Working Class White Voters Are Ditching McCain

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KIMBERLY HEFLING | October 10, 2008 10:26 AM EST | AP

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Georgia Lutz, right, sits with Darryl Hendon on the stoop outside their home in Beaver Falls, Pa. Thursday, Oct. 9, 2008. Lutz said she's voting for Obama, as did Hendon, 50, both Democrats. Hendon said he thinks some white Democrats in the region are reluctant to back Obama simply because of his race. (AP Photo/Keith Srakocic)

KITTANNING, Pa. — The steel mills and coal mines of western Pennsylvania helped fuel the nation's economic engine. Today, old factory shells and boarded-up storefronts stand as bleak reminders of those once-prosperous times.

But the voters in working-class enclaves such as this still are a sought-after prize in presidential politics, and many are belatedly backing Democratic nominee Barack Obama.

In the Democratic primaries, working-class whites consistently supported Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. Later polls showed them overwhelmingly favoring Republican nominee John McCain.

Now, driven by fears that their personal finances could further deteriorate, many see Obama as the better choice _ their thinking in some cases driven more by concern about how McCain would handle the economy than any growing admiration for his rival.

"I don't know that there's anything I particularly like about him (Obama), but I dislike McCain, and I dislike the way the country is, and Republicans need to change," said lifelong Republican Ruth Ann Michel, 64, a retiree shopping in a market in Butler on a recent day. She said her vote for Obama would be her first for a Democratic presidential candidate.

While talk in these parts is mostly about the economy, a prominent _ if not unspoken subtext _ is race. A study of the impact of racial attitudes on the election conducted by The Associated Press with Yahoo News and Stanford University found that whites without a college education were much more likely to hold negative views of blacks than those with a college education.

Democratic Gov. Ed Rendell says a drowning man doesn't care what color the person is who throws him a life preserver.

"This election is going to be decided when a husband and wife sit at a kitchen table, or a single parent sits at the kitchen table, looks at their bills and figures out who is most likely to help them with their financial condition," Rendell said. "If the answer's Barack Obama, nobody's going to care whether he's black, green, orange, purple, fuchsia or whatever."

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In April, Rendell backed Clinton in the primary and had to answer questions after saying some whites in his state were likely to vote against Obama because of his race.

Darryl Hendon, 50, of Beaver Falls, who is black and on disability, said he thinks some white Democrats are reluctant to back Obama because of his race.

Since early September, growing numbers of whites who have not finished college have been expressing the view that Obama cares about people like them, even as fewer say so about McCain, according to AP-GfK polling.

In early September, McCain had a 26-point advantage among white voters without a college degree who were likely to vote, according to the poll. But by late September, the advantage had dropped to 7 points, with McCain leading 46 percent to 39 percent among this group.

For Obama, that's far better than Democrats have done in recent presidential elections. President Bush carried whites who haven't finished college by 23 points in 2004 and by 17 points in 2000.

In Pennsylvania, a recent Quinnipiac University poll showed Obama with a double-digit lead over McCain, compared with a close race after the political conventions. Clay Richards, a Quinnipiac pollster, said that's because support among working-class voters in the state is growing, and he suspects many former Clinton supporters are moving to Obama's camp.

The candidates' campaign schedules make clear the importance they attach to Pennsylvania's working-class voters.

McCain and running mate Sarah Palin staged a rally Wednesday in the former steel town of Bethlehem in northeast Pennsylvania. On Friday, Palin was stopping in Pittsburgh, then heading for Johnstown in western Pennsylvania, where unemployment recently topped 7 percent. The self-described hockey mom planned to drop the ceremonial first puck when the Philadelphia Flyers open their season against the New York Rangers on Saturday.

Obama, for his part, will be in Philadelphia on Saturday. And on Sunday, his running mate, Delaware Sen. Joe Biden, will be joined in his blue-collar hometown of Scranton by Clinton and her husband, former President Clinton.

In western Pennsylvania, Republican and Democratic voters alike tend to be socially conservative, pro-gun and anti-abortion rights. Many are so-called Reagan Democrats willing to vote for a Republican because of social issues.

