Stocks plunge anew as data points to recession

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TIM PARADIS | October 15, 2008 06:31 PM EST | AP

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Specialist Ned Zelles works on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange Wednesday, Oct. 15, 2008. Despair over the economy sent Wall Street plunging again Wednesday, propelling the Dow Jones industrials down 733 points to their second-largest point loss ever. (AP Photo/Richard Drew)

NEW YORK — Investors agonizing over a faltering economy sent the stock market plunging all over again Wednesday after a stream of disheartening data convinced Wall Street that a recession, if not already here, is inevitable. The market's despair propelled the Dow Jones industrials down 733 points to their second-largest point loss ever, and the major indexes all lost at least 7 percent.

The slide meant that the Dow, which fell 76 points on Tuesday, has given back all but 127 points of its record 936-point gain of Monday, which came on optimism about the banking system in response to the government's plans to invest up to $250 billion in financial institutions.

Wednesday's sell-off began after the government's report that retail sales plunged in September by 1.2 percent _ almost double the 0.7 percent analysts expected _ made it clear that consumers are reluctant to spend amid a shaky economy and a punishing stock market.

The Commerce Department report was sobering because consumer spending accounts for more than two-thirds of U.S. economic activity. The reading came as Wall Street was refocusing its attention on the faltering economy following stepped up government efforts to revive the stagnant lending markets.

Then, during the afternoon, the release of the Beige Book, the assessment of business conditions from the Federal Reserve, added to investors' angst. The report found that the economy continued to slow in the early fall as financial and credit market problems took a turn for the worse. The central bank's report supported the market's belief that difficulties in obtaining loans have choked growth in wide swaths of the economy.

"Even though the banking sector may be returning to normal, the economy still isn't. The economy continues to face a host of other problems," said Doug Roberts, chief investment strategist at ChannelCapitalResearch.com. "We're in for a tough ride."

Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke offered a similar opinion, warning in a speech Wednesday that patching up the credit markets won't provide an instantaneous jolt to the economy.

"Stabilization of the financial markets is a critical first step, but even if they stabilize as we hope they will, broader economic recovery will not happen right away," he told the Economic Club of New York.

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Analysts have warned that the market will see continued volatility as it tries to recover from the devastating losses of the last month, including the nearly 2,400-point plunge in the Dow over the eight sessions that ended Friday. Such turbulence is typical after a huge decline, but the market's anxiety about the economy was also expected to cause gyrations in the weeks and months ahead.

Selling accelerated in the last hour of trading, a common occurrence during the eight days of heavy declines. One reason for the heavy selling: Mutual funds need to unload stock to pay investors who are bailing out of the market.

Investors apparently have come to believe that Monday's big rebound over the banking sector was overdone given the problems elsewhere in the economy.

"It really doesn't come as a shock after Monday's gains were, I think, a little bit excessive," said Charles Norton, principal and portfolio manager at GNICapital, referring to the market's pullback.

He contends that the government has taken so many steps to help the financial system that investors must now wait for some of the actions to help steady the economy.

"It seems like all the tools in the tool chest have mostly been used now and now it's back to reality," he said. "We're still faced with the fact that the economy is slowing and earnings aren't very good."

Doubts about the economy were already surfacing in Tuesday's session, when investors halted an early rally and began collecting profits from stocks' big Monday advance. Wednesday's data confirmed the market's fears that the economy is likely to remain weak for some time, and that corporate profits are likely to suffer.

Mark Coffelt, portfolio manager at Empiric Funds, said moves by European and U.S. government officials to begin investing directly in banks are easing worries about credit. But the steep pullback in stocks that began last month after the credit markets lurched to a near standstill has now created worries that consumers will spend less after seeing the value of their retirement accounts and other investments drop.

"Markets abhor uncertainty and so we got a lot of that resolved this weekend and we got the reward Monday but now people are saying 'OK, now what is the economy going to do?'"

"We're definitely going to get a slowdown from the terror of going through that," Coffelt said.

The Dow ended down 733.08, or 7.87 percent, at 8,577.91. On Monday, Sept. 29, the Dow had its largest point drop 777.68. Wednesday's percentage drop was the biggest since the 8.04 percent of Oct. 26, 1987, which followed Black Monday, the Oct. 19 crash that sent the blue chips down 22.6 percent in a single session.

