Bi-Polar Disorder: Is The Presidential Race Really Tightening?

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First Posted: 10-21-08 06:11 PM   |   Updated: 11-21-08 05:12 AM

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Occasional blips in the polls during the closing weeks of the campaign have produced intermittent bursts of confidence among backers of John McCain and spurts of panic among Obama loyalists.

Take a gold standard: the rolling average of the nine or so most recent national polls calculated daily by RealClearPolitics. Obama's lead dropped from 8.2 points on October 14th to 5.7 on Tuesday, October 21st. If things continued that way until November 4, Obama's edge would shrink to a statistically meaningless 0.7 percent, and a coin flip could predict the presidency.

For those obsessives who follow daily tracking numbers, the emotional roller coaster can reach breakneck speeds. Over a four day period last week, from Wednesday, October 15, to Saturday, October 18, Rasmussen showed a steady decline in Obama's lead, dropping from 5.5 percent to 5.0 percent to 3.9 percent all the way to 2.7 percent.

For those of you who want to spend the next two weeks experiencing the ups and downs of every percentage point shift, a good list of the tracking polls and links to each of them can be found at the 538.com web site. Despite day-to-day fluctuations, the weight of evidence suggests, however, that Obama's lead is solid and it will be very difficult, if not impossible, for McCain to avoid defeat.

On the afternoon of October 21, one of the nation's most credible public polling organizations, the Pew Research Center released a national survey showing Obama ahead by a prohibitive 14 points, 52-38.

"Barack Obama's lead over John McCain has steadily increased since mid-September, when the race was essentially even. Shortly after the first presidential debate on Sept. 26, Obama moved to a 49% to 42% lead; that margin inched up to 50% to 40% in a poll taken just after the second debate. Currently, Obama enjoys his widest margin yet over McCain among registered voters, at 52% to 38%. When the sample of voters is narrowed to those most likely to vote, Obama leads by 54% to 39%," writes the Center's director, Andy Kohut.

"Obama's gains notwithstanding, a widespread loss of confidence in McCain appears to be the most significant factor in the race at this point, " Kohut continues. "Many more voters express doubts about McCain's judgment than about Obama's: 41% see McCain as 'having poor judgment,' while just 29% say that this trait describes Obama. Fewer voters also view McCain as inspiring than did so in mid-September (37% now, 43% then). By contrast, 71% of voters continue to think of Obama as inspiring."

Later in the day, the Wall Street Journal and NBC News released a poll showing Obama with a 10 point, 52-42, lead.

With voters' increased confidence in his ability to serve as commander in chief, as well as a majority who now believe he would do a good job as president, Barack Obama has opened up his biggest advantage over John McCain in the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll. [...]
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Obama's current lead is also fueled by his strength among independent voters (topping McCain 49 to 37 percent), suburban voters (53 to 41), Catholics (50 to 44) and white women (49 to 45).

In early September, after the Republican National Convention, McCain was ahead with independents and Catholics, and narrowly trailed Obama among suburban voters.

Tom Mann of the Brookings Institution flatly declares that "McCain does not have a shot absent some cataclysmic event. National and battleground polls continue to show Obama in excellent shape." To back up his argument, Mann emailed the Huffington Post the following chart:

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Gary Jacobson, a political scientist at the University of California-San Diego, said, "McCain has a shot, but not, I think, without some exogenous shock (October or November surprise). Obama's resource and organizational advantages remain. I haven't notice much slippage yet in the key battleground states, although state level polls are even more erratic than national polls."

Gallup, which uses three different methods to measure the Obama-McCain contest, found as of 10/21 that Obama's lead was either growing or holding firm. In a model defining "likely voters" simply on the basis of their promised intentions, Obama holds a 10-point, 52-42, lead, up from four points, 50-46, on October 17. When likely voters are defined as those who say they are sure to vote and have a strong history of voting in the past, Obama leads 7-point, 51-44, a significant improvement on the 49-47 edge he had as recently as October 17. Obama's lead is largest, 11 points, 52-41, among all registered voters, and that margin has improved from 6 points, 49-43, on October 15.

