McCain Camp Lies About VA Crowd Size

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The Huffington Post   |  Rachel Weiner
First Posted: 10-14-08 08:50 AM   |   Updated: 11-14-08 05:12 AM

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WVEC reports:

Republican John McCain pledged to fight for a new direction for the country in an energetic new campaign stump speech Monday that sought to distance him from the economic policies of President Bush.


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The Virginia Beach Fire Marshal's office estimated the size of the crowd to be 12,000. A McCain campaign spokeswoman claimed the crowd size was 25,000, but the Convention Center's capacity is only 16,000.

It's not the first time, either:

Senator John McCain has drawn some of the biggest crowds of his presidential campaign since adding Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to his ticket on Aug. 29. Now officials say they can't substantiate the figures McCain's aides are claiming.


McCain aide Kimmie Lipscomb told reporters on Sept. 10 that an outdoor rally in Fairfax City, Virginia, drew 23,000 people, attributing the crowd estimate to a fire marshal.

Fairfax City Fire Marshal Andrew Wilson said his office did not supply that number to the campaign and could not confirm it. Wilson, in an interview, said the fire department does not monitor attendance at outdoor events.

In recent days, journalists attending the rallies have been raising questions about the crowd estimates with the campaign. In a story on Sept. 11 about Palin's attraction for some Virginia women voters, Washington Post reporter Marc Fisher estimated the crowd to be 8,000, not the 23,000 cited by the campaign.

WVEC reports: Republican John McCain pledged to fight for a new direction for the country in an energetic new campaign stump speech Monday that sought to distance him from the economic policies of P...
WVEC reports: Republican John McCain pledged to fight for a new direction for the country in an energetic new campaign stump speech Monday that sought to distance him from the economic policies of P...
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- Jan6 I'm a Fan of Jan6 permalink

The reporter did a great job with this article. Instead of just repeating what McCain said, they included additional information. When McCain made a false claim about Obama, they included a mention of what Obama actually said. When McCain brought up measuring the drapes they included the actual references from years ago...and so on. Really nice job of not being a parrot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 10/14/2008

When ask about this article John McCain reportedly had this to say;
"My friends, this reporter is a liar just like Senator Obama my friends. My friends I will stay up and fight to the bitter end my friends please elect me your leader so I can avenge my treatment at war but bomb bombing Iran. Oh way, I was suppose give my economic speech, Can we start over my friends Maverick!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 10/14/2008
- Mikeeee I'm a Fan of Mikeeee 65 fans permalink

Seems mccain'palin keep reminding us everday just how much they;re like bushco. They're incapable of telling the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 10/14/2008
- nmjangirl I'm a Fan of nmjangirl 2 fans permalink

This isn't the first time they have lied about crowd size. It's pathetic that they can't get the massive crowds that O gets and they lie. So childish.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 10/14/2008
- ROBOT8 I'm a Fan of ROBOT8 18 fans permalink
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STICKING WITH THE PLAY BOOK......­.......J.M­. IS ABOUT THE FINAL SOLUTION!!!!!!!WAKE UP!!!!!!
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, THE TRUTH IS THE GREATEST ENEMY OF THE STATE." -- Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 10/14/2008
- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 305 fans permalink
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..........­. 25,000 including 13,000 Mooses from Alaska.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 10/14/2008
- cactusgal I'm a Fan of cactusgal 106 fans permalink

From the look on his face, I fear that Cindy is cruisin' for a bruisin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 10/14/2008
- Viper I'm a Fan of Viper 265 fans permalink

Republicans and truth shall never be joined!


Regards

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 10/14/2008
- mrJJ I'm a Fan of mrJJ 23 fans permalink

McCain forced to resort to PAID canvassers in Florida ... link

In addition to the polls going his way, Obama has 150,000 VOLUNTEERS in Florida.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/13/mccain_hiring_paid_canvassers.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 10/14/2008
- HopeGirl I'm a Fan of HopeGirl 25 fans permalink

he can't get the number of white hoods sitting in front of him right, how is he going to fix the economy?

don't need another fuzzy number pres ya know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 10/14/2008

Why do you have to go out of your way to lie about your Campaign's crowd-size? Amazing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 10/14/2008

I think the GOP gets the local high schools, private and public, to dump out all of their kids at these rallies. You see these kids who are not old enough to vote backstopping the stage. It's all froth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 10/14/2008
- SCVADem I'm a Fan of SCVADem 15 fans permalink
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If anyone was at the Richmond rally yesterday, there were school buses in the pictures I've seen. Anyone know where they were from?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 10/14/2008
- mercuryguy I'm a Fan of mercuryguy 2 fans permalink

can we all ask, Who is the Real McCane?
Is he the one lying on the crowd size??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 10/14/2008
- Progress08 I'm a Fan of Progress08 22 fans permalink
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McCain opens mouth and a lie falls out
Palin opens mouth and stupid falls out

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 10/14/2008
- forpeace I'm a Fan of forpeace 305 fans permalink
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Progress08
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Correction:

Palin opens mouth and lie + stupid fall out

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 AM on 10/14/2008
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lol - i just posted rachel's final comments last night.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 10/14/2008
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No one bothered to check the venue's capacity before lying about the number of rally attendees? Wow. Where's Frum to frame this as mathematical equivalence and compare us with Wolfowitz?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 10/14/2008
- Whinger I'm a Fan of Whinger 46 fans permalink
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Revelation 22: 15 (King James Version)
For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie!
Matthew 15:8-9
This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Not that John or Sarah and their christian followers believe that for a milli-second!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 10/14/2008
- rmreddicks I'm a Fan of rmreddicks 35 fans permalink
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Ah, that ol' bible! It's got a whipsaw for everyone! But I liked that one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 10/14/2008
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