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Who Won The Debate? Clean Sweep For Obama


First Posted: 10- 7-08 11:11 PM   |   Updated: 11- 7-08 05:12 AM

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The insta-polls, which provide viewers with a somewhat skewed but important insight into how each candidate fared say, by and large, that Obama scored a victory in the second debate.

NBC's focus group of undecided Pennsylvania voters had the Illinois Democrat winning by roughly a 60-40 split. Frank Luntz's focus group, over at Fox, showed undecided voters leaning towards Obama because of his position on health care. CBS's focus group of independents had the Democratic nominee winning the debate at 39 percent to McCain's 27 percent, with 35 percent of the respondents saying it was a tie. Greenberg Quinlan Rosner, a Democratic polling firm, had a focus group of undecideds leaning to Obama by a margin of 42 percent to 24 percent.

Meanwhile, SurveyUSA interviewed 741 debate watchers in the state of Washington, 54 percent of whom thought Obama was the "clear winner" compared with McCain's 29 percent. That same polling firm had the first debate as a tie. In tonight's survey: 42 percent of respondents said McCain was too forceful.

And the CNN focus group of undecided voters in Ohio had the margin at an even wider spread: Obama 54 percent to McCain's 30.

A look at some of the specific issues that these Ohio voters valued suggest that they prefer the candidate who, at least on the surface, appears less on the attack. When Obama discussed health care as a right for all Americans, his numbers were through the roof. At one point, female respondents were dialing in at 100 percent approval. When he talked about using diplomacy in Darfur and pursuing Bin Laden in Pakistan, he again enjoyed strongly enthusiastic responses.

McCain had his moments too, mostly when he was discussing economic matters and propping up businesses to turn around the economy. His low points came when he was on the attack. On MSNBC, Nora O'Donnell charted how independent voters and Democrats soured on McCain when he said that figuring out Obama's tax policy was like nailing Jell-O to a wall.

How solid was the consensus that Obama scored better tonight? Even Bill Bennett, ever the Republican optimist, conceded that the Illinois Democrat scored higher marks.

"I confess I so much admire McCain, but I just don't think the campaign is equal to the story,' he said. "I just don't think it's equal to the man, it hasn't been. ... We needed a breakthrough, talking about the economy. I think he was a little better than last time, but he didn't break through enough, and he's behind. So it just wasn't good enough for McCain in terms of what it had to be."

The insta-polls, which provide viewers with a somewhat skewed but important insight into how each candidate fared say, by and large, that Obama scored a victory in the second debate. NBC's focus grou...
The insta-polls, which provide viewers with a somewhat skewed but important insight into how each candidate fared say, by and large, that Obama scored a victory in the second debate. NBC's focus grou...
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04:25 PM on 10/15/2008
ritanewyork links are VIRUSES
12:30 PM on 10/14/2008
When McCain said the word “goodies” during the second debate, he reminded me of a cross between Gollum from Lord of the Rings and that demented clown from the Stephen King’s It. McCain uses the same tone with the word “goodies” that Gollum uses when he says “my precious”. Listen to him again, it’s very eerie sounding.
05:09 PM on 10/13/2008
Did Obama Invented Computer ????

In 2000 election campaign Al Gore was unfairly treated for his wrongly attributed claim of inventing the internet.

Life seems to have come a full circle. Now Barack Obama, in his NASHVILLE, Tennessee debate, has claimed that "US Defense scientists invented computer". It appears Mr. Obama meant internet. His exact words "computer was originally invented by a bunch of government scientists who were trying to figure out, for defense purposes, how to communicate"

Firstly, Obama campaign targeted McCain for being behind in technology (can’t email) but they did not bother to educate their candidate that computer and internet are two different things. It reminds me of Dilbert's pointy haired boss , who asks him to "download the internet." America, be prepared to accept more of these from future President of USA.

Secondly, US Defense Department implemented and built the back bone of world wide web. Tim Berners-Lee, a UK citizen, invented the World Wide Web, while working in CERN, Switzerland, in mid 80’s, and for this great achievement, was knighted (KBE) by Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II during an Investiture in London on Friday, 16 July 2004.

By the way, computer (abacus) was invented by the Chinese, much before US Defense Department came into existence.

Surprisingly, Obama seems to have got away with this gaffe. Actually , McCain camp's performance is so poor in this regard that Obama will get away even if he claims to invent the computer, himself.
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07:37 PM on 10/10/2008
Rolling Stones Mag. - Make-Believe Maverick
A closer look at the life and career of John McCain reveals a disturbing record of recklessness and dishonesty

By TIM DICKINSON Posted Oct 16, 2008

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
05:27 PM on 10/10/2008
hysterical sarah palin video!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1exiyBYnJ00
10:25 PM on 10/09/2008
Vote in our "McCain's Worst moment" Poll:
http://www.4yourwebsite.com/election2008/mccains-worst-moment-poll.php
09:15 PM on 10/09/2008
Is it about winning? The debates are an opportunity for the candidates to express their views and detail their differences. If they both speak well and put forth their ideas, then don't they both win? In my opinion, the second debate was really bad. I didn't hear anything from either candidate that made me think I should vote for either of them. In that regard, they both lost.
12:20 AM on 10/10/2008
Yes, it is about winning. It means you communicated your ideas better to the public, people saw you as more Presidential, and they agreed with the majority of your positions.