For those Democrats still worried about the trends at RealClearPolitics (RCP), they can look forward to an upward tick for Obama as soon as Wednesday morning. Then, the site will add the 14-point Pew survey as well as one of the tracking polls now showing a 9 point Obama lead. Those two new polls will replace the two oldest surveys used by RealClearPolitics that had small Obama leads of 6 and 1 point, respectively.

The net effect will be that Obama's average on RCP will, in just a day, shoot up from a 5.7 point lead to an 8.1 point lead. Obama supporters will be able to put away, at least for now, their Rolaids, while McCainiacs will have to double their dosage of Wellbutrin, Paxil and Zoloft.

Occasional blips in the polls during the closing weeks of the campaign have produced intermittent bursts of confidence among backers of John McCain and spurts of panic among Obama loyalists. Take a g...
Occasional blips in the polls during the closing weeks of the campaign have produced intermittent bursts of confidence among backers of John McCain and spurts of panic among Obama loyalists. Take a g...
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 10/21/2008
- BillCarson I'm a Fan of BillCarson 5 fans permalink
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>For those Democrats still worried about the trends at RealClearPolitics

RCP has a right-wing bias to their polls. I prefer http://www.electoral-vote.com/icon.html

But a real poll junkie would get their daily fix by having all the polls on one page! ...
http://auxchumppolitics.blogspot.com/2008/09/2008-electoral-vote-websites.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 10/21/2008
- NKR I'm a Fan of NKR 18 fans permalink
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Perhaps I'm missing something, but it looks like the RCP average showed a 5.8 spread on 10/20, rather than on 10/21 (which you said had a 5.7 spread). On 10/21, it was 7.2 http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.htmll)

Not sure where you're getting the Rasmussen data either...the daily presidential tracking poll never reached 2.9, it has been at least +4 for Obama for nearly a month http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/general_election_match_up_historyy).

Not to say I disagree with the article...its looking very good for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 10/21/2008
- badscience I'm a Fan of badscience 3 fans permalink

The RCP average changes all day as the daily polls arrive, but they provide a single number in their charts for previous days. I don't know about the Rasmussen methodology.

Nonetheless, all pointed in the right direction!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 10/21/2008
- badscience I'm a Fan of badscience 3 fans permalink

For instance, the RCP just updated again to a +7.2 average for Obama as a result of the addition of the NBC News/WSJ poll:

10/17 - 10/20 1159 RV 2.9 52 42 Obama +10

Niiiice!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 10/21/2008
- BigMike75 I'm a Fan of BigMike75 12 fans permalink

People need not to be alarmed by the volatility of the polls, in reality this thing is not the least bit close. TV talking heads will tell you that to maintain ratings, and McCain campaign flacks will say the same to keep whatever shred of morale they have over their at McCain Inc, hanging by a string. You need to pay attention to a few things, Obama's carefully constructed ground game makes McCains look like a lemonade stand, he will turnout voters like no campaign before it. There simply is no polling template to measure this action, Obama continues to grow his lead in battleground and swing states, and the tide the Republicans face is just too powerful. This will be an electoral college whitewash, and McCain won't know what hit him. We just have to keep working hard over the stretch drive to make sure this is a 50%+ win for Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 10/21/2008
- jaslyn I'm a Fan of jaslyn 27 fans permalink

Thank You! the voice of reason.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 10/21/2008
- truesteam I'm a Fan of truesteam 26 fans permalink

****Questions if, you got the answers***************

I am one of those obsessed with the poll numbers. Though, I am not sure which polling companies are more reputable. I mainly tune into Pollster.com and 538. How does a PEW poll rank? Is it reliable? Is it sample balanced?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 10/21/2008
- wolfi101 I'm a Fan of wolfi101 4 fans permalink

Actually, I've been following CNN's "poll of polls" and follow their election map, because I think, they tend to be a bit more cautious.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/calculator/

( With respect to Pollster, 538, etc - I don't know. )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 10/21/2008

CNN's poll and map are TOO cautious as the don't really reflect any fluctuation. You should check out 538 which is looking at the election based on statistics and the science of betting. I know it sounds strange; maybe someone who knows that biz better can explain it. It shows the statistical chances of McCain or Obama winning from many different angles. CNN is old school.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 10/21/2008
- wolfi101 I'm a Fan of wolfi101 4 fans permalink

Yeah, I have to agree here --- between the stress of watching the polls fluctuate to the roller coaster of the DOW Jones... it could make everyone psychotic by the time November 4th gets here.

