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TIM PARADIS | October 7, 2008 06:43 PM EST | AP

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Traders Matthew Jones, center, and Paul Svachula, left, watch the markets in the S&P 500 futures trading pit at the CME Group in Chicago, Tuesday, Oct. 7, 2008. The misery worsened on Wall Street Tuesday, with stocks piling on the losses late in the session and bringing the two-day decline in the Dow Jones industrials to more than 875 points amid escalating worries about credit markets and financial sector. The Standard & Poor's 500 index declined 60.66, or 5.74 percent, to 996.23. (AP Photo/M. Spencer Green)

NEW YORK — The misery worsened on Wall Street Tuesday, with stocks piling on losses late in the session and bringing the two-day decline in the Dow Jones industrials to more than 875 points amid escalating worries about credit markets and the financial sector.

The Dow lost more than 500 points and all the major indexes slid more than 5 percent. The Standard & Poor's 500 index saw its first close below 1,000 in five years.

Steps by the Federal Reserve to reinvigorate the dormant credit markets ultimately weren't enough to calm nervous investors. News about financial companies only added to their despondent mood.

"The calls I'm getting _ every money manager I deal with, and every client I talk to _ are just very emotional. This is a very, very emotional time, and most of them are taking steps to shore up their defenses, reducing exposure to stocks just to defend their portfolios," said Hugh Johnson, chairman and chief investment officer of Johnson Illington Advisors.

The magnitude of the stock market's plunge is reflected in the Dow's grim stats:

_ Tuesday's close was its lowest close in five years, since Sept. 30, 2003.

_ In just five trading days this month, and in the fourth quarter, it is down about 1,400 points, or 13 percent.

_ It has fallen 33.3 percent since its record close of 14,164.53, a year ago Thursday.

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_ Through Tuesday, it suffered its largest five-day point decline ever, and its largest five-day percentage drop since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

The Dow's percentage loss Tuesday was 5.11 percent, actually a better performance than the 5.74 percent suffered by the S&P, the market indicator most watched by traders and analysts. The Nasdaq composite dropped 5.8 percent.

The market's paper loss for the session came to about $700 billion, as measured by the Dow Jones Wilshire 5000 Composite Index, which tracks 5,000 U.S.-based companies' stocks. So far this month, the loss has come to about $2.2 trillion.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke warned in a speech Tuesday that the financial crisis could prolong the difficulty the economy is facing. While his remarks were widely regarded as a sign that an interest rate cut could be in the offing, Wall Street appeared little comforted and focused on his downbeat assessment.

Earlier, the Fed announced plans to buy massive amounts of corporate debt to jump-start lending in the markets where many companies turn for short-term loans called commercial paper. The evaporation of faith that loans will be repaid has lenders weary and is making it more difficult and expensive for businesses and consumers to borrow.

The credit markets did show some slight signs of easing as demand for safe-haven investments decreased, though that offered little comfort to investors highly anxious about the extremely low lending levels and their impact on the economy. The markets seized up last month after Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. filed for bankruptcy and the government stepped in to rescue insurer American International Group Inc.

The Fed's latest move to lubricate the credit markets stops short of a broad interest rate reduction that some investors say is necessary to restore confidence in the market. Other market watchers argue, however, that more focused steps like Fed's decision to buy commercial paper are what's needed.

Investors remain worried about financial companies like Bank of America Corp., which fell after slashing its dividend and reporting that its third-quarter profit fell 68 percent. The stock fell $8.45, or 26 percent, to $23.77 Tuesday. It was by far the steepest decliner among the 30 stocks that comprise the Dow industrials.

And a rumor that Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group Inc. was pulling out of a deal to acquire up to 24.9 percent of the voting shares of Morgan Stanley sent the investment bank's stock tumbling $5.85, or 25 percent, to $17.65. The companies denied the rumor, but the Street was panicky enough that it still sent Morgan Stanley and other financials tumbling.

