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CHARLES BABINGTON | October 4, 2008 09:28 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., speaks at a rally at Victory Landing Park in Newport News, Va., Saturday, Oct. 4, 2008. (AP Photo/Steve Helber)

NEWPORT NEWS, Va. — Democrat Barack Obama sharply criticized Republican John McCain's health care proposals Saturday, saying they could force millions of Americans to struggle to buy medical insurance.

Turning to an issue that has faded somewhat during the economic crisis, Obama gave an unusually detailed outline of his own plans in a 40-minute speech to thousands of sun-soaked Virginians at a waterside park in Newport News. He would make coverage more affordable to most Americans, he said, paying for the subsidies largely by canceling the Bush administration's tax cuts for people making more than $250,000 a year.

In a sign that the presidential campaign's final month may have a nastier tone, Obama called McCain's health plan "radical," and Republican officials accused Obama of lying.

Wearing a dark suit and speaking from a TelePrompTer, Obama told the Virginia crowd he would reduce premiums for most people by "as much as $2,500 per family."

He would save money in the health care system, he said, by holding drug and insurance companies "accountable for the prices they charge and the harm they cause." He also said he would outlaw "insurance company discrimination against people with pre-existing conditions."

Medicare would be allowed to negotiate with drug makers for cheaper prices, and his administration would place greater emphasis on preventing illnesses, he said.

"The time has come to solve this problem, to cut health care costs for families and businesses, and provide affordable, accessible health insurance for every American," Obama said.

He devoted at least half his speech to criticizing McCain. The Republican nominee has proposed to tax the health benefits that 156 million people get through the workplace as income. In exchange, McCain would give tax credits to help pay for insurance _ $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families, paid directly to the insurer they choose.

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The criticisms that Obama made here are echoed by his campaign in four new television ads, four separate mailers targeted to swing state voters, radio commercials and events in every battleground state.

"On health care, John McCain promises a tax credit," an announcer says in one of Obama's new ads, over images of families examining their bills. "But here's what he won't tell you: McCain would make you pay taxes on your health benefits, taxing your health care for the first time ever, raising costs for employers who offer health care so your coverage could be reduced or dropped completely. You won't find one word about it on his Web site."

It's true that McCain doesn't mention that he would tax health benefits on the section of his Web site where he describes his plan. But the Obama ad omits some important context _ the tax credit McCain plans to offer would be more generous than the current tax break, at least for most families for the first several years, according to an analysis by the Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan group.

However, the center also concluded that McCain's plan would increase the deficit by $1.3 trillion over 10 years. McCain disputes the center's analysis on that point.

Obama said Saturday that under McCain's plan, younger, healthier workers would buy cheaper insurance outside the workplace, leaving an older, sicker pool to drive up the cost of the employer-based system.

"As a result, many employers will drop their health care plans altogether," Obama said. "And study after study has shown, that under the McCain plan, at least 20 million Americans will lose the insurance they rely on from their workplace."

He called McCain's plan "so radical, so out of touch with what you're facing, and so out of line with our basic values."

Doug Holtz-Eakin, McCain's senior policy adviser, said the Republican's plan to offer a tax credit in exchange for taxing employer-paid health benefits would be a net plus for all but the most wealthy Americans.

An assessment by health care economists published last month in the journal Health Affairs projected that McCain's plan would lead 20 million people to lose their employer-sponsored insurance. But it also found that 21 million people would gain coverage through the individual market.

Republican National Committee spokesman Alex Conant responded: "Barack Obama is lying about John McCain's plan to provide more Americans with more health care choices. Obama's plan only offers more government, while McCain's plan offers more choices."

Obama's speech was more loaded with policy than most, and he seemed to realize that many in the crowd wanted a pep rally more than a detailed examination of health care practices.

"You still with me?" he said halfway through.

Lyndon Johnson was the last Democratic nominee to carry Virginia. But Obama is making an all-out push here, encouraged by growing numbers of Democratic voters in the Washington suburbs and the near-certainty that former Gov. Mark Warner will win the Senate seat being vacated by Republican John Warner.

Newport News, near Norfolk, is home to many military families, and McCain hopes to do well in the area.

Polls show Obama has taken a lead in the national race, fueled by voters' increasing confidence that he would be better equipped to handle the struggling economy. Campaign aides said they long planned to focus on economic issues in these final weeks of the race, but the debate over the government's $700 billion financial bailout focused voters on such concerns more than they could have imagined.

