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TIM PARADIS | October 10, 2008 07:48 PM EST | AP

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Traders work on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, Friday, Oct. 10, 2008. Wall Street capped its worst week ever with a wild session Friday that saw the Dow Jones industrials rocket within a 1,000 point range before closing with a relatively mild loss and the Nasdaq composite index actually end with a modest advance. (AP Photo/Richard Drew)

NEW YORK — Wall Street capped one of its worst weeks ever with a wild session Friday that saw the Dow Jones industrials gyrate within a 1,000 point range before closing with a relatively mild loss and the Nasdaq composite index actually ending with a modest advance. Investors were still agonizing over frozen credit markets, but seven days of massive losses and the possibility of further government support for the markets tempted some investors late in the session.

The Dow lost 128 points, giving the blue chips an eight-day loss of just under 2,400, or 22.1 percent. The average had its worst week on record in both point and percentage terms. The Standard & Poor's 500 index, the indicator most watched by market professionals, posted its worst weekly run since 1933.

The latest loss also means the Dow is down 40.3 percent since reaching a record high close of 14,164.53 a year ago, on Oct. 9, 2007. The S&P 500, which reached its high of 1,565.15 the same day, is down 42.5 percent.

Investors suffered a paper loss for the day of about $100 billion, as measured by the Dow Jones Wilshire 5000 index. For the week, investors lost $2.4 trillion, and over the past year, the losses have piled up to $8.4 trillion.

But there were signs Friday that some investors believe the market is near a bottom. On Thursday, selling accelerated in the last hour of trading. The Dow was down 221 points at 3 p.m. but closed down 679 points an hour later. On Friday, the Dow was down 468 points at 3 but rocketed 790 points and was up 322 points just after 3:30. It then sold off but closed down only 128.

And the Russell 2000 index, which tracks the movements of smaller company stocks, had a 4.66 percent gain Friday; small-cap stocks are often first on investors' shopping lists when they think a market turnaround is at hand.

"Nobody wants to miss the bottom," said Anton Schutz, president of Mendon Capital Advisors, who said of the Dow's performance, "I view it as a victory that we only finished down 100."

Some investors may have been placing bets ahead of the weekend meeting of officials from the Group of Seven nations, who gathered in Washington to discuss the economic meltdown. One of the potential remedies expected to be reviewed at the meeting is for governments to guarantee lending among banks.

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"Everyone is hoping for really good news that can invigorate some buying and break this credit freeze, but your guess is as good as mine as to whether that will happen. I think people are desperate for action," said Jon Biele, head of capital markets at Cowen & Co. "It truly is remarkable to watch what's happening."

Still, Friday's widely mixed finish was proof that Wall Street still has a long list of troubles, and trading is likely to remain volatile when the market reopens on Monday.

"This kind of volatility in the market tells you that there are huge disagreements among investors about what the fundamentals are, about what the outlook is," said Ethan Harris, managing director and chief U.S. economist at Barclays PLC.

The hair-trigger mentality of the market _ a reflection of the intense anxiety on the Street _ was evident from the opening bell. The Dow fell 696 points in the first 15 minutes, recovered to gain more than 100 before that first hour was over and then turned sharply lower again. It spent much of the session with a deficit between 300 points and 500 points, regaining some ground and then falling again _ until the last hour, when the average had swings spanning hundreds of points that took the Dow up as much as 322.

Investors have shuddered the past month over a credit market that remains frozen, posing a threat to the economy by making it harder and costlier for businesses and consumers to get a loan. But Friday's gainers included financial stocks, the ones most decimated by the credit crisis.

Harris said policymakers likely will continue to do what is needed to revive the credit markets. Actions taken so far by central banks, among them the Federal Reserve, have included increased lending and interest rate cuts.

"The deeper problem is not the stock market drop but the freezing up of the credit markets and that's the root problem and they have to keep applying the antifreeze until it works," Harris said.

The major indexes' sharp swings Friday were likely exacerbated by the computer-driven "buy" and "sell" orders that kicked in when prices fell far enough.

"Fear has been running rampant all over the Street. Fear and greed, that's what rules the Street. I think the carcass has been stripped to the bone," said Dave Henderson, a floor trader on the New York Stock Exchange for Raven Securities Corp. "The mood, it swings with the market. When we went positive, the euphoria down there was awesome. It's like at a football game."

