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TIM PARADIS | October 7, 2008 06:43 PM EST | AP

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Traders Matthew Jones, center, and Paul Svachula, left, watch the markets in the S&P 500 futures trading pit at the CME Group in Chicago, Tuesday, Oct. 7, 2008. The misery worsened on Wall Street Tuesday, with stocks piling on the losses late in the session and bringing the two-day decline in the Dow Jones industrials to more than 875 points amid escalating worries about credit markets and financial sector. The Standard & Poor's 500 index declined 60.66, or 5.74 percent, to 996.23. (AP Photo/M. Spencer Green)

NEW YORK — The misery worsened on Wall Street Tuesday, with stocks piling on losses late in the session and bringing the two-day decline in the Dow Jones industrials to more than 875 points amid escalating worries about credit markets and the financial sector.

The Dow lost more than 500 points and all the major indexes slid more than 5 percent. The Standard & Poor's 500 index saw its first close below 1,000 in five years.

Steps by the Federal Reserve to reinvigorate the dormant credit markets ultimately weren't enough to calm nervous investors. News about financial companies only added to their despondent mood.

"The calls I'm getting _ every money manager I deal with, and every client I talk to _ are just very emotional. This is a very, very emotional time, and most of them are taking steps to shore up their defenses, reducing exposure to stocks just to defend their portfolios," said Hugh Johnson, chairman and chief investment officer of Johnson Illington Advisors.

The magnitude of the stock market's plunge is reflected in the Dow's grim stats:

_ Tuesday's close was its lowest close in five years, since Sept. 30, 2003.

_ In just five trading days this month, and in the fourth quarter, it is down about 1,400 points, or 13 percent.

_ It has fallen 33.3 percent since its record close of 14,164.53, a year ago Thursday.

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_ Through Tuesday, it suffered its largest five-day point decline ever, and its largest five-day percentage drop since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

The Dow's percentage loss Tuesday was 5.11 percent, actually a better performance than the 5.74 percent suffered by the S&P, the market indicator most watched by traders and analysts. The Nasdaq composite dropped 5.8 percent.

The market's paper loss for the session came to about $700 billion, as measured by the Dow Jones Wilshire 5000 Composite Index, which tracks 5,000 U.S.-based companies' stocks. So far this month, the loss has come to about $2.2 trillion.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke warned in a speech Tuesday that the financial crisis could prolong the difficulty the economy is facing. While his remarks were widely regarded as a sign that an interest rate cut could be in the offing, Wall Street appeared little comforted and focused on his downbeat assessment.

Earlier, the Fed announced plans to buy massive amounts of corporate debt to jump-start lending in the markets where many companies turn for short-term loans called commercial paper. The evaporation of faith that loans will be repaid has lenders weary and is making it more difficult and expensive for businesses and consumers to borrow.

The credit markets did show some slight signs of easing as demand for safe-haven investments decreased, though that offered little comfort to investors highly anxious about the extremely low lending levels and their impact on the economy. The markets seized up last month after Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. filed for bankruptcy and the government stepped in to rescue insurer American International Group Inc.

The Fed's latest move to lubricate the credit markets stops short of a broad interest rate reduction that some investors say is necessary to restore confidence in the market. Other market watchers argue, however, that more focused steps like Fed's decision to buy commercial paper are what's needed.

Investors remain worried about financial companies like Bank of America Corp., which fell after slashing its dividend and reporting that its third-quarter profit fell 68 percent. The stock fell $8.45, or 26 percent, to $23.77 Tuesday. It was by far the steepest decliner among the 30 stocks that comprise the Dow industrials.

And a rumor that Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group Inc. was pulling out of a deal to acquire up to 24.9 percent of the voting shares of Morgan Stanley sent the investment bank's stock tumbling $5.85, or 25 percent, to $17.65. The companies denied the rumor, but the Street was panicky enough that it still sent Morgan Stanley and other financials tumbling.

Investors are fearful that financial companies will continue to face cash shortages even with efforts in Washington and by other governments to resuscitate lending.

"It's such a widespread loss of confidence and, to some extent, a race for the exits," Johnson said.

Stocks ended lower for the fifth straight session. The Dow fell 508.39, or 5.11 percent, to 9,447.11. The drop came a day after the blue chips fell below 10,000 for the first time in four years. The Dow skidded as much as 800 points on Monday before finishing with a loss of 370.

Broader indexes also fell. The S&P 500 index declined 60.66, or 5.74 percent, to 996.23, the first close below the 1,000 mark since September 2003. The Nasdaq composite index fell 108.08, or 5.80 percent, to 1,754.88.