If you do that, you stand a much better chance of winning the election and becoming the next President.

Of course it's about winning.
02:22 AM on 10/12/2008
I agree in part. We have two candidates who disagree on many of the issues. They communicate predominantly to their base and try to "win" the undecided voters. if it is ALL about winning though, then why not just tell people what they want to hear and forget about what the platform actually is?
04:18 PM on 10/13/2008
Neither candiate gave me what I needed to make a decision. And, I'd like to have answers to these very importatn questions about Obama:

1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- 'not available'
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- 'not available'
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13. Record of Baptism -- Not released or 'not available'
14. Your Illinois State Senate records -- 'not available'

Why is none of this information available? Not knowing this cause a lot of distrust in the man.
07:45 PM on 10/09/2008
What is a true/real hero? Is there such a manifestation? What purpose does this symbol serve in our psychology as a nation?
It's clear that JM belives he that himself is a hero. He wants americans to believe too. He markets this symbol to achieve power. This is not an act of a true hero. True heros are not seen..........
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Don't hate me cause I'm beautiful.
01:36 PM on 10/15/2008
Marked as stupid comment.
07:21 PM on 10/09/2008
Some Americans are really dumb if they are voting for a man who came out of nowhere and got most of his money for his campaign from a former CEO of Fannie Mae. Who are you fooling he is a person who gets his campaign money from terrorists also. If he is elected you all will find out you made a big mistake in believing a word that one said. You will be kicking yourself and thinking how stupid could I have been. McCain is the right one he fought for our country what did that one do?? He has been in the senate for almost 29 yrs. compare to just two yrs for Nobama and he got his campaign money the right way compare to Nobama that got his from the former CEO of Fannie Mae. We people who vote for McCain know what a great guys he is and will stand by McCain and Palin all the way to the white house.
07:54 PM on 10/09/2008
Well in case you haven't noticed McBush has been in the senate for almost 30 years but what has he really done other than contribute to the failing economy with his quest to have the banks deregulated. If you along with the rest of the economy has taken a lost, you can thank your hero McBush. McBush also has a lack of judgement because although he is a war hero which is great he is ignorant when it comes to the economy (he acknowledged this publicly, along with his statement that the economy is fundamentally strong- oops, WRONG AGAIN). Don't be upset because Obama who is fairly new to Washington was able to convince his party along with the rest of the world that he is capable of running for President. It must mean something to be a Harvard graduate, a Community Activist, Civil Rights lawyer and Senator. When he's elected and your man, McBush is not you can thank him for being so OUT OF TOUCH ON THE THINGS THAT MATTER, PICKING A VICE PRESIDENT CANDIDATE WITH THE "EENY MEANY MINEY MOE "APPROACH AND FAILING TO RUN A CAMPAIGN BUILT ON SUBSTANCE. Obama can't help it if he's running a more efficient campaign and is subsequently able to raise more money than your guy.
12:37 AM on 10/10/2008
Actually, McCain was not in the Senate those 29 years. 8 of those years were as a member of the House of Representatives. Former Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines hasn't donated a dime to Obama (go to fundrace.org and search his name). You got that from a McCain smear ad. Raines has no role at all in the Obama campaign. Obama's "ties" to terrorists were serving on a board of an education group with William Ayers. The board also included Republicans and former Reagan administration officials. Ayers was a college professor at the time, not a terrorist. Do you do backround checks on the people you work with? If one of them had a radical past, does that mean you are "tied to terrorists"? Go to wikipedia and search Rick Davis. He's McCain's campaign manager, and was a lobbyist for Fannie Mae until just last month.

Do you know why most people support term limits for politicians? It's because the longer you stay in Washington, the more likely you are to be corrupted. That's exactly what has happened to John McCain. Speaking of experience, McCain is also 72 years old and has had cancer 4 times now. God forbid he doesn't make it through his first term, do you really feel safe with Sarah Palin as our Vice President? Her total "foreign policy" experience consists of a total of 12 hours meeting with foreign officials, most of which were tours at an ice festival.
06:04 PM on 10/09/2008
i saw it and i thought John McCain won. How come i can't ever vote on the CNN polls. tell me where to vote and i will. I have never seen a senator stammer as much as Barack. HIs favorite line is I agree with Senator McCain. Go watch the first debate again. I agree with Senator McCain - he said it about 8 times.
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06:15 PM on 10/09/2008
JM only said "my friends" 22 times! What you have to try to get used to is someone who actually thinks before he speaks. I know it's not usual for repugs, who never seem to engage of thinking of any kind. JM just blurts things out - doubt anything passes through his brain. Go vote at drudge - that's where your compatriots are.
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bonchesva
06:52 PM on 10/09/2008
Oh, so you're saying that Obama should be rude, like John McCain and never acknowledge any good in the man.....that's what McCain does to Obama! He's a rude and arragont, never looking at Barack Obama one time during the first debate. I am sure he will do the same at the last debate since it will be the same format.
11:44 AM on 10/09/2008
The reality is McCain is a very, very stupid man. He loves imbecilic interventions, wars, invasions -- whatever you want to call them. Too bad he wasn't around in the time of Custer. He would have had a ball particpating in Custer's last stand.
10:18 AM on 10/09/2008
Will Obama's recently revealed half-man half-bat half-brother, Obatma, sway voters?

