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JOE BEL BRUNO and TIM PARADIS | October 6, 2008 08:26 PM EST | AP

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Trader John Santiago leans on a phone post on the New York Stock Exchange floor, Monday Oct. 6, 2008. Wall Street suffered through another extraordinary and traumatic session Monday, with the Dow Jones industrials plunging as much as 800 points _ their largest one-day point drop _ before recovering to close with a loss of 370. (AP Photo/Richard Drew)

NEW YORK — Wall Street joined in a worldwide cascade of despair Monday over the financial crisis, driving the Dow Jones industrials to their biggest loss ever during a trading day. Even a big afternoon rally failed to keep the Dow from its first close below 10,000 since 2004.

The sell-off came despite the $700 billion U.S. government bailout package, which was signed into law Friday after two weeks in which traders had appeared to count on the rescue as their only hope to avoid a market meltdown.

At its worst point, the Dow was down more than 800 points, an intraday record. The stock market rallied during the final 90 minutes of the trading day, and the Dow finished down about 370 points at 9,955.50.

The average is down almost 30 percent from its all-time high of 14,164.53, set a year ago Thursday.

Speculation among traders late in the session that the market's pullback had been severe enough to force the Federal Reserve into taking other steps to soothe the markets helped stocks rebound from their lows.

"If you can't say that we're oversold now I don't know what you say. You're at least due for a bounce if nothing else," said Bill Stone, chief investment strategist for PNC Wealth Management.

The global plunge in stocks was under way well before Wall Street ever woke up. In Japan, the Nikkei average lost more than 4 percent. And then the losses spread across Europe _ nearly 6 percent for the FTSE-100 in Britain, 7 percent for the German DAX and more than 9 percent for France's CAC-40.

In the United States, President Bush twice made unscheduled remarks on the economy, saying in Cincinnati that the economy would be "just fine" but that the bailout package needed time to work.

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The troubles that started with an overheated housing market in the U.S. have infected financial markets around the world, making banks fearful of lending to other banks, let alone to businesses and consumers. That has led to worries that economies around the world might not only sputter but slide into reverse.

The crush of selling Monday came exactly one week after the Dow lost 778 points, its biggest closing loss in terms of points. On that day, the House voted down an earlier bailout package that had appeared to be a safe bet to pass.

The swings in the Dow on Monday also marked the beginning a fourth week of tumult in the markets. Triple-digit Dow swings have been commonplace since mid-September, when investment house Lehman Brothers went bankrupt and the government stepped in to bail out insurer American International Group.

But even with the bailout package firmly in place _ a plan under which the federal government will buy bad mortgage-related assets off the books of banks _ investors remain worried that banks are too fearful to lend and are cutting off air to the economy.

Over the weekend, governments across Europe rushed to prop up failing banks, while the governments of Germany, Ireland and Greece also said they would guarantee bank deposits. U.S. investors appeared worried the bailout would not be enough to jump-start the economy. Even other steps, including a Federal Reserve decision to expand a loan program to squeezed banks, didn't help much.

The sharp one-day tumbles over the last two Mondays don't come close to the drops that became black marks on the timeline of Wall Street history. Black Monday, in October 1987, and stock drops that preceded the Great Depression were more than 20 percent. Monday's drop, by comparisons, was less than 8 percent at its worst.

For the day, the Dow lost 3.6 percent. The selling was broad: Little more than 200 stocks finished the day higher on the New York Stock Exchange, while about 3,000 finished lower.

At its lowest point Monday, the Dow was down 800.06, at 9,525.32. The benchmark average dipped below 10,000 for the first time since Oct. 29, 2004, and closed there despite the afternoon rally.

The market's paper loss at the day's lows came to $1.1 trillion, as measured by the Dow Jones Wilshire 5000 Composite Index, which tracks 5,000 U.S.-based companies' stocks. That compares with a loss of about $1.5 trillion last week; that was the worst weekly return since the week after trading resumed following the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

As an indication of how fearful investors still are, government-backed debt was in high demand. The yield on the three-month Treasury bill, which moves in the opposite direction as its price, fell to 0.49 percent from late Friday at 0.50 percent. Investors are willing to accept low returns to have their money in a secure place.