Investors are fearful that financial companies will continue to face cash shortages even with efforts in Washington and by other governments to resuscitate lending.

"It's such a widespread loss of confidence and, to some extent, a race for the exits," Johnson said.

Stocks ended lower for the fifth straight session. The Dow fell 508.39, or 5.11 percent, to 9,447.11. The drop came a day after the blue chips fell below 10,000 for the first time in four years. The Dow skidded as much as 800 points on Monday before finishing with a loss of 370.

Broader indexes also fell. The S&P 500 index declined 60.66, or 5.74 percent, to 996.23, the first close below the 1,000 mark since September 2003. The Nasdaq composite index fell 108.08, or 5.80 percent, to 1,754.88.

The dollar was mostly lower against other major currencies, while gold prices rose.

Oil prices rebounded after plunging Monday to an eight-month low on concerns a global recession will undermine demand for crude. Light, sweet crude rose $2.25 to settle at $90.06 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Concerns about the credit markets still fed demand for the relative safety of government debt, though pressures eased. The yield on the three-month Treasury bill, which moves opposite its price, rebounded to 0.81 percent from 0.50 percent late Monday. Demand for short-term Treasurys remains high because of their safety; investors are willing to take extremely low returns just to have their money in a secure place.

Some investors moved out of longer-term Treasury bonds, which don't draw as much demand as shorter-term debt in times of fear. The yield on the 10-year note rose to 3.51 percent from 3.45 percent late Monday.

Investors are still hoping to see other moves from the Fed to boost confidence. Australia's central bank lowered interest rates by the largest amount since 1992 in a surprise move, and that reignited hopes that others, including the Fed and European Central Bank, might follow suit.

Though not giving the market a rate cut, the Fed has taken other steps to help unclog the credit markets. On Tuesday, policymakers provided more details about when it will make $900 billion in short-term loans available to squeezed banks.

The loans are made available to banks through auctions. The Fed, in coordination with other countries' central banks engaged in similar efforts, laid out dates that it will conduct the auctions through the rest of this year.

But write-downs of bad debt at Bank of America are a reminder to investors that troubles within the financial sector remain, according to Kim Caughey, equity research analyst at Fort Pitt Capital Group.

"I think we have weeks of volatility ahead of us," she said. "We're not overly optimistic but we're not indulging in doom and gloom either."

She said the arrival of quarterly results from corporations has made investors even more jittery, with investors seeking any information about how companies are faring. She said some companies could go under because of the tough economic conditions but that the stronger players would survive.

"You're going to get that Darwinian shakeout process. That's going to happen from the mom and pops all the way up to the big boys," she said.

Minutes from the Fed's last meeting described a U.S. economy that was slowing considerably and credit markets that were deteriorating rapidly. The meeting was held Sept. 16, the day after the failure of Lehman Brothers. The central bank's Open Market Committee found the risks from weaker growth and higher inflation were roughly equal; that was its rationale for leaving rates unchanged. Policymakers, who will meet again at the end of the month, left key interest rate unchanged at 2 percent.

About 2,800 stocks declined on the New York Stock Exchange, while fewer than 400 advanced. Consolidated volume came to 6.84 billion shares, compared with 7.81 billion shares traded Monday.

The Russell 2000 index of smaller companies fell 36.96, or 6.20 percent, to 558.95.

Overseas, Japan's Nikkei stock average fell 3.03 percent. Britain's FTSE 100 rose 0.35 percent, Germany's DAX index fell 1.12 percent, and France's CAC-40 rose 0.55 percent.

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NEW YORK — The misery worsened on Wall Street Tuesday, with stocks piling on losses late in the session and bringing the two-day decline in the Dow Jones industrials to more than 875 points amid...
NEW YORK — The misery worsened on Wall Street Tuesday, with stocks piling on losses late in the session and bringing the two-day decline in the Dow Jones industrials to more than 875 points amid...
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- PT6 I'm a Fan of PT6 25 fans permalink

Since Bush has basically retired and has no clout anyway, it may be that Barack needs to take control of this market PANIC after he talks to his advisors!

