Halperin On Ayers: As Stupid As It Gets

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First Posted: 10- 7-08 04:48 PM   |   Updated: 11- 7-08 05:12 AM

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Well everyone, it's time for another installment of "UGH...The Effing Page" with its zombie-prince proprietor, Mark Halperin. You know, it wasn't long ago that I actually praised Mark Halperin for a rare moment of making a lick of damn sense up in the newshole! I remember the date: it was September 10, and I was marveling at Halperin, passionately saying things on CNN such as, "I think this is the press just absolutely playing into the McCain campaign's crocodile tears," and, "This is a victory for the McCain campaign in the sense that every day they can make this a pig fight in the mud. It's good for them because it's reducing Barack Obama's message even more. But I think this is a low point in the day and one of the low days of our collective coverage of this campaign. To spend even a minute on [lipstick on a pig], I think, is amazing and outrageous."

But today, the man has got a video up on The Page in which he fully indulges himself in the "low point" of the campaign's latest "amazing and outrageous turn," namely, the reinjection of William Ayers into the political conversation. Mind you, we are at this point because the McCain campaign is all out ideas on how to win and can do nothing else, and we know that the McCain campaign is all out ideas on how to win and can do nothing else because this is precisely what they told the press at the start of this week! But McCain wants to jump off a bridge, and I guess Mark Halperin has to follow.

So he engages Obama campaign flack Robert Gibbs in an interminable interrogation over William Ayers, signaling that the exchange is going to be full-on idiotic by beginning the interview with this question: "Have you ever been on a board with any terrorists?" From there, Halperin accepts two aspects of the Ayers story as true: first, he acknowledges that it is clear that Obama, himself, does not support terrorism, domestic or otherwise, from the Weather Underground or anyone. Second, he's willing to accept that the two men enjoy no close friendship or relationship, and that William Ayers radical viewpoints are specifically divergent from Obama's. You'd think that, having accepted these two principles, there'd be little else to talk about.

But Halperin soon gets to his harangue, asking Gibbs repeatedly, "Does Barack Obama think it's okay to have professional associations with Bill Ayers?" In this case, remember, by "professional associations," Halperin means "coincidentally ending up on a pair of boards with each other." Halperin asks the question because there's really no way to answer it -- these "associations" happened in the past, which is immutable. Just as John McCain's associations with lefty radical David Ifshin are in the past and cannot be changed. But let's not leave Gibbs off the hook, either: Gibbs is here as a campaign flack, and so his answer has to be a safe, politic answer.

It's a dumb, purely gotcha question, and its one that Gibbs, as a P.R. man, cannot answer truthfully. So I will answer it truthfully: while it's never okay to associate with anyone in the commission of a criminal act, it is absolutely, and always, okay to associate professionally with William Ayers on such activities as the Annenberg Challenge board. And here's why.

In the first place, if you want to pin down the responsible party for putting Obama and Ayers in the room together on these boards, you really have to go to whoever is responsible for naming people to the board itself. Obama and Ayers have no say in the matter, other than to agree or disagree to participate. In my previous life as a government contractor, I assembled grant review boards all the time, and the task basically boiled down to this: find any warm body I could to fill the positions we needed filled. Acting in concert with the appropriate agency, I worked very hard to keep known idiots and antisocial weirdos off the panels, but if someone ridiculous ended up serving, that was on me -- the other people that I put in the room were not responsible.

But, you say! Once Barack Obama learned about William Ayers radical politics and criminal past, shouldn't he have left the board, refused to participate? Again, from my own experience as a government contractor, I'll say this: Thank God people don't actually do this! I would have rarely, if ever, completed a grant review process on schedule! But more to the point: why would someone in Obama's position, continue to serve alongside someone with a repellent point of view? Well, as it turns out, there are people out there that put what's good for other people ahead of what's good for them. It's possible that Obama is one of them!

If you're a budding politician, with ambition and a bright career, and you find yourself sitting on some sort of committee, that makes real decisions, with real impact, alongside someone who you, and others, find objectionable, you are absolutely entitled to quit. Why not? You just spared yourself some potential embarrassment down the road. You want to have a career in politics, right? Well, go ahead. Leave that committee! Wash your hands of it. No one's ever going to blame you for your decision. Indeed, in all likelihood, no one will ever even know about it.

