Supreme Court's Ohio Decision Rejects GOP Voting Dispute

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October 17, 2008 02:47 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court sided Friday with Ohio's top elections official in a dispute with the state Republican Party over voter registrations.

The justices overruled a federal appeals court that had ordered Ohio's top elections official to do more to help counties verify voter eligibility.

Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner, a Democrat, faced a deadline of Friday to set up a system to provide local officials with names of newly registered voters whose driver's license numbers or Social Security numbers on voter registration forms don't match records in other government databases.

Ohio Republicans contended the information for counties would help prevent fraud. Brunner said the GOP is trying to disenfranchise voters.

In a brief unsigned opinion, the justices said they were not commenting on whether Ohio is complying with a provision of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility.

Instead, they said they were granting Brunner's request because it appears that the law does not allow private entities, like the Ohio GOP, to file suit to enforce the provision of the law at issue.

"They didn't deal with the merits of the case," said Ohio GOP Chairman Bob Bennett. "What they dealt with was a technicality on whether we had standing or not to bring the action."

About 200,000 of 666,000 voters who have registered in Ohio since Jan. 1 have records that don't match. Brunner has said the discrepancies most likely stem from innocent clerical errors rather than fraud but has set up a verification plan.

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Bennett said Brunner could have set up a system months ago to check the discrepancies and that her actions have left the potential for voter fraud.

"If we have a close election in Ohio and there's any doubts, the failures will be laid right at her doorstep," Bennett said.

Brunner said the court's decision would help ease confusion in the run-up to Election Day.

She said the act was clear that the mismatch lists were to be used to maintain the voter database, not to determine voter eligibility.

"We are very pleased that the court recognized that this was an illegal challenge on the part of the Republicans," she said.

She said the office would have found a way to comply, but there were risks that qualified voters would have been disqualified.

"I think it's an unfair tactic to subject voters to this kind of uncertainty and anxiety this close to such an important election," she said.

In court filings, the GOP has not produced any specific evidence of voting fraud, only unsubstantiated reports that voters from other states had cast fraudulent ballots during the early voting period.

McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said lower court rulings have clearly said regulations issued under the act require the secretary of state to match against the list, find where there's been fraud and inconsistencies and report them to counties.

"Why in the world would that not happen? We have the technology, the budget, the means and the manpower to make that happen," Davis told reporters on a conference call.

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court sided Friday with Ohio's top elections official in a dispute with the state Republican Party over voter registrations. The justices overruled a federal appeals co...
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court sided Friday with Ohio's top elections official in a dispute with the state Republican Party over voter registrations. The justices overruled a federal appeals co...
 
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How come kerry and Gore didn't have the balls to do this in 2000 and 2004 ?

I can see getting caught off guard on 2000, but the Dems should have been ready for the fraud and other

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 10/18/2008
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How come kerry and Gore didn't have the balls to do this in 2000 and 2004 ?

I can see getting caught off guard on 2000, but the Dems should have been ready for the fraud and other subversive tactics in '04 !

Thankfully Obama has his act together and is pushing back as hard as the Neo-Con rats ! Talk softly and carry a big stick !

If this kind of planning and organization is any indication of things to come, then I'd say we're going to have one helluva good administration come January :)

Let's hope they keep some of their fine people free to go after Bush, Cheney, Rove, Gonzales, Rumsfeld, Harris, Blackwell and the others traitors. They all need to spend some quality time in jail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 10/18/2008

Wednesday, October 15, 2008
Obama Dominating Among Early Voters in Five Swing States

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/obama-dominating-among-early-voters-in.html

VOTE EARLY PEOPLE!!!

DO NOT VOTE ON PROVISIONAL BALLOTS!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 PM on 10/18/2008

Why is it that the Repubs are the ONLY ones who try to disenfranchise voters. The GOP tries to suppress voter registration and turnout every time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 10/18/2008
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Maybe she'll get to be a Senator like Kathleen Harris of Florida. That is the reward for helping steal an election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 10/18/2008

And the Ohio Republicans are at it again:

http://www.daytondailynews.com/o/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/ohiopolitics/entries/2008/10/18/mismatch_legal_battle_moves_to.html

This time all voters registered after Jan 1 2008 who voted absentee will not have their ballots counted until they are verified for mismatches.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 10/18/2008