Investors also moved into longer-term Treasury bonds as they fled the stock market. The yield on the 10-year note fell to 3.45 percent from 3.60 percent late Friday.

Broader indexes also plunged. The Standard & Poor's 500 index shed 42.34, or 3.85 percent, to 1,056.89; and the Nasdaq composite index fell 84.43, or 4.34 percent, to 1,862.96. The Russell 2000 index of smaller companies dropped 23.49, or 3.79 percent, to 595.91.

Consolidated volume on the NYSE reflected the frantic pace of the day's trading: 7.81 billion shares changed hands, up from Friday's 6.52 billion.

The market "is displaying one of its worst traits with a herd mentality, and investors have an appetite for feeding on fear," said Anthony Sabino, a professor of law and business at St. John's University.

But he cautioned it was still not a nightmare scenario.

"Most certainly, this is not the Great Depression of the 1930s, but (is like) the savings and loan crisis of the 1980s _ and we bailed them out," he said. "Once people catch their breath, they'll see this is the proper analogy and this will breathe life back into banking institutions."

NEW YORK — Wall Street joined in a worldwide cascade of despair Monday over the financial crisis, driving the Dow Jones industrials to their biggest loss ever during a trading day. Even a big af...
NEW YORK — Wall Street joined in a worldwide cascade of despair Monday over the financial crisis, driving the Dow Jones industrials to their biggest loss ever during a trading day. Even a big af...
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- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 317 fans permalink
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Tony Cherniawski of The Practical Investor newsletter, said - quote:

"JP Morgan paid US$1.9 billion for WaMu's [Washington Mutual] deposits and real estate. It got the questionable $307 billion portfolio at no cost. In addition, it received $31 billion in tax losses for which it paid nothing. What a deal! At a corporate tax rate of 35%, JPM instantly made $10.85 billion in tax write-offs alone. Economically, JP Morgan expects the takeover to add earnings of 50 cents per share in 2009."

While your 401(k) is bleeding dry, actually, somebody else right NOW just doesn't know where to stuff his freshly-fetched money.

From "Predator-­Capitalism­" to "Scavenger­-Capitalis­m" in a snap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 10/06/2008

JP Morgan is following the advice of its founder, who made his fortune during the Depression: "Buy when there's blood on the floor."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 10/06/2008
- ricitizen I'm a Fan of ricitizen 17 fans permalink
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Oh spit! http://pollster.com/ just flipped their electoral map to 275 Obama, 163 McCain 115 Toss-up. And the toss-ups are VA, OH, FL, MI, IN, CO, NV and NH. Therefore they have him winning right now, even without VA, OH, FL! Wow!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 10/06/2008

W00t!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 10/06/2008
- ZsaZsa I'm a Fan of ZsaZsa 41 fans permalink

And Michigan won't be a toss-up for long.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 10/06/2008
- ZHarris I'm a Fan of ZHarris 48 fans permalink
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MICHIGAN ISN'T A TOSS-UP! IT'S BLUE!

did I shout that?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 10/06/2008
- ricitizen I'm a Fan of ricitizen 17 fans permalink
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My mistake. The numbers don't add up. Most have been a cliche on their site.

http://pollster.com/ electoral map to 260 Obama, 163 McCain 115 Toss-up. And the toss-ups are VA, OH, FL, MO, IN, CO, NV, NC and NH.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 10/06/2008
- uclafan I'm a Fan of uclafan 16 fans permalink
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Hmmm...fir­st LA Times questions McCain's judgement in the Navy and now the Washington Post catches him in a lie...

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/10/mccain_fudges_his_navy_record.html


How long until evidence of PTSD emerges?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 10/06/2008

Maybe that's the October Surprise they keep telling us about?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 10/06/2008
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No one person running for president has personally cost the tax payers millions of dollars in aircraft and training and savings and loans failures as John Sidney McCain III.

