McCain Camp Lies About VA Crowd Size

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First Posted: 10-14-08 08:50 AM   |   Updated: 11-14-08 05:12 AM

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WVEC reports:

Republican John McCain pledged to fight for a new direction for the country in an energetic new campaign stump speech Monday that sought to distance him from the economic policies of President Bush.


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The Virginia Beach Fire Marshal's office estimated the size of the crowd to be 12,000. A McCain campaign spokeswoman claimed the crowd size was 25,000, but the Convention Center's capacity is only 16,000.

It's not the first time, either:

Senator John McCain has drawn some of the biggest crowds of his presidential campaign since adding Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to his ticket on Aug. 29. Now officials say they can't substantiate the figures McCain's aides are claiming.


McCain aide Kimmie Lipscomb told reporters on Sept. 10 that an outdoor rally in Fairfax City, Virginia, drew 23,000 people, attributing the crowd estimate to a fire marshal.

Fairfax City Fire Marshal Andrew Wilson said his office did not supply that number to the campaign and could not confirm it. Wilson, in an interview, said the fire department does not monitor attendance at outdoor events.

In recent days, journalists attending the rallies have been raising questions about the crowd estimates with the campaign. In a story on Sept. 11 about Palin's attraction for some Virginia women voters, Washington Post reporter Marc Fisher estimated the crowd to be 8,000, not the 23,000 cited by the campaign.

WVEC reports: Republican John McCain pledged to fight for a new direction for the country in an energetic new campaign stump speech Monday that sought to distance him from the economic policies of P...
WVEC reports: Republican John McCain pledged to fight for a new direction for the country in an energetic new campaign stump speech Monday that sought to distance him from the economic policies of P...
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- BellGirl08 I'm a Fan of BellGirl08 5 fans permalink

Of course they lied, they lie about everything big and small. Every time any of them open their mouths, a lie comes out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 10/14/2008

I agree. But it's almost over now..good riddens!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 10/14/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

The republicans are getting a bad reputation for being LIARS, RACISTS, CONNIVERS, CROOKS, MONEY MONGERS, SELFISH individuals who care only for their own personal welfare.

These people have been taught to be this way from birth and I hope they see their ways are totally out of date and non-beneficial to the masses. We do not live in this world for our own benefit only.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 10/14/2008
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Actually, I do believe Republicans have always had that reputation­........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 10/14/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

You're probably right, but I just never noticed it before this election. I'm so glad I woke up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 10/14/2008
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We are supposed to be surprised that one of the McCain blooper group mistated the size of the crowd? What haven't these creeps lied about during the weeks they've been on the stump?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 10/14/2008
- indc I'm a Fan of indc 17 fans permalink

not only lies, but dumb lies

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 10/14/2008

Because they are dummies!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 10/14/2008
- tydicea I'm a Fan of tydicea 9 fans permalink
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Another direction, same avenue of lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 10/14/2008
- Otaku1031 I'm a Fan of Otaku1031 9 fans permalink

When supporters started chanting "No-Bama, No-Bama," Palin jumped in to say voter anger was driven by economic woes.

"There's anger about the insider dealing of lobbyists. Anger about the greed on Wall Street. Anger about the arrogance of the Washington elite," she said.

Did Palin forget that her campaign is being run by the same lobbyists that people are so angry about?

The economic issues are just a part of why voters are angry. I'm angry that the Bush administration has destroyed the standing of my country in the eyes of the world, that it has tortured people in my name, that it has murdered hundreds of thousands of innocents, including our own soldiers, in a war based on and propagated with lies. These are some of the reasons why I am angry. To say that the economic meltdown is the driving force behind voter anger is to greatly oversimplify the reaction. Yes, we need change of government, but anyone who thinks that McCain is willing or able to reform Washington is deluded.

Obama/Biden '08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 10/14/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

Palin is so clueless that it's not surprising she names the main people who are beind McCain's entire campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 10/14/2008

aren't "mccain" and "palin" just synonyms for "liars"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 10/14/2008
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Politicians should be held to a higher level, not a lower one. What the last eight years (actually since Reagan) and this ridiculous campaign have shown here is that there needs to be laws against politicians making untrue statements. Imagine that, politicians who will be thrown in jail for lying about their record, lying about policy, and for defamation. How many counts would McCain be charged with?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 10/14/2008
- majorteddy I'm a Fan of majorteddy 7 fans permalink

Liar, Liar , pants on fire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 10/14/2008

*** WATCH Sarah Palin admit that Obama’s message was “ RESONATING WELL ” with Alaskans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO6dmBm1SFw&NR=1

This was right before she was picked as McCain’s VP!

She had no problems with Obama before being picked as VP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 10/14/2008
- ebanks84 I'm a Fan of ebanks84 94 fans permalink

That alone let's you know that being a republican is being a FAKE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 10/14/2008
- huffyfan2 I'm a Fan of huffyfan2 4 fans permalink

Maybe, Obama should use these in ads.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 10/14/2008

John, now you are having imaginary "friends"? Seems there are not so many real "friends" anymore...­.
Put the country first, like you always promise, and retire already, would you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 10/14/2008
- RThM I'm a Fan of RThM 4 fans permalink

I knew it! They're lying again. I was suspiscious when the crowd at Richmond was described as "massive." You can bet your last dollar that when a Republican says it's massive, they're padding it out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 10/14/2008
- Budokan I'm a Fan of Budokan 201 fans permalink
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Hey, whaddya mean the McCain camp is lying....i­s this something new?

BWAHAHAHA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 10/14/2008
- Paula1953 I'm a Fan of Paula1953 6 fans permalink
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Check it out.......­.....even Alaskans are more in support of an Obama/Biden administration.

http://www.ketchikandailynews.com/

You can vote for your choice here as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 10/14/2008

No big deal. They were all pre-screened anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 10/14/2008
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