Thank you, Jennifer Brunner, for standing up to the Republican Party in its efforts to cripple the voting process in Ohio. David Iglasias, former US attorney for New Mexico and author of "In Justice," was actually fired in 2006, along with 6 other Republcian DA's, for their efforts at upholding the law and not bowing to their party's voter intimidation tactics. Remember Attorney General Alberto Gonzales?He resigned during this Bush Administration scandal. According to Iglasias' book, he is very familiar with some of the same bogus Republican lawsuits we are experiencing in Ohio as we speak. I'm curious as to whether every state is dealing with this, or just the states that are seen as playing a "critical" role in the 2008 election. All I can say is keep up the good work, Ms. Brunner...We all just want to vote in peace-one person, one vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 AM on 10/18/2008
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Is there any part of government or American culture that Bush hasn't politicized?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 10/18/2008

in the new york state county where i live, we have to sign in a book that has a copy of our signature, our address where we actually live, and show our voter's registration card. i realize that new york state can be one over-regulated entity but this seems to work rather well. i believe that if other states adopted what new york does then this would be a moot point. we wouldn't have either side claiming voter fraud if there were these kinds of checks and balances. btw, i'm an independent who's had enough of the negative ads and negative attacks from an increasingly (as it seems to me) bitter older man. what happened to your integrity, senator mccain?

obama/biden '08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:05 AM on 10/18/2008

We have to sign a ledger book where I vote in NJ also. But, we don't have to show a voter registration card. I've been voting the same place for thirty years. i give them my name and they find me in the book and I sign next to my signature in the book.

Perhaps we should have fair standardized voting from state to state. How hard can that be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 10/18/2008

George Bush is the worse thing to ever happen to America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 10/18/2008
- Diane Tucker - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Diane Tucker permalink

I just returned from Youngstown, Ohio, where the presidential contest is a dead heat and keeps "floppin' like a fish" according to a local radio DJ. Here's the link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/diane-tucker/in-ohio-gop-courting-unde_b_135275.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 AM on 10/18/2008

So which was worse, when Bush stole the election in 2004 or when JFK stole it in 1960?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 10/17/2008

I'm 42 so I wasn't born then. Am I supposed to be "angry" about it?

If not, I'm also Black and I have many more things to be angry about from the sixties.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 10/18/2008
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He didn't. But had he, in fact, stolen it, I'd say JFK, since he didn't ruin our country.

Any other questions on your mind?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 AM on 10/18/2008

Old chestnut and a lie too boot

Kennedy would have won Illinois if there had been no fraud at all. Dems stole a district that might have gone Rep. Reps stole a district that was solidly Dem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 10/18/2008

JFK didn't steal, that was a lie put out by the sore loser Nixon gang.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 10/18/2008
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Which is even worse the fact that Nixon was a crook who got away with it or George W. Bush because he will get away with it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 10/18/2008

I thought I lived in a democratic country, yet how can these tactics be allowed?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 10/17/2008

Where have you been, oh, the last eight years? Every election now is like some freakin' banana republic. This is what the Republicans did for America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 10/18/2008

Jennifer Brunner is one of the most partisan politicans in the State of Ohio.

We in Ohio are not surprised that she would spend her time fighting a court order to do her job and in doing so, letting enough time to pass making it impossible to do her job before the election.

All the residents in Ohio want is for our election to be fair and without fraud and now we are not so sure. There will always be a question as to whether voter fraud will dominate Nov 4th.

We can only hope that the individual county boards of election will actually do their job and prevent groups like ACORN from tampering with our election.

We will not forget Jennifer Brunner's actions or lack thereof in 2 years with she is up for re-election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 10/17/2008

You do realize that in the 2004 election, the Republican party and Ken Blackwell did their best to supress the African American turnout, leaving thousands unable to vote. This is more dangerous than voter registration fraud, which is just people making up names so they can get paid. All of these fake names cannot actually vote. How do you prove you are Mickey Mouse, or Blah Blah Simpleton or any other made up name. This is not the same as voter fraud, something even the Department of Justice admits happens so rarely that their aren't even enough examples to to come up with statistics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 10/17/2008

So if ACORN manages to pull off voter fraud and the Republicans suppress voters then isn't it a wash?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 10/17/2008

Either someone is elegible to vote or they are not. It doesn't matter what party they belong to or what color their skin happens to be.

To say that the Republicans and Ken Blackwell, were "doing their best to supress the African American turnout" is a vague and broad charge that has no basis in fact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 10/17/2008
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Oh not just 2004 but also 2000! Now that the shoe is on the other foot they want to yell foul... what comes around goes around!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 10/18/2008

Blah Blah Blah Blah!!!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 10/18/2008
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Do her job? Her job is to presume intent to commit fraud and use the BMV and SSN database mismatches as a basis for either forcing people to vote provisionally (which amounts to not voting at all) or disqualifying them altogether? It most certainly is NOT.

