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Huffington Post   |  Nicholas Sabloff
First Posted: 10-12-08 04:40 PM   |   Updated: 11-12-08 05:12 AM

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Now that a full-scale economic crisis is upon us, many are left asking the complicated but necessary question of how did we get here. While there are numerous individuals and institutions who deserve their share of the blame, it is also important to recognize those issued warnings about the fragility of the financial system and sounded the alarm about an impending collapse before it all came crashing down.

Below is the beginning of our look at some of the figures--politicians, economists, pundits--whose observations about our financial situation have come to seem all too prescient. Please check back as more names are added to our list and by all means let us know who else deserves credit for having seen our current meltdown coming.


Nouriel Roubini, NYU professor of economics: from "The Rising Risk of a Systemic Financial Meltdown: The Twelve Steps to Financial Disaster" (subscription req'd), February 5, 2008

Sixth, it is possible that some large regional or even national bank that is very exposed to mortgages, residential and commercial, will go bankrupt. Thus some big banks may join the 200 plus subprime lenders that have gone bankrupt.[...]

Ninth, the "shadow banking system" (as defined by the PIMCO folks) or more precisely
the "shadow financial system" (as it is composed by non-bank financial institutions) will
soon get into serious trouble.[...]

Tenth, stock markets in the US and abroad will start pricing a severe US recession -
rather than a mild recession - and a sharp global economic slowdown.[...]

A near global economic recession will ensue as the financial and credit losses and the
credit crunch spread around the world. Panic, fire sales, cascading fall in asset prices will
exacerbate the financial and real economic distress as a number of large and systemically
important financial institutions go bankrupt. A 1987 style stock market crash could occur
leading to further panic and severe financial and economic distress.
In this meltdown scenario US and global financial markets will experience their most
severe crisis in the last quarter of a century.



Watch Roubini discuss the financial crisis on Bloomberg TV:



Watch Roubini discuss Fannie and Freddie on Charlie Rose:


Warren Buffett, BBC News, "Buffett Warns On Investment 'Time Bomb,'" March 4, 2003

[Derivatives are] financial weapons of mass destruction.[...]

Derivatives generate reported earnings that are often wildly overstated and based on estimates whose inaccuracy may not be exposed for many years.[...]

Large amounts of risk have becomes concentrated in the hands of relatively few derivatives dealers ... which can trigger serious systematic problems.

Nassim Nicholas Taleb, from his book The Black Swan The Impact of the Highly Improbable, April 2007
Globalization creates interlocking fragility, while reducing volatility and giving the appearance of stability. In other words it creates devastating Black Swans. We have never lived before under the threat of a global collapse. Financial Institutions have been merging into a smaller number of very large banks. Almost all banks are interrelated. So the financial ecology is swelling into gigantic, incestuous, bureaucratic banks - when one fails, they all fall. The increased concentration among banks seems to have the effect of making financial crises less likely, but when they happen they are more global in scale and hit us very hard. We have moved from a diversified ecology of small banks, with varied lending policies, to a more homogeneous framework of firms that all resemble one another. True, we now have fewer failures, but when they occur ....I shiver at the thought.[...]

The government-sponsored institution Fannie Mae, when I look at its risks, seems to be sitting on a barrel of dynamite, vulnerable to the slightest hiccup. But not to worry: their large staff of scientists deemed these events 'unlikely'.

Byron Dorgan, Senator (D-ND): New York Times, "Washington's Invisible Hand," September 26, 2008
Dorgan's comment on McCain adviser Phil Gramm's deregulation efforts back in 1999:
I think we will look back in 10 years' time and say we should not have done this, but we did because we forgot the lessons of the past and that that which is true in the 1930s is true in 2010.

Joseph Stiglitz, Nobel Prize-winning economist: Washington Post, "The Iraq War Will Cost Us $3 Trillion, and Much More," March 9, 2008
We face an economic downturn that's likely to be the worst in more than a quarter-century.

