Kristol Fends Off Criticism, Stands By Suggestion That McCain 'Liberate' Himself

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First Posted: 10-14-08 12:02 PM   |   Updated: 11-14-08 05:12 AM

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[Via ThinkProgress.] Yesterday, Bill Kristol made waves after he offered up the doomsday suggestion that John McCain would be better off blowing up his campaign staff and fending for himself for the final three weeks of the presidential campaign. This proposal was met with stern objection from members of that very campaign. For obvious reasons! But, in fairness, Kristol's suggestion is sort of a non-starter for a candidate who's well known to be critically supported by a coterie of advisers who are lifers. Kristol also fails to take into account that McCain's current staff is the only force on earth that can keep the candidate even slightly grounded and on-message. Absent their influence, McCain would be almost completely governed by whim, wandering alone outside various Ohio Fudge Hauses. Besides, I'm not sure that Kristol's suggestion is any way different from the current governing philosophy of the McCain camp, in which an escalating series of stunts wins every news cycle, and then loses the election.

But whatever! In defending himself, Kristol at least shows that he understands one important truth in this campaign, which is that one can always feel free to make fun of Tucker Bounds:

KRISTOL: Is John McCain the best messenger for his campaign? Why isn't he on this show? Why do we have Tucker Bounds and a bunch of nice young kids who are spokesmen out there spinning implausibly on behalf of the McCain campaign? McCain is better than his campaign. He needs to liberate himself from his campaign.

Of course, if we're going to talk about speaking implausibly, you have to get a load of this load:

KRISTOL: No. It would send the same signal that Bush said when he replaced Rumsfeld, when we were losing the war in Iraq, put different people in charge, took command, overruled the generals, and won the war.

We "won" the Iraq war? Could've fooled...uhm - everybody.

[WATCH.]

CAVUTO: All right, they were not happy to hear your words. A spokesperson from the McCain campaign, earlier today, Bill, listen to this.


[CLIP]

BOUNDS: My response is that there are going to be a lot of people on the sidelines that are willing to say what ever it is that comes to the top of their mind. I know Bill Kristol is an intelligent guy, I just don't think what he had to say was very intelligent, frankly.

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[END CLIP]

CAVUTO: He called you stupid.

KRISTOL: No, no, Tucker said I was an intelligent guy, Neil. You should listen to words of wisdom from McCain spokesmen.

CAVUTO: Three weeks to go, and you are already abandoning ship, that's what they say.

KRISTOL: I'm not abandoning ship, I think McCain can win. I don't think a McCain campaign that has, you know, routine spokesmen out there spinning implausibly, that veers back and forth on message from day to day, and is hiding Sarah Palin -- is Sarah Palin ... is she the right pick or not? If you think she was the right pick, put her on tv, put her on talk radio. Is John McCain the best messenger for his campaign? Why isn't he on this show? Why do we have Tucker Bounds and a bunch of nice young kids who are spokesmen out there spinning implausibly on behalf of the McCain campaign? McCain is better than his campaign. He needs to liberate himself from his campaign.

CAVUTO: Wouldn't that send a real alarm signal? That people would read into that, "Man, oh man, it's the Titanic."

KRISTOL: No. It would send the same signal that Bush said when he replaced Rumsfeld, when we were losing the war in Iraq, put different people in charge, took command, overruled the generals, and won the war.


[Via ThinkProgress.] Yesterday, Bill Kristol made waves after he offered up the doomsday suggestion that John McCain would be better off blowing up his campaign staff and fending for himself for the f...
[Via ThinkProgress.] Yesterday, Bill Kristol made waves after he offered up the doomsday suggestion that John McCain would be better off blowing up his campaign staff and fending for himself for the f...
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- mnyobpres I'm a Fan of mnyobpres 8 fans permalink

Were STILL in a war in IRAQ, I thought we WON that WAR, McCain - are you lying AGAIN...geeezz, your so delusional. When will the LIES cease!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 10/16/2008
- RFBorjal I'm a Fan of RFBorjal 5 fans permalink

Bill Kristol is as delusional as the McCain campaign staff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 AM on 10/15/2008
- tangelan I'm a Fan of tangelan 28 fans permalink
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Did we win a war? I missed that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 10/15/2008
- TheGuide I'm a Fan of TheGuide 6 fans permalink

Me too. Then again, Keith Obermann's been counting down since Bush announced victory yet we're still there. Fighting a war!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 AM on 10/15/2008
- Bill Swadley - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Bill Swadley 32 fans permalink

Mission Accomplished!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 AM on 10/15/2008

Bill Kristol has never been right on one single, solitary issue. In case no one remembers, it was Kristol on Fox News Sunday who called for McCain to pick Palin as Vice President. I'm of the opinion that it was the neo-cons, led by Kristol who pressured the old guy into choosing her. Every one of her handlers are former "Bushies" and Kristol knows precisely why they will not allow her to do one on one interviews.

The "real" Sarah Palin was apparent when she spoke to Katie Couric. I believe they were completely caught off gaurd by her stunning stupidity and have proceeded with her accordingly.

Obama 375 - McCain 163 Landslide my friends, landslide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 10/15/2008
- 4wehttam I'm a Fan of 4wehttam 14 fans permalink

"......stunning stupidity..."

