AP Poll That Shows Tightening Race Is Flawed

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First Posted: 10-22-08 05:18 PM   |   Updated: 11-22-08 05:12 AM

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AP/AmericaBlog:

A new poll was released earlier today by the Associated Press that seemed to make imply that the race was tightening on a national scale. The Associated Press said:

The poll, which found Obama at 44 percent and McCain at 43 percent, supports what some Republicans and Democrats privately have said in recent days: that the race narrowed after the third debate as GOP-leaning voters drifted home to their party and McCain's "Joe the plumber" analogy struck a chord.

AmericaBlog looked over the methodology, however, and a found that the poll skewed far too heavily in favor of Evangelical Christians. Click here for the complete breakdown:

The problem? In 2004, evangelicals/born-again Christians made up 23% of voters. But that same group makes up 44% of likely voters in AP's poll released today. That's almost double the number - it's totally implausible.

Read the whole story: AP/AmericaBlog

A new poll was released earlier today by the Associated Press that seemed to make imply that the race was tightening on a national scale. The Associated Press said: The poll, which found Obama at 4...
A new poll was released earlier today by the Associated Press that seemed to make imply that the race was tightening on a national scale. The Associated Press said: The poll, which found Obama at 4...
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when im feelin down about a stupid pol or something i iike to watch this.
NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 10/23/2008
- bola47 I'm a Fan of bola47 7 fans permalink
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thanks for the rickroll. haven't had one in a while.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 PM on 10/23/2008
- samuelberg I'm a Fan of samuelberg 6 fans permalink

rickrolls are as old as Biden's dentures.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 PM on 10/23/2008
- Knowitall I'm a Fan of Knowitall 79 fans permalink

Why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 10/23/2008

I definitely think this is ridiculous, but at the same time, I can't be upset. The closer we think the race is, the harder we will work. In some sick way, I almost feel as though polls like this will help us elect Obama because it keeps us on our toes - whether accurate or not. The fear of it being even semi-accurate is enough to make me want to fight harder to get the vote out. So, I don't condone the inaccurate polling, but I also cannot be upset about it since I think it will help a bit in the end.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 10/23/2008
- helenwheels I'm a Fan of helenwheels 587 fans permalink
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Well said! I was freaked out about this poll so very happy to see this story. I like your handle, by the way. Animal lovers ROCK. (I myself work for a big animal rights organization & love it)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 10/23/2008

Agreed...this poll, bogus as it is, will serve to remind us all that we need to sprint to the end and not let up. Our paper here, the Oregonian, featured an article on page 2 about