GE Profit Falls 22 Percent

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STEPHEN SINGER | October 10, 2008 07:28 PM EST | AP

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HARTFORD, Conn. — General Electric Co. spared investors any nasty surprises as it reported a 22 percent drop in third-quarter earnings on Friday, meeting its own lowered forecast and blaming the decline on its struggling finance arm. The company's loan and lease business has been hammered by the worst financial crisis since the 1929 stock market crash.

GE, which also makes everything from jet engines to water treatment systems and owns NBC Universal, reported net income of $4.3 billion, or 43 cents per share. Sales rose 11 percent to $47.23 billion.

A year earlier, the company earned $5.56 billion, or 54 cents.

The Fairfield, Conn.-based company has cited softening profits at GE Capital, which provides financing ranging from consumer car loans to energy project lending. Since the spring, troubled credit markets and waning confidence in global financial systems have cut into profits there. GE has lowered its 2008 earnings forecast twice since April, announced a reorganization and raised capital through the sale of $15 billion in stock, including $3 billion in preferred shares to Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Inc.

Analyst Nicholas Heymann of Sterne Agee in New York said investors are nervous that GE may lower its full-year forecast again.

"Investors are saying. 'We see two adjustments before we get into rough seas. How many are we going to see when we're in rough seas?'"

Heymann cut his 2009 earnings estimate to $1.85 from $2 and reduced his six-to-12 month price target to $17 from $20. His 2008 forecast remains at $2.

Shares of GE rose $2.49, or 13.1 percent, to $21.50 Friday as the broader market swung wildly. GE is down by 42 percent since April 10, the day before GE shocked investors by widely missing its target for the first quarter.

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The latest results, the third straight quarter of diminishing profits, were dragged down by a 33 percent decline in profit at GE Capital and an 82 percent drop in profit at GE's consumer and industrial unit, which makes appliances and other products. GE plans to spin off or sell that unit.

GE remains on track to meet its 2008 earnings forecast, which it lowered by about 10 percent last month to between $19.5 billion and $21 billion. GE Capital is on track to earn more than $9 billion for the year, it said.

Citigroup analyst Jeffrey Sprague told investors in a note Friday that while GE has "some outstanding assets and a solid AAA balance sheet," its operating performance is uneven and its finance portfolio is risky.

"We believe GE may have reached the point that its size and complexity have become a hindrance to effective management," Sprague said, although he maintained his "Hold" rating on GE, citing good cash flow and a high dividend yield among its strengths.

Peter Klein, senior portfolio manager at Fifth Third Asset Management in Cleveland, said GE under Chief Executive Officer Jeff Immelt is doing relatively well in bad times.

"They're saying things are going to be slower, but they hit their plan," he said.

Peter Sorrentino, senior portfolio manager at Huntington Asset Advisors in Cincinnati, said Immelt is doing well with the exception of a poorly performing health care business, where profit fell 8 percent to $634 million in the quarter.

Sorrentino said he cannot say that Immelt has "absolutely got it, he's nailed it," but "erecting the gallows, I'm not there yet, either."

GE's huge industrial business remained solid. GE expects growth to continue, helped by strong orders in its infrastructure business, which makes water treatment plants, energy projects and other large-scale items. GE's total orders backlog stands at $170 billion, up 20 percent from last year.

Immelt highlighted GE's energy business, which makes gas and wind turbines. The sector earned $1.4 billion in the quarter, up 31 percent. At NBC Universal, which benefited from its Olympics coverage in Beijing in August, profits totaled $645 million, up 10 percent from a year earlier. Aviation

Some analysts have said GE should sell NBC because it does not fit the company's industrial and commercial business mix. However, Immelt has defended the media franchise, and its performance _ particularly in comparison with GE's faltering financial business.

"Cable and films had a solid quarter and the success of the Beijing Olympics showed the value of the network model," he said.

Immelt said GE has taken steps to reduce its leverage and improve liquidity to protect the top AAA rating on its bonds.

Earlier this month, GE raised $12 billion in a common stock offering and $3 billion from preferred shares sold to Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway Inc. However, the preferred stock carries a costly 10 percent dividend.

Last month, GE lowered its third quarter forecast to between 43 cents and 48 cents per share from its prior range of 50 cents to 54 cents.

General Electric ended the quarter with $88 billion in commercial paper, a type of debt that big U.S. corporations sell to get short-term cash, often to maintain inventories and payrolls. The trillion-dollar market for these crucial short-term IOUs is under strain, with outstanding issues falling for the fourth straight week as of Oct. 8, and down 30 percent from the summer of 2007.

GE Chief Financial Officer Keith Sherin told investor analysts in a conference call Friday that GE will reduce commercial paper to $80 billion by the end of the year.

At quarter's end, the company had $88 billion in commercial paper, down from $100 billion earlier this year, GE said.

"We have had no problems with our own (commercial paper), but I think we have just taken this issue off the table for investors," Immelt told analysts Friday.

The $15 billion of recent stock sales "gives us more cash, and now the backup lines plus cash are greater than (commercial paper)," Immelt said.

HARTFORD, Conn. — General Electric Co. spared investors any nasty surprises as it reported a 22 percent drop in third-quarter earnings on Friday, meeting its own lowered forecast and blaming the...
HARTFORD, Conn. — General Electric Co. spared investors any nasty surprises as it reported a 22 percent drop in third-quarter earnings on Friday, meeting its own lowered forecast and blaming the...
 