While some pockets in this region have recovered and flourished after hard times in the 1980s, many never did. Populations have dwindled and many of those left are elderly.

"The ones who can get a good education ... they leave, which I don't blame them because there's nothing here, really," said Georgia Lutz, 55, who was eating breakfast at a diner in Beaver Falls recently with Hendon. "The economy is absolutely horrible and we're going into a depression right now."

The working-class vote is particularly important in the battleground states of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Ohio, where the percentage of adults without a college degree ranks exceeds the national average.

They also are a key voting bloc because those personally affected by the current economic woes appear to be among the more persuadable voters, according to a recent AP-Yahoo News poll. Among them is Michelle Smith, 41, who works retail during the day at a surplus shop in Kittanning and tends bar at night. Combined, she and her husband have six kids.

"Decent working families can't survive. It's very sad," Smith said. "They raised minimum wage, but now you're paying triple in gas to get to work. It evens itself out."

A Democrat, Smith said she's leaning toward McCain. While she said she likes Obama on a personal level, she wonders if Obama has what it takes to fix the economy.

Obama's already won over Don Melochick, 58, a construction worker from Whitehall, Pa., in northeast Pennsylvania. A registered Democrat who's voted Republican in the past, Melochick said he plans to vote for Obama because he's "somewhat better" than McCain.

If McCain "hasn't changed nothing in his 30 years ... he's not going to change anything now," Melochick said, from the counter of a diner outside Philadelphia. But he adds: "I don't think Obama will either."

KITTANNING, Pa. — The steel mills and coal mines of western Pennsylvania helped fuel the nation's economic engine. Today, old factory shells and boarded-up storefronts stand as bleak reminders o...
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- kjstjohn I'm a Fan of kjstjohn 255 fans permalink
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In my family, to a person, the uneducated racist democrats among us started voting Republican starting with Reagan and were stalwart Bush supporters in the last two election rounds because they thought he was more like them (and less likely to give the blacks any kind of hand-out including healthcare).

Whites who deny that the Rebublican campaign strategies are designed to tap racist sensibilities don't understand the psychological makeup of many Reagan democrats. My lower-middle class, uneducated, hard-working relatives continue to vote Republican against their economic interests because their number-one concern (so far) has been that blacks will get something for free that they themselves have had to work hard to obtain. They also don't want any healthcare benefits (maternity benefits) that would allow Blacks to breed faster.

if you asked any of these people if they were racist, they would say "no' by the way.

k'hussein"stjohn

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 10/10/2008
- TN I'm a Fan of TN 28 fans permalink

If you asked any of these people do they rely soley on Fake Noise for their information, they would say, Yes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 10/10/2008
- GwenElle I'm a Fan of GwenElle 33 fans permalink

Thanks for the insight. Truthfully, I understand on a purely human level how resentment would develop among people whose "number-one concern (so far) has been that blacks will get something for free that they themselves have had to work hard to obtain".

Throughout America's history, working class blacks and whites have been economically exploited. In the most abject era of America's history, blacks worked without compensation. America received a lot for nothing! Enforced labor and social injustice denied an entire group of people basic human dignity. That is a lot to give up!

Given the current economic situation, we are all now in the same stew. We can either add our best selves to that stew or just keep throwing the same old junk into the pot. I believe that we can give up our resentments when we are inspired by the possibilities of what can be done when we all work together.

Barack's policies promise to extend assistance on the basis of need regardless of race. I hope that working class whites who fear a repeat of past governmental policies that relegated them to invisible status, will realize personal economic justice through an Obama presidency. That perhaps is the only thing that will help to change their hearts and minds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 10/10/2008

"President Bush carried whites who haven't finished college by 23 points in 2004 and by 17 points in 2000."

George Bush does't care about white people either.