The Dow fell 128.00, or 1.49 percent, to 8,451.49. At its low point Friday, the Dow was down 696.68 at 7,882.51, some 600 points above its low in Wall Street's last bear market, 7,286.27, reached Oct. 9, 2002. It crossed the line between gains and losses 32 times during the session.

Its close was the lowest since April 25, 2003.

Market index stats again told how horrific the run has been on Wall Street:

_ The Dow lost 1,874.19 points, or 18.2 percent, during the week. Its dismal performance outdid the week that ended July 22, 1933, which saw a 17 percent drop _ and back then, during the Great Depression, there were six trading days in a week.

_ The Dow has fallen for eight straight sessions _ the longest losing streak since the eight days of declines following the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, when the blue chips lost 1,038.12, or 10.8 percent.

_ It's been the worst run for the Dow since the nearly two-year bear market that ended in December 1974 when the Dow lost 45 percent.

_ Since hitting their record highs a year ago, the Dow has lost 5,713 points, or 40.3 percent, while the S&P 500 is off 665.90 points, or 42.5 percent.

Beyond the Dow, broader stock indicators were mixed Friday.

The S&P 500 index fell 10.70 or 1.18 percent, to 899.22. The 18.2 percent drop for the week was the S&P's steepest decline since the week ending May 21, 1933; its worst loss was in 1929, when it fell 19.9 percent. The index lost 200.01 points for the week.

The Nasdaq composite index rose 4.39, or 0.27 percent, to 1,649.51. For the week, the Nasdaq lost 297.88, or 15.3 percent.

The Russell 2000 rose 23.28, or 4.66 percent, to 522.48. For the week, the Russell fell 96.92, or 15.64 percent.

Decliners led advancers 2-to-1 on the New York Stock Exhange, where consolidated volume came to a record 11.2 billion shares, compared with 8.14 billion traded Thursday.

Most major central banks around the world slashed interest rates this week after continuing problems in the credit market triggered concerns that banks will run out of money. Analysts have described the mood on trading floors this week as panicked at times, with investors bailing out of investments on fears there is no end in sight to the financial carnage.

A stream of selling forced exchanges in Austria, Russia and Indonesia to suspend trading, and those that remained opened were hammered. The rout in Australian markets caused traders there to call it "Black Friday."

European stocks sank Friday, with Britain's FTSE-100 falling 8.85 percent, German's DAX declining 7.01 percent, and France's CAC-40 ending down 7.73 percent. In Asia, the collapse of Japan's Yamato Life Insurance caused already nervous investors to pull even more money out of the market _ the Nikkei 225 fell 9.6 percent.

An index considered to be Wall Street's fear gauge reached record highs on Friday in another sign of massive investor anxiety. The Chicago Board Options Exchange Volatility Index, known as the VIX, rose to an all-time intraday high of 76.94 Friday. The VIX, which usually trades under 50, tracks options activity for the companies that make up the S&P 500.

Still, prospects of further government help and, perhaps, attractive prices helped parts of the financial sector show signs of life. Big national banks were among the gainers, including Bank of America Corp., which rose $1.24, or 6.3 percent, to $20.87. Some smaller banks also rose, including Fifth Third Bank Corp., which advanced 67 cents, or 6.9 percent, to $10.40.

Not all financials enjoyed a bounce, however. Morgan Stanley Inc. fell $2.77, or 22 percent, to $9.68 as investors worried that even with a major investment from Japan's Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group the company was still facing troubles. Meanwhile, Goldman Sachs Group Inc. fell $12.55, or 12 percent, to $88.80.

Financials were most prominent among the stocks that rose in the S&P 500, though technology stocks generally advanced. Apple Inc. rose $8.06, or 9.1 percent, to $96.80, while eBay Inc. rose 77 cents, or 4.8 percent, to $16.73.

Investors appeared unfazed by final results arriving in afternoon trading from an auction Friday that set the price of debt issued by now bankrupt Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. at 8.625 cents on the dollar, down from a preliminary estimate of 9.75 cents.

