HuffPollstrology: Candidates' Horoscopes, Polls And More For October 7

11/06/2008 05:12 am ET | Updated May 25, 2011

Polls have come to dominate the media's horse race coverage of political campaigns. Pundits and reporters constantly use them to tell us who's hot and who's not -- but skip over the fact that plummeting response rates and variables like undecided voters and margins of error often render these polls useless as anything other than lightweight diversions on par with horoscopes and political betting lines. Below you'll find a slew of polling, astrological, and betting information that will hopefully help the polling junkies in the media keep polls in the proper perspective.

We've also updated HuffPollstrology to bring you regular takes from astrologers on the state of the presidential race. And we've included a section that digs deeper into how polls are conducted. And to make sure we're really investigating, we're going to add various blogs and articles that cast a skeptical eye on polling. Read on for lots of HuffPollstrology:



Back to the presidential candidates we are. Today marks the middle of the communication mangling Mercury retrograde. This day observes an alignment of the Earth-Sun-Mercury in which if one is pushing an agenda, it might just slip through the cracks and get right where one wants it to be. With the second debate tomorrow, let's take a look at how the candidates fare. First a shared general notation: This debate occurs with the Moon in Capricorn. This placement is methodical, plodding, calculating, historical in nature, heavy on facts and figures and lacks a sense of humor. If neither candidate adds fire, expect viewers to fall off (or asleep) in the first forty-five minutes.


McCain enters this debate in a short term trigger, stress free zone. Venus recently passed through a rough angle to his edgy Mars. During this time he was testy with the press, sarcastic and came off sounding like the Penguin in Batman as he gloated over Sarah's debate performance. That edge is gone. Even a renegade has enough sense to respond to debate coaches. During the debate, the self-proclaimed maverick is favored by the Capricorn Moon, though he appears more conservative than his maverick brand desires. Since Capricorn rules archives and legacies, his voting record on women's rights, the economy, social and environmental issues hurt him. McCain enjoys a very, very short period where it appears that damage control contained recent flooding. Don't get comfy. Saturn is now virtually on top of his Neptune. It's unlikely his debate statements pass fact check sniff tests. Safety tip: Resist the urge to go negative. Negative ads badly bite his butt within two weeks.


Mars, male stuff, now in Scorpio favors Obama's Venus, female/economic stuff. His polling generally improves with woman, and his presence in the debate regarding the economy and women's rights works fantastically. With the Moon of the debate camping out on his Saturn, he must avoid boring viewers or appearing too smart. You might know your stuff and have facts, but I was hoping for a good show - or at least a fight. I got spoiled last week by the perky candidate. At least give me a wink and a nod so I feel comfortable. The risk for Obama is being too solid, strategic and Presidential. His best drama comes from moments in which he challenges McCain's values and Palin's presence, declaring nonsense as nonsense. Smoothly throttled, dedicated passion dedicated to myth busting is the ticket.

Likely this debate does not do much to change ongoing polling trends. Without fire, the debate is a draw on chart paper. Little changes until later in the week, when global tensions recapture our focus, which has unfortunately slipped.


HuffPost is delving into the gray area of how polls are conducted. Below is an analysis of how pollsters come up with the numbers through response rates. The definition of a response rate is taken from Arianna's 1998 column "Investigating The Pollsters."

The key to polling's accuracy is the principle of "equal probability of selection." But if larger and larger numbers among those randomly selected refuse to participate, this principle no longer applies.

We asked polling companies to please give us the response and refusal rates for their polls listed below.

Results: McCain 45%, Obama 49%
Method: 1,200 likely voters
"Can you please give us the response and refusal rates for your most recent national poll?": An ARG representative told us, "For the nationwide survey conducted September 27-29:

Total adults contacted: 4,396

Total adults screened: 2,011*

Total failing screen or dropping out: 811

Total sample size: 1,200

* Some adults screened themselves out prior to the actual screen (e.g., not registered to vote, not planning to vote)."