LMAO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 10/15/2008

Similarly, James Moore referred to Palin as "severely incurious and intellectually incapable."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 AM on 10/15/2008
- jeanrenoir I'm a Fan of jeanrenoir 133 fans permalink

Kristol is such a pathetic and desperate fool. His "strategy" for winning for McCain is about as sharp as the neocon "strategy" for winning Iraq. Like the clueless neocons who concocted Iraq as a proxy war for Likud, Kristol arrogantly believes in "magic" for McCain, the magic of starting from scratch three weeks from the election, and "unleashing" the "real" McCain, as if such a person existed anymore, if he ever did. Kristol's sounding as wacko here as he did in his incredibly dumb cheerleading for the hopelessly ignorant and incompetent Palin after her "triumph" at the convention. Kristol and the neocons are dangerous enthusiasts for their own wishful fantasies. They will be eviscerated by the Republican Party on Nov. 5, if there are any Republicans still standing, because the Republicans know full well that it was the stupid neocon war in Iraq which destroyed Bush and the party with him. So the neocons will be ostracized from both the Republican and Democratic parties. On their own, they are going to be politically neutered, because the proponents of the politics and foreign policy of Likud are not even half the 3% of Americans who are Jewish. As the Greeks used to sagely observe, "Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 PM on 10/14/2008
- Gary47 I'm a Fan of Gary47 15 fans permalink

It's like being a fly on the wall of the tiny little right-wing echo chamber.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 10/14/2008

"Won the war"?
Again?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 10/14/2008

yea we win the war ever few weeks, just to keep things positive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 10/14/2008

My thought exactly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 10/15/2008

Have you forgetton "Mission Accomplished"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 10/15/2008
- huffy2001 I'm a Fan of huffy2001 50 fans permalink
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I posted this a bunch already, but I liked it so much I thought I would post it again. I think I'll post it a bunch more...

I have been working this Obama matching donor thing...it's great! You donate a certain amount...$25...$50, etc., and then they find a new donor to match it.

Here's my thinking. Instead of doing a large donation of say $250...$1000, do a WHOLE BUNCH of little donations...$10...$25, whatever you can afford. You get to write a note to the person who matches you.

Explain your rationale...that you made a smaller donation to attract more new donors...AND to allow the new donors room to do the same. Invite them to participate! Imagine if you donated 10 $25 gifts instead of one $250, and did it as a match. Then each of those people did 10...and then each of those did 10 and so on. It's a pyramid for our country's future! With no losers except those who have been trying to roll back the 20th Century for the past 3 decades.

Let's take our country back!

Here's the link:

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/finalmatch11?match_campaign_id=16&match_is_pledge=1&source=20081014_DP_D1_X

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 10/14/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 644 fans permalink
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Won the War?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 10/14/2008

It's official. Bill Kristol said Bush won the war. Now our victimized American forces can come home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 10/14/2008
- byrdland49 I'm a Fan of byrdland49 5 fans permalink
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Exactly...even when Kristol says something halfway intelligent (McCain's campaign is out of control, fire the managers) he simply has it in his DNA to come out with the most outrageous, stupid lies. Since we won the war, Iraq must be safe...I would suggest to Mr. Kristol that he go stroll down any thoroughfare in Baghdad, Mosul or Fallujah and see how far he makes it.

And don't bring McCain's Apache helicopters either, Billy-boy. As Bugs Bunny used to say, "What a dubloon".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 10/14/2008
- Aanvil I'm a Fan of Aanvil 2 fans permalink
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We won the war?

When did that happen?

Last night?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 10/14/2008

Of course the war was won. Bin Laden was captured. He's the October surprise, and holed up in a secret FBI location.
After all how difficult is it to capture the most recognised man on the planet, suffering from kidney issues and from Hep C?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 10/15/2008

DEBUNKING THE BRADLEY EFFECT

The Defect Of "The Bradley Effect"
Of course the bees-nest stirring media is going to go there.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/13/obama.bradley.effect/index.html

Why It's All BS
The 1982 Bradley effect wasn't even an effect...it was Deukmejian closing the voter gap
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/the_bradley_effect
_selective_m.html

MORE
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-morrison2-2008
oct02,0,7150.column

REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF MCCAIN
http://www.jedreport.com/shipjumpers/

AUDIO OF REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF MCCAIN
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/10/conservatives-lay-blame-as-oba
.html

Even Bill Kristol who used his column as a LOVE LETTER to Sarah Palin
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/opinion/13kristol.html?_r=1&oref
=slogin&ref=opinion&pagewanted=print

ACORN VOTER REGISTRATION FRAUD DEBUNKED!!!
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OH_VOTER_FRAUD_OHOL-?
SITE=OHWOO&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

MCCAIN HATES ACORN…OH REALLY…HE DIDN’T IN 2006!!!

McCain at an ACORN meeting
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/10/mccain-to-acorn-you-are-what
-m.html

ALL LINKS COURTESY OF www.therandirhodesshow.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 PM on 10/14/2008
- rich misty I'm a Fan of rich misty 1041 fans permalink
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http://election.princeton.edu/2008/10/14/get-on-the-bus/#more-1831

Lab Director Sam Wang asks that we please "Get on the Bus"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 10/14/2008

Hello to all commentators,

All the commercials, pundits, gaffes, personal attacks, and the MSM will not dictate the outcome of this election. THE GROUND GAME IS WHERE ELECTIONS ARE WON, AND LOST!

Before you go to the next left leaning article to comment on, or right leaning article to start an argument with a republican (which will no doubt end with them calling you an unpatriotic socialist wimp) May I suggest that you get in the game.

Please visit my personal fundraising page below:

http://my.barackobama.com/page/outreach/view/main/craigcubberly

If you cannot afford to donate money there are many other ways to help below :

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/statepages

Take a look. It is a lot of fun, and very satisfying to get involved. You will really feel as though you are making a difference.

Thanks Craig

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 10/14/2008
- PT6 I'm a Fan of PT6 25 fans permalink

Kristol should START "Thinking Republicans for Obama" as a NEW WEBSITE and publication.

There are now at least a hundred "Well Known Republican THINKERS who support Obama!"

We need COOPERATION in this country and the BEST IDEAS from all of THEM!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 10/14/2008
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