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First Posted: 10-12-08 04:40 PM   |   Updated: 11-12-08 05:12 AM

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Now that a full-scale economic crisis is upon us, many are left asking the complicated but necessary question of how did we get here. While there are numerous individuals and institutions who deserve their share of the blame, it is also important to recognize those issued warnings about the fragility of the financial system and sounded the alarm about an impending collapse before it all came crashing down.

Below is the beginning of our look at some of the figures--politicians, economists, pundits--whose observations about our financial situation have come to seem all too prescient. Please check back as more names are added to our list and by all means let us know who else deserves credit for having seen our current meltdown coming.


Nouriel Roubini, NYU professor of economics: from "The Rising Risk of a Systemic Financial Meltdown: The Twelve Steps to Financial Disaster" (subscription req'd), February 5, 2008

Sixth, it is possible that some large regional or even national bank that is very exposed to mortgages, residential and commercial, will go bankrupt. Thus some big banks may join the 200 plus subprime lenders that have gone bankrupt.[...]

Ninth, the "shadow banking system" (as defined by the PIMCO folks) or more precisely
the "shadow financial system" (as it is composed by non-bank financial institutions) will
soon get into serious trouble.[...]

Tenth, stock markets in the US and abroad will start pricing a severe US recession -
rather than a mild recession - and a sharp global economic slowdown.[...]

A near global economic recession will ensue as the financial and credit losses and the
credit crunch spread around the world. Panic, fire sales, cascading fall in asset prices will
exacerbate the financial and real economic distress as a number of large and systemically
important financial institutions go bankrupt. A 1987 style stock market crash could occur
leading to further panic and severe financial and economic distress.
In this meltdown scenario US and global financial markets will experience their most
severe crisis in the last quarter of a century.



Watch Roubini discuss the financial crisis on Bloomberg TV:



Watch Roubini discuss Fannie and Freddie on Charlie Rose:


Warren Buffett, BBC News, "Buffett Warns On Investment 'Time Bomb,'" March 4, 2003

[Derivatives are] financial weapons of mass destruction.[...]

Derivatives generate reported earnings that are often wildly overstated and based on estimates whose inaccuracy may not be exposed for many years.[...]

Large amounts of risk have becomes concentrated in the hands of relatively few derivatives dealers ... which can trigger serious systematic problems.

Nassim Nicholas Taleb, from his book The Black Swan The Impact of the Highly Improbable, April 2007
Globalization creates interlocking fragility, while reducing volatility and giving the appearance of stability. In other words it creates devastating Black Swans. We have never lived before under the threat of a global collapse. Financial Institutions have been merging into a smaller number of very large banks. Almost all banks are interrelated. So the financial ecology is swelling into gigantic, incestuous, bureaucratic banks - when one fails, they all fall. The increased concentration among banks seems to have the effect of making financial crises less likely, but when they happen they are more global in scale and hit us very hard. We have moved from a diversified ecology of small banks, with varied lending policies, to a more homogeneous framework of firms that all resemble one another. True, we now have fewer failures, but when they occur ....I shiver at the thought.[...]

The government-sponsored institution Fannie Mae, when I look at its risks, seems to be sitting on a barrel of dynamite, vulnerable to the slightest hiccup. But not to worry: their large staff of scientists deemed these events 'unlikely'.

Byron Dorgan, Senator (D-ND): New York Times, "Washington's Invisible Hand," September 26, 2008
Dorgan's comment on McCain adviser Phil Gramm's deregulation efforts back in 1999:
I think we will look back in 10 years' time and say we should not have done this, but we did because we forgot the lessons of the past and that that which is true in the 1930s is true in 2010.

Joseph Stiglitz, Nobel Prize-winning economist: Washington Post, "The Iraq War Will Cost Us $3 Trillion, and Much More," March 9, 2008
We face an economic downturn that's likely to be the worst in more than a quarter-century.