Until recently, many marveled at the way the United States could spend hundreds of billions of dollars on oil and blow through hundreds of billions more in Iraq with what seemed to be strikingly little short-run impact on the economy. But there's no great mystery here. The economy's weaknesses were concealed by the Federal Reserve, which pumped in liquidity, and by regulators that looked away as loans were handed out well beyond borrowers' ability to repay them. Meanwhile, banks and credit-rating agencies pretended that financial alchemy could convert bad mortgages into AAA assets, and the Fed looked the other way as the U.S. household-savings rate plummeted to zero.

It's a bleak picture. The total loss from this economic downturn -- measured by the disparity between the economy's actual output and its potential output -- is likely to be the greatest since the Great Depression.

Paul Krugman, New York Times columnist

Krugman has been warning about the dangers of the housing bubble for years, and the terrible toll it could take on the economy when it pops. Here is a Krugman warning from August 29, 2005:

These days Mr. Greenspan expresses concern about the financial risks created by "the prevalence of interest-only loans and the introduction of more-exotic forms of adjustable-rate mortgages." But last year he encouraged families to take on those very risks, touting the advantages of adjustable-rate mortgages and declaring that "American consumers might benefit if lenders provided greater mortgage product alternatives to the traditional fixed-rate mortgage.


If Mr. Greenspan had said two years ago what he's saying now, people might have borrowed less and bought more wisely. But he didn't, and now it's too late. There are signs that the housing market either has peaked already or soon will. And it will be up to Mr. Greenspan's successor to manage the bubble's aftermath.

How bad will that aftermath be? The U.S. economy is currently suffering from twin imbalances. On one side, domestic spending is swollen by the housing bubble, which has led both to a huge surge in construction and to high consumer spending, as people extract equity from their homes. On the other side, we have a huge trade deficit, which we cover by selling bonds to foreigners. As I like to say, these days Americans make a living by selling each other houses, paid for with money borrowed from China.

One way or another, the economy will eventually eliminate both imbalances.


Daniel Altman, author, economic journalist and Huffpo blogger, from "Contracts So Complex They Imperil The System", February 24, 2002

When companies that rack up huge hidden debts and traders who illicitly amass mountains of risk are exposed, Wall Street's big players rush to cut their losses and collect on their debts. If that kind of rush were ever to result in a shortage of cash, it would paralyze the financial system. Stock markets would tumble and banks would close, putting the savings of households at risk.


Now that a full-scale economic crisis is upon us, many are left asking the complicated but necessary question of how did we get here. While there are numerous individuals and institutions who deserve ...
Now that a full-scale economic crisis is upon us, many are left asking the complicated but necessary question of how did we get here. While there are numerous individuals and institutions who deserve ...
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How much money could we save if we stopped this stupidity?
http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/20-marijuana-arrests-set-new-record/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 10/13/2008
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Honor Roll nominees:

Superpower? Really? Michael Ventura quotes several. Check out the cartoon by Jason Stout.

Check it out. June 22, 2007:

http://www.austinchronicle.com/gyrobase/Issue/column?oid=oid%3A494048

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 10/13/2008

Peter Schiff should be at the top of this list. Check his back YOUTUBE videos over the last 2 years, and you will see he predicted everything.
(Or are Libertarians not allowed to be honored on Huffington Post?)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 10/13/2008
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Thomas Frank, posthaste.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 10/13/2008
- 1sparrow I'm a Fan of 1sparrow 20 fans permalink

eliot spitzer and john edwards where exposing this stuff and, they were both made to go away. are you afriad to print this? im afraid to type it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 10/13/2008
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Big Ups to Paul Krugman...­2008 Nobel Prize in Economics

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 PM on 10/13/2008

When are we finally wake up and abolish the unconstitutional Federal Reserve, which is just a private banking cartel in control of our country's money?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 10/13/2008

You should add:

Lyndon LaRouche
Lyndon LaRouche Political Action Comittee (LPAC)
and
Executive Intelligence Review.