OBAMA/BIDEN '08!
HOPE and CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 10/10/2008
- TN I'm a Fan of TN 28 fans permalink

George Bush cares only for George Bush. Why people believed he gave a cr@p about america is beyond me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 10/10/2008

This article is mirroring trends in VA. This morning, I spilled my Starbucks French Vanilla Latte-Grande when I heard the local libertarian ultraconservative Republican AM talk radio hosts say they don't care what the Rushes, Boortzes and Hannities are saying they are voting for Obama

The radio hosts even said that the choice of Palin is an insult to all Americans. They said that is she is a symbol of anti-intellectualism and proceeded to call her names that will get them fined.

They condemned Rove and claimed that the repubs have so limited their definition of what it means to be an American that most people in this country are not Americans by republicans standards.

They said repubss are all about hate, guns and intolerance. Then they ended their show by saying that all true Americans should vote for Obama.

Mind you I live in a rednecky republican military city surrounded by rural folks who dress in Confederate gear every Saturday and re-enact in "the War of Northern aggression battles".

I am hyperventilating..... I have to go find a paperbag now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 10/10/2008

I was listening to a local Fox radio affliliate here in the St. Louis area just yesterday and actually heard a conservative commentator speaking sense. He agreed basically with everything you said above. (possibly is the same syndicated program).

Obama is no God, he's just a man who offers hope and real potential for change. And boy do we need change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 10/10/2008
- GoBarryGo I'm a Fan of GoBarryGo 6 fans permalink

Wow. Are you sure you weren't dreaming? If those guys have had the epiphany, then there really is a landslide on the way. Let's keep working hard all the way through the finish line!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 10/10/2008

The only way that republicans have gotten anything (wining elections etc.) is by: LYING, CHEATING, STEALING, TALKING OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF THEIR MOUTH and Smiling while doing so. A lot of wealthy people did not get their riches honestly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 10/10/2008

all true but their main tactic is creating a sense of fear. Whether it be of higher taxes, Bin Laden, gays, blacks, jews... whatever they can use to create a sense the boogie man is going to get them. People are so easily fooled.

FDR said it best... "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 10/10/2008
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The fear factor tactic has flatlined.

With the economy falling flat on its ass, there really is nothing else left to fear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 10/10/2008
- GoBarryGo I'm a Fan of GoBarryGo 6 fans permalink

I second that. They've got nothing but smear and fear left and that is why it's going to be an Obama landslide. This is a country that sacrificed enormously -- both in loss of life and hardships at home -- to liberate Europe from the Nazis... you think we're not going to do it again on our own soil??? Oh hell no!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 10/10/2008
- Gmoney1 I'm a Fan of Gmoney1 24 fans permalink

Did anyone see how McCain's campaign purposely put the black man out there at their rally to pose the question to him about bringing up Rev. Wright and Ayers garbage ??? How obvious - they wanted the black man out there to ask that question - WHY - as I keep saying, they think americans are just plain stupid -

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 10/10/2008

I thought the same thing,it was a set up. The fellow is a host for a conservative talk radio station. He sounded like an idiot : "please ,I am begging you,begging you to bring up Rev Wright" What a fool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 10/10/2008
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I'm Black and I was mortified. He was the only black face in the crowd. I hope the guy was not a prop. I read somewhere that he was host of a radio show. There are about 4-6 percent of Blacks who are vote for McCain. For the hostility shown toward Obama, I would have paused before going into that crowd. We do have sell-outs--one is sitting on the Supreme Court, as we speak.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 10/10/2008
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You know what's funny? The link above that says "John McCain's IQ is 130--what's yours?" The formula for IQ MUST include multiplication. Geesh! I'm going to claim mine is 400.

Ok, then. We'll take the redneck vote. Too bad they are coming around only in protest, though.

Man... only three weeks before we vote bye-bye to that lump of "un-clean" coal Bush.

Can't wait...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 10/10/2008
- jusion I'm a Fan of jusion 4 fans permalink

Do you think it's already OVER?
WAS IT OVER WHEN GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 10/10/2008
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Yeah, I think it's over. Your "fat lady" is warming up right now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 10/10/2008

Republicans have been really good at getting people to vote against self interest. Maybe this year will break the mold

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 10/10/2008
- Chavez08 I'm a Fan of Chavez08 58 fans permalink
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Reaganism is hell on earth for working people (90% of America)

The corporate elite are squeezing as much out of the working-class as they can and firing them for not giving 150% 150% of the time for a paycheck that's only enough to keep the worker sustained enough to keep working (and shrinking consistently).

