Guantanamo Chinese Muslims Must Be Released Into US, Judge Says

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HOPE YEN | October 7, 2008 06:12 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — A federal judge ordered the Bush administration Tuesday to immediately free 17 Chinese Muslims from Guantanamo Bay into the United States, a dramatic ruling that could set the course for releasing dozens of other prisoners at the naval facility in Cuba.

The Bush administration announced plans to ask an appeals court to block the order, calling it a threat to national security and contrary to federal laws.

"Today's ruling presents serious national security and separation of powers concerns and raises unprecedented legal issues," Justice Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse.

In a stern rebuke of the government, U.S. District Judge Ricardo M. Urbina said it would be wrong to continue holding the detainees since they are no longer considered enemy combatants. Known as Uighurs (pronounced WEE'-gurz), the men have been in custody for nearly seven years.

Over the objections of government lawyers, Urbina ordered their release in Washington D.C. by Friday. It was the first court-ordered release of Guantanamo detainees since the prison camp opened in 2002.

"Because the Constitution prohibits indefinite detentions without cause, the continued detention is unlawful," Urbina said, prompting cheers and applause from local Uighur residents and human rights activists who packed into the courtroom.

Urbina, who was appointed to the bench by President Clinton, also ordered a hearing next week to decide where the Uighurs should be permanently settled. Until then, members of the Uighur community in the Washington area agreed to sponsor and help care for them.

"I think the moment has arrived for the court to shine the light of constitutionality on the reasons for the detention," he said.

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Urbina said once the detainees arrived in Washington, they would be free to move around unsupervised, drawing the surprise of government attorneys who suggested that immigration officials might act to take the men into custody upon their arrival.

That prompted an angry response from the judge, who said he would not "take kindly" to such a government move. "That would be inappropriate," Urbina said. "There is a pressing need to have these people, who have been incarcerated for seven years, to have those conditions changed."

Roehrkasse said the government's appeal of Urbina's ruling was prompted by security concerns over the weapons training the Uighurs received at camps in Afghanistan. "The government does not believe that it is appropriate to have these foreign nationals removed from government custody and released into the United States," Roehrkasse said.

At the White House, press secretary Dana Perino said the decision "is contrary to our laws, including federal immigration statutes passed by Congress."

Perino said if Urbina's ruling is not reversed, it "could be used as precedent for other detainees at Guantanamo Bay, including sworn enemies of the United States suspected of planning the attacks" of Sept. 11, 2001, to seek release into the U.S.

At issue is whether a federal judge has the authority to order the release of Guantanamo prisoners who were unlawfully detained by the U.S. and cannot be sent back to their homeland. The Uighurs, who are Turkic-speaking Muslims in western China, have been cleared for release from Guantanamo since 2004 and ordinarily would have been sent home.

Wang Baodong, spokesman for the Chinese Embassy in Washington, reiterated Beijing's argument that the Uighurs are terror suspects and should be returned to China. "We ask the U.S. side to take into serious consideration of the repeated requests of the Chinese side, and handle the issue in a prudent way so as not to further harm their bilateral cooperation on combating international terrorism," Wang said.

The Bush administration has refused to turn the Uighurs over to China because they might be tortured. The Bush administration says it has found no other country is willing to accept them. Albania accepted five Uighur detainees in 2006 but has since balked on taking others, partly for fear of diplomatic repercussions from China.

Uighurs are from Xinjiang _ an isolated region that borders Afghanistan, Pakistan and six Central Asian nations _ and say they have been repressed by the Chinese government. China has long said that insurgents are leading an Islamic separatist movement in Xinjiang. The Uighur detainees were captured in Pakistan and Afghanistan in 2001.

Urbina's decision has broader implications for the future of the Guantanamo prison, which the Bush administration has said it wants to shut down after "working with other countries to take people back under the right circumstances."

A federal judge is set later this month to hold hearings on other Guantanamo prisoners challenging their detention as so-called enemy combatants.

Roughly 20 percent of about 250 detainees who remain at the military prison fear torture or persecution if they return to their home countries, according to the New York-based Center for Constitutional Rights. Their concerns raise similar questions as to where they should go if other countries refuse to take them. The U.S. has long maintained they should stay at Guantanamo.

"How many times does the Bush administration need to be told that detainees are entitled to essential rights? All the remaining detainees in Guantanamo Bay must be either charged and tried or released immediately," said Larry Cox, executive director of Amnesty International USA.