The Dow's massive decline Wednesday marks its 20th triple-digit move in 23 sessions.

Broader stock indicators also skidded. The Standard & Poor's 500 index fell 90.17, or 9.03 percent, to 907.84, and the Nasdaq composite index fell 150.68, or 8.47 percent, to 1,628.33.

It was the lowest close for the Nasdaq since June 30, 2003, when the index finished at 1,622.80. The Dow and the S&P 500 are also at mid-2003 levels.

The Dow is down 39.4 percent from its Oct. 9, 2007 closing high of 14,164.53. The S&P is down 42 percent from its high at the same time of 1,565.15. The Nasdaq's record high was 5,048.62, during the dot-com boom that swelled the index to levels it has not come close to regaining after the high-tech bubble burst.

U.S. stock market paper losses came to $1.1 trillion Wednesday, according to the Dow Jones Wilshire 5000 Composite Index, which represents nearly all stocks traded in America.

Wednesday's losses came as investors were hoping the market would recover from last week's terrible run, which erased about $2.4 trillion in shareholder wealth and brought the Dow to its lowest level since April 2003. The tumble occurred amid a seize-up in lending stemming from a lack of trust among institutions in response to the bankruptcy of investment bank Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and the failure of Washington Mutual Inc., which had been the nation's largest thrift.

The credit markets have been showing tentative signs of recovery, though they remain strained. The three-month Treasury bill on Wednesday was yielding 0.20 percent, down from 0.30 percent on Tuesday. Overall, yields remain low, showing that demand is so high that investors are willing to earn meager returns as long as their principal is preserved.

The yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note, which moves opposite its price, fell to 3.98 percent from 4.03 percent late Tuesday.

About 350 stocks advanced at the New York Stock Exchange, while about 2,800 declined. Consolidated volume came to 6.4 billion shares, down from 7.97 billion traded Tuesday.

The Russell 2000 index of smaller companies fell 52.54, or 9.47 percent, to 502.11.

Light, sweet crude fell $4.09 to settle at $74.54 per barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

In Asian trading, Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index lost nearly 5 percent after rising more than 13 percent the previous two days. Markets in Australia, South Korea, China, India and Singapore also sank. Japan's Nikkei 225 index, however, ended up 1.1 percent after soaring 14 percent in the previous session.

In Europe, Britain's FTSE 100 fell 7.08 percent, Germany's DAX index fell 6.49 percent, and France's CAC-40 fell 6.82 percent.

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NEW YORK — Investors agonizing over a faltering economy sent the stock market plunging all over again Wednesday after a stream of disheartening data convinced Wall Street that a recession, if no...
NEW YORK — Investors agonizing over a faltering economy sent the stock market plunging all over again Wednesday after a stream of disheartening data convinced Wall Street that a recession, if no...
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Anyone else hear the annoying sound of a BB rolling around in an empty bucket?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 10/15/2008

Now I like to be fair, unlike you guys.

The look on JM's face when O said the fine for his health plan would be zero was priceless.

He was like "OMG..WTF??" You kidding me?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 10/15/2008

It was a "Deer in the headlights" look

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 10/15/2008
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..or a "Moose in the headlights".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 10/15/2008

That WAS priceless.

Sorry, I don't compliment classless "cockamamie" old men.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 10/15/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 143 fans permalink
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Yeah, as a matter of fact - dazed & confused, as usual -

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 10/15/2008

Perhaps McPalin will now realize that 90% of the voters don't give a goodgoddamn about Ayers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 10/15/2008

Or her!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 10/15/2008
- HypnoToad I'm a Fan of HypnoToad 48 fans permalink
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That I would not count on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 10/15/2008

Was it just me or did I hear McCain far t during the debate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 10/15/2008
- GerryS I'm a Fan of GerryS 39 fans permalink
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that was his brain exhaling---

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 10/15/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 143 fans permalink
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Several times, per my count -

or was that my dog ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 10/15/2008
- spunky5408 I'm a Fan of spunky5408 24 fans permalink

Biden is gonna let loose on JM at his next rally!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 10/15/2008
- lohy I'm a Fan of lohy 17 fans permalink

McCain is gonna play he// going back to he senate.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 10/15/2008
- lohy I'm a Fan of lohy 17 fans permalink

Now, on to that Verizon story.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 10/15/2008
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CNN Poll Debate Results

Sen. John McCain 13% 10176
Sen. Barack Obama 84% 66135
No clear winner 3% 2313

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 10/15/2008

I thought Scheiffer did a good job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 10/15/2008
- GypsyRose I'm a Fan of GypsyRose 46 fans permalink

Yep, I agree.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 10/15/2008

I agree, the winner tonight was....

