Some Conservatives See Race In Powell's Obama Endorsement

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First Posted: 10-19-08 03:00 PM   |   Updated: 11-19-08 05:12 AM

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Colin Powell's decision to endorse Barack Obama has sparked a mini-debate of sorts over both the significance of the endorsement itself and the role that race has and will play during this campaign.

In the immediate aftermath of his appearance on Meet The Press, several prominent GOP officials - ranging from the established to the extreme - defined the announcement more by skin color than ideology.

The most crass interpretation came from talk radio host Rush Limbaugh, who wrote the Politico's Jonathan Martin the following:

"Secretary Powell says his endorsement is not about race... OK, fine. I am now researching his past endorsements to see if I can find all the inexperienced, very liberal, white candidates he has endorsed. I'll let you know what I come up with."

Later in the day, Pat Buchanan echoed Limbaugh's refrain. "Alright, we gotta ask a question," he declared on MSNBC, "look would Colin Powell be endorsing Obama if he were a white liberal Democrat..."

The esteemed conservative columnist George Will did not go so far, but he did seek to explain the impact of Powell's decision as part of a larger, more psychological sway that Obama held over other African Americans.

There will be "some impact," Will declared. "And I think this adds to my calculation -- this is very hard to measure -- but it seems to me if we had the tools to measure we'd find that Barack Obama gets two votes because he's black for every one he loses because he's black because so much of this country is so eager, a, to feel good about itself by doing this, but more than that to put paid to the whole Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson game of political rhetoric."

There were, down the conservative line, other voices who gave credence to the race-over-politics theory. A prominent Republican attorney in Maine, Dan Billings, accused Powell of racism, stating: "If Obama was a white man, Powell would not have made the endorsement."

Certainly, it is hard to dismiss this element when the discussion surrounds a man who seemed en route -- if he simply wanted -- to becoming the first African American president and the individual who is poised to fulfill that possibility. But the argument (for all its condescending simplicity) seems to be missing the larger point. For starters, Powell has, in the past, endorsed a "white man" who was described as inexperienced -- George W. Bush in 2000. Mainly, however, the endorsement tells us more about how Obama's candidacy will be perceived among white voters than it says about the Illinois Democrat's African American support structure. As the Atlantic's Marc Ambinder explains:

"Powell is a culturally individuated African American hero; to the extent that there remain white voters who have inchoate worries about Obama's race, it helps to have him associated with a man whose race they've already gotten over. I do think this cohort of people is tiny."

UPDATE: Notre Dame Professor Darren Davis, who specializes in the intersection of race and politics, writes in with his take on the Powell endorsement and the conservative reaction.

"There is nothing racially obvious about Colin Powell's endorsement of Barack Obama. I have read Colin Powell's comments and he did not at anytime allude to race being a factor in his endorsement. I think what we are seeing is a sense of racial stereotyping of two ostensibly racially transcendent political figures. There has always been a stereotype that all black people will stick together. It seems that this is somewhat in play here, given that they only factor connecting Colin Powell and Barack Obama is race."
Colin Powell's decision to endorse Barack Obama has sparked a mini-debate of sorts over both the significance of the endorsement itself and the role that race has and will play during this campaign. ...
Colin Powell's decision to endorse Barack Obama has sparked a mini-debate of sorts over both the significance of the endorsement itself and the role that race has and will play during this campaign. ...
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These dishonest polls and the MSM like NY Times, CNN, CNBC, ABC et al have sold out big time! The Big O's massive campaign funds do work wonders!