The push on health care is an opportunity to raise the debate on a pocketbook issue that voters rank near the top of their concerns. According to an AP-Yahoo News poll taken last month, 78 percent of voters rate health care as at least a very important issue, which puts it behind the economy in a group of second-tier issues along with Iraq and terrorism.

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Associated Press writer Nedra Pickler contributed to this report.

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On the Net:

Obama campaign: http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

McCain campaign: http://www.johnmccain.com/

NEWPORT NEWS, Va. — Democrat Barack Obama sharply criticized Republican John McCain's health care proposals Saturday, saying they could force millions of Americans to struggle to buy medical ins...
NEWPORT NEWS, Va. — Democrat Barack Obama sharply criticized Republican John McCain's health care proposals Saturday, saying they could force millions of Americans to struggle to buy medical ins...
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- Doofus I'm a Fan of Doofus 25 fans permalink
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New England Journal of Medicine on McCain's health plan...

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/NEJMp0806563

Primum Non Nocere — The McCain Plan for Health Insecurity
David Blumenthal, M.D., M.P.P.

The most important questions raised by the health care proposals of the presidential candidates concern their values and judgment. These will guide a new president through the tortuous, unpredictable process of leading health care change. The specifics of candidates' proposals matter. But more important is what health plans communicate about a prospective president's fundamental beliefs and character.

By this standard, John McCain emerges not as a maverick or centrist but as a radical social conservative firmly in the grip of the ideology that animates the domestic policies of President George W. Bush. The central purpose of President Bush's health policy, and John McCain's, is to reduce the role of insurance and make Americans pay a larger part of their health care bills out of pocket. Their embrace of market forces, fierce antagonism toward government, and determination to force individuals to have more "skin in the game" are overriding — all other goals are subsidiary. Indeed, the Republican commitment to market-oriented reforms is so strong that, to attain their vision, Bush and McCain seem willing to take huge risks with the efficiency, equity, and stability of our health care system. ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 10/05/2008
- Doofus I'm a Fan of Doofus 25 fans permalink
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Specifically, the McCain plan would profoundly threaten the current system of employer-sponsored insurance on which more than three fifths of Americans depend, increase reliance on unregulated individual insurance markets (which are notoriously inefficient), and leave the number of uninsured Americans virtually unchanged. A side effect of the McCain plan would be to threaten access to adequate insurance for millions of America's sickest citizens.

In 1954, President Dwight D. Eisenhower (a Republican) signed Internal Revenue Service regulations exempting from personal income taxation employers' contributions to the cost of their employees' health insurance.­1 The purpose was to encourage the growth of private insurance. Eisenhower's decision proved spectacularly effective: 160 million Americans now obtain private health insurance in the workplace.

Senator McCain would end the exemption from federal income tax for employer-sponsored insurance. One result is predictable: a reduction in the number of companies providing and subsidizing health insurance for their employees. Over the years, multiple studies have shown that as the tax benefit to employees of receiving employer-sponsored insurance declines, employers are less likely to offer it. On the basis of these studies, economists project that 10 million to 28 million of the 160 million Americans with employer-sponsored insurance will lose it as a result.2,3­,4 These newly uninsured Americans will enter the tumultuous individual insurance market. Many employers that continue to subsidize insurance will probably reduce their contributions, forcing employees to bear a larger portion of the costs. ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 10/05/2008

McSame doesn't tell you everything about his insurance scam! Sure, you can live in California and buy insurance from some company in Iowa. The only problem is that Iowas Insurance Department cannot help you if there is a problem. We would need a national insurance department. More government? McSame is more than willing to gamble with your health...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 10/04/2008

Is that Charles Keating warming up in the Obama bullpen?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 10/04/2008
- jusion I'm a Fan of jusion 4 fans permalink

Palin Attacks Obama:

There's been a lot of interest in what I read lately. Well, I was reading my copy of today’s New York Times and I was really interested to read about Barack’s friends from Chicago.

Turns out, one of his earliest supporters is a man who, according to The New York Times was a domestic terrorist and part of a group that, quote, ‘launched a campaign of bombings that would target the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol.’

These are the same guys who think patriotism is paying higher taxes. This is not a man who sees America as you and I do - as the greatest force for good in the world. This is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country. This, ladies and gentlemen, has nothing to do with the kind of change anyone can believe in - not my kids and not your kids.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 PM on 10/04/2008
- doogiedude I'm a Fan of doogiedude 8 fans permalink

"But the Obama ad omits some important context _ the tax credit McCain plans to offer would be more generous than the current tax break, at least for most families for the first several years, according to an analysis by the Tax Policy Center."