Work related stress plays more than a significant role in all of our health issues, we are literally working ourselves to death (but we continue to put exclusive blame our diets and additives because our oppressors tell us to.)

McCain represents status-quo slavery, period - he encourages it and his economic/military plans show this much. I think Americans are finally tired of slavery and corporate oppression and they want their personal, political and purchasing power back from the greedy few.

We need to show the establishment, their cronies and their enforcers just how pissed off we are. Leave NO Republican in office (fed, state or local)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 10/10/2008
- jusion I'm a Fan of jusion 4 fans permalink

Move to Venezuela.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 10/10/2008
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jusxxx...do you realize that's the first intelligent thing you've posted here? At least Venezuela has it right. But you'll never know because our corporate-controlled media will never tell such a truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 10/10/2008
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Second THAT motion. Have you ever had an argument with someone who is greedy, insecure, paranoid, or (and) uneducated? This is what we're up against.

You practice for that argument with a five year old.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 10/10/2008

I had that argument with someone who is greedily "clinging" to his ILL-GOTTEN GAINS ... and it left me LITERALLY SICK TO MY STOMACH!!!

I'm voting for the "Community Organizer" with PRIDE and PATRIOTISM!!!
"That one" is THE ONE!!!

OBAMA/BIDEN '08!
HOPE and CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 10/10/2008

YOU BET YA!!!

Obama WILL bridge the gap between the HAVES and the HAVE NOTS!

Obama supporters say thanks but no thanks to the REPUBLICAN's "trickle down" bridge to NOWHERE!!!

OBAMA/BIDEN '08!
HOPE and CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 10/10/2008

McCain has been about a month behind every idea of Barack Obama.. he's tottering and getting close to senility .. in one speach calling Americans.."my fellow prisoners".. A McCain presidency would make that only too accurate..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 10/10/2008

in one speach calling Americans.."my fellow prisoners".. A McCain presidency would make that only too accurate..

The BUSH Administration already has passed the prison keys to McCain.

Amid the CHAOS & CATASTROPHE left to Obama to CORRECT, I'd like to see him find time to CONVICT the Bush/Cheney cabal for their CRIMINAL CORRUPTION and WAR CRIMES!!!

And DON'T ya'll "but...but...but Clinton" me!
When CLINTON lied ... NOBODY DIED!!!

OBAMA/BIDEN '08!
HOPE and CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 10/10/2008
- LMT I'm a Fan of LMT 13 fans permalink
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'tre' is the perfect example of those who cling to their outmoded thoughts (like Sarah Palin & McBush) despite reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 10/10/2008
- CUL8R I'm a Fan of CUL8R 18 fans permalink
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It's really sad to hear the hopelessness in what these people have to say about their futures and the futures of their children. I truly believe that Obama/Biden will work to make their lives better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 10/10/2008

I overheard two "white, working-class" people, a man and a women, talking about the election. You know, these are the folks the pundits have been relentlessly saying Obama is having trouble with. The guy was wearing a plumber's uniform and had a classic Brooklyn accent to go along with his thick neck. The woman, sporting excessive make-up and big hair, spoke with the same accent, though she had a reasonable neck. The point is, in simple terms, they were commiserating about why they were voting for Obama. My thought at that moment? "Landslide. It's going to be a landslide!"
Peter Loffredo
http://fullpermissionliving.blogspot.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 10/10/2008
- GoBarryGo I'm a Fan of GoBarryGo 6 fans permalink

Abso-freakin-lutely. McCain went for the nuclear "race" option and it's blowing up in his face. Karma is a bigger beyotch than Palin!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 10/10/2008
- Chavez08 I'm a Fan of Chavez08 58 fans permalink
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"Futures" of our children will be limited to being uneducated manufacturing slaves (literally - no pay, forced labor) or expendable, brainwashed soldiers used to protect corporate bases, infrastructures and trade routes from the oppressed, disenfranchised rebels