The auction was for credit default swaps, which are contracts used to insure against the default of financial instruments like bonds and corporate debt. Traded in a $60 trillion, unregulated market, many of the instruments have fallen sharply because of their ties to bad mortgage debt. Those big losses and nervousness about who holds what CDS has made financial institutions hesitant to lend to one another. The auction could help the market determine which companies are most at risk from CDS losses.

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AP Business Writers Joe Bel Bruno, Sara Lepro, Madlen Read and Dan Strumpf in New York contributed to this report.

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- Sugar78 I'm a Fan of Sugar78 7 fans permalink

Friday, October 10
Race (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread
National Gallup Tracking Obama 51, McCain 41 Obama +10
National Rasmussen Tracking Obama 50, McCain 45 Obama +5
National Hotline/FD Tracking Obama 48, McCain 41 Obama +7
National Reuters/CSpan/Zogby Tracking Obama 48, McCain 43 Obama +5
National GW/Battleground Tracking Obama 51, McCain 43 Obama +8
Ohio Strategic Vision (R) Obama 48, McCain 46 Obama +2
Florida Strategic Vision (R) Obama 52, McCain 44 Obama +8
Wisconsin Research 2000 Obama 51, McCain 41 Obama +10
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 10/10/2008
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 317 fans permalink

Not enough of a lead yet. Obama will get 5% less than in the polls.

Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 PM on 10/10/2008
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 332 fans permalink
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And it's not only Obama's polls, which are getting better by the day, but the Senate-polls, too.

A filibuster-proof 60/40 majority for Democrats in the Senate is within reach, at last.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

BTW: Win percentage today:

Obama 90.7 percent

McCain 9.3 percent

Meaning: The odds for Obama to win this election are 10 : 1, actually!

Yes, we can!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 10/10/2008
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Yes, we can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 10/10/2008
- ROBOT8 I'm a Fan of ROBOT8 22 fans permalink

FAILING ECONOMIES TEND TOWARDS VIOLENCE AND HOSTILITY AND CORRUPTION include- suicide, road rage .......right to bear arms ........ border fences......media misinformation,we've betrayed our neighbors and blamed them for our problems......that border fence locks us in as well as locks us out.it is so affordable to live in mexico .........due to the lack of revenue going back to mexico via farmhands and laborers in the u.s. now they are forced to crime in mexico which may spread to the united states. and those americans who wish to live in mexico to save money will be in danger on both sides of the border................AMERICA IS NOT SAFER FOR THE BORDER FENCE AMERICA IS ON LOCK DOWN ......... statistically crime goes up as economy goes down .......a positive attitude is one thing ........ survival is another ,,,,,,,,be alert .......watch your back ............. most of all..........USE SOME COMMON SENSE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 10/10/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Is that the Lou Dobbs-bot?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 10/10/2008
- Tom Joad I'm a Fan of Tom Joad 316 fans permalink
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that fence isn't meant to keep Mexicans out. It's meant to keep Americans in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 10/10/2008
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My friends,I know how to fix the economy.

I know how to capture OBL.

I know how to win w@rs.

I have chosen to to suspend my knowledge on these important issues until I am elected.

When I am elected,then and only then,my fellow prisoners,will I unleash my inner maverick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 10/10/2008
- HopeGirl I'm a Fan of HopeGirl 25 fans permalink

UMMM if he knows where OBL is and is not telling the US government, isn't that aiding a te rr or ist?

He clearly said on the debate he knows wher eis is and how to get him and when he is pres he will do just that.

Is he telling us he is harboring a OBL for political gain?

Yes, he did.

Arrest him now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 10/10/2008
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 332 fans permalink
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Eeeeeeeek...!

NOBODY want's to see McCain's "Inner Maverick" - not even Cindy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 10/10/2008

Just announced from McCain/Palin headquarters:

On October 29th, as Obama is addressing the nation on CBS, NBC and MSNBC, they will address supporters on a nationwide AM Radio hookup.

