta pony up for that.

Take my wife, please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 10/02/2008
- thewho77 I'm a Fan of thewho77 2 fans permalink

FOR THE RECORD: Bush has been wrong EVERY TIME! Why would anything be different now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 10/02/2008
- lakat I'm a Fan of lakat 32 fans permalink

If Bush recommends it, dump it! If he says no, say yes. It works EVERY time!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 10/02/2008

This election season is FULL of do-overs:

H. Clinton's "conceding"
B. Clinton's "endorsement"

Now this

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 10/02/2008
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October 1 can be forever recorded as the day Money Talked and Principles Walked.
While the corporately owned news media shrieked "the sky is falling" and Wall Street and Administration hacks beat their breasts (with Hank Paulson literally dropping to his knees!) Democrats and Republicans alike were stampeded into yet another fiasco. As with the last rush to judgement which left us with the ugly problem of the Iraq war, this ill-conceived bill will haunt America and drag down its economy for years to come.
While the politicians earnestly debated the best way to distribute billions of dollars to poorly managed investment banks, the question of whether such a move was even prudent was left unasked and unanswered. The voices of economists from universities throughout the country, lacking the microphones of the mainstream media and the prized slots on the television talk shows, were a faint cry for reason and sanity lost in a cacophony of doomsday screeching. Many of those economists offered alternate ideas as well as predictions of how poorly the proposed bailout addressed the root causes of the problem. Even Michael Moore came up with a 10-point plan that addressed some of the economists' concerns.
Yesterday was a day, sadly, that showed Americans the lessons of the rush to the Iraq war have been completely lost on our elected officials. It is truly a faint hope that the House will perform any more rationally, but it is at least a hope.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 10/02/2008
- Dynamohum I'm a Fan of Dynamohum 59 fans permalink

Can't even get an email to my Congressman through the House website. I am beside myself. I believe that I will vote for anybody but Webb(senate) and Moran(house) next time. Someone in Webb's office told me yesterday that they figured that the public response was 13:1 against the bill.

I will ask Moran to vote NO, but I wouldn't stake anything important to me on him doing so. Spineless Congress. Maybe now people will understand why very few people vote. They do not listen to we the people at all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 10/02/2008

I would like to urge everyone in this blog to call their Congressional representative to back Rep. Peter DeFazio's (OR-04)No Bailout Bill. This bill has been on of the only rational approach to solving this issue while holding the institutions responsible accountable for their actions.

Simon Johnson, a former chief economist as the International Monetary Fund, stated today in the New York Times of Paulson’s plan, “It’s our view that this package, in a fundamental sense, will not solve the problem.” Other economic analysts noted yesterday that the credit markets around the world were almost entirely dysfunctional even when political leaders and investors assumed that Congress had reached a deal and would easily approve the bailout. There is no reason to believe Paulson’s plan will work.

Alternatives

DeFazio’s alternative is based on five simple principles suggested by William Isaac, the chairman of the FDIC during the previous worst financial crisis in the United States during the 1980s. Mr. Isaac believes Congress can address the current crisis with simple changes to Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) rules. Mr. Isaac points out that while we face serious financial challenges today, many banks are still in good shape. This proposal allows Congress to take swift, uncomplicated steps to ensure the financial markets return to working order. After that, we can work to resolve the housing crisis and pass effective job stimulus.

You can view the plan at this link:

http://www.defazio.house.gov/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=441

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 10/02/2008

Not so fast Bush!

The Senate version used too much artifical sweetner: Sweet and Low.

Give Congress a chance to add some milk and honey...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 10/02/2008
- terrymill I'm a Fan of terrymill 2 fans permalink

Let me get something straight. Republicans are suddenly getting fiscally conservative talking about out of control spending and lending when for the past 8 years the supported an administration that has continued to file budget deficits??? Now, suddenly, they are talking about socialism and the American people being financially responsible??? Give me a break.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 10/02/2008

I had to laugh at this. Although I guess it's no surprise that anything out of GWB's mouth should be considered hilarious.­..

Quoting George Bush: "...increa­singly tight credit is not only stopping small business expansion, but in some respects is threatening the very ability of small businesses to exist."

Um no. You saw to this yourself Mr. President Bush the moment you stepped into the Presidency. Perhaps you haven't noticed that the ONLY ones approved for big money and loans, and tax breaks and all sorts of loopholes - are your FRIENDS AND FAMILY!

No duh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 10/02/2008
- Housewife I'm a Fan of Housewife 25 fans permalink

Everyone, I mean everyone, should take and hour and watch Warren Buffet on Charlie Rose if you want to see what the smartest, most successful businesman of our time thinks about the bailout. He calls it an investment.
http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2008/10/01/1/an-exclusive-conversation-with-warren-buffett

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 10/02/2008
- huffnpuffn I'm a Fan of huffnpuffn 8 fans permalink

Warren Buffet is welcome to invest his own money in this crisis as he already has done. That's capitalism.