I want my money back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 10/06/2008

Oct 6 Polling Update.
http://voteforamerica.net/editorials/Comments.aspx?ArticleId=91&ArticleName=Poll+Update

Checkout my piece on Youth Voter Registration. For every 100 registered voters aged 18-24, the democrats accrue a 9 vote advantage.
http://voteforamerica.net/editorials/Comments.aspx?ArticleId=85&ArticleName=Youth+Vote%3a+The+Power+of+Registration

Obama 355, McCain 183
http://voteforamerica.net/electoral.aspx

Will McCain Re-suspend his Campaign?
http://voteforamerica.net/editorials/Comments.aspx?ArticleId=80&ArticleName=Will+McCain+Re-suspend+his+Campaign%3f

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:36 PM on 10/06/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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Flag the blogpimp - DON'T CLICK ON HIS LINKS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 10/06/2008
- ZHarris I'm a Fan of ZHarris 48 fans permalink
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but, but... don't you want to vote for America? ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 10/06/2008
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I want the $850 billion back.

Dennis Kucinich said this bill was immoral. Congresswoman Nancy Boyda of Kansas knew it was a bad bill. Throw the bums out who voted for this. I am extremely disappointed that Obama supported it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 10/06/2008
- KitWit I'm a Fan of KitWit 2 fans permalink

Americans' problem is that we refuse to look ahead.
Even now, in the crisis, we have people ready to vote for McCain, and allow another tragedy to befall us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 10/06/2008

Is a reformed 60s radical really tlat important? McCain is saying right now do we know who Obama is? McCain sounds desperate and rotten.Is one reformed 60s radical really so important, while people are losing everything? McCain is saying right now,” do we know who the real Obama is”, what are implying John? McCain sounds beyond desperate. He will do anything to win. There is a lot of dirt in McCain’s long resume and in Palin’s background to, time to use it, crush them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 10/06/2008
- mrsmdressup I'm a Fan of mrsmdressup 359 fans permalink
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They are bringing the Wright issue back into play. Let's see how well that works for them. HA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 10/06/2008
- ZsaZsa I'm a Fan of ZsaZsa 41 fans permalink

Well, I sure as sh-t know who Johnny McSellout is, and I don't want him anywhere near the White House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 10/06/2008

Actually, now America has had a chance to see who Obama is: a rational, level-headed man. If anyone is the bomb-thrower (or hail-mary-thrower), it's McCain. If there's anybody we really don't know, it's Johnnie Mac.

He doesn't get that the entire country is feeling this crisis: can't buy or sell because our credit ratings are suddenly not good enough, foreclosed houses in our neighborhoods; relatives doubling up. My husband's friend may be sleeping on our couch a lot until he finds a furnished room: he just took a job three hours from his house, which he needs to sell. His grown step-children have just moved in with him. They have low-paying, dead-end jobs but can't seem to find anything else.

It's a complete mess. And this is on that elite East Coast that Sarah doesn't think is part of America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 10/06/2008
- ZsaZsa I'm a Fan of ZsaZsa 41 fans permalink

If only O had agreed to those town-hall meetings, none of this would have ever happened. Sheesh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 10/06/2008
- Chillinout I'm a Fan of Chillinout 125 fans permalink
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And the Dow would still be above 10,000. It is ALL Obama's fault, dontcha know?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 10/06/2008

The fundamentals of our economy are strong.
The fundamentals of our economy are.
The fundamentals of our economy.
The fundamentals of our.
The fundamentals of.
The fundamentals.
The.

CRASH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 10/06/2008
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"As recently as September of last year he said that subprime loans had been, quote, "a good idea." Well, Senator Obama, that "good idea" has now plunged this country into the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression­."
Dear Mcbush, Sub-prime loans and Fannie and Freddie are NOT what caused this economic catastrophe! It was the lack of REGULATION for all levels of investment banking (including sub-prime loans) that plunged this country into the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression! And who was it that claims that he has always been a "deregulator"? (BTW, what ever happened to "our economic foundations are sound.") Your stated premise is wrong, your argument is wrong, your facts are wrong and YOU are wrong for POTUS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 10/06/2008

The lion's share of the blame should go to McCain's buddy, Phil Gramm.