This is a Crisis out of control and CONFIDENCE in our New Leader is needed!

Please set the stage so the world's markets can settle down!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 AM on 10/08/2008
- miatch I'm a Fan of miatch 2 fans permalink

Time for a New New Deal. Time for a New FDR. Time for Obama!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 AM on 10/08/2008
- PT6 I'm a Fan of PT6 25 fans permalink

This is getting out of hand and we need to get it stopped!

We need RE-REGULATION NOW and more controls on TRICK TRADING!

We need to get financial people to stop the panic selling.

Perhaps a sound talk by Obama after he talks to his advisors!

What is Paulson DOING? Get that MOVING!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 AM on 10/08/2008
- Harrier I'm a Fan of Harrier 13 fans permalink

The funny thing is, the feds still don't get it. Until they start throwing people in jail and helping and helping small business in a real and meaningful way, nobody will believe the Feds aren't in on this. Small business needs money a lot worse than the auto or oil industry. The problem is a lot bigger than what the feds and law makers are thinking. All the handout congress gave over the past 8 years need to be called back. I don't care if the systems collapses. In March of 2003, on of my friends, who I wouldn't loan $10, got a $500,000 loan for a house from Washington Mutual. There is no way WaMu did not know this guy was a financial train wreck. Yet they gave it to him anyways. The next day, I pulled every penny I had out of the market. All my friends kept saving I must have had a stroke and was crazy. As the years went on, the stock market when sideways and I got interest. 5 years at 5% fixed, I'm up over 30% and got the money I lost from taxes back plus more. How any educated person could not see the economy was not being run entirely on funny money is beyond me. This is not something the Greenspan could not see. He in fact let it go on purpose-no doubt in my mind or anyone else. We are only 25% through the foreclosure crisis

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 AM on 10/08/2008

Russian markets down 12% up 1%, net -11% in first minute - trading suspended.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 AM on 10/08/2008
- betabeta I'm a Fan of betabeta 2 fans permalink

Are you serious? Wow that is a wild ride!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 AM on 10/08/2008
- Daw8it I'm a Fan of Daw8it 23 fans permalink
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Australian market drops 100 point in first 30 minutes of trading;

now down 230 points in 4 four hours

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 10/08/2008
- betabeta I'm a Fan of betabeta 2 fans permalink

The Nikkei just closed down almost 10% the Hang Seng almost 6% down... what the heck! Back when I had a portfolio (got out of the market and rolled to safety in 2006 thank goodness) I could always count on my international investments, especially the Nikkei, even when the NYSE and Dow was tanking. I think we are going into a depression, I don't care how the media tries to spin it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 10/08/2008
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right now on CNN int'l they'ver got

Richard Quest, the crackhead,

explaing why the Nikkei 225 is down 10%

God help us!

CNN the best crack team on TV!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 AM on 10/08/2008
- miatch I'm a Fan of miatch 2 fans permalink

He was busted with Meth, not Crack. I for one am proud of CNN for giving the man a second chance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 AM on 10/08/2008
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1041 fans permalink
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http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/derivatives-new-ticking-time-bomb/story.aspx?guid=%7BB9E54A5D-4796-4D0D-AC9E-D9124B59D436%7D

^^^ Must read on the derivatives bubble... Market cap in 2008 was $661 trillion, or $60,000 for every man, woman, and child on the planet.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aCkILJvA5idw&refer=home

"Asian Stocks Plunge; Nikkei Drops Most Since 1987, Indonesia Halts Trading" - Current headline as I type, the NIKKEI closed down -671 losing 7.1% in the trading session that just closed.

This is almost like a see-saw, or wave effect...

Given that the invisible derivative market is larger than the global market cap....

This has never happened before in history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 AM on 10/08/2008
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1041 fans permalink
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"Japan's Nikkei 225 Stock Average lost 9.4 percent to 9,203.32, the biggest plunge since global markets crashed in October 1987."