Warren Buffet is not welcome to the $2300 out of my pocket this $700 billion "investment" is going to cost me. That's socialism.

We don't foster innovation in this country by making the market free from failure. If you run a business into the ground, maybe you ought to let it die and start over, or get out of the way and let someone better qualified give it a shot. Turning instead to the government rewards weakness and sloth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 10/02/2008
- Housewife I'm a Fan of Housewife 25 fans permalink

You really should watch the video before you comment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 10/02/2008
- doctorkeys I'm a Fan of doctorkeys 7 fans permalink
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No one should listen to one word Warren Buffet says in this case. He is a corporate welfare queen who stands to make billions and billions of dollars in the handout. He is not an impartial observer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 10/02/2008

Right. And didn't he recently exceed Bill Gates as the richest man in America? Or was that the richest man in the whole world?

I guess we all forgot how vested he is in middle class America --- what with his recent move of hundreds of thousands of jobs oversees and all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 10/02/2008
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 84 fans permalink

Good Morning People,

Here's some news you won't find on HufPo - or anywhere else - but should...

I just got off the phone with the Democratic National Committee. I called to voice my displeasure (understatement) at the buyout and had a moment to chat about the numbers of calls and which way they are going.

Some here on HufPo have suggested a ratio of 200 calls rejecting the buyout to 1 for it.

...The ratio SHE said was; "I haven't taken a single call for the buyout - and haven't heard of one from my colleagues here either."

Well, then, "How many calls have you taken on this issue?" "I have no idea - it's been non-stop all week and every call is on the buyout." So, "How many calls do you think have been made [to the DNC] on this?" "um..." "Hundreds of thousands to millions, perhaps?" "Yes, easily, and I have no idea how many people haven't been able to get through - the phone system only tells me that there's already another waiting call from the moment I picked up yours."

...OK, so it's HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS TO MILLIONS AGAINST - to _Z_E_R_O_ .

Folks, BOTH parties are failing us, BIG TIME.

GET OUT THERE AND OVERLOAD THE PHONE SYSTEM AGAIN SEVERAL TIMES TODAY!.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 10/02/2008
- huffnpuffn I'm a Fan of huffnpuffn 8 fans permalink

When did we decide recession and economic contraction must not be allowed to be a natural part of the national economy?

When did we decide to eliminate risk?

When did we decide it's ok to take $2300 from every single man, woman and child in this country to cover the asses of people too foolish to recognize the danger of their actions?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 10/02/2008
- RTIII I'm a Fan of RTIII 84 fans permalink

Good point - it's a bit like the complete elimination of fire from our forests, now a hugely discredited strategy. ...Upset the natural balance and you instigate / incite / court disaster..­.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 10/02/2008
- doctorkeys I'm a Fan of doctorkeys 7 fans permalink
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The dirty secret of fractional reserve banking is that it results in boom and bust cycles. Fractional reserve banking is a pyramid scheme that must and will fall.

If we participate in tyranny by depositing money in banks, we are feeding the monster that is destroying us. Buying gold and silver coin (real money, the only money permitted by our constitution) will hasten the destruction of the pyramid scheme being propped up by the U.S. government. Divestment of Federal Reserve Notes (dollars) is a direct way we can refuse to participate in our own demise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 PM on 10/02/2008
- mjtaylor22 I'm a Fan of mjtaylor22 38 fans permalink
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CONTRACTION IS A NATURAL PART OF THE ECNONMY.
I DO BELIEVE THE CONCENTRATION SHOULD BE ON THE CONSUMENRS WHO HELD UP THIS FREAKING ECONOMY FOR THE LAST 8 YRS.
STOP FORECLOSURES NOW SO VALUES CAN STABILIZE, RENEGOTIATE MORTGAGES SO PEOPEL CAN STAY IN THEIR HOMES. LETS REBUILD THESE ROADS SO WORKERS AND ENGINEERS CAN GET JOBS, I MEAN IS IT THAT HARD TO SEE WORKING AMERICANS ARE BEING ROBBED EVERYDAY BY THESE SAME BANKS, BANKS HAVE BEEN FEEING US TO DEATH FOR 20 YRS, AND NOW THEY NEED OUR TAX DOLLARS TO DO WHAT WITH, HOW MANY OVERDRAFT FEE HAVE YOU PAID IN THE LAST TWO YEARS ALONE.....
WHAT DID THEY DO SMOKE UP ALL THAT MONEY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 10/02/2008
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