--- But really, people, we must remind ourselves not to take anything for granted --- especially those of you in toss-up or swing-states. Please vote either before or on election day --- but please - do - vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 10/21/2008
- huffy2001 I'm a Fan of huffy2001 50 fans permalink
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You gotta love Chris Matth ews...he was talking about Sar ah P and saying that the base loves her, but for people who read the newspapers and look with a dis crim inating eye at what is really going on...she's nowhere.

I guess it's hard to read while you're clingi ng to gu ns and rel igion

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 10/21/2008
- elcojonu I'm a Fan of elcojonu 28 fans permalink

Watch out for theft and manipulation; it's become a modus operandi of the Repugs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 10/21/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 456 fans permalink
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Along with slanted "polls" and the reports of "tightening races" RIGHT before an election. More lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 10/21/2008
- dartagnan I'm a Fan of dartagnan 53 fans permalink
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OF course the media will say the race is tight right up until the polls close -- they want to keep up the suspene to keep people watching/reading..

On the up side, this discourages us Obama supprters from getting complacent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 10/21/2008
- WolfLarsen I'm a Fan of WolfLarsen 34 fans permalink

The win will be too lopsided to steal.....but they will try.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 10/21/2008
- badscience I'm a Fan of badscience 3 fans permalink

After failing to steal the election the GOP will proclaim that the "Democrat Party" stole the election with the aid of the MSM, ACORN, GLBT, NAACP, ACLU and some other acronyms. And The Weathermen. And the Muslins.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 10/21/2008
- dartagnan I'm a Fan of dartagnan 53 fans permalink
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They'll have to steal half a dozen states to pull this one out of their butts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 10/21/2008
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True, but the bigger the margin of victory, the harder it is to steal. See? Size DOES matter!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 10/21/2008
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of one thing I am VERY sure: as a Constitutional scholar, Obama has a legal team trained in on every issue raised by the incidents of irregularity, fraud, intimidation and on and on that attach themselves to the republicans. And he's already shown that he's going to be proactive in addressing those issues--as in the case of ACORN. You can bet a year's pay that he is ready for every trick--and knows the relevant legal machinery in every case, knows how to use them--and WILL. Already is.

In fact, I'd be willing to bet they've got legal motions ready to file in every state that does not investigae harassment and violence against his supporters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 10/21/2008
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Cannot wait until November 4th. I claim to love this stuff but I am really strung out and only able to concentrate on one thing: winning this for our country for our time.

Barack Obama 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 10/21/2008

I'll be going through major withdrawal...like a number of people on this post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 10/21/2008
- wolfi101 I'm a Fan of wolfi101 4 fans permalink

I'll be relieved and elated, knowing that our time with the Bush Administration is coming to a close.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 PM on 10/21/2008

I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling this way! I can hardly concentrate on anything else right now. I'm so tense--I can't wait for November 5!

Obama/Biden 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 10/21/2008
- shaaronie I'm a Fan of shaaronie 4 fans permalink

Me too. I haven't had more than 4 hours of sleep in about three weeks now. My eyes are bloodshot. November 5th, my family plans to celebrate Thanksgiving on that day. It can't some fast enough. I really need some sleep!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 10/21/2008

I have troubles sleeping at night and have found myself going a bit crazy despite the confidence that Obama is the next president of the USA. I'm so beyond the election and just want to get it over with and start building an America to really be proud of... to live up to the image that we tout so much. I want to be part of this transformation. You know, it's not about who Obama is now, but rather about who he will become. He's destined to be the Kennedy of our age.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 10/21/2008

You know, it is interesting that as Obama's stock has gone up, trolls on this site have been putting out hints that we can just coast, maybe stay home on Nov. 4 - after all, he's got it in the bag.