Joe the Plumber.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 10/15/2008
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fuckjoetheplumber. he's friends with McCain according to him. He kept curiously calling him "my friend"?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 10/15/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 230 fans permalink
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It's his imaginary friend. Actually, he has two of those...and that's who he's really talking to every time he says 'My friends'. The other one is Bob the Builder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 10/15/2008
- GypsyRose I'm a Fan of GypsyRose 46 fans permalink

Hey, hey, hey missy, you might want to zip it up when you're speaking about my soon to be "future ex-husband." How would YOU feel if I spoke of your lover whom you have yet to meet, that way? The nerve. I accept your apology.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 10/15/2008
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I'm being to think that the "my friends" phrase is a yet unresolved glitch in the vocal subroutine programming of a race of androids that is attempting to take over the planet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 10/15/2008
- liseworks I'm a Fan of liseworks 143 fans permalink
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Plumber / McCains' proctologist = smae thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 10/15/2008
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I knew someone would eventually go there. I am glad it was you liseworks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 10/15/2008

Poor Yup Yup.

won't be able to put an old sofa on the front porch of the Vice President's house.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 10/15/2008

No run down car in the rose garden? Awwwwwww.........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 10/15/2008
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LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 10/15/2008
- lohy I'm a Fan of lohy 17 fans permalink

No old fridge either...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 10/15/2008
- EarthToZoey I'm a Fan of EarthToZoey 226 fans permalink
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Palin = Blip in the history books, nothing else. She'll have a short burn like Katherine Harris did and then POOF! out like a light.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 10/15/2008
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Wow. It's over! If JM could sit there without making all those faces and weird noises he might have done better...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 10/15/2008
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What was that in his left jowl? A mouthful of acorns?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 10/15/2008
- mrsmdressup I'm a Fan of mrsmdressup 333 fans permalink
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Acorns

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 10/15/2008
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Nope. Ther gerbil implanted in his cheek is struggling to get out

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 10/15/2008
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He couldn't. He's one big snark.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 10/15/2008
- lohy I'm a Fan of lohy 17 fans permalink

He viscerally hates Barack.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 10/15/2008
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Too bad for him, he has zero self control.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 10/15/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 230 fans permalink
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Wait until he sees all the polls. Run for cover, Cindy, don't go home tonight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 10/15/2008
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The question has been answered, McCain can blink more than Palin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 10/15/2008

LOL! He outdid her tonight, for sure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 10/15/2008
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Blinky and Winky.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 10/15/2008

Blinky, Winky and Todd

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 10/15/2008

Someone said last debate - Winkin', Blinkin', and Todd.

LOL!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 10/15/2008
- mrsmdressup I'm a Fan of mrsmdressup 333 fans permalink
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He can blink more than a call girl with tourettes

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 10/15/2008
- HypnoToad I'm a Fan of HypnoToad 48 fans permalink
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Nice

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 10/15/2008
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Very good!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 10/15/2008

http://www.polls.newsvine.com/_question/2008/10/15/2003100-who-won-the-debate

http://www.cnn.com/

http://elections.foxnews.com/


Go vote if you haven't. Obama kicked old man butt!

Don't go to Drudge, he'll thank you for your vote, then steal it. The number didn't change when I went there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 10/15/2008

testin 123

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 10/15/2008
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workin 456

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dancin 789

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 10/15/2008
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celebratin 789

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 10/15/2008
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Joe must be the proctologist and pharmacist for McCain to know him so well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 10/15/2008
- andvoodoo2 I'm a Fan of andvoodoo2 119 fans permalink
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Or at least a lobbyist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 10/15/2008
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His nickname is "Stinky".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 10/15/2008
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