The Bush administration has argued that a federal judge cannot order the release of a foreign-born detainee into the U.S., saying that would undercut immigration laws that dictate how foreigners are brought into the country.

Until a country accepts the Uighurs, they would stay in special Guantanamo housing that includes TVs, air-conditioning and recreational items such as soccer, table tennis and volleyball, government attorneys said.

O'Quinn also said federal judges should defer to the executive branch officials, who he said must consider delicate relations with China. "The court should be circumspect because of the potential for interference with foreign relations," O'Quinn said.

Sabin Willett, an attorney for the Uighurs, countered: "I've never heard anyone argue our relations with other nations are a basis for holding someone."

Rebia Kadeer, president of the World Uighur Congress, called the decision a victory for oppressed Uighurs in China.

"This is our destiny. This is our people's win. This concerns our freedom. China accuses us of being terrorists, but we are not," she said through a translator as other Uighurs in the courtroom cried for joy.

Emi MacLean, an attorney with the Center for Constitutional Rights, said she hoped the decision would encourage other foreign countries to take in Guantanamo detainees who have not been charged.

"Finally, we are beginning the process of taking responsibility for our mistakes and fixing them," she said. "Allowing these wrongfully detained men a fresh start would also provide the U.S. a fresh start _ an opportunity to turn a page and finally take a position of leadership in closing Guantanamo."

WASHINGTON — A federal judge ordered the Bush administration Tuesday to immediately free 17 Chinese Muslims from Guantanamo Bay into the United States, a dramatic ruling that could set the cours...
WASHINGTON — A federal judge ordered the Bush administration Tuesday to immediately free 17 Chinese Muslims from Guantanamo Bay into the United States, a dramatic ruling that could set the cours...
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And I know just the house in Crawford, Texas where they should be placed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 10/22/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 159 fans permalink

Bush engages in some deceptive circular reasoning here. He refused to turn the Uighurs over to China because they might be tortured so he keeps them in custody in Quantanamo Bay where they are tortured through isolation and inactivity. Typically of Bush, he wants to incarcerate them endlessly so they will not be tortured upon release in China. The court in the waning days of the Bush administration is finally reasserting its authority and the rule of law in America. Thank goodness for the wisdom of our forefathers for creating an independent judiciary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 10/07/2008
- topkatnc I'm a Fan of topkatnc 33 fans permalink
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KINDA LIKE O J SIMPSON!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 10/07/2008

These guys are George Bush's human toys. He wont give them up for some stupid judge. George Bush has PROVED time and again that the law does not apply to him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 10/07/2008
- Amalek I'm a Fan of Amalek 127 fans permalink
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Uigher food is quite good. Hopefully they will open a restaurant in my hometown.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 10/07/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 159 fans permalink

Yes, I'd like to try it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 10/07/2008

a geez

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 10/07/2008
- gcallaghan I'm a Fan of gcallaghan 52 fans permalink
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Another chapter in UU's legacy writes itself - call this one Dismal Failure part 2917, coincidentally his numbers of days in office. Only 105 days left.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 10/07/2008
- DMcD I'm a Fan of DMcD 11 fans permalink
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O.K. Bush; Like Ollie said: "Isn't this a fine mess you've gotten us into" ------ you unjustly imprison & mis-treat people for years on end , and then have to let them go on the streets of America. I hope they make their home in Crawford TX. Heck-of-a-Job !!

Reap what you sew (sp?)
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 10/07/2008

They've been holding CHINESE MUSLIMS at Guantanamo all this time? Had they done anything wrong?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:06 PM on 10/07/2008
- Adriana231 I'm a Fan of Adriana231 3 fans permalink

probably not. According to other news reports, at least 80% of the people we are holding in GITMO were just rounded up in sweeps when we took Afghanistan after 9/11. A few are bad guys that are guilty. Most were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 10/07/2008

Many were turned in by bounty hunters for $5000 a head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 10/07/2008
- cdub1991 I'm a Fan of cdub1991 58 fans permalink

Ahhh, the irony...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 10/07/2008
- WmC I'm a Fan of WmC 16 fans permalink

Check out "Taxi to the Dark Side" trailer is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX0MPcN08Zc

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 10/07/2008
- dbdzen I'm a Fan of dbdzen 21 fans permalink

For a country with English as a first language, following the details of a story seems remarkably difficult for most people:

1. These people were arrested and flown to Guantanamo as suspected terrorists.

2. The US government later determined (4 years ago) that they were not terrorists/members of Al Qaeda.

3. The US government has been holding them ever since, against their will, because it fears they will be tortured if they return to their home country.