This is the only US media that was telling the truty all along when this crisis was being fabricated by the bankers

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 10/13/2008

Ron Paul should be at the top of this honor roll list, and it is shamefully true that neither Obama or McCain belong anywhere near it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 10/13/2008

So Obama warning over and over from the floor of the Senate that Fannie and Freddie were going to crumble means NOTHING TO YOU?

Please hate McCain for all the bad things he stands for. But don't become a liar.

There's a person on this list for warning against Fannie and Freddie yet of course they wouldn't list McCain.

Pathetic. But that's why I come here to get my daily dose of pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 10/13/2008
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Except McCain cannot prove what he is claiming - we are still waiting for his proof.
Why then would he have his campaign manager, Rick Davis, on his staff and then
denies it. McCain is definitely a liar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 10/14/2008
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And don't forget HRC who was banging this drum back in 2007 on the side of the PEOPLE, not Wall Street. We know from the continued and DIRECT attacks against HRC from Huff Post, that they have a very negative portrayal of her, but she called this back in 2007. Give HRC her due. She belongs on the honor roll for sure.

http://www.senate.gov/~clinton/issues/housing/subprime/index.cfm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 10/13/2008

my husband 's father worked two jobs and was an immigrant to this country. my husband went thru college and grad school on school loans and money he saved from working as a teen at the gary steel mills ( incidently, we paid back the loans and did not receive any tax deduction for them) we do our own taxes as our only deductions are our state taxes, property taxes, mortgage unterest and donations to charity-we pay almost 50 % of our earnings in taxes. The government did not help either my husband or me thru school or life. We did not buy more than we could afford-we live within our means-and all of you who posted below are so green with class envy it is almost laughable. I believe we contribute sufficiently to our government by paying 50% of our earnings, we contribute a significant percentage to charity (far more than Joe Biden's measly $389 in tax year 2006-I guess its patriotic to let big governemnt spend your money but not to donate to charities that have a much better rpoven record of actually helping those in need). Just one question-do you spew your venom at everyone who has managed thru hardwork (we often out in 7am-9pm days) to be successful?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 10/13/2008
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Sweetie pie, we've all worked hard.

Just curious, did government build the streets you and your customers use? Did government defeat enemies of your nation? Did government build and operate the schools you and your husband attended. If you attended solely private schools, did government provide educations to any of your teachers, or did government allow your private school to evade paying taxes? Did government provide the policeman who kept your neighborhood safe last night? How about the aircraft carrier that is out to sea for you today? In a nursing home close by to you there is an elderly person who requires care that costs the government $6,000 a month. Can the government drop that elderly person off at your house so you can save $6,000 a month?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 10/13/2008

I don't know you and I am certainly not your 'sweetie pie.' Nevertheless, I will respond in turn,
Darling, My post above was in response to another poster who said that our financial success was due to the government-there is absolutely no basis for that statement. As for the government being able to do things better than private undustry-cost overrruns/­delays/mon­ey that has simply gone missing/countless gov employees performing the job that far fewer could do more efficiently/lacjk of acountability? Unfortunately some of these problems also show up in private industry-but no to the same degree.
I have no problem with paying taxes-I just feel we already pay plenty and to pay more means we will be spending far less, investing less and yes, it will have a negative impact on the overall economy when others do likewise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 10/13/2008
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And what about mail? She never got mail? This dancemom sounds like a troll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 10/13/2008
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The government DID help you your whole life, you ingrate. The government kept you physically safe by paying for federal agents, police, fire fighters, food safety inspectors, law courts (so your contracts have the force of law behind them) road builders, and thousands of other benefits that you take for granted. I doubt you pay 50% of your income in taxes. The top marginal tax rate is around 30%. I have no problem getting rid of all property taxes on primary residences. Beyond that taxes on wealth over $1 or $2 million should be MUCH higher.

Government spends the money better than individual organizations; or at least it could if we could ever get the proper incentives in place. But instead we hire government managers (Bush) who hate the government and would do anything to make it look bad.