"Gramm's piece de resistance came on Dec. 15, 2000, when he slipped into an omnibus spending bill a provision called the Commodity Futures Modernization Act (CFMA), which prohibited any governmental regulation of credit default swaps, those insurance policies covering losses on securities in the event they went belly up. As the housing bubble ballooned, the face value of those swaps rose to a tidy $62 trillion. And as the housing bubble burst, those swaps became a massive pile of worthless paper, because no government agency had required the banks to set aside money to back them up.

The CFMA also prohibited government regulation of the energy-trading market, which enabled Enron to nearly bankrupt the state of California before bankrupting itself.

The problem with this exercise, of course, is that Gramm's relationship to McCain is not comparable to the relationships that Ayers or Wright have with Obama. The idea that either Ayers or Wright would have any impact on the workings of an Obama administration is nonsensical. But Gramm and McCain do have an enduring political and economic alliance."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/05/AR2008100501816.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 10/06/2008
- revko I'm a Fan of revko 2 fans permalink

it's a maverick market

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 10/06/2008

Yup, yup, you betcha.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 10/06/2008
- evekendall I'm a Fan of evekendall 124 fans permalink
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Phil Gramm, McCain's financial guru, is one of the key players responsible for the sub-prime mortgage crisis and financial markets mess.

1) Terri Gross's interview with Prof. Michael Greenberger on April 3, 2008. Topic: "The Shadow Financial System," and Gramm's role in it.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89338743

2) "Phil Gramm, Bill Clinton, and the Sub-Prime Financial Mess":
Quote: "Furthermore, according to the Wiki article on Gramm, the bill created the “Enron exemption” that deregulated energy markets. Gramm’s wife, Wendy, wrote that part of the bill and Gramm pushed it through the legislative “grinder” to final passage. Wendy was later appointed to a directorship at Enron. This legislation led, in part, to the Enron debacle and thousands of Enron employees losing their jobs and pensions. Phil Gramm is now advising John McCain and has been suggested as a potential running mate (ibid)."
http://blog.sustainablemiddleclass.com/?tag=phil-gramm

3) "McCain Econ Adviser Sold Bizarre 'Death Bonds' "
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/01/mccain-econ-adviser-sold_n_104541.html

4) Keith Olbermann on June 18, 2008 re Gramm's role:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#25252591

5) "Foreclosure Phil" by David Corn, Mother Jones on May 28, 2008:
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/07/foreclosure-phil.html

6) "McCain Adviser Phil Gramm in the News Again. . ."
http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/06/8627_mccain_adviser.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 10/06/2008
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 317 fans permalink
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Thanks for the list. There's simply so much f.i.l.t.h to remember in this matter already, hat one is likely to lose oversight, without a proper list.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 10/06/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Keep this handy!

Good post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 10/06/2008
- evekendall I'm a Fan of evekendall 124 fans permalink
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You are welcome to copy this and send it to everyone you know. Include the news media, too. Email it to the major news networks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 10/06/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Yeah, we'll click on that tr0ll link...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:34 PM on 10/06/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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That's great! LOL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 10/06/2008
- Coinyer101 I'm a Fan of Coinyer101 651 fans permalink
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JM: "how 'bout that stock mrkt? hhehhh?! HHEHHH?!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 10/06/2008
- mrsmdressup I'm a Fan of mrsmdressup 359 fans permalink
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more like Hnnnneh Hnnnnneh Hnnnnneh *nauseous just typing that*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 10/06/2008

Now, using his SECURE pensions and wife's millions, he can buy low. What a guy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:38 PM on 10/06/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 10/06/2008
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 374 fans permalink
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Tiff - I don't know if you saw my post to you about McCrabby's remarks about O being angry and touchy reminded me of a bit of a humorous Franken remark last night in a senate debate - but here's a clip.

http://blip.tv/file/1326746

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 10/06/2008
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Thanks, Homie.

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