Joe The Plumber Tanks In Swing States

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First Posted: 10-20-08 01:23 PM   |   Updated: 11-20-08 05:12 AM

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Campaign aides to John McCain told the New York Times last week that "Joe the Plumber" would form the bedrock of their strategy for the rest of the race:

Mr. McCain's advisers said that in his speeches, television advertisements and mailings, he would seize on a remark Mr. Obama made in an encounter with an Ohio voter, Joe Wurzelbacher, who had pressed him to explain his support for a tax increase for upper-income filers. Mr. Obama responded by saying he wanted to "spread the wealth." Mr. McCain repeatedly invoked that encounter with the man, whom he called "Joe the Plumber," during the debate on Wednesday.

Has it worked? Not exactly. A Suffolk University poll of Ohio and Missouri finds that name recognition of "Joe the Plumber" is very high in both states -- but only a handful of voters said it made them more likely to vote for the Republican candidate. In Ohio, 68% of respondents had heard the Joe story. Six percent said it made them more likely to vote for McCain; four percent said it made them more likely to vote for Obama. In Missouri a whopping 80% knew of Joe. Eight percent were more likely to vote McCain as a result; 3 percent more likely to vote Obama. In both states, vast majorities said the plumber's story did not affect their decision at all. Meanwhile, Obama is leading McCain in Ohio and is nearly tied with him in Missouri. More from the poll:

With just over two weeks left before the presidential election, voters in the key state of Ohio are giving the Democratic ticket of Barack Obama and Joe Biden a 9-point lead (51 percent-42 percent) over the Republican ticket of John McCain and Sarah Palin, according to a poll released today by Suffolk University.


In Missouri, McCain led by 1 percent (45 percent to 44 percent) statewide. He also led the bellwether test of Platte County, Mo.

"If Ohio goes for Obama, it may be lights out for McCain," said David Paleologos, director of the Political Research Center at Suffolk University in Boston. "At least today, the probability of an Ohio win is supported by the high-single-digit lead in the statewide poll coupled with the Perry County bellwether, which showed Obama leading by 4 percent."

In 2008, Suffolk University bellwethers were 95 percent accurate in predicting straight-up winners in both Democratic and Republican primaries, and, when coupled with statewide Suffolk polls, were 100 percent accurate in predicting straight-up winners.

Campaign aides to John McCain told the New York Times last week that "Joe the Plumber" would form the bedrock of their strategy for the rest of the race: Mr. McCain's advisers said that in his speec...
Campaign aides to John McCain told the New York Times last week that "Joe the Plumber" would form the bedrock of their strategy for the rest of the race: Mr. McCain's advisers said that in his speec...
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John McCan't Keep His Stories Straight is looking more like a pandering politician than a marauding maverick - maybe it's that light of day thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 10/20/2008
- larazon I'm a Fan of larazon 19 fans permalink

This reminds me of The Flintonstones when the parrot sqwaks: Doctor is a plumber, doctor is a plumber. In this case the plumber is a fra-ud! The plumber is a fraud! sqwaaak.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 10/20/2008
- larazon I'm a Fan of larazon 19 fans permalink

corr: Flinstones

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 10/20/2008
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larazon: The Flintonstones

corr: Clintonstones

Don't thank me. I'm here to help.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 10/20/2008
- OtayPanky I'm a Fan of OtayPanky 79 fans permalink
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larazon: corr: Flinstones

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corr: Flintstones

Once again, don't thank me. I really AM here to help.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 10/20/2008
- gcallaghan I'm a Fan of gcallaghan 52 fans permalink
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14:57

14:58

14:59

15:00

DING!

Joe's done

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 10/20/2008
- ersf I'm a Fan of ersf 16 fans permalink

soon the McCain Turkey will be finished in the oven as well.
I like the 15 minutes timer - very clever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 10/20/2008
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LOL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 10/20/2008

Just keep on trying. Something has to work sooner or later. (Hopefully later).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 10/20/2008
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H,ell even a broken clock is right twice a day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 10/20/2008
- larazon I'm a Fan of larazon 19 fans permalink

Hey Joe, since you like to dish out the dirt like like the duo you shill for, why don't ya go unclog a toilet for a change?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 10/20/2008
- larazon I'm a Fan of larazon 19 fans permalink

Joe the Plumber is a gimmick just meant to distract, like Palin, her glasses and her lipstick. Is he really a plumber or a paid sto-oge meant to parrot the soci-alist line?