The dollar was mostly lower against other major currencies, while gold prices rose.

Oil prices rebounded after plunging Monday to an eight-month low on concerns a global recession will undermine demand for crude. Light, sweet crude rose $2.25 to settle at $90.06 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Concerns about the credit markets still fed demand for the relative safety of government debt, though pressures eased. The yield on the three-month Treasury bill, which moves opposite its price, rebounded to 0.81 percent from 0.50 percent late Monday. Demand for short-term Treasurys remains high because of their safety; investors are willing to take extremely low returns just to have their money in a secure place.

Some investors moved out of longer-term Treasury bonds, which don't draw as much demand as shorter-term debt in times of fear. The yield on the 10-year note rose to 3.51 percent from 3.45 percent late Monday.

Investors are still hoping to see other moves from the Fed to boost confidence. Australia's central bank lowered interest rates by the largest amount since 1992 in a surprise move, and that reignited hopes that others, including the Fed and European Central Bank, might follow suit.

Though not giving the market a rate cut, the Fed has taken other steps to help unclog the credit markets. On Tuesday, policymakers provided more details about when it will make $900 billion in short-term loans available to squeezed banks.

The loans are made available to banks through auctions. The Fed, in coordination with other countries' central banks engaged in similar efforts, laid out dates that it will conduct the auctions through the rest of this year.

But write-downs of bad debt at Bank of America are a reminder to investors that troubles within the financial sector remain, according to Kim Caughey, equity research analyst at Fort Pitt Capital Group.

"I think we have weeks of volatility ahead of us," she said. "We're not overly optimistic but we're not indulging in doom and gloom either."

She said the arrival of quarterly results from corporations has made investors even more jittery, with investors seeking any information about how companies are faring. She said some companies could go under because of the tough economic conditions but that the stronger players would survive.

"You're going to get that Darwinian shakeout process. That's going to happen from the mom and pops all the way up to the big boys," she said.

Minutes from the Fed's last meeting described a U.S. economy that was slowing considerably and credit markets that were deteriorating rapidly. The meeting was held Sept. 16, the day after the failure of Lehman Brothers. The central bank's Open Market Committee found the risks from weaker growth and higher inflation were roughly equal; that was its rationale for leaving rates unchanged. Policymakers, who will meet again at the end of the month, left key interest rate unchanged at 2 percent.

About 2,800 stocks declined on the New York Stock Exchange, while fewer than 400 advanced. Consolidated volume came to 6.84 billion shares, compared with 7.81 billion shares traded Monday.

The Russell 2000 index of smaller companies fell 36.96, or 6.20 percent, to 558.95.

Overseas, Japan's Nikkei stock average fell 3.03 percent. Britain's FTSE 100 rose 0.35 percent, Germany's DAX index fell 1.12 percent, and France's CAC-40 rose 0.55 percent.

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NEW YORK — The misery worsened on Wall Street Tuesday, with stocks piling on losses late in the session and bringing the two-day decline in the Dow Jones industrials to more than 875 points amid...
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Not to worry. Goldman-Sachs will still be around after the apocalypse. Them and the cockroaches.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 10/07/2008
- TallGrrl I'm a Fan of TallGrrl 15 fans permalink

So...let me get this straight: McCain doesn't want to talk about the economy...at tonight's..."debate"...thing?? REALLY????
Hmmm...I wonder if it might be because he'd have to talk about his RECORD of trying to deregulate and privitize EVERY bloody thing? He and his buddy Phil (Enron) Gramm?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 10/07/2008
- Sparky123 I'm a Fan of Sparky123 6 fans permalink

Of course not. They are not worried about the economy. The forces behind the scenes are working out their plan to get him elected. Issues play no role in this plan. Fear and unrest will keep Americans freaked out and they will accept the result of a rigged election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 10/07/2008

He won't be able to fall back on his talking points and the scolding grandpa schtick -- these things don't work in a "town hall meeting" format.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14363.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 10/07/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 428 fans permalink
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Don't panic, the best economic minds in the Bush administration are on the job.