Would you want your right to vote hindered or destroyed by a database field discrepancy? I'm guessing not. But if it happens to someone else, presumably that's okay? Fabulous.

Brunner has stated that there is no legal basis for denying a person's right to vote based on database mismatches. Does that not seem reasonable to you? Please explain how a mismatched field--SSN, driver (sic) license number, DOB, etc.--forms the basis for suspicion of fraud.

She's doing her job. But shill away, please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 AM on 10/18/2008

A fake ID to go along with a fake registration is voter fraud, period. If you don't think groups like ACORN are trying it, then you are pretty niave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 10/18/2008
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You DO NOT speak for Ohio, so shut your cakehole ! You probably didn't object when the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the Republicans in 2000.... An now the COURTS ruled in favor of Brunner. The people of Ohio rejected Blackwell when he ran for governor. Enough people knew about his involvement in the voter fraud of '04 when he was SecState.

ACORN is not "tampering with elections". ALL REGISTRATIONS MUST BE SUBMITTED BY LAW !!! And who can say the fake forms were not submitted by Nep-Con operatives ?!

ACORN sorted the forms into as required. "Confirmed", "Unconfirmed" and "Suspicious". A well planned media frenzy was orchestrated by the Neo-Cons to "reveal" the suspicious forms. ACORN did NOT try to hide them. This "non-story" covered by the media was nothing more than a smoke screen to give the Neo-Con's own voter fraud efforts some cover. They also wanted to discredit ACORN so that all their work would be suspicious, and hopefully diminish voter turnout.

Sadly, it's gotten to the point where the Dems must almost resort to fraud in order to cancel out the Repub's criminal activity. Traitors like Rove have made it almost impossible to win otherwise ! For the Republicans, a simple 50% majority is good enough, but the Dems need 60% to "earn" their election.

I say F@ck you Bush, Cheney, Rove, McCain and Palin ! No more of your lies, corruption and treason. We want our country back !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 PM on 10/18/2008

You might want to check out the Elections Canada model. No system is perfect but this is the one that ALL emerging democracies look to. There must be something positive and constructive here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 10/17/2008

They require an ID in Canada and most Democrats are against that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 10/17/2008
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Actually, it's most libertarians that are against it, including many republicans I know. And the fear is well founded when you look at horribly mismanaged our "terror watch lists" have been.

In Holland all citizens can vote, and get a card in the mail in the weeks leading up to the election that they bring with them to the polling place. It's easy, reliable and yields much higher voter participation rates. It's not an "opt-in" system in the US that has hurdles put in place precisely to limit the votes of whichever sub-group is deemed to be politically "disloyal" to the (usually) incumbent politician most dialed into the system.

Europe (and I agree, Canada!) can teach the US a lot about how to behave as a real democracy where the government works for the good of the people and doesn't feel compelled to say "so?" (Dick Cheney) when told that the public doesn't agree with them.

Voters should never fear the government, government should always fear the voters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 AM on 10/18/2008


NO, that's wrong. "Most Democrats," if we can presume to use the term, are against FEES charged for said IDs. If they're free, all agree, there's no problem. Fees constitute a "poll tax" which is justifiably illegal.

At least get your story straight!
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 AM on 10/18/2008
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We just had a federal election Oct 14th - here are the voter options
registered voters get a notice from elections Canada about 3-4 weeks before with name address -and address of polling station. You can vote in advance polls or on election day.
You show up at the poll and: A) present photo ID like drivers licence, medicare card - or -
B) present 2 utility bills with your name & address - or similar bills linking you to the address - or -
C) you have vetted voter - friend relative, neighbor with ID vouch for you - or -
D) you swear an oath that you are the person and live at your declared address
We don't seem to have a problem.
Most opposed to photo IDs are opposed to having a cost and added discouragement for the poor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:32 PM on 10/18/2008

Elections Canada is a federal agency that runs their elections, instead of delegating it to all these separate counties.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 10/18/2008
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We are saying all this time,this is not 2000,2004,,,,,Sauce!
Republicans, do not know what's hitting them so far and hard ,,,Obama!
Desperation abound,depression is attacking Palin

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 10/17/2008

The irony of this is that it was an opinion written by Justice Scalia that provided the precedent for this decision. So the GOP has it's case thrown out because of an opinion written by one of the court's most conservative justices and the Democrats by winning this case and in some instances rejoicing in it have validated one of the legal opinion of a Supreme Court Justice that they despise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 10/17/2008
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Precedent and settled! Karma!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 10/17/2008
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