Their speech will originate from WKKK in Tupelo, Mississippi

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 10/10/2008
- Heavy I'm a Fan of Heavy 245 fans permalink
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Coffee cans and strings

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 10/10/2008
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Is that for real? LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 10/10/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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I heard they were doing it by Western Union telegrams.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 10/10/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Dinosaur Express. When it absolutely, positively has to get there 6,000 years ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:48 PM on 10/10/2008
- HopeGirl I'm a Fan of HopeGirl 25 fans permalink

Just in:

Tupelo Mississippi just went to O.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 10/10/2008

you liberals must never smile. What with your candidate winning, your great educations and beautiful families. Now us real americans we got lots to smile about. My cousin finally got her per i od so I am grinning ear to ear!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 10/10/2008

totally offensive

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 10/10/2008
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Totally satirical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 10/10/2008
- Heavy I'm a Fan of Heavy 245 fans permalink
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SickPuppy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 10/10/2008
- doctorwang I'm a Fan of doctorwang 196 fans permalink
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I'm sure everyone is happy about that....we don't need another one of you walking the earth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 10/10/2008
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LOL

You're all class.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 10/10/2008
- jpcline004 I'm a Fan of jpcline004 11 fans permalink

LMAO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 10/10/2008
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Say it ain't so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again. You
preferenced [sic] your whole comment with the Bush administration. Now
doggone it, let's look ahead and tell Americans what we have to plan to do
for them in the future. You mentioned education, and I'm glad you did. I
know education you are passionate about with your wife being a teacher for
30 years, and god bless her. Her reward is in heaven, right? ... My brother,
who I think is the best schoolteacher in the year, and here's a shout-out to
all those third graders at Gladys Wood Elementary School, you get extra
credit for watching the debate

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 10/10/2008
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Above is:


Palin's response to Biden's comments about how the middle class has been
short-changed during the Bush administration, and how McCain will continue
Bush's policies

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 10/10/2008
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 317 fans permalink

Yup, one impressive performance...

Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 10/10/2008

Lets not be too critical of the bailout. The bailout strategy is so much more efficient than the former strategy.

In the past the financial elite had to use the messy process of mortgage lending and put in considerable overtime to come up with ways to inflate the value of homes and pocket the profits in the exchange. This process wasn't efficient because so much of their time was wasted coming up with new swindles, launching numerous lobbying efforts and struggling with constant financial shell-game.

But now with the help of Bush and the Congress this process has been streamlined to save waste. Now, 700 billion (plus) dollars of working class incomes can be put DIRECTLY in the pockets of the financial elite without involving the middle men. Talk about reform!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 10/10/2008
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 90 fans permalink

well it had to be streamlined because Bush willl be going home to Kennebunkport soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 10/10/2008
- timezone I'm a Fan of timezone 10 fans permalink

After reading how some of the CEO's of companies like AIG and Lehman came out with millions or even a billion, will the govt. go after them (and their assets), if fraud is proven? What they've done seems so far beyond just regular criminal fraud, more like treason, it it's proven (shouldn't be difficult). What happened to our economy seems to be have been clearly helped along by these financial "experts" who profited on our misery. Getting back millions, maybe billions, from them seems only fitting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 10/10/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Yes, but who will care for their cuticles?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:42 PM on 10/10/2008
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I made a mistake.
I can't believe I missed it.

JOEISMIA = FUNGUS

JOISMIA = MACHO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 10/10/2008
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The only Republican folks still supporting McCain/Palin are those stuck on stoopid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 10/10/2008
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The only Republican folks still supporting McCain/Palin are real wh@ckos. They wonder how Obama got this far, however, it never dawns on them, that maybe the flaw is, with their own critical thinking abilities.

If reality presented me with evidence that I couldn't understand, I would reexamine my thinking on the issue -- they never consider that.

Real wh@ckos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 10/10/2008

typical librul appeaser. i can am smart

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 10/10/2008
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The reality is undeniable, but you can't see it -- why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 10/10/2008
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And what you wrote, doesn't even make sense. Clarify, please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 10/10/2008
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Appeaser? What do you mean, exactly.

I don't have to appease anything. I'm a liberal and proud of it and if you have a problem with that -- too bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 10/10/2008
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 332 fans permalink
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LOL!

Okay - so you can be funny!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 10/10/2008

spambot

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 10/10/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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Good point. Maybe it would be best for the country to set up an area in Alaska where they all could live as separatists and we could purge the country of these wackjobs?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 10/10/2008
- suntzu I'm a Fan of suntzu 16 fans permalink
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When a bastion of conservative thought, the National Review, takes McCain to the woodshed for his reckless mortgage buyout plan, you know that the game is over for the "maverick."

