Joe The Plumber: Not A Tax Expert

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First Posted: 10-16-08 11:37 AM   |   Updated: 11-16-08 05:12 AM

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Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher, a.k.a. "Joe the Plumber," is the topic of the day on the campaign trail, in part because he held an impromptu press conference Thursday morning in front of his house to discuss tax policy, his disdain for Social Security, and his critiques of Barack Obama.

Already, however, there is some dispute as to whether or not Wurzelbacher was being accurate with his critique of Obama. His business, as ABC reports, would almost certainly get a tax cut under Obama's plan, given that he does not expect to make anywhere close to $250,000 in profits.

Moreover, for someone worried about his taxes, Wurzelbacher doesn't -- it appears - always pay them. A filing with the Lucas County Court of Common Pleas shows that he has had state tax liens filed against him, meaning he was either delinquent or didn't fully cover taxes that he owed.

A representative at the court explained that Wurzelbacher had not paid $1,182.98 of personal income tax. The state filed a lien on January 26, 2007, and the payment remains outstanding. But the court rep also cautioned that this all may have occurred without Wurzelbacher's knowledge.

"We get hundreds of state liens every day and we don't have to make a judgment on them. We are just putting in there what the state says is owed. We don't notify that person and neither does the state. If there was activity on this lien, if they attempted to collect it on this case - which they haven't -- it would show up. But I am 99.9 percent positive that he doesn't even know about this."

Tax-issues aside, the "Joe-the-Plumber" fervor seems to be spreading beyond small town Ohio. On the streets of Manhattan this morning, a plumbing company car was spotted with a "Joe The Plumber For President" poster on its side.

But before Obama supporters fret about losing the plumber vote, it's worth noting that the United Association of Plumbers and Pipefitters has endorsed the Illinois Democrat, in part because the union thinks he has the best economic agenda for its members.

"Obama will help us keep existing jobs and work to develop new, higher paying jobs here in America, reform our health care system, fix our ailing schools and make sure that the pensions of our retirees are safe," the union said.

Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher, a.k.a. "Joe the Plumber," is the topic of the day on the campaign trail, in part because he held an impromptu press conference Thursday morning in front of his house to dis...
Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher, a.k.a. "Joe the Plumber," is the topic of the day on the campaign trail, in part because he held an impromptu press conference Thursday morning in front of his house to dis...
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- Rictracee I'm a Fan of Rictracee 108 fans permalink
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LOL.. Joe The Plumber is not even a plumber.. it all was a lie.. this guy has only made 40,000 thousand a year? he not buying a company.. and furthermore he is not REGISTERED TO VOTE PERIOD.. this was just a plant by the McCain camp to try to pigeon hole Obama.. WTF?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 10/17/2008
- Yuma I'm a Fan of Yuma 3 fans permalink
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Another lie from Rethugs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 AM on 10/17/2008

OR A SET UP?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 10/17/2008
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The truly sad thing about his lies are, there are actaul plumbers out there who are suffering and hurting, and need President O to help them with a tax break, and here this arse is out lying. The GOP makes me sick.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 10/17/2008
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Do these people not vet anyone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 AM on 10/17/2008

Trust the mavericks for confusing issues with innuendos. Get real, Sir.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 AM on 10/17/2008
- Salome I'm a Fan of Salome 4 fans permalink
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Joe the Plumber needs Jane the Decorator to tell him to get that butt-ugly green velour couch the hell out of his living room.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 10/17/2008
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lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 10/17/2008
- wbarley I'm a Fan of wbarley 3 fans permalink
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Joe doesn't make $250K a year, not even close. He claimed he was interested in buying his bosses plumbing business which was making $250K a year. He's been interviewed about whether or not he's a plumber, and he noted he works under his bosses license. So he's an unlicensed plumber, great. His last reported income is about $40K and the bosses company's actual revenue is more like $100K. Sounds like the guy was a total set up to question Obama and put him on the spot. Joe appears to be a big phony.
No wonder he keeps telling everyone not to listen to his opinion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 10/16/2008

"The plumber's crack heard round the world"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 PM on 10/16/2008

Maybe HuffPro should run the story of Al the Plumber, for a more realistic view of the financial dilemmas faced by small businesses. It's an interesting story, and Al appears to be a genuine plumber.

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/31112804.html?video=pop&t=a&brand=mkevideo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 10/16/2008

Joe, I know plumbers, and you sir are not a plumber. Joe, John knows how to fix things, I suggest you give him a call.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 10/16/2008
- Britta100 I'm a Fan of Britta100 2 fans permalink

I'd never want to be in the public eye. For what? So the media can dig into my past.. I say leave Joe the plumber alone . He's entitled to his opinion without the media looking for something to discredit him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 10/16/2008

It wasn't a difficult job to find his problems!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 AM on 10/17/2008

Grampa, McCain brought him up 100 times last night. How are the media supposed to ignore him?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 AM on 10/17/2008
- afgail I'm a Fan of afgail 58 fans permalink

Joe the Plumber is a willing dupe. Don waste your time feeling sorry for him. John McScrewup can't get anything right. Is the entire Republican party peopled with screw ups and liars?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 AM on 10/17/2008
- optech007 I'm a Fan of optech007 6 fans permalink

Do any of these facts about Joe change what Obama said?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 10/16/2008

i wonder how much the rnc paid joe the plumber..t­he ringer.... he looks like the typical white supremist republican to me

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 10/16/2008

Christ, can't even find a real plumber when you need one, eh John.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 10/16/2008
- kewps I'm a Fan of kewps 11 fans permalink
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Is anybody else beyond tired of this guy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 10/16/2008
- majorteddy I'm a Fan of majorteddy 7 fans permalink

This guy is dumber than a rock.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 10/16/2008

thats a condescending remark if you are a rock!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 AM on 10/17/2008
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