Except for you of course! And one of the things you might have to accept, in quitting this hypothetical panel, is that your decision to quit has potentially increased the influence of a deluded radical over important decisions. If you're the type who puts themselves first, this will not bother you. But if you're the type who puts others first, can it not be said that you have an obligation to sit in that room and serve as a strong voice that shepherds the decision-making process away from someone who's viewpoint is toxic? Is it not your duty to offset the opinions and beliefs of a man like William Ayers? Isn't this why parents join the PTA? To ensure that the bad decisions of misguided people can be opposed?

Let's be absolutely clear. I am not trying to convince anyone that this was Obama's line of thinking. He'll have to do his own convincing on that regard. Honestly, it seems to me that Obama did not find cause to rigorously oppose Ayers' in the context of their professional associations, though I'll let his condemnation of Ayers' past stand as sincere. Personally speaking, I'm much more concerned about Obama's "friendship" with Tom Coburn, who's always seemed like an outright loon to me.

But practically speaking, there's nothing anyone can do about the fact that these two men "associated professionally" at some point in the past. It would appear, however, that for all the alarmist blather we've had to endure over the matter, these "professional associations" have done no discernible harm to our Republic. This is more than I can say for some more pressing, and current concerns that we face as a nation. But if Mark Halperin just cannot get back to being the person who a month ago decried the very nonsense he's now yammering into his flipcam without first getting an answer to his question, "Is it okay to have professional associations with Bill Ayers?" then the answer is yes. Now, please, let's move along.

Well everyone, it's time for another installment of "UGH...The Effing Page" with its zombie-prince proprietor, Mark Halperin. You know, it wasn't long ago that I actually praised Mark Halperin for a ...
Well everyone, it's time for another installment of "UGH...The Effing Page" with its zombie-prince proprietor, Mark Halperin. You know, it wasn't long ago that I actually praised Mark Halperin for a ...
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Ask Halperin, Brooks, et al. if they have friends, associates, neighbors, relatives, schoolmates, club members, board members, anybody, anywhere, anytime who ever did anything that most people would consider wrong? If so, how did Halperin, et al. deal with that? Did they move? Resign? Organize a public shunning ? It is absurd. If the courts, the City of Chicago, State of Illinois, U.S. governement, and (rich Republican ) Annenberg permit Ayers and Dohrn to be citizens of Chicago and on that charitable board and if the City of Chicago has given Ayers an award for his work, then what exactly are Halperin's motives? We don't think that kind of inflammatory blather is worth airtime or our time. Many of us who were active in the 60s know people who did things that run the political gamut. In spite of mercantile cheapening of an era, it was NOT all sex, drugs, rock and roll. More than anything, it was a POLITICAL era with a wide range of political views and activities. In my opinion, violence was beyond the pale, but our government then, as now, engaged in tremendous violence. Maybe Obama realizes that people can transcend their past, redeem themselves, be of value in their communities - and that is apparently what Ayers has done. If Halperin is angry that Ayers "got away" with something, then why doesn't he turn that "moral outrage" to Bush-Cheney and cronies who have actually caused death and destruction and ruined lives

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:04 PM on 10/08/2008
- vegas9999 I'm a Fan of vegas9999 6 fans permalink

The real sad aspect of this election, no matter who wins, is that we find out this Ayers guy is teaching our children.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 10/08/2008
- sarale23 I'm a Fan of sarale23 3 fans permalink
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Agree, it's very sad.
But, as the saying goes, if at 20 you're not a socialist, you have no heart; if at 40 you're still a socialist, you have no brains.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 10/08/2008
- Fabienne I'm a Fan of Fabienne 31 fans permalink

If at 40 you live in a socialist country like Sweden or Denmark or Norway, you have universal health care, access to higher education, and live in a well-run country with opportunities for all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 PM on 10/08/2008
- Whinger I'm a Fan of Whinger 44 fans permalink
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Yeah! A road leading to a roundabout across a bridge to nowhere!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 10/08/2008

Points should be made as follows:

Obama was part of a board that focused on raising money to improve poor schools.
There were several people on the Anneberg School Project
Obama didn't know about this person's background 40 yrs ago when he joined this board
Ayers has since been rehabilitated and is a professor at University of Illinois, doing wonderful things for the community and education
What is wrong with Obama working on a project that democrats and republicans have been working on, founded by a person that was respected by Ronald Reagan that helps poor communities?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 10/08/2008
- DWP I'm a Fan of DWP 2 fans permalink