The fact that McCain did not vet his own mortgage plan forced him to change it overnight (after the debate), and then it came a cropper with fiscal conservatives. Except for the right-wing lunatics, the conservatives in the GOP are appalled at McCain.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/10/mccain.mortgages/index.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 10/10/2008
- GrainOSand I'm a Fan of GrainOSand 269 fans permalink
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The really scary thing about McCain's plan is that it is obvious he does not understand, and it is also obvious that he is willing to say anything to the people if it will get him votes, even if it does not make sense economically. McCain would rather bankrupt a nation than lose an election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 10/10/2008
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 90 fans permalink

EXACTLY how is this different from our Reverend Leader George Jr....

McCain can get elected, it CAN happen...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 10/10/2008

McCain plan would help many Americans whose house has lost a ton of value. You people don't get it. The government will buy up mortgages of overpriced homes for a discounted price and then give the homeowner a new long term fixed rate mortgage for the real value of their home.

One home per family, no speculators allowed.

I actually think this is the only plan that's been put forth that will actually help people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 10/10/2008
- Adub I'm a Fan of Adub permalink

The quickest, surest way to have slowed down or eliminated the stock selloff would have required no money, no strategy, nothing, except one simple move: pull the lug on CNBC.

Just as with past sell-offs, CNBC and their doom-and-gloom guests stoke that fear like Sarah Palin inciting hatred and violence with her words.

I'm all for the first amendment, but CNBC is responsible for at least 1000-2000 points of selling, enough to buy and sell their parent company, GE, many times over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 10/10/2008
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Even though I agree that CNBC is not helping matters, the real problem that's happening now is margin calls are coming due and hedge funds are bailing out at any price.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 10/10/2008
- mrsmdressup I'm a Fan of mrsmdressup 405 fans permalink
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I am so glad I'm not working in the investment industry now. I don't know which was worse, cold calling or margin calls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 10/10/2008
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you got to be kidding - have you watched Larry Kudlow for the last year - Ms. Goldie Locks economy.

Always cut off guest that had something bad to say. Please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 PM on 10/10/2008
- Pyrrhus I'm a Fan of Pyrrhus 8 fans permalink

Actually, things really must be scary if GWB makes a tv appearance before noon.

Maybe he's worried about a mass of unemployed, homeless soccer moms accosting him on the Texas backroads intent on tearing him apart.

Sorry folks, looks like something really bad is on the horizon. if we can get another "New Deal" type of thing, maybe we can head it off.

But anyway what's so important about the economy and the framework of our system of government when we can make veiled racist comments about someone who actually wants to help?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 10/10/2008

VolvoBirkenstock See Profile I'm a Fan of VolvoBirkenstock I'm a fan of this user permalink

I seem to make the tr0lls very upset.

Will open a split of bubbly in celebration.

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I figured you drank it all when you outed Brad. I got drunk on a can of lead paint but my parents grounded me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:21 PM on 10/10/2008
- AdLib I'm a Fan of AdLib 277 fans permalink
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Walmart is having a sale this week on lead paint, bubblegum flavor is the best.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 10/10/2008

mm thanks. my mom is a greeter there so I will ask her to swipe some ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 10/10/2008
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Lead paint from China?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 10/10/2008
- Mogamboguru I'm a Fan of Mogamboguru 332 fans permalink
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There was an accident during production in China: This one was HEALTHY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 10/10/2008
- ZHarris I'm a Fan of ZHarris 48 fans permalink
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I believe it was the Hume that did the actual outing.

The rest of us just piled on, so brattie got a new s ock -- F150Justin; not as preppy, though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 10/10/2008

Coyote made the initial discovery.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 10/10/2008
- ZHarris I'm a Fan of ZHarris 48 fans permalink
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Thanks volvo. I appreciate getting the facts straight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 10/10/2008
- doctorwang I'm a Fan of doctorwang 196 fans permalink
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Make sure you ignore those voices in your head when they tell you to detach your ear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 10/10/2008

nah the voices in my head were taken out by Sarah's church. I didn't realize a snakebite had so many natural cures

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 10/10/2008
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