Under Republican rule, we would see many, many more suicides, domestic violence, so-called "terrorism", work-place violence and a sea of work related fatal health issues. When the Police unions are finally broken down, I'm sure we'll see new, elaborate organized crime dynasties led by talented though disenfranchised cops (ref. Soviet Union collapse)

Without another FDR-like president, this country will be like Palestine on steroids.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 10/10/2008
- bryansmith I'm a Fan of bryansmith 16 fans permalink
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lol, was that a "Book of Morman" ad right in the middle of the post?? Too funny!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 10/10/2008

It amazes me that the American people are so in the dark about what the rest of the world thinks about the U.S. They hate us because our greedy unregulated Wall Street scum-bags made off with hundreds of millions of dollars sticking the rest of the world with the bad mortgage debt. This world economic crisis was made 100% in the USA. Amazing that Americans are so insular and so arrogant that nowhere in the media are there ever any reports about how the U.S. has totally destroyed the world economy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 10/10/2008
- HHarvey I'm a Fan of HHarvey 30 fans permalink
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It's people like tre who don't care about anything else outside of the U.S. and their own lives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 AM on 10/10/2008

As Rev. Wright said, "the chickens are coming home to roost."

McCain is easily manipulated by the worst of his party. Whether it be Keating, WHO ACTUALLY REFLECTIVE OF MCCAIN'S ECOMONIC JUDGEMENT, his Rovian advisors who designed this fiasco and hand-picked Palin to energize the racist base which will mar McCain's legacy, ruin Palin's political future (hopefully), and make many reasonable Republicans not want to associate with the Racism Party for a very long time. How's that for judgement? Maverick?

The disease of racism is that you can't see the good guy coming if all you can see is his race, and you can't see the bad guy coming if you rely on his race to make you feel safe. Those who insist that McCain is the good guy here are the ones so diseased by racism that they would drown than take the life preserver. All we can do is let them go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 10/10/2008

It reminds me of those people who when during a hurricane, you say "if you stay, you are certain of death" and they stay in their homes. These people stay with what they feel comfortable with, stubborn to leave. They choose death instead of life. Some at the very end will call for help as the flood waters get below their necks. When will these people wake up and choose the one who has the brains to get us out of this mess. Obama is the right choice. Hey, if there was a good Republican out there that was better I would pull the lever. This time, its the Democrat!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 10/10/2008
- BeSomeone I'm a Fan of BeSomeone 2 fans permalink

Go to youtube and do a search for "thinkverybig" and watch all of those videos. The one called "We Must Change" would be fitting to recite at Obama's Inauguration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 10/10/2008
- tre I'm a Fan of tre 12 fans permalink

This working class white voter isn't ditching him. I'm not about to vote for some liberal who wants to take ever larger chunks out of my paycheck. Who thinks I can't be trusted to own a gun. Who thinks my children are "punishment". Who thinks I'm "clinging bitterly to guns and religion with antipathy toward others."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 10/10/2008
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Sure sounds to me like you're sticking fast to your guns and antipathy.

Oh and your fear too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 10/10/2008
- HHarvey I'm a Fan of HHarvey 30 fans permalink
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Tre, your allowed to your opinion but at least be smart about it. Sounds like you've been watching too much Fox News and not doing enough research, but then again, you wouldn't because it's much preferable to hold onto your anger like a crutch so you can vote for the white man. Never mind, people like you are a lost cause and part of the reason that republicans have lost their way. I don't think you're clinging bitterly to guns and religion, I KNOW you are clinging bitterly to guns and religion by your post above.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 10/10/2008
- Paralogos I'm a Fan of Paralogos 12 fans permalink

I don't know who thinks you're clinging to anything, but I do think you're trolling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 10/10/2008
- payos I'm a Fan of payos 7 fans permalink

I'm sorry you feel that way, it's your life, so I wish you the best

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 10/10/2008
- arspar183 I'm a Fan of arspar183 4 fans permalink
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sounds like you're bitter to me........
you forgot to throw in that he's a muslim
a terrorist and hates amerika too

GOBAMA08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 10/10/2008
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