Guilt by association is stupid. I don't know everything about every one of my neighbors and we picnic together etc. So if I run for office am would I find out that one of these nieghbors had done something awful Wow! This business of talking and not letting the other person finish is not only rude it is stupid. Especially when you know the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 PM on 10/08/2008
- magggs I'm a Fan of magggs 7 fans permalink
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Does anybody else think Halperin goes a little bit overboard in his worship of Matt Drudge? Today he lists him (again) in his Five Most Important People list. I bet even fewer people care about what Drudge blasts out than care about Ayers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 10/08/2008

God yes! I agree. The Dems underestimate the pitfall of these smears at their own peril, and
they better come up with a strategy on how to deflect such questions beyond winging it and allowing
themselves to get dragged down into the much and mire. I'm a little concerned because I notice that Obama, even in the wake of a successful but formulaic debate performance, has flagged slightly in the polls. What then should the strategy be? Go negative in reverse?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 10/08/2008

another note... they are not friends. period. On a board together that met 12 times, there was a coffee social at Ayers house where several people were invited... acquaintance, not close, not friends, but acquaintance. My coworker at my office is closer to me than this guy was to Obama. Why are we even discussing this? Does that mean that my coworker's past associations suddenly become mine?


Please.... let's move on. We have other more important issues to discuss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 10/08/2008

I don't think I'm the only one to observe that the Obama campaign is missing a much better response to Ayers:

1. List all the prominent Republicans who have been "professionally associated" with Ayers
2. Demand that McCain/Palin denounce all of these individuals as well or drop the whole matter.
3. Repeat 2 for the MSM
4. Since 2 and 3 are likely to bring no response, put the demand in an ad - and dismiss the whole matter as gutter politics double standards.

I realise the one charge left "open" is hosting a "launch" party at Ayers house - which is probably harder to counter this way since Ayers would hardly be likely to help launch a Republican - but maybe hid did?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 10/08/2008

By Halperin's logic, there should be 4,000 empty churches because that many Catholic priests have admitted to pedophilia in just the last decade but did not step down. There should be thousands more Churches and Temples empty because of the likes of extremist and anti-semitic pastors like Hagee, Jimmy Swaggert, Rod Parsely, and Ted Haggard. Boards of Directors of non-profits and corporations ought to be dissolving all the time, since some member of the board is revealed as a tax cheat, or breaking UN sanctions, or having some nefarious activity on the side. Entire boards should be resigning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 10/08/2008
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This Ayers thing is so stupid.
Why not hunt down the cabbie who took Mohamed Atta to the airport and ask him if it's okay to have professional associations with terrorists? Maybe throw him in Gitmo.
Jeezus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 10/08/2008

If McCain wins, he might take you up on that :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 10/08/2008
- Jules1 I'm a Fan of Jules1 27 fans permalink

The only reason McCain did not bring up Ayers, he is a coward, he can attack from behind ( Repulicans love that) but will not face you and attack on the subject of Ayers, McCain is such a coward he has a woman do the attacking, he has never said the word Ayers in public, he let Palin do that, then he added, who is Obama, what does he have planned for America.


Well McCain besides Ayers and Obama ,there were republicans serving on that board, now this does not make sense, repulicans wanting to help someone, but they were there and they did not complain about Ayers.All you Obama haters, better go and check into all the boards that McCain had his name on the letterhead, , hnmmmm!!! think more investigation needed here, nope the papers have it all. Liddy, etc,etc,etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 10/08/2008
- Jules1 I'm a Fan of Jules1 27 fans permalink

pithy
, You forgot waterboard­s.........­..........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 10/08/2008
- iafn I'm a Fan of iafn 3 fans permalink

From my casual conversations, I think there are a lot of Republicans that are suspicious of serving on boards, period, unless they're church-related. Working to improve inner city schools? Being a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER (ha ha ha)? Who even cares about radicals on the board; just spending time on that stuff is reason enough to be suspicious. For these guys, the only "real" service is military service.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 10/08/2008
- pithy I'm a Fan of pithy 10 fans permalink


There's one kind of boards Republicans like to sit on - Boards of Directors of multi-conglomerates where they can vote in block-buster salaries for their friends and nifty retreats to go on to discuss (monkey) business in posh surroundings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 10/08/2008
- LucieLee I'm a Fan of LucieLee 25 fans permalink
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the msm has been over indulging in that wackadoode koolaid. Once again Robert Gibbs shows hinself to be a guy of great character......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 10/08/2008
- imfedup I'm a Fan of imfedup 39 fans permalink
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This is one big, stinking red herring. It is totally, utterly irrelevant. Obama did not use poor judgment. He should not even hint that he thinks he did. It's absurd. If that's all they have to say about Obama, they need to realize that they are DONE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 AM on 10/08/2008
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