Are people really even taking seriously Lou Dobbs question of the day, as to whose endorsement is more important, the Plumber's or Powells. I can't even believe he had the gall to ask such a question. What a ze-ro. Who's intelligence is he trying to ins-ult? Answer: HIs own.

Howevever to the 44% who voted for the plumber...you definitely deserved the past 8 years!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 10/20/2008
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Lou Dobbs is angry because external issues have made it impossible for him to talk about Mexican immigrants for an hour each night.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 10/20/2008
- Rictracee I'm a Fan of Rictracee 130 fans permalink
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you can say that again.. immigration went completely out the window.. so Lou Dobbs is grasping at straws to feel relevent today.. F U Lou

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 10/20/2008
- fireW I'm a Fan of fireW 18 fans permalink
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What a surprise. Joe the Plumber turned out to be just as fraudulent as McCain. Both were conspicuously lacking in integrity and overly willing to lie through their teeth while the camera was on. Family values and personal responsibility?

What a sorry joke . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 10/20/2008
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You just described the Republican Party these days.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 10/20/2008

If the neo-cons were that upset over taxes...they would have nominated Huckabee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 10/20/2008
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I LOVE IT! JOE THE PLUMBER HAS NOT HELPED MC CAIN'S NUMBERS IN OHIO!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 10/20/2008
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With all due respect to David Paleologos, Ohio is not the center of the electoral universe, this time. McCain MUST win Colorado( Obama+5.5), Nevada(Obama+4), Missouri(Obama+2.7),Indiana(McCain+3.8), Ohio - yes - (Obama+2.8), Virginia( Obama+8!), North Carolina(Obama+2.3), and Florida(Obama+2). Obama must ONLY WIN ONE of these states( not including Nevada) to become our next Prez. It isnt JUST this most recent 'snapshot' that's so devastating for McCain. It's the trendlines(stupid)! McCain doesnt have any upward trendlines in those states , except florida . In florida his numbers crashed SO dramatically, that it's not surprising to see them rebound , ever so slightly. IT'S OVER. Poll #s derived from Real Clear Politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 10/20/2008
- Rictracee I'm a Fan of Rictracee 130 fans permalink
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the reason McCain is losing florida is because of RACIST TONE IN HIS CAMPAIGN.. there are too many jews, mexicans, and african americans in florida that definently are turned off by the non-inclusive republican party..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 10/20/2008
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I think that once people realized that Joe the Plumber failed to do his duty (like the rest of us working-class slobs) and pay his back taxes, he fell from favor. Also want to know why he's a single father: is he a widower, divorced, or as gay -- he's very bearish -- as he looks?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 10/20/2008
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I'd say bearish d!(khe@d

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 10/20/2008

I doubt Obama will win Ohio, and I wish everyone with an ounce of integrity would stop claiming this election is going to be decided in Ohio. There was already one election (2004) stolen in Ohio without even a Hrrumph from anyone, including Dem0crats, and it just can't be allowed to happen again. The first step is to stop pretending that Ohio is either a bellweather or a determinant state. It's pretty likely that Ohio will vote for the white man, and for the first time since 1960 a president will be elected without winning Ohio. That's how I see it. We will have to wait and see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 10/20/2008
- AMERIKA I'm a Fan of AMERIKA 15 fans permalink

Nope I disagree. check out http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/abd scroll down to the Scenario analysis to see why

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 10/20/2008
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Ohio is irrelevant this year. Obama needs to win all the Kerry states + IA + NM + CO or just Kerry states + IA+VA

Take your pick. (Not to mention MO or NV)

McCain can win The Banana Republic of Florida and Ohio and still lose. They can count their chads until December this year and it probably won't matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 10/20/2008
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Though he denies it, Mc would rather stick with Bushie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3R5ViFkEqY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 10/20/2008
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this vegetable was a PLANT!

The Ballad of Johnny McCain, 2008:

http://current.com/items/89423945_the_ballad_of_johnny_mccain_2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 10/20/2008

She's a true sidekick!

Obama/ Biden 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:35 PM on 10/20/2008
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