Even with the statement above being true, the problem is it would start us down a slippery slope.

A good example of this is the Alternative Minimum Tax which was orginally implemented to ensure the wealthy paid their fair share of taxes. Over time, the AMT has now become a huge middle class tax burden, and the wealthy are essentailly unaffected by it.

If this proposed policy were implemented, at first it may be a net benefit to the average American. Then, over time, it would become a mechanism for corporations to not pay adequate health care benefits.

Additionally, the tax credit being "more generous" implies to me more subsidising by the taxpayer of corporate expenses.

Just sayin

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 10/04/2008
- optech007 I'm a Fan of optech007 6 fans permalink

I trust Obama when he says this, he know something about radicals.(­Rev. Wright, Ayers, Fr. Phleger, Saul Alinsky, etc.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 10/04/2008
- RStone I'm a Fan of RStone 2 fans permalink

I know!

Obama offers the best alternative to no national health!

Bop McSame!

http://www.boppoll.com

Go Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 10/04/2008
- Matt7 I'm a Fan of Matt7 241 fans permalink

You think maybe America "came of age" via lock-stepping Stepford Wives?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 10/04/2008
- pmag88 I'm a Fan of pmag88 12 fans permalink

See the updated version of Michael Moore’s sicko. The additional material is almost another film in itself and it's very illuminating.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 10/04/2008

I find it humorous that McCain's campaign is so offended by Obama referring to McCain's plan as "radical" and later went on to refer to Obama as the radical one. Apparently they do not understand that MAVERICK is another name for RADICAL.
Every time McCain or Palin spout off about what Mavericks they are, they are saying over and over how Radical they are. Other synonyms include contentious, malcontent, extremist, aberrant . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 10/04/2008

You can not run health care as a profit driven business we are the one's that suffer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 10/04/2008
- Adnil I'm a Fan of Adnil 6 fans permalink

McCain's plan does not add up well for me.
I work for a nonprofit with a modest budget. The salaries aren't great but we have tried to compensate by providing health care benefits at 100% for employees (dependents can be added at the employees' expense). Currently we have 17 covered at $500 each... $8,500 a month ... $102, 000 a year. Taxing these benefits increases our payroll taxes (FICA and state unemployment premiums) by $8,000 which is not chump change for us.
For me personally:
annual take home reduced by increase tax - FICA by $459
gross taxable income increase by $8,500
individual tax credit under plan* $2,500
increase to adjusted taxable income by $6,000
*do you still get the tax credit if you don't itemize? Silly me I own my own modest house, kid all grown up, and never have enough deductions to do anything but file the ez form.
Just for giggles, I put that additional $6,000 into my tax figures for 2007 and lucky me, it would have forced me into the next tax bracket from 15% to 25%. Yippee!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 10/04/2008
- mskayty I'm a Fan of mskayty 5 fans permalink
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My husband and I just returned from the rally. Supposedly the gates opened at 10:30a.m. Tell me why at approximately 10:35, two young Newport News police officers on bicycles rode up to us and stated, "The venue is full. They aren't letting anyone else in, you might as well turn back." We chose to ignore them and went on about our buisness. Eventually, we found our way into the rally and waited another hour and a half for Barack Obama to arrive. It was well worth the wait!

In short...th­e republicans on all levels are "trying it." There were some folks who were discouraged enough to actually turn back and go back to their cars. I wasn't. I was born a year to the day after the march on Washington. I CHERISH my right to assemble as well as to vote for the candidate of my choice, because as a African American..­.IT WAS HARD WON.

Go to the polls on November 4th. If you have to crawl...Go­....VOTE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 10/04/2008
- kjwhite I'm a Fan of kjwhite 45 fans permalink
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I love your story. Good for you that you kept on going. I think we are going to see a LOT of this sneaky stuff over the next month. Especially the day the polls open. I wonder how many people will be turned away from voting over some newly-invented "rule" here and there. Funny how those things always seem to happen where democrats live.

I saw something recently about one place that didn't let people vote because their address on their voting record had to match the address on their drivers license?(since when?) That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Some number-cruncher for the republicans figured out lower-income therefore probably democratic voters are often likely to move at least once in 4 years, so it would be an easy trick to keep democrats from getting their votes counted.