Until recently, many marveled at the way the United States could spend hundreds of billions of dollars on oil and blow through hundreds of billions more in Iraq with what seemed to be strikingly little short-run impact on the economy. But there's no great mystery here. The economy's weaknesses were concealed by the Federal Reserve, which pumped in liquidity, and by regulators that looked away as loans were handed out well beyond borrowers' ability to repay them. Meanwhile, banks and credit-rating agencies pretended that financial alchemy could convert bad mortgages into AAA assets, and the Fed looked the other way as the U.S. household-savings rate plummeted to zero.

It's a bleak picture. The total loss from this economic downturn -- measured by the disparity between the economy's actual output and its potential output -- is likely to be the greatest since the Great Depression.

Paul Krugman, New York Times columnist

Krugman has been warning about the dangers of the housing bubble for years, and the terrible toll it could take on the economy when it pops. Here is a Krugman warning from August 29, 2005:

These days Mr. Greenspan expresses concern about the financial risks created by "the prevalence of interest-only loans and the introduction of more-exotic forms of adjustable-rate mortgages." But last year he encouraged families to take on those very risks, touting the advantages of adjustable-rate mortgages and declaring that "American consumers might benefit if lenders provided greater mortgage product alternatives to the traditional fixed-rate mortgage.


If Mr. Greenspan had said two years ago what he's saying now, people might have borrowed less and bought more wisely. But he didn't, and now it's too late. There are signs that the housing market either has peaked already or soon will. And it will be up to Mr. Greenspan's successor to manage the bubble's aftermath.

How bad will that aftermath be? The U.S. economy is currently suffering from twin imbalances. On one side, domestic spending is swollen by the housing bubble, which has led both to a huge surge in construction and to high consumer spending, as people extract equity from their homes. On the other side, we have a huge trade deficit, which we cover by selling bonds to foreigners. As I like to say, these days Americans make a living by selling each other houses, paid for with money borrowed from China.

One way or another, the economy will eventually eliminate both imbalances.


Daniel Altman, author, economic journalist and Huffpo blogger, from "Contracts So Complex They Imperil The System", February 24, 2002

When companies that rack up huge hidden debts and traders who illicitly amass mountains of risk are exposed, Wall Street's big players rush to cut their losses and collect on their debts. If that kind of rush were ever to result in a shortage of cash, it would paralyze the financial system. Stock markets would tumble and banks would close, putting the savings of households at risk.


Now that a full-scale economic crisis is upon us, many are left asking the complicated but necessary question of how did we get here. While there are numerous individuals and institutions who deserve ...
Now that a full-scale economic crisis is upon us, many are left asking the complicated but necessary question of how did we get here. While there are numerous individuals and institutions who deserve ...
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I'm sure many people knew that the way we were acting , financially, in this country , would eventually catch up to us. It isn't rocket science to know that you should have the money to buy stuff before you buy it- ( personal credit cards), that your mortgage payment should not be variable and should be within your budget that you have right now, not what it "might" be in a few years,. Having credit for a mortgage and car are reasonable as long as one shows a hefty % to put down against a large loan so banks don't totally lose their shirts. I learned all that when I grew up w/ parents who lived during the depression. Our children have grown up w/ credit card offers coming in 3-4 times a week in the mail , sometimes when they are

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 10/13/2008

Tax the rich? when my liberal friends say that I just remind them, has a poor person ever given you a job? Rich people create jobs period. Tax the rich more and more jobs move overseas. Windfall taxes on corporations? More jobs lost and the cost gets passed on to you! Is that what this country needs? Obama will sink this country even deeper.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 10/13/2008
- Ironquill I'm a Fan of Ironquill 14 fans permalink

Our CEO's have been coddled and they have taken the easy way, abetted by the mythology of Free Markets and Free Trade. No better example than the car companies. Japan started cleaning the clocks of car companies twenty five years ago. Detroit's response? Gas guzzlers. I own a small business and I have employees. We are the one's who create jobs. Nothing in the last eight years has helped small businesses except the accelerated depreciation on capital equipment purchases, which assumes you are making enough of a profit to use a tax deduction. While you and I struggle, the corporate types take the easy road when they might have focused upon innovation, which is harder to do than just pick up and move to China. As far as the equipment deduction was concerned, it covered Hummers and Ford 350's, which is where a significant amount of the deductions for small businesses went.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 10/13/2008
- MikaS I'm a Fan of MikaS 333 fans permalink
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I completely disagree with your logic. Millions of middle class and poor people provide jobs everyday in this country through small businesses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 10/13/2008
- Shashi0224 I'm a Fan of Shashi0224 94 fans permalink

