Reporters Confront Joe The Plumber Outside His House

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October 16, 2008 10:26 AM


It seems that Sarah Palin is going to have to cede some of the light of her celebrity to the new star of the race that the candidates can't stop talking about and who the pundits won't stop saying "won the debate," BECAUSE SHINY NEW THING. We speak, of course, of Joe Wurzelbacher, known by his alias, Joe The Plumber. He's bald and middle class and dreamy! And today, reporters crowded him outside his home and peppered him with questions as if he knew where Caylee Anthony was.

To his credit, Joe genuinely seems to wish that he wasn't such a flashpoint to the campaign, at one point saying that it bothered him that his name came up more often during the debate than Iraq. Plus, he likes freedom, and he's glad Iraqis have both freedom and a pair of pants. That said, ol' Joe is likely to have some vastly diminishing returns as a stand-in for the entire middle class, especially when you get to such crackpotty things like his being opposed to Social Security, his being sorry to find out at age 18 that he was actually born a "Yankee," and his inability to remember the circumstances that led to him registering as a member of the Natural Law Party (though the Toledo Blade says Joe is a registered Republican). At one point, Joe looked at the crowd and asked, hopefully, "This isn't national, is it?" Yeah, we sympathize.

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By the way, Ezra Klein over at the American Prospect has stepped forward to become the first member of the media to actually level with Joe The Plumber, and what Obama's tax plan means to his business plans:

According to the New York Times, Mr. Wurzelbacher says that he is planning to buy a plumbing business that has profits of between $250,000 and $280,000 a year.


While this income would put Mr. Wurzelbacher above the threshold where he could expect to pay higher taxes under Senator Obama's tax plan, the increase in his tax bill would be relatively modest. Under Senator Obama's plan, the tax on income above $250,000 would increase by 3 percentage points from 33 percent to 36 percent. This means that Mr. Wurzelbacher could expect to see his tax bill rise by between $0-$900, assuming that this plumbing business would be his entire taxable income. If he has additional taxable income, then he would see a larger increase in his taxes.

It would have been useful for reporters to explain the extent to which Joe the Plumber would see his taxes increase under Senator Obama's tax proposal. It is unlikely that this tax increase will seriously impair his plans for his business as Senator McCain implied.

It seems that Sarah Palin is going to have to cede some of the light of her celebrity to the new star of the race that the candidates can't stop talking about and who the pundits won't stop saying "wo...
It seems that Sarah Palin is going to have to cede some of the light of her celebrity to the new star of the race that the candidates can't stop talking about and who the pundits won't stop saying "wo...
 
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ComtenporarryMom,,,,Michele Bachmann Channels Sarah Palin.
Those two are delusional,you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 10/19/2008

I agree Michele Bachmann is delusional. See I told you sometimes we agree and sometimes we don't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 10/20/2008
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I agreed,I,we wish all Republicans behave, think like you,
my task is to convert you for he benefits the America and Americans,
voting outside the Party line,all my respect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 10/21/2008
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McCain believe that getting a few words of Obama speeches he can win the election.
McCain got plans to fix the economy,health care many plans,know how to fix,to win?
We never hear the specific of those plans,is a SECRET,he's reserving the right to use
those plans if he get elected,in the meantime ,he continue to RANT,SCREAM to his base.
Joe The Mole,Sopa star,washed secretaries of states wont get you the PRESIDENCY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 10/19/2008

You miss the bigger story - Obama screwed up.

He made the golden statement the other side has waited for - spreading the wealth around - which repubs interpret - you will take from me to give to others regardless of how hard I worked for it.

The other story missed here is that the word RATS was once used to slam lawyers, now it is used for the profession of reporters and so called journalists.

Wake up, even if this joe doesn't cut the mustard, the fact remains that there are small businesses who do well and while they should pay a fair share of taxes, at this time in our history - spreading the wealth around is not what your mom and pop businesses want to hear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 10/19/2008
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You are missing the all argument,spread the wealth,meaning,
the Billions of Dollar expend in Irak,corporate welfare,Bail Out,
that money is good use in America for Americans,that's all.
After all this years you are concerning,now?
Ask Sarah equal pay?
Ask Sarah why *males*should decide for a woman right to choose?
Ask Sarah how many wars across from her house,Russia?
Ask Sarah why she hate women so much?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 10/19/2008

Relax, completely aware of what he meant to say about spreading the wealth but that wont be how its taken.

Mccains camp has more women hired and have equal pay than obamas camp.

You really need to calm down and read more info than just huffington.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 10/19/2008
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Wow, $900 bucks? Now, that's really crippling to a business netting 250, 000. That's real "punishment" of the American Dream. How can he ever grow and create more jobs without that extra $900? It's outrageous!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 10/19/2008
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Joe the Unlicensed Cheat and GOP Shill shoved himself into the national limelight. Turns out it doesn't look too good on him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 10/19/2008
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He wanted to "corner" Obama, but he ended up cornering himself in lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 AM on 10/19/2008
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This reminds me of that other plant that was put in a presidential press conference and turned out to be a former male prostitute for a gay website.