If these polls and MSM reports have any element of truth, why are the Dems so worried ...so worried sick that they should so savagely use their attack dog MSM to rip into Palin and even Joe the Plumber from the get go! Also, if the polls have any grain of truth, the McCain Palin campaigns should be deserted and not jam packed like they are! Scumbags and humbugs!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 10/24/2008
- parunach I'm a Fan of parunach 6 fans permalink

You are right to a point. The polls could be wrong, however you need to look at other issues. The democrats have not won for 8 years now, so they are naturally cautious, they do not say that they cannot win. However, they have not thrown the towel in like the GOP. The GOP is giving up on the McCain ticket. You can see a lot of crowds, that does not mean that they are going to win. I notice that you are complaining about NBC, why not complain about FOX, they are doing the same thing. "Fair and Balanced", bah!! All media is biased, some more than another.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 10/26/2008
- Pulemerci I'm a Fan of Pulemerci 9 fans permalink

One point that some people are missing here is what Obama's own embrace of Powell means in terms of his policy. Obama used his own opposition to the war - the war that Colin Powell helped start - as a major difference between him and Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary and in the general election. Obama and the Left who were so adamantly against the Iraq War are now dismissing Powell's justification at the UN. Didn't Obama hammer Hillary Clinton in the primaries about her voting to authorize the war? But he doesn't hammer the messenger who laid out the reasons for the war? Is that change? I guess it is. At least his views seem to change depending on who can help him. Don't vote for the Senator who voted for the war but accept and embrace the endorsement of the Secretary of State who laid out the evidence for supporting the invasion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 10/24/2008
- zabbadu I'm a Fan of zabbadu 2 fans permalink

WTF!? Get over it. Until there are zero complaints all-around about voting along one's own race, then this will be the norm.

As of current time, there are such complaints about white voting along the white ticket. I say, if this is happening currently, then why is it such a big deal that a black man is voting for a black man?

I am white, voting for Obama. I find it deplorable that this issue still exists. That said, I recognize that this country has a long way to go before racial equality exists. We need dialog, real honest reassurance that racism will not happen, and consequences when it does. I, for one, am ready to move on from our racist past and look forward to racial harmony. C'mon! It's a blast being amongst different folks! I love it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 10/22/2008
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How can that be defined as racism? A black endorsing a black=racism? I don't get it!!! Powell's endorsement is just one politician saying that he'll vote for another, It becomes racist when the sole reason that you're voting for him is his skin color.

I'm not voting for Obama because he's half-black, or because I'm black.

I'm voting for Obama because the the Republican canidate is a flip-flopper who will follow the Bush Doctrine, only in a different wrapper, and his VP choice is, without question, the dumbest politician I've ever seen. Palin makes Quayle look like a theoretical physicist!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 10/21/2008
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Palin makes Quayle look like a theoretical physicist!


So true, So true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 10/24/2008
- dmsdzinr I'm a Fan of dmsdzinr 19 fans permalink

SLOBBAH THE PUTZ! That what Limburger is! And wonders of wonders, NOW Rush knows people's motives better than the people the motive comes from. RL is a GAPING B U N G H O L E!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 PM on 10/21/2008
- lovable I'm a Fan of lovable 9 fans permalink

YESTERDAY chris mathews said rush is a friend and he like him and refused to admitt that rush was a rascist . i guess his association with rush make s him a ---
any one who is a friend of rush i consider a rascist . i think he is worst than david duke!!!!! because he commands cult members and influence them every day . he says every day dont listen to the drive by media only to me and thats what they do . thats why they get only one side of the story .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 10/21/2008
- mivogo I'm a Fan of mivogo 14 fans permalink

You are 100% wrong. Despite the fact that Matthews considers him a friend, he called Limbaugh out strongly on his snotty, disrespectful remark about Powell endorsing Obama strictly because of his race. Matthews said he could scream just like Limbaugh did, throw out his arms and say Limbaugh endorses McCain just because he's white, but it wouldn't make it right. He said Limbaugh's remark is equivilant to saying one knows everything Matthews thinks because he's a Catholic, or the same thing about a Jewish or black person.
Matthews is an independent thinker, who takes one issue at a time, not a knee jerk left or right wing true believer. That you consider him a "racist" says more about you than it does about Matthews.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 PM on 10/24/2008

What a double standard some so called Americans have when it come to race in this country. I've never heard of Sen. Obama dismissing the white half of his race. Why hasn't white America embraced that? Why hasn't his white heritage been an issue for black Americans? I think we all know the answer. We (blacks) don't "kick people under the bus" when they have mixed blood--good thing his grand- parents didn't . Calling Sen. Obama the "black" candidate to me is unfair to his white heritage--oh yeah, I forgot, America is color blind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 10/21/2008
- MikePS65 I'm a Fan of MikePS65 11 fans permalink
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I see Obama's skin color as a bonus. He's right on the issues, intelligent, eloquent, charismatic and forward-thinking. That's why THIS 43-year-old white man (who voted for Reagan and Bush 41, but couldn't bring himself to vote for 41's stupid son) is voting for Obama.