Just look at the efficiencies medicare gets on prices vs. the prices that individual insurance companies get. Individual companies pay for their own payroll, legal departments, MARKETING departments, etc. One big player (like the government) means that more of the dollars spent are going to end services instead of going to compete against other companies via legal fees and marketing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 10/13/2008
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I sort of agree with what your are saying. Germany has a good government and education for instance is still free, though they are working on it to change it also.
But they don't have the vast military defense budget and ergo can afford healthcare
for its citizens. Depends who runs the government, there used to be people who
had deep convictions in the truth and transparency, like Konrad Adenauer! America,
well, they always resembled more the wild west and it seems to be getting worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 10/14/2008
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Did you go to government funded public schools or private ones? Where the loans you took out for college, government loans or even backed by the government (face it....most are)?

This problem is not just about those who took out loans they couldn't afford and lived beyond their means (shame on them). This is not just about Clinton pushing these loans.

It's about BOTH sides, the dems and repubs, being arses and playing politics with our money.

THE DEMS are to blame because they ignored the warning of the failing Fannie and Freddie (shame on them).

But it's THE REPUBS who are more to blame. The repubs pushed for lack of regulation which ultimately allowed for:

1. the misleading portrayal and lending practices of mortgage lenders
2. investment banks to transfer the risk of these loans by selling them to buyers who didn't get a correct value on the securites
3. the incorrect value placed on the heavily-guised mortgage backed securities.

Feel good about your financial situation, as I do, but don't be such a simpleon and assume it's only the fault of those who bought homes they couldn't afford. It's a lot more complicated than that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 10/13/2008
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Let me just reply to anyone who has been educated in this country--wherever it was: it was subsidized by the government. No student pays the full cost of education. The roads on which we drive, the water we drink, and to some extent even the air we breathe are subsidized by government. So, we are all receiving a lot of help from the government.

Also, please do not criticize other people--we have no idea what others are contributing to charity. I think a very wise man once admonished a certain group of people for advertizing their "alms." Let's be careful. When we point a finger at others, three point right back at us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 10/13/2008

How about David Walker, Comptroller GEneral and Head of GAO? He quit his position out of disgust for what was allowed to occur.

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Top_US_accountability_officer_quits_02152008.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 10/13/2008
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Michael Greenberger, formerly of the Futures Commodity Trading Board or whatever it's called. Was there when Phil Gramm did his de-regulating thing and has been talking about it. I first heard him last April on Fresh Air and have heard him several times since, including live in Los Angeles last June. Saw it coming, including the involvement with the insurance companies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 10/13/2008
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Michael Greenberger briefed congress on the fallout of their Commodities Futures Modernization Act and the inserted pages by Richard Lugar and Phil Gramm and congress decided to do
nothing and I wonder why. I suspect they too got rich off the oil so why change it. Do they have
our best interest in mind, certainly not. Now let us vote them again into office and wait for the
next calamity!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 10/14/2008

Add one more stellar name to the list : RAVI BATRA, an extraordinary economist!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 10/13/2008
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I love Batra on the afternoon Hartmann show on Air America. He has been saying for the longest time that we had a US house built on sand and weak foundation. Where is Harry Belafonte when we need him to sing this song.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 10/13/2008
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All those who knew were ignored, and those in charge, Bush, Greenspan, Paulson et al, have been publicly denying everything for over a year, and now feign surprise.

The clips on Youtube of these three men declaring "the fundamentals are strong" , and declaring "the market will correct itself", are in the hundreds. Add McCain too.

Denial, denial, denial, that's why we are where we are!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 10/13/2008

Add Prof. Stephen Dempsey to the economic honor roll.

He pointed out over twenty years ago that the elimination of government regulation was not in the "public interest."
"Deregulation" has failed. The "Deregulation" economic theory has clearly failed to serve the American people.
Suggest a new list showing the villains of the "deregulation" movement. Concentrate on the academic economists but don't leave out the politicians. Economics is a science ... isn't it?

Now let me see ... if I take my social security money and put it in the stock market I will be better off. Is that right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 10/13/2008
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