Joe The Plumber: Not A Tax Expert

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First Posted: 10-16-08 11:37 AM   |   Updated: 11-16-08 05:12 AM

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Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher, a.k.a. "Joe the Plumber," is the topic of the day on the campaign trail, in part because he held an impromptu press conference Thursday morning in front of his house to discuss tax policy, his disdain for Social Security, and his critiques of Barack Obama.

Already, however, there is some dispute as to whether or not Wurzelbacher was being accurate with his critique of Obama. His business, as ABC reports, would almost certainly get a tax cut under Obama's plan, given that he does not expect to make anywhere close to $250,000 in profits.

Moreover, for someone worried about his taxes, Wurzelbacher doesn't -- it appears - always pay them. A filing with the Lucas County Court of Common Pleas shows that he has had state tax liens filed against him, meaning he was either delinquent or didn't fully cover taxes that he owed.

A representative at the court explained that Wurzelbacher had not paid $1,182.98 of personal income tax. The state filed a lien on January 26, 2007, and the payment remains outstanding. But the court rep also cautioned that this all may have occurred without Wurzelbacher's knowledge.

"We get hundreds of state liens every day and we don't have to make a judgment on them. We are just putting in there what the state says is owed. We don't notify that person and neither does the state. If there was activity on this lien, if they attempted to collect it on this case - which they haven't -- it would show up. But I am 99.9 percent positive that he doesn't even know about this."

Tax-issues aside, the "Joe-the-Plumber" fervor seems to be spreading beyond small town Ohio. On the streets of Manhattan this morning, a plumbing company car was spotted with a "Joe The Plumber For President" poster on its side.

But before Obama supporters fret about losing the plumber vote, it's worth noting that the United Association of Plumbers and Pipefitters has endorsed the Illinois Democrat, in part because the union thinks he has the best economic agenda for its members.

"Obama will help us keep existing jobs and work to develop new, higher paying jobs here in America, reform our health care system, fix our ailing schools and make sure that the pensions of our retirees are safe," the union said.

Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher, a.k.a. "Joe the Plumber," is the topic of the day on the campaign trail, in part because he held an impromptu press conference Thursday morning in front of his house to dis...
Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher, a.k.a. "Joe the Plumber," is the topic of the day on the campaign trail, in part because he held an impromptu press conference Thursday morning in front of his house to dis...
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- Deadmoose I'm a Fan of Deadmoose 5 fans permalink

I feel cheated. This was what a national debate was about. Joe get a license and come fix my toilet - you owe me that much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 10/16/2008

no license ? oh they are going to h.a.n.g you to dry now...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 10/16/2008

and suspend his plumbing

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 10/16/2008

joe joe joe....

didn t pay your taxes eh ?

better install a lot of pipes to pay for the lawyers now

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 10/16/2008

Unwed Pregnant Teens, High School Dropouts, Sixpacks and someone posing as someone else.

McCain/Palin08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 10/16/2008
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Does Joe have any kids you could go after?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 10/16/2008

imposter plumber....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 10/16/2008
- DeSwiss I'm a Fan of DeSwiss 35 fans permalink
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Only you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 10/16/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 10/16/2008
- taceva I'm a Fan of taceva 3 fans permalink

I BELIEVE THIS IS THAT ACTOR FROM THE TV SHOW THE SHIELD

WE'VE BEEN PUNK 'D

???WHERES ASHTON KUTCHER??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 10/16/2008
- garymc8 I'm a Fan of garymc8 51 fans permalink
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Keatings nephew

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 10/16/2008

Vote for the Real Joe. Obama/Biden

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 10/16/2008
- Freakpower I'm a Fan of Freakpower 20 fans permalink
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Joe is his middle name, and he doesn't have a plumbers license, and he doesn't believe in social security.

He sounds like a Great candidate for the Alaska Separatists Movement!

Wingnut!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 10/16/2008

but he did stay in a holiday inn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 10/16/2008
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DOH!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 10/16/2008
- genia I'm a Fan of genia 27 fans permalink
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So ..now the only question is...how much did Joe make out of this little stunt?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 10/16/2008

5,000 tax refund, directly to the insurance company.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 10/16/2008
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He's looking at a HUGE FINE for doing unlicensed work in that county.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 10/16/2008

Oh sure. It is all about average Joe. Nothing about us Average Dicks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 10/16/2008

He's a McC. campaign "plant".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 10/16/2008

Obama was on his street campaigning. The guy just came out of his house...on the street he lives on and asked a perfectly good question.

Did the GOP somehow plan that? Get Obama to go to Joe's street?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 10/16/2008

How do you know they didn't? I wouldn't put anything past the repug's....also, don't think the guy is bright enough to have conjured up his question to Obama that suddenly!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 10/16/2008
- patianneb I'm a Fan of patianneb 18 fans permalink
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OK, so he doesn't believe in social security and evidently he has issues with taxes....sounds a lot like a Toddbuddy to me...
Libertarian in shavedhead drag or .... transplanted alaska secessionist ... or .....
Does anyone find this guy even remotely interesting or r e l e v a n t ?
Besides the T h r e e T i m e L o s e r that is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 10/16/2008
- missjulz I'm a Fan of missjulz 122 fans permalink
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Between the no taxes, skinhead do, Sammy Davis remark... I think Joe oughtta just build himself a compound and get over it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 10/16/2008

Joe is an unlicensed, non-union republican plant who benefits from the hard work and sacrifice of union plumbers. $250k in Toledo is a d-mn good living. I'm from Ohio, and the family trade is plumbing since lead and wood pipe days... Plumbing has become a lot more profitable since people lost the freedom to use wells and outhouses and are required to have plumbing by state and local goverments... sounds silly but it is the truth. Too bad the plumber is worried about the short term profits and not the big picture

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 10/16/2008
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