The fact that his skin color might help to bridge an ages-old racial divide is icing on the cake. But honestly, I'd vote for the guy if he was green with purple spots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 10/21/2008
- CFAmick I'm a Fan of CFAmick 4 fans permalink

Follow this closely:

Voting for Obama because he's black is a more intelligent decision than voting for McCain because a multi-millionaire media personality who cares only about cutting the tax rate on capital gains spreads rumors about Obama's religion or nationality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 10/20/2008

It seems to me Obama is a very intelligent man, when they ask him questions, he answers.
#1 we need to....., #2 then I want to take a look at...., #3 and then we can.....
Whereas McCain when asked a question, seems to just attack Obama.....­.
"He wants to raise your taxes...., he pals around with terrorists­...."
If there was any real dirt on Obama, you can rest assured the Clinton Machine would have dug it up and used it..... They are quite good at what they do....
And the question remains, who would you rather have drive your car?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 10/20/2008
- enochsmoky I'm a Fan of enochsmoky 11 fans permalink

Is Barack Obama black? I did not notice. Here I thought that he was half white. Thanks for letting me know, that is sure going to change my vote. Of course Colin Powell is endorsing Obama, he wants to be on what he and many others considers to be the "right side of history." This election is all about the herd mentality, feeling good about open mindedness, supposed superior intellingence and not sticking out at the neighborhood barbeque for having a McCain sign in your yard. Imagine the shock some voters will have with the first proposals for comparable worth, living wage laws, reparations for the descendants of slaves and unfettered union activism. I can hardly wait.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 10/20/2008
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Imagine a President that can express himself clearly in English. Imagine a President who can speak to us as adults. Imagine a President who is not an international laughingstock. Imagine a President who can inspire. Imagine a President who actually believes in bringing people together. Imagine a President who sees things in shades of grey. Imagine a President who does not lie to the American people. Imagine a President who does not march to the drum of the Neo-Con agenda.

No child younger than the age of about 13 years has recall anything like this.

Obama is not perfect, and he has some convincing to do, at least with me, before I truly believe that he has the intestinal fortitude steer the country out of the paws of the corporate elites. But there is absolutely no question that McCain and his catastrophically inept running mate represent more failed Neo-Con fundamentalist dogma.

Never mind what Powell said. The mere fact that he made a public endorsement is a damning condemnation of Neo-Con Republicanism, and all the unintelligent, uncurious, narrow minded, fundamentalist, bigoted, arrogant, racist, hypocrites who still believe this cancer represents anything but certain doom for America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 AM on 10/21/2008

Rush Limbaugh is an idiot for saying Powell endorsed Obama because of race.

Are Susan Eisenhower and Chris Buckley black??

http://djbwillthinkforfood.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 10/20/2008
- lmvd3 I'm a Fan of lmvd3 18 fans permalink

And Limbaugh based his comments on racISM.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 10/20/2008
- hughtensil I'm a Fan of hughtensil 2 fans permalink

This kind of argument must swing both ways. If we allow people like Will, Buchanan and Limbaugh to make assertions about motive, then we must double it back on them. They support McCain because he's white. Simple as that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 10/20/2008
- MarkKienan I'm a Fan of MarkKienan 4 fans permalink

Was Lieberman's endorsement of McCain based on race?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 10/20/2008

No. Intelligence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 10/20/2008

the LACK of intelligen­ce,Sparky!­!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 10/20/2008
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Or lack of.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 PM on 10/20/2008

Or lack thereof.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 10/20/2008
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