After all, your way has worked so well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 10/13/2008
- grizhead63 I'm a Fan of grizhead63 16 fans permalink
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Rich people create jobs...in China, Honduras, Calcutta, Bangladesh, and so on...thank you for your brilliant neocon insight. Lets completely deregulate the jack als just like they did in the 1920's. Yup!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 10/13/2008
- condew I'm a Fan of condew 9 fans permalink

"Poor" people sustain jobs. They buy the services and products. Without customers, there is no business and there can be no job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 10/13/2008
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conservatives are pushing a disgraceful and very dangerous talking point which is,essentially: if all these poor people werent getting loans we wouldnt be in this mess.
so apparently poor people cant affect the economy in order to keep from being poor,yet somehow they have enough pull to wipe out wall street.
its exactly the same tactic theyre using with the whole acorn voter fraud thing.yeah­,this sounds logical.ac­orn and poor people have so much power over election results that they helped george bush get elected twice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 10/13/2008

Must have been all of those ACORN types who flooded the MacMansions in the RepuGlican 'burbs of Clark County, WA talking many to cross the Columbia, put nothing down and try to flip 500 thou houses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 10/13/2008
- pahpah25 I'm a Fan of pahpah25 6 fans permalink

i was watching 'MORNIN'JOE' on MSNBC this morning, when andrea mitchell announced that KRUGMAN had just been awarded the NOBEL for economics.­....scarbo­rough and mitchell were very scarcastic, making snide remarks...­.........m­ika brezninski sort of smiled....­..scarboro­ugh continued to have a hissy -fit......­he was already chafing that someone had the nerve to 'call' john mcain on his campaigns racist rhetoric and ads.......­.then to top it all off.......­.KRUGMAN!.­....it made my day!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 10/13/2008

Andrea Mitchell has to be the most gutless,fr­ont-runnin­g journalist on the air today....K­rugman has been spot-on regarding the economy for the past year...now the Bush administration privatizes the profits and has taxpayers take the losses we are suppose to keep quiet...Mi­tchell just wants the target to be Krugman rather than her husband Greenspan who MSNBC/NBC has conveniently not mentioned in all this mess...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 10/13/2008
- Barackaroo I'm a Fan of Barackaroo 5 fans permalink

Krugman has been spot on for 2-3 years. He was sounding the subprime alarm 2.5 years ago at least (that's when I started reading him in the International Herald Tribune).

Mika is really married to Greenspan? Sucks to be her, huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 AM on 10/13/2008
- Barackaroo I'm a Fan of Barackaroo 5 fans permalink

Wish I'd seen that. But,alas, I try to avoid Scarborough whenever possible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 AM on 10/13/2008
- spicegal I'm a Fan of spicegal 19 fans permalink

Paul Krugman??? You mean the same despicable liberal who writes op-ed pieces for the NYT?

Congrats to Paul Krugman, who's been right all along!!!! At last, all this Reagan trickle-down nonsense is finally being debunked in a big way. The current economic collapse didn't happen over night. It's been culminating for the last 25 years, and spurred on by the conservative/GOP ideology that says everything govt does is bad, and that financial markets don't need regulation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 10/13/2008
- Stoyver I'm a Fan of Stoyver 6 fans permalink

Krugman had a chart on his blog that mapped the concentration of wealth by the richest 5% of Americans. The graph extends from the 1800s to present. It clearly shows the economic train wreck we are now witnessing. The spikes coincide with the great depression and today's crash. It has inflection points during the Reagan and W Bush administration, sharp upturns. It is as if concentration of wealth in the hands of the few is an accurate predictor of recession/­depression­. Hmmm...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 10/13/2008

From Forbes magazine: Since 1929, 30% of the months under Republicans have been spent in recession, compared with just 10% under Democrats.
http://www.forbes.com/home/global/2004/0301/040.html

If anyone still believe that trickle-down economics works please buy be a burger today and I will gladly repay you when I see my share of the trickle-down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 10/13/2008

As of this morning Mr. Krugman is not only a HuffPost economic honor roll nominee, but also a Nobel Prize winner! What a well-deserved honor for a man with such incredible insight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 10/13/2008
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McCain can no longer blame the Democratic Congressional Leaders for Wall Street's failures. I hope BO uses Krugman's analysis and his warning Alan Greenspan in Wednesday's debate. Or.... John McCain could debate Paul Krugmann on the economy.