4. Their home country wants them back.

5. The rules are simple, if you are innocent of crimes against Americans and the US government wont let you go home, it must let you live here freely.

6. The judge looked at the cognitive dissonance of the Government's lawyers and just ruled as he saw it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 10/07/2008

Sorry, but the problem you cite is not usually a matter of people being unable to follow the details, rather it is a quick response to the HEADLINE. And maybe a SKIMMING of the first paragraph.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 PM on 10/07/2008

Can you cite the rules you mention in #5, please. I'm unaware of any immigration rules that require this.
Semper fi

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 10/07/2008
- NPA I'm a Fan of NPA 5 fans permalink
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The Chinese have Muslims? Small world didn't know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 10/07/2008
- munki I'm a Fan of munki 35 fans permalink
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all kinds... it is not a small country... Eastern Coastal to West... neighboring India, Nepal, Vietnam all the way to Middle Eastern countries... Yes... it is not small...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_China

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 10/07/2008
- piul05 I'm a Fan of piul05 58 fans permalink
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Some 30,0000,000 to be exact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 10/07/2008
- piul05 I'm a Fan of piul05 58 fans permalink
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And I would suggest to all who will be watching the debate tonight to have a look at the beautiful complexities of the world we live in. This is an article on wikipedia about Muslims in China and surrounding regions; I would draw attention to the two girls - one, Russian looking, the other your classic Asian girl. Both Chinese and both Muslims.

There's a fascinating world out there - don't let fearmongers such as McCain and Palin prevent you from discovering it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_people

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:23 PM on 10/07/2008
- daddydamon I'm a Fan of daddydamon 3 fans permalink

They have millions of muslims. The main region they're from is called Xinjiang, or New Frontier in Mandarin. Their food is excellent. I used to live in Shanghai and there was a great Uyghur restaurant near my apartment, near Longyang metro station if there are any Shanghai dwellers reading this. The mosques in China are gorgeous. There is one near Tai Hu that is blue with white minarets with many ethnic Han muslims going in and out. The muslims in China are not just Turks on the edges of the country. They are Han as well. (Han are the people we normally call "Chinese.")

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 10/21/2008
- Gatormouth I'm a Fan of Gatormouth 24 fans permalink
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"..the surprise of government attorneys who suggested that immigration officials might act to take the men into custody upon their arrival." These guys are Chinese citizens. To deport them to China would guarantee a swift death, Period. Convenient for the Bush administration, not so much for their families. I would bet keeping them in indefinite captivity was at least not an unpleasant solution for the Chinese government. No demands for release from their government, were there? The Uighur have always been a difficult people to control. Much better if the U.S. did there dirty work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 10/07/2008
- Juanon I'm a Fan of Juanon 13 fans permalink
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As Americans, we should all be ashamed that our government has perpetrated these and other crimes which the founding fathers would be aghast at.

Oh, and that we just stood by and kept shopping while it was all being done in our name.

To the trolls who will jump at my calling these crimes, what do you call the detention of human beings for almost 7 years with no evidence, no due process and likely a side order of torture?

May God forgive us all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 10/07/2008

"Embarrassed" is more like it, Juanon. "Shame" comes from personally doing something wrong.

I tried to stop Bush by voting against him twice. Tell me what more I could have done.

Other words for how I feel about the wreckage of the ideals my country stands for would be:
Horrified, Disgusted, Sickened, Worried, Shocked, Infuriated, etc. see any thesaurus.

But I understand your point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 10/07/2008
- Juanon I'm a Fan of Juanon 13 fans permalink
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You're right, embarrassed is more appropriate.

About the voting--I don't mean this as a criticism of you per se, but we sometimes see people in other countries really taking to the streets or calling general strikes and I can't help but wonder what it would take in today's America for something comparable to occur?

Maybe, given that our only focus is on consumerism (and, btw, I'm a marketer so if I'm saying that it must be really bad!), the collapse of the financial system will do the trick!

Better late, and for the wrong reason, than never, I suppose!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 10/07/2008
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