But the media's penchant for ratings has caused them to promote this as a close horserace all the way. This may actually work in our favor. I have not heard much in the way of complacency from any Democrat I know. I believe a majority of Americans have dug their heads out of the sand and are actually studying the issues, and thinking about what each candidate's policies will do for them. I'm going to be fifty in a few days and I can say without doubt this is the most important election in my lifetime. Barring sudden death or becoming comatose, there's nothing, nothing that can stop me from voting Obama. I got my mail in ballot today (which I will fill out, then deliver by hand.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 10/21/2008
- dartagnan I'm a Fan of dartagnan 53 fans permalink
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You must be a fellow Oregonian. I'm from Bend. Where are you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 PM on 10/21/2008
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great as the poll numbers might be, I don't know ANYONE who's taking an Obama win for granted. We know too much about the slime and sleaze on the other side--and remember too well what happened in 2000 & 2004

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 10/21/2008
- pvernier I'm a Fan of pvernier 10 fans permalink
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LANDSLIDE !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 10/21/2008
- dzymzlzy I'm a Fan of dzymzlzy 5 fans permalink
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Only if everyone shows up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 PM on 10/21/2008
- jaslyn I'm a Fan of jaslyn 27 fans permalink

Of course they'll show up. Obama supporters are passionate, not armchair quarterbackers. Relax.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 10/21/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 502 fans permalink
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It doesn't matter what the polls say.

Obama supporters need to keep up the effort.

Vote early if you can.

TURNOUT IS EVERYTHING.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 10/21/2008

Turnout is everything; Please don't let you're guard down; just two weeks left, I was able to go yesterday, and took a Republican with me(husband), he assured me he would, for once do the right thing, but this is a RED state, and I couldn't be positive he did; but, at the least, I canceled out his vote, just in case he got a last minute case of "bad judgment"....

Obama~Biden,08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 10/21/2008
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We have been here before ... Hence our vigilance!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 10/21/2008

Don't take the pressure off for a moment and don't be like an idiot sprinter that puts his arms up before the tape only to be beaten at the line. I donated to "That One" last night and I urge you all to do the same. That's how we will win - by pressing our advantage on many fronts at once. And all of this helps the composition of congress too.

FiveThirtyEight.com is now showing a 1 in 3 chance of achieving a 60 seat majority in the senate! If that can happen, Obama will get so much more done.

O-08!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 10/21/2008

I voted early it felt so good to color in that oval by his name. I am also addicted to Pollster, Real clear politics, Daily Kos (the trendlines) and 538

I cannot stop myself from clicking on the polls in CO, FL, NC, NV, NM, PA, MO, OH, and VA

This is obsessive behavior I know but it will right itself when the election is over. Then I will just suffer from withdrawal.

Now I just worried about the Republicans 'stealing the vote" with their dirty tricks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 10/21/2008
- SOFOROBAMA I'm a Fan of SOFOROBAMA 5 fans permalink

For me, I'll be able to actually get some work done starting in November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 10/21/2008
- MissKaren I'm a Fan of MissKaren 43 fans permalink

I have a feeling that I can stay alive. I had promised to stick my head in the oven a la Sylvia Plath if McCain and Palin win but I really feel that there is a good wind blowin'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 10/21/2008
- truesteam I'm a Fan of truesteam 26 fans permalink

I guess I have not been allowing myself to go there. But, today I flipped radio stations during a commercial and was listening to Ro Kan(sp) local guy on a station that plays Rush. Ro is definitely right leaning. However, can be reasonable.
He said this is Senator Obama's to lose. However, it is not impossible that McCain can win.
I had the thought and literally was sick to my stomach. I can't even think about this country allowing that simp to be VP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 10/21/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 502 fans permalink
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I'll be able to get a decent night's sleep.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 10/21/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 456 fans permalink
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I'm just waiting to exhale. What a long, horrifying eight years it has been. I don't think I can stand any more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 10/21/2008

LOL! Amen to that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 10/21/2008
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