The reason the Republicans are flailing is because it is harder to hide their dissembling in the 21st century Internet era of communication. It is not quite so easy for them to hide under a rock anymore. As communications have become more sophisticated, so have most of the American people. Sure their tactics will work for the uninformed and undereducated, but too bad for them, it takes more that that to win an election.

I know what Palin is sayin' right now:
SAY IT AINT SO JOE!!

By the way, Clinton warmed up leftovers are not going to win you guys the election.

You CORRUPTLICANS have beguiled the American people for too long now. Thank goodness for Karma.

A good tree will not bear bad fruit, nor will a bad tree bear good.

We won't be fooled again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 AM on 10/19/2008

CNN is reporting that McCain wants Joe the unlicensed plumber who doesn't pay his taxes to join him on the campaign trail.

McCain-Palin: One pathetic stunt after another.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 10/18/2008

Hey Mr. Obama, I am an undecided voter and I have a question. You see I am a Doctor and I am considering buying the hospital down the street from me and am wondering why you want to destroy my dreams with your socialist Tax Plan? No, I am not sure how I would buy the hospital, or if it is for sale. And well, I"m not actually a LICENCED doctor, but I do practice every chance I get. No, I don"t understand the difference between net and gross income because I don"t pay taxes anyway. But tell me Mr Obama, how are you going to tap dance around the fact that you and your terrorist friends want to wreck this undecided voter"s dreams?
Joe (not my real name) the Doctor

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 AM on 10/18/2008
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Well, if you authored this nugget, kudos. Quite, quite funny. And if you've simply posted it here, well - high marks for a discriminating eye and thanks much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 10/18/2008

thanks -

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 10/18/2008

You completely miss the point! Or, you choose to ignore it! Why... out of self interest? Or, do you just rewrite what's already written. We use to call this "turning traffic," using someone else's words. You might call it plagarism. It's certainly absent the point here; it was Barack's comment that "you'll be better off when we share the wealth" to Joe the Plumber. Incidently, Joe could very well go down in history as an American hero. Why? Because Barack made the mistake the opposition was looking for. He's shown his hand as a Marxist. Remember the words of this failed ideology; " to each according to his needs." And, who determines the needs? The government. It's the taxing authority.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 10/17/2008

"Obama is a Marxist." Ha! He's one of the most milquetoast, neolilberal, corporatist Senators. Nice try. You and Joe the Plumber aren't going to help McCain win. Have a box of tissues ready Nov. 4.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 PM on 10/17/2008

That so-called "quote" has never been verified as a quote. It's just rhetoric from a non-plumber with a plunger to grind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 10/18/2008

"He's bald, middle-class and dreamy."

Huh? Boy your opinion of dreamy are really off! Get to an eye doctor immediately!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 10/17/2008

Nah, I think Jason is just still buzzing from Wednesday's debate "Drink Every Time McCain Blinks", drinking game.

Consuming that much alcohol in one sitting has been known to distort things...making hunks out of hacks and vp candidates out of lipstick wearing pitbulls and could take awhile to recover from.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 10/17/2008
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Drink Every Time McCain Blinks?

that would be brutal...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 10/18/2008
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I read that three times figuring I was missing Jason's irony. I think Jason was being facetious. At least I am hoping he is. Can you imagine JTP cast as anything even remotely sexy and "dreamy" to the American viewer?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 10/18/2008
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So the national media and the candidates are all over this one under-inforned guy who is apparently a liar, all because he asked Obama an misinformed sound bite of a question??

Hey media! Get me close to John McCain and I'll be representative of the millions of Veterans who want to know why he consistently votes against issues that would improve our health and educational well being! I'd specifically ask him why he thought the new GI Bill was "too generous" and why he says that he would "take care of us".

Note: I am also middle class, bald, and dreamy. And I wear way cooler glasses than Sarah Palin does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 10/17/2008

Who was the last poor person you worked for??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 10/18/2008
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my current boss- he used to do quite well, but he's taking it in the shorts just like the rest of the country- thanks to the chronic ineptness and naked greed of of the Mcbush/Cheney administration...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 10/18/2008
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They had a very in-depth report on this on NPR last week, interviewing people from three income levels and a small business. It was very clear. This tax plan is a good one. In doing research on the Great Depression, one thing that struck me. The rich were being taxed less and less in the years leading up to the GD and income on the lower rungs suffered badly, even though productivity was high, and then jobs started to disappear. When the rich are taxed at higher levels the middle class and lower thrives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 10/17/2008
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Exactly. That is why it is reckless and irresponsible on the part of the American press to jump all over this obvious phony "average small business person" ruse of McCain's. It should have been obvious what was up when McCain mentioned him ad nauseum. So much so that the audience, and Obama could not help but laugh at him. The focus groups were said to even be laughing at McCain.



They should have done their homework and presented HONEST TO GOODNESS small business person's views, not this desperate Hail Mary Joe The Plumber ruse whuch was another obvious McCain ruse and evident to all.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 AM on 10/17/2008
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I think Joe was a bit more convincing when he played Detective Vic Mackey on The Shield

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 10/17/2008

That' what I was thinking. He'd be making lot more playing that character than the 1/4 mil and could CERTAINLY AFFORD THE ADDITIONAL TAXES.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 10/17/2008
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