Results: McCain 44%, Obama 48%
Method: 2,873 likely voters polled using an online panel.
"Can you please give us the response and refusal rates for your most recent national poll?": A Zogby representative told us, "6.1% of those who received an invitation completed the survey."

Results: McCain 40%, Obama 52%
Method: 1,100 likely voters polled over three days.
"Can you please give us the response and refusal rates for your most recent national poll?": A Research 2000 representative explained the methodology of the poll, saying that it was a rolling poll with a baseline of 1,100 likely voters, taking approximately 355 to 365 calls per night and throwing out the oldest numbers. "I would say that [we take] one in every eight calls on average," he said, attributing this rate to a combination of callers "telling us to go to hell" and callers not meeting their standard of a "likely voter" through a name recognition test.

Results: McCain 42%, Obama 50%
Method: ,2744 registered voters polled over three days.
"Can you please give us the response and refusal rates for your most recent national poll?": 14% response rate, 26% refusal rate. This is an average rate for this particular series of polls, technically defined as the CASRO rate which is similar to the AAPOR-III response rate (these definitions can be found here).

Results: Obama 52%, McCain 44%
Method: Sample of 3,000 likely voters over three days.
"Can you please give us the response and refusal rates for your most recent national poll?": A representative for Rasmussen told us, "We don't give out that information".

Results: Obama 50%, McCain 43%
Method: Sample of 800 likely voters.
"Will it be possible for us to get the response and refusal rates for your most recent national poll?": After a few calls, a representative for Tarrance told us, "It's not going to be. Write what you need to write, but it's not going to be. We're four weeks out from a campaign and quite frankly this is not anywhere near my priority list. Okay?"



Mccain vs obama in the General election




Daily Kos/Research 2000 Tracking


August 29, 1936

It might feel as though you're still in a state of flux. It's likely though that you've attracted help and that within days, your nerves will calm. For now, the accent may be on interiors and/or fashions. Trailing telephone and television cable issues might require attention. Midst continuing chaos, the chance to add a new skill to your portfolio, could be something you're excited to embrace. Your mental focus, however, is likely to be excellent. Absorbing facts and figures is unlikely to be a problem. You might need to raid this memory bank on behalf of a relative who needs a tangible reminder of the past: you could be the one who locates the old photograph or letter that answers a puzzle.


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DailyKos/Research 2000 Tracking


August 4, 1961

The prospect of meeting up with people you haven't seen in ages could leave you alternately excited - but also filled with trepidation. You may not be sure you have the resources to cope. What might excite you though is seeing friends you bump into fairly regularly but who have recently made a major move. You might be contemplating this yourself - and seeking advice. You could so, so pull off something special today: making it clear you know who you are and what you can offer. This could endear you even more to someone close who's well aware of the efforts you make and who doesn't think you're always sufficiently well rewarded. Contact with people you see rarely but whom you admire very much is likely. Your relationship with an 'old' item could change too - with you 'promoting' it to a place where it can be shown off.


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weather report
East Chance of Rain Pittsburgh, PA

Partly cloudy skies. High 68F. Winds E at 5 to 10 mph.

south Chance of Rain

Charlotte, NC

Partly cloudy skies. High 74F. Winds ENE at 5 to 10 mph.

midwest Chance of Rain Cleveland, OH

Sunshine and clouds mixed. High 68F. Winds ESE at 5 to 10 mph.

west Chance of Rain

Santa Barbara, CA

A mainly sunny sky. High near 80F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph.


General Election Poll: DailyKos/Research 2000

The Daily Kos tracking poll is conducted by the experienced and professional pollsters at Research 2000, and like all media polls, are not influenced by the sponsor. It’s not a liberal poll or a conservative poll, it’s a poll – a snapshot over a three-day period.

The tracking poll has a baseline of 1100 likely voters nationwide.

Results are based on a three day rolling average.

The margin for error is 3% for the overall tracking.

The margin for error is 5.1% for individual day tracking.




Betting Lines: Intrade Prediction Markets

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