After the close, they recalculated, and shaved nearly 300 additional points off... Down -952.58

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 AM on 10/08/2008

Colleagues: I believe there is much to be said about the advantage of hindsight:
You just might enjoy the following links to market commentary from 2002 on eMOTION! REPORTS.com; an automotive/aerospace industries research and analysis site.

http://www.emotionreports.com/home.html

From The eMOTION! REPORTS Archives:

Industry Edge: Reflections on The Wall Street Crisis (image: AP)

In light of the profoundly dangerous state of affairs among Wall Street entities representing the very foundations of US financial markets, we thought we would look into our 2002 archives to determine if analyses postulated at that time could withstand the scrutiny of hindsight 6 years hence... comments, anyone?

On Enron...

A MARKET IN CRISIS... GREENSPAN STEP DOWN?...7000 DOW? Distinct Possibilities...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 10/08/2008

Addendum to above post reflecting content of link. It could have been written today, just change the date to September 8, 2008...
JULY 18, 2002
eMOTION! REPORTS.com www.emotionreports.comm)
Myron D.Stokes, Publisher

Much to the chagrin of even the most optimistic observers and players, the market, particularly the Dow, continues to do its thing, which is to find its true level.
The DJIA closed Thursday of this week at 8409.49 -- these days about as "bearish" as Russia -- but no doubt on its way to "new" lows. A quick look at the rise of the Dow from 3000 in 1990, to 7000 in 1997, to above 11000 in the fall of 1999 via Dow-Jones indexes www.djindexes.com/jsp/avgDecades.jsp?decade=1990#dowdiaryy) is an excellent historical comparative.
In light of recent revelations and investigations, it really and truly is in the best interest of the economy to stop the artificial stimulus that has been part and parcel to market existence for at least the past 5 years. The extent to which key Wall Street executives encouraged such stimulus and which resulted in the subsuming of the most basic checks and balances, have made the alleged excesses of Milken and Boesky seem trivial by comparison. Presidential calls for bringing such ones to justice are viewed by many as hollow; afterall, the longest running bull market required a modification, if not an outright suspension of the SEC regs so elegantly crafted by Joe Kennedy. Cont'd in next post...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 10/08/2008

Cont'd Third Post... eMOTION! REPORTS.com on market

In the meantime, with no further inappropriate stimulation, the Dow will fall to within the 7,000-7,500 range, with 7,000 to 7,200 representing the buy, or sell, point. These numbers will represent as true an indication of market worth as we've seen over the past half decade. It's as close as the market will come to setting itself back to zero, and benefit is that any subsequent increases in level will be largely viewed by investors as real. The upshot: investor confidence rises. # # #

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 10/08/2008

Cont'd... Second post eMOTION! REPORTS.com on Market

It is also our expectation that Greenspan may well be "invited" to step down, but for reasons all but diametrically opposite to the head of the SEC. The Chairman is about perfect a choice for the position as they come. And in a perfect world devoid of presumed prerequisite political machinations, there would be no question as to competency and capability to stay long term. He has, afterall, presided over one of the longest -- if not the longest -- boom cycles in US history. Prior to the step down possibility, the market would be well served if he ignores the political ramifications associated with raising Federal rates by a half to a full point.

This is the next necessary step that will accomplish everything everyone wants the market to do, in addition to reeling in an artificially weak Yen.

The "irrational exuberance" that prompted Greenspan to "build a hedge against inflation" by raising rates six years ago in the middle of a boom, has come full circle in the damage inflicted on our economy by investor overconfidence.

Right now, at this moment, he needs to show the same courage and conviction demonstrated then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 10/08/2008
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Why doesn't Huffpo let responses to the FM claptrap the r e p u k e are hawking go through?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 AM on 10/08/2008
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The Dow will be down to 4000 or thereabouts by the end of the week.

haven't gotten all your $ out of 401K and the banks yet?

SUCKERS !

Get all $ out, max out the cards, put everything in Swiss Francs or Yuans.