On second thought - PANIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 10/07/2008
- Kanashi I'm a Fan of Kanashi 2 fans permalink

lol!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 10/07/2008
- Grannysue I'm a Fan of Grannysue 136 fans permalink
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WERE SCREWED!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 10/07/2008
- wendynyc I'm a Fan of wendynyc 13 fans permalink

These Wall Street types always vote Republican thinking they are supporting the lower taxes and less regulation agenda - they constantly forget - that in the end - they wind up paying much more by losing their entire portfolio!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 10/07/2008
- Sparky123 I'm a Fan of Sparky123 6 fans permalink

My guess. None of these guys are losing anything. The bailout will protect these dudes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 10/07/2008
- iPolitics I'm a Fan of iPolitics 33 fans permalink

McCain: The Fundamentals og the Economy are STRONG

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 10/07/2008
- CactusTom I'm a Fan of CactusTom 34 fans permalink

Somebody has to pay for the billions of dollars that the Bush administration allowed the top one percent to suck out of the economy under their own terms. Now had the average person been willing to let their social security money go into stocks (you know, privatized your nest egg), the movers and shakers would have let things sail along a little longer before pulling the plug on the public’s money.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:17 PM on 10/07/2008

This is just the beginning folks. Credit card defaults are next, followed by car loans.

This started with Reaganomics and the trickle down theory. The folks in the top 2% have accumulated mass amounts of wealth by sending jobs overseas and supporting regulations that drove average Americans into deep debt. With no more money to borrow and nobody to borrow it, there are no more consumers. No more consumers means all companies in every sector are going to nose dive. This is a world wide problem, because we Americans are the major consumers. We buy every piece of crap we can from China, India, Europe, Southeast Asia and Korea. When we stop buying, their markets will dive as well.
The party is over.
Obama must win. We must inject new deal type of government programs to get Americans working and making a decent living. When people start making enough to live on , they will start buying cars and houses and clothes. Hopefully we start making this stuff here. As long as we have free trade agreements, it will be tough. If we make fair trade agreements, we have a chance Fair trade means that countries selling to us, pay the same duties as we do when we sell products to them. Right now every country in the world is getting a free pass courtesy of Republican policies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 10/07/2008

We can hang part of the blame on the beltway Democrats, my friend. It was 1999 when Bob Rubin convinced Bill Clinton (and lobbyists did their part in Congress) to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act and effectively remove some of the legal firewalls that had been in place since the 1930's.

I recall saying to my father-in-law (fellow lifelong Democrat and former officer in a Fortune 500), "My God, they've taken the safeties off. What are they thinking!"

Then there are the derivatives; those quirky financial instruments that are now spreading this crisis like a cancer. Credit default swaps are like insurance with no capital and they are not regulated at all. That's why I have urged my senators and representative to update the regulations to fit today's markets.

I am in middle age and I'm watching my 401k and my kids' college funds melt like candle wax. When will the bleeding stop!?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 10/07/2008
- NicoleAnon I'm a Fan of NicoleAnon 9 fans permalink

And Robert Rubin was from...our favorite bank...Goldman Sachs!

They had to be "saved" with a government bailout the same way there are now. And then in a year they can decide "we don't want to be banking holding company anymore!" and turn into an investment bank again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 10/07/2008
- Sparky123 I'm a Fan of Sparky123 6 fans permalink

Well...maybe McCain has some ideas that will help the economy get out of this mess. But he won't tell us. Wonder why.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 10/07/2008
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we should all protest -- no more purchases no more cars, no more stupid crap from china, korea, malaysia, eastern european countries and the rest of asia - including india and bangladesh. we won't need credit --- we'll use our stupid us dollars and buy only what we need that'll show them. we deserved a 'bail out' this is ridiculous and nobody wants to talk about how all the ib firms have ties to global money managers like abn amro, deutsche bank, and ing. They 're the ones that will reap the benefits of this $1trillion bail out.....not the american people. when will the stupidos supporting that dumb chick from alaska gonna realize -- WE LIVE IN A GLOBAL ECONOMY STUPID!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 10/07/2008
- OB-GYN I'm a Fan of OB-GYN 65 fans permalink
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This is how it happens, isn't it? I equate it to a domino effect-one starts and it just follows along.

There I was happily living my life with my family of four and pets, being frugal enough, no big vacations, careful with big purchases and smaller things like clothes, we didn't eat out much. Thought we were saving through retirement funds and our savings and college accounts.

But now, it's a different day in America. It's going to require great strength and community from all of us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 10/07/2008
- Sparky123 I'm a Fan of Sparky123 6 fans permalink

Grow food instead of lawns and drink cheaper wine. I have been doing that for a while now, but even that isn't helping my tanking retirement pension. HELP!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 10/07/2008
- OB-GYN I'm a Fan of OB-GYN 65 fans permalink
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Sparky, my husband said this morning he's thinking of a vegetable garden again (have to fight the squirrels though) and getting some chickens!

We had chickens when I was a kid, and I always liked gathering the eggs.....