I would expect to see Mr. Krugmann on Olberman tonight!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 10/13/2008
- miamia I'm a Fan of miamia 10 fans permalink

Sadly, Ron Paul was not mentioned, but he warned us on the House Floor and during his campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 10/13/2008

Congratulations to Paul Krugman, one the the economists mentioned above. It was announced today that he won the Nobel prize for economics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 10/13/2008
- Swerinjer I'm a Fan of Swerinjer 9 fans permalink

Much respect to Krugman. Bow to your superior, puny obama fanatics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 10/13/2008
- JTyroler I'm a Fan of JTyroler 21 fans permalink
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I guess means one more Nobel Prize recipients who are not endorsing Sen. McCain's economic policies. Congratulations Mr. Krugman!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 10/13/2008
- Avembe I'm a Fan of Avembe 5 fans permalink

I have a VERY SERIOUS question
How is it possible for the US to fix the situation WITHOUT raising taxes?
is somebody able to tell with honestly how it's possible to do that??
I'm asking that to Liberals, Independent and Republican­s...
with a debt of 10 trillions ...let's get serious

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 10/13/2008

The issue isn't about just raising taxes. Remember, the debt isn't the only thing that ails the US. It is also the loss of a manufacturing base. That needs to come back and the economy needs to be kickstarted by feeding the main component that drives the american economy - the frig ging middle class.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 10/13/2008
- Avembe I'm a Fan of Avembe 5 fans permalink

Meaning :more government!!!!!
frankly that doesn't really bother me as long as we're able to DEMAND transparacy
But Ironquill, i guess japan and China won't really like that, am i wrong?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 10/13/2008
- Swerinjer I'm a Fan of Swerinjer 9 fans permalink

We now hold the rest of the world hostage to our obscene standard of living from credit. If we don't get it everything falls apart.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 10/13/2008
- Ironquill I'm a Fan of Ironquill 14 fans permalink

We are going to fix the problem by printing money. I don't like it, you don't like it. Unfortunately there is no other way out of this. We will need massive infrastructure spending, among other things. Printing money will eventually cause inflation, but right now it is better than going down the tubes in deflation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 10/13/2008

Tax cuts to stimulate the economy. Since the Bush tax cuts, revenues to the fed have gone up.
Obama's tax plan will hurt the economy.

This from the L.A. Times

"Excluding their proposals for healthcare, McCain's would cut $1.2 trillion more in taxes than Obama's over the next decade, according to the Tax Policy Center’s analysis. Beyond that, as with the Bush cuts, taxpayers with high incomes would receive much larger benefits from McCain's plan than the average taxpayer would. But taxpayers at the upper end of the scale bear a larger percentage of the tax burden; just as the share of income held by the wealthiest Americans has risen, so has their share of the overall tax bill. We want the next president to examine the wealth gap -- assuming the crashing stock market doesn't wipe it out -- but there's more at issue than tax rates."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 10/13/2008
- geneven I'm a Fan of geneven 6 fans permalink

Revenues have gone up, but debt has gone up much, much more. Loan me a million bucks and my revenues will go up too, but I'll never be able to pay off the million bucks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 10/13/2008
- Barackaroo I'm a Fan of Barackaroo 5 fans permalink

mcKeptMan will get Cindy Lou Who to cover the losses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 10/13/2008

I would add Ron Paul to that list

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 10/13/2008

Sen. John McCain's 2006 demand for regulatory action on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could have prevented current financial crisis,

McCain's letter -- signed by nineteen other senators -- said that it was "...vitall­y important that Congress take the necessary steps to ensure that [Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac]...ope­rate in a safe and sound manner.[an­d]..More importantly, Congress must ensure that the American taxpayer is protected in the event that either...s­hould fail."