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Well, instead of laying off 10% of their employees every year, maybe they can over-achieve this year!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 10/10/2008

Bill O'Reilly will probably take credit for G.E.s loss.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 10/10/2008

My dad always said "stick to your knitting."

Throughout life I've watched company after company get what my grandma would have called "too big for their britches" -- buying and merging and thinking they're smart enough to run ANY business in any sector.

Think. Again.

It's sad -- GE made the greatest appliances. They were an icon brand.

Then the big britches syndrome hit. Let's be a media company -- WOW, that's SO COOL and we can rub elbows with moo-vee and tee-vee stars.

Let's get into health care because God knows, THAT's an easy, uncomplicated sector where we can figure it out in a hurry and make lots of money.

As. If.

Just gotta sit here and laugh at Immelt and Welch's monumental egos . . . . and cry for the stupid people who bought their stock. Stick with companies that do what they have always done and do it well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 10/10/2008

Defense contractors have no business owning media companies. And Congresscritters have no business being in Congress and married to defense contractors. And people wonder why our country is in the crapper. It ain't all Dubya's fault! I blame media deregulation before anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 10/10/2008

you made your bed in china on slave labor ... now you have to (lie) in it ...oh you poor poor billionaires

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 10/10/2008
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Don't worry GE, we will find a war for you soon, profits will soar as soon as the blood is spilled again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 10/10/2008
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You are now allowed to panic. GE is the gold standard of capitalism, for them to post that large of a loss is crushing news.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 10/10/2008

I have vision, after Obama is President, that R. M and K. O. will either be reporting from the White House or there will be a new American network that is fair and balance with a mission to raise the consciousness of Americans, that they along with the others who do not lie or try to keep Americans suppressed. It would be great to do away with NBC, MCNBC, Newsweek GE and many more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 10/10/2008

...I sure hope jack welsh keeps his retirement!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 10/10/2008

...my profits fell into negative territory 3-years ago. Should I write a H.P. article concerning my downturn?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 10/10/2008
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Their cable station, MSNBC, is still going way, way up in the ratings, thanks to Olbermann & Maddow. Looks like putting in a progressive viewpoint is one of the few investments they have that is paying off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 10/10/2008
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Fine by me. They are a big war profiteer. I'm doing my part, though. We dumped satellite (which funds GE big-time through NBC, etc.), put up an antenna, and get EVERY single show we like through the Internet, which is wired to the TV via a computer. And no commercials. We dumped the phone and went to Vonage. We dumped the cell phone for Virgin's $7 a month plan. We built a solar water heater and are working on underground AC/heating right now. What gets me fired up is that none of this costs all that much to do, nor is it very difficult to do. Oh, and you don't miss the old life!

My family is not bleeding $300+ every month anymore, and that number is conservative.

Did I mention we DON'T shop at Wal-Mart?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 10/10/2008
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Good for you.

You wonder how many "necessities" we can easily do without.

1. Cell phone.

Anyone else?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 10/10/2008

Our goal should be to go back to the agrarian world and have a lifespan of not more than 50 years. That way Social Security would and Medicare would thrive. No need to wait too long for Granny and Pappa to kick off before we inherit their property. And we should all get married soon as our female cousins get their periods.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 10/10/2008
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This will be the lede story on O'Reilly Factor .
GE own MSNBC.

His squinty bead little eyes will dart back and forth like a shark dining on a seal.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 10/10/2008
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his issues are not nearly as much with pmsnbc as they are with the fact that either directly or through proxies, GE has been doing business with iran, a rouge nation intent on destroying the US and Israel.

pmsnbc is a sideshow in the jeffery immelt circus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 10/10/2008

Is "blue chip" now a meaningless term?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 10/10/2008

Jack Donaghy must get to the bottom of this!

showering with Greta Van Susteren, inventing the Trivection oven; the Vice President of East Coast Television and Microwave Oven Programming, only Donaghy can right this sinking ship of state.

We all knew G.W. Bush was the worst president ever, but now his legacy will not escape his remaining supporters, the entire GOP, and any current or future hagiographers.

Let's kick McCain out of the senate and find a suitable job for Sarah Palin.

I hear the WNBA needs a head cheerleading coach, Sarah.

Maybe the winning applicant for that job will let you fetch her clipboard?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 10/10/2008
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what do bush, mccain, and palin have to do with the fact that immelt has steadily been running an extremely profitable business into the ground?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 10/10/2008

GE's troubles are a direct consequence of the faltering economy

Bush has been at the helm for almost 8 years and McCain and Palin would seek only to continue the failed economic policies of the last 8 years.

Happy to provide some simple guidance for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAyK-enrF1g

You have facts about Immelt's running of GE? Please spare me the Jack Welch comparisons and provide some empirical evidence of his "running an extremely profitable business into the ground."

I'll wait.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 10/10/2008
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Oh, John... no! You said "head" and "Sarah" in the same sentence. Now I'm really not feeling well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 10/10/2008

That is indeed a nauseating combo. Sorry!

Just picture Sarah in the pinstripes of a Federal lockup uniform to erase that image.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 10/10/2008
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