With all the shadiness we've seen McCain pull so far, you can bet he has arranged for some nonsense on Nov. 4th. I think he was behind the recent mass-mailings of those "terrorist" DVD's too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 10/04/2008
- Ofactor I'm a Fan of Ofactor 7 fans permalink

I think he was behind those terrorist DVD's as well. I wrote on mine in big black marker... I am not afraid...I am a democrat and I am voting for Obama ....return to sender.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 10/05/2008
- mskayty I'm a Fan of mskayty 5 fans permalink
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*waving*
Hi KJ...I'm also wondering what kind of dirty election day tactics the repugs will pull. All I know is that they will definately "try it." I had such a "weird" feeling about the two cops on bicycles that informed us that the venue would be closed and to turn back. Thank God we're hard headed as we are, because we would have missed a truly wonderful day.
Good grief...wh­at "terrorist" DVD'S?! I haven't heard about that, but wouldn't put it past McCain with his ancient, shady behind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 10/05/2008
- SCVADem I'm a Fan of SCVADem 15 fans permalink
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I was there, too! They opened the doors around 10:10... my kids were up towards the beginning of the line and got in WAY before me. 18,000 showed up! I spoke to someone with the city afterwards and he said, at the time, he didn't know the estimate, but it was a LOT more than the police and EMS anticipated!!

An older gentleman collapsed near us because of the heat and we had to start chanting "9-1-1" to get the media stand's attention. It was amazing to hear everyone coming together to get the man some medical attention.

And I loved "That ain't right!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 10/04/2008
- mskayty I'm a Fan of mskayty 5 fans permalink
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I loved the "that ain't right" too!
The whole thing was just wonderful. It was a gorgeous October day, but my husband and I did not expect it to be so hot! We also wished there was more water provided inside the park. There were long lines for water being served out of a large water cooler. After a while, we observed they had run out of cups and people were drinking directly from the tap. Now, THAT AIN'T RIGHT!LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 10/05/2008

ha!
They don't believe in a big government!
They want it plenty big, big enough when it does what they want:
Like:
a start wars
b-bail-out wallstreet
c-wire-tap the inocent
d-ignore dissent
e- all of the above(sorry, this option is for sarah palin, it saves a whole load of words)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 10/04/2008

Another lie that needs to be confronted is that Republicans care about Veterans.

My Mom a WWII Navy nurse spent her last years in a Veteran's Home. I get emotional thinking about the loving and generous care the folks at the Bristol RI Veteran's Home provided my Mom and our family. BUT, the FEDERAL government cut back her disability payments from $840.00/mo­nth the first year she was there, to less than $150/month when she passed away four years later. Basically, the feds said to the state , "she's your problem, take care of it." Yeah, these are the lovely compassionate conservatives that look out for the military. I did not serve, but I know one thing for sure....No­t one single veteran should EVER have to worry about healthcare, or the cost of getting an education. It is the very least a thank nation should provide. (700 billion for Wall St?)

On a different note, if there is a VA facility near you, go and volunteer. My wife & I did. It made a big difference in our lives and I believe the little we did brought some relief to others. Go help feed a patient, push a wheel chair, give a nurse a break, light a cig for one who can't, sit and listen, have some laughs, some cries, give some hugs , get some hugs, just spend some time there. Our best holidays were spent there helping out, if only for a few hours.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 10/04/2008
- kjwhite I'm a Fan of kjwhite 45 fans permalink
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sonoffestus - see....you are what's good about America.

I get tired of John McCain saying he is some great friend to our vets. HE IS NOT. I challenge anyone to take a look at what the VIET Nam vets had to say about him...the great war hero. As for our soldiers now, he talks the talk, but doesn't walk it. I know parents that had to send their kids bullet proof vests in Iraq, paying the cost themselves because McCain didn't think we should supply them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 10/04/2008
- Matt7 I'm a Fan of Matt7 241 fans permalink

God bless you. And thanks for putting out the call. I think after this campaign, more people will be inspired to find the grace, joy and reward of volunteering and becoming involved in the lives of those around them. Sometimes the smallest thing can mean so much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 10/04/2008

Neocon surgery-

You must have this operation for the good of your health.
IF you refuse you are against your own health in which case you can have no voice in the procedure and therefore we will have to make the decision for you.

Don't worry the neocons promise they are doing it for our own good!

Hey that's all they needed to say....LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 10/04/2008
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