Sen. Obama did not sign the letter, nor did any other Democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 10/13/2008
- ljwaldron I'm a Fan of ljwaldron 3 fans permalink

did they even ask a democrat? or were they doing it to pretend only repubs would look good, just incase. considering neither party has clean hands; your criticism is a little short sighted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 10/13/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 10/13/2008
- Swerinjer I'm a Fan of Swerinjer 9 fans permalink

Repugs say one thing but mean another. By "regulatory action" they probably meant divestiture of the Fred and Fran by the govt so as to make it more privatized. And hence making the problem even worse. idiot. >smack

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 10/13/2008
- Nova16 I'm a Fan of Nova16 34 fans permalink

Then why didn't Mr McCain and the others go after the Gramm, Leach, Billey Act of 1999 that deregulated the credit markets and removed the barrries that separated banking, investments, and insurance. This was the ultimate culprit in bringing this country to financial disaster. The people at Enron may differ with you on McCain and his "finacial advisor" Gramm whose ideas had a lot to do with the Enron collapse. In the meantime, Bush and the republicans were leading the country into a phony war squandering hundreds of billions without end, running up deficits without end, borrowing from abroad without end, and creating a national debt of over 10 trillion without end. Both McCain and Bush were touting the "wonderful" economy just a few days before begging for a "stimulus" package and McCain running to Washington with his pants on "fire" for a "bailout".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 10/13/2008

Accepting what you say is true I have one question. Why didn't the Republican House, Republican Senate, and Republican Executive Branch (who were in COMPLETE CONTROL of the government until January 2007) do anything about it? Plenty of blame to go around but it seems to me to be disingenous to point to the minority Party while all the majority Party did was write a letter on which absolutely NO ACTION was taken by those in a position to do so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 10/13/2008

Sen. Obama sent a separate letter, which Sen. McCain did not sign. What is the point of your last sentence?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 10/13/2008
- pahpah25 I'm a Fan of pahpah25 6 fans permalink

every time i see andrea mitchell on tv , i am reminded of her husband, allan greenspan, and his mis- managemnet[i am being kind] of the FED.....th­ere she is, in her expensive wardrobe etc., most likely paid for by americans who trusted her husbands 'experitis­e'....when he kept lowering the interest rate, dumb ole me, told the family'this is all going to come falling down'.....­.it is a'
'house of paper'....­do not buy into this crap.....a­ltho' i do think greenspan did what he did to support the bush adminstration and its policies..­...like we said 'back in the day'...the rich got richer and the poor got poorer'..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 10/13/2008
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I am 100% sure that Andrea Mitchell makes as much or more money than Alan Greenspan ever did. She was a highly paid anchor before she married him, and she had nice clothes then. I think she is a good reporter, and she should not be getting all this flack b/c she is married to Greenspan. Leave her out of your criticism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 10/13/2008
- Ironquill I'm a Fan of Ironquill 14 fans permalink

I like Andrea. When one thinks of Greenspan, well, just say, condolences are in order. Aa far as Cable News as a whole goes, I can hardly stomach any of it. The single most important thing in this election is to have someone as President who has brains. All Cable can do is rerun clips of Sarah Palin, She is worst kind of crony/amateur and McCain was anchor man in his class at the Naval Academy.
Financial Crisis Management is the number one job of the next President. Obama is the brightest of the brightest--that's what it takes to be selected as head of the LAW REVIEW at Harvard. If there were no other evidence than that, I would vote for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 AM on 10/13/2008
- Erdgeist I'm a Fan of Erdgeist 81 fans permalink
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Krugman just won the Nobel Prize. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aiZmaqpMERE4&refer=us

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 10/13/2008
- ljwaldron I'm a Fan of ljwaldron 3 fans permalink

and very well deserved. I loved listening to him on MSNBC and NPR. He actually makes it understandable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 10/13/2008
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