A new time in America!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 10/07/2008
- BethStuart I'm a Fan of BethStuart 13 fans permalink

It is hard to see how the McCain campaign will succeed in distracting voters from the economy but I expect they will keep on trying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 PM on 10/07/2008

THEY ARE HIDING THIS FROM YOU…Wall Street

http://mudflats.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/palin-2006-vetting.pdf

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 10/07/2008
- Sparky123 I'm a Fan of Sparky123 6 fans permalink

I wish one McCain supporter would enlighten me as to what possible reason one might have to support this guy. Just one!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 10/07/2008

My step-dad is voting on character. He doesn't like O because he has had "bad associations" with a terrorist.

To which I responded, just because Jesus hung out with prostitutes didn't make him one. He was not amused.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:00 PM on 10/07/2008
- whoknew--- I'm a Fan of whoknew--- 24 fans permalink

"Fed to buy massive amounts of short-term debt" (JEANNINE AVERSA October 7, 2008 02:56 PM EST

Partial solution to the housing/mortgage crisis?

This is all well and good for the foreclosed homes that has flooded the market now but what about the potentially one in ten, twenty, or even hundred homeowners in every city that is literally on the brink of financial disaster?

If there is nothing done to address potentially future foreclosed homes that banking and financial institutions have on their books right now we’ll be back at square one with handcarts of cash to do the “bailout” strategy again and again.

Perhaps with all the existing foreclosed homes we have here in the US there is a desperate need for an effective formula that is based on a specific area’s salaries, unemployment rate, and location to adjust to a rate that is reasonable with enticements from local municipalities (similar to first time home owner incentives) to get these homes off the market and into the hands of prospective buyers.

This same strategy could be used for all the financially vulnerable homeowners. Obviously this strategy should not be extended to people who bought a home clearly out of the realm of their financial capabilities. All applicants should prove their incomes are capable of adequately handling a mortgage that has been adjusted to the standards listed in the previous paragraph.

Lastly, all these mortgages should be investigated for questionable practices.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 10/07/2008
- Ohg I'm a Fan of Ohg 5 fans permalink

The EPA has just announced that Republicans are being placed on the endangered species list. A National Refuge is being developed in Alaska to protect the Republicans from angry voters. ......................
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/10/07/epa-puts-republicans-on-endangered-species-list/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 10/07/2008

LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 10/07/2008

Someone clue me in...

Wasn't the cost of inaction greater than the cost of action? I don't know which lie to believe anymore...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 10/07/2008
- NicoleAnon I'm a Fan of NicoleAnon 9 fans permalink

Everyone agrees something had to be done but many economists think the bailout won't work and it's also unfair - they had alternatives that wouldn't have used money from taxpayers but Paulson wouldn't even consder another plan.

If banks are going to fail the government needs to TAKE THEM OVER ENTIRELY and give taxpayers equity in the company because that would make wealthy shareholders and investors ACCOUNTABLE for their mistakes the way taxpayers are held ACCOUNTABLE for their mistakes. They have done that in other countries.

What happens if you miss payments on your credit card for a few months? They report you to credit agencies and ruin your credit - you are held ACCOUNTABLE for what you did. This bailout is nothing but transfering money from taxpayers and GIVING it away to people at banks who don't share any of their profits with us. Now Paulson is buying unsecured debt from them including credit cards and auto loans so that money is gone and taxpayers will never get it back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 10/07/2008
- GEM-592 I'm a Fan of GEM-592 7 fans permalink

I don't concede that "something had to be done," and moreover suggest that the only reason anything was done was due to fear of new regulations with the presidency changeover. All these big banks etc. falling one to two months before the election, then the quick passing of the bailout (with one rejection mind you, to make it look good, a little nostalgia for the old folks) is highly suspicious wouldn't you say? I say let them fail, this was the only way to maximize accountability, and I assure you either way the honest investor is going to continue to lose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 10/07/2008
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Sounds like a perfect buying opportunity to me. I'm gonna jump right in and start buying long-term non-perishable food supplies and guns and ammo for when the whole system collapses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 10/07/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 428 fans permalink
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I'm stocking up on hockey masks and crossbows for when we're living in Mad Max.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 10/07/2008
- GEM-592 I'm a Fan of GEM-592 7 fans permalink

Yes, canned food and shotguns - the wave of the future - and shopping carts with machine gun turrets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 10/07/2008
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Did anybody catch GWB's "speech" to the Office Depot gang this morning? He's a joke and it's not funny any more. During the Q and A afterward, I noticed everybody praised his "leadership" and essentially "kissed his a**". I'm guessing there were no journalists allowed in the building. The market fell about 450 points immediately AFTER his warm economic message.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 10/07/2008
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