"Obatma shares my DNA and will be uniquely qualified to understand some of the difficult issues facing mutants in this country and around the world."

http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/election-08/obatma/
07:03 AM on 10/09/2008
And I forgot to say THAT ONE DID NOT WIN DEBATE !!!! McCain and Palin all the way!!! Where ever they get these poll numbers they are really not correct. Just because Hollywood wants Obama well if they want him so bad they can have him. I will take McCain and Palin anyday over them or that one!!!!!
09:09 AM on 10/09/2008
Denial will get you nowhere. Facts are facts.
09:11 AM on 10/09/2008
Hahaaha another desperate remark from the LOSERS! YES MC CAIN AND PALIN ALL THE WAY>>>DOWN... :-P SORRY FOLKS THAT ONE IS THE ONE!
OBAMA IS THE MAN!!!!

WE WILL WE WILL BARRACK YOU!!!
Johnny you're an old man
yer med's are kickin'
and Palin's freakin'
slap THAT ONE on your face
YOU BIG DISGRACE
GO WAVE YOUR WHITE BANNER ALL OVER THE PLACE!!!
SING IT!
WE WILL WE WILL BARRACK YOU! sing it--
WE WILL BIDEN - BARRACK YOU!
:-P
09:29 AM on 10/09/2008
somebody should actually record something along these lines, I'd do it if I could find the instrumental .
06:50 AM on 10/09/2008
Nobama did not win by any way. I am a McCain supporter and Obama is a nobody that came into view about two yrs ago and has no experience whatsoever and people want him to lead this country. Leads us where into disaster. Are the people of our great country crazy. People like Obama can't run states as governors or mayors without getting into trouble and now you want to elect one as president???? What is wrong with this country. I can't understand why people are backing this man. He is a nobody and somebody has to get the word out about this man how he will ruin this great country. McCain is a man that fought for this country and has a dream for this country and you are treating him like he is the enemy. He is not Obama is and I hate to see this. Obama will never be my president even if he wins he is not the type of person we need. We need someone to get us on the right track not someone who will put us in a ditch that we can't get out of.
07:42 AM on 10/09/2008
"Obama will never be my president." Hmmm...then guess you're planning on gaining citizenship in another country!!!! LOL You people are laughable...especially if you think Mc and Silly Sarah can do anything more but rant and rave and LIE like there's no tomorrow...but what you're not getting is that the greatest majority of people in this country are paying absolutely NO attention to either of them...why would they...they have no plans for our future, except to further divide us and that's not gonna happen!!!

So you go pack your bags, apply for that passport...and have a good life...OUTSIDE of the USA. The rest of us are taking our country back from 8 years of total chaos and mismanagement!!! See ya!!! LOL
09:23 AM on 10/09/2008
STARFIRE is my hero! =)

Pack your bags and your bible and get to moving because Obama is going to be next president, you don't like it....LEAVE!!!!

In fairness though, should Mccain/Palin STEAL this election, I am seriously considering moving to Canada because it will definitely show a lot about this country.
12:50 PM on 10/09/2008
Why should the President or the goverment have a plan for YOUR future. Shouldn't you have a plan of your own.

Get off the entitlement chair, and start managing your own life.

McCain/Palin will win because the majority of people in this country understand that you don't depend on others. The people that continues to ask what will he/she do for me are the ones that is perpetuating their own problems economically and socially.
09:22 AM on 10/09/2008
Oh yea, what was up with the "THAT ONE" comment?? Or the fact he couldn't even shake Obama's hand after the debate???? Sounds like a SORE LOSER to me and you would really want somebody like that in office?? Even KARL ROVE of all people said Mccain has gone too far in his campaign attacks...KARL ROVE! That is a new low....And to top Mccain's campaign gaffes off....He picked the WORST VP candidate in history!! Talk about "great" judgment there....It was obviously a political move and if you believe Sarah Palin is ready to lead this country, I want whatever drugs you're on. She is a political TOOL more than anything else, and yet, should they win the election, she's a 72 year old heartbeat away from being president....Like somebody on CNN said "If that doesn't scare the hell outta you, I don't know what will"
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10:11 PM on 10/08/2008
GNATI HAS POSTED A LINK TO A VIRUS.

DO NOT CLICK THE LINK, AND PLEASE FLAG AS ABUSIVE.
06:20 AM on 10/09/2008
No, it's just a link to a moronic wordpress blog. False alert.