PS: if you have a BofA VISA it'll be cancelled this month.

You heard it here first.

Call me Paul.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 10/08/2008
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 611 fans permalink
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Buy lots of Euros, Pounds and Loonies, if you want to survive. After the elections, the dollar is going to follow Wall Street into the abyss... Now it's a good moment to buy, as Americans are still naively hoping the elections will result in any sort of "change" and heavily buying dollars (Europeans too, as they know the elections approaching ALWAYS result in an overpriced USD.) Then, of course, reality will ensue...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 10/08/2008

This i_gnorant n_eurotic child thinks that an economic downtown is ( or can be) somehow contained to a single country- U.S. Look up a concept called global markets.... but slowly. Don't over strain yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 10/08/2008
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 611 fans permalink
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Please flag as abusive. It's time for this rude poster who often calls me a wh_ore to go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 10/08/2008

Lesson 1:The central banks of China, Canada, Sweden, and Switzerland cut interest rates to avoid recession.
Lesson 2:The rate cuts came against a backdrop of increasing anxiety in global financial markets.
Now go and wipe that drool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 10/08/2008
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 611 fans permalink
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It's so funny to receive "lessons" from someone who has claimed on these pages that:

1. The Roman Empire only lasted 300 years
2. Poland's Communist Party was extremely popular in that country
3. France and the US "won" the Vietnam war

Thank you very much for participating in this forum, you'll improve your English and , at the same time, you'll provide us with priceless involuntary comedy. A win-win situation...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 10/08/2008
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 611 fans permalink
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I'm sorry, but someone who made such ridiculous claims as:

1. The Roman Empire only lasted 300 years
2. Poland's Communist Party was extremely popular in that country
3. France and the US "won" the Vietnam war

honestly couldn't teach a two-year-old.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 10/08/2008
- AmandaBC I'm a Fan of AmandaBC 611 fans permalink
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"The fundamentals of the US economy are strong."

I bet you're still buying into that...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 10/08/2008
- elcojonu I'm a Fan of elcojonu 28 fans permalink

Keep cash handy folks, we're headed for a depression; Credit Markets are not coming back( between 50 and 60 trillion dollars out there in ' Derivatives ' ) and the Fed will have no choice but to start the Printing Presses soon. Get ready for a Weimar Republic-type inflationary spiral.
It's bad and no one has THE answer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:54 AM on 10/08/2008
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sorry to break your bubble (pun intended)

dervatives is not 60 trillion

but 600 TRILLION !!

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,581502,00.html

plus...

newsflash...

can't buy GOLD at any price!

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,581923,00.html

call me Paul

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:12 AM on 10/08/2008
- elcojonu I'm a Fan of elcojonu 28 fans permalink

It's over.
Find a Coffee Can and a good corner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 AM on 10/08/2008
- DWX I'm a Fan of DWX permalink

Many financial institutions across the world are tumbling and require government rescue. I think Fidel must be really glad that his socialist ideology has been finally vindicated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 AM on 10/08/2008

The Bush Bunch can not ellude or stop the indifferent laws of economics. The rise in the stock markets of the world reflected the influence of inflated value. Following the lead of the Americans, governments flooded their economies with easy credit and money. The underlying value did not relate to the value of the ballooned markets.
Altogether investors discovered this fact as the American economy came undone from incredible, unstainable debt. And the markets are crashing with historical ferociousness.
The futile attempts for the incompetent, self-interested Bernacke and Paulson to stop the market collapse by squandered American borrowed money is the height of stupidity and futility. Like water, the market must find its own level. Then government can begin to attempt to put together resources with programs of merit.
After purging the bad actors of this despicable regime, the next President must carefully direct resources that immediately begin to reinstill employment in rebuilding our infrastructure and manufacturing and new sources of energy.
We have the worst leaders in our history to address the greatest economic crisis in our history. Such a situation is catastrophic for the welfare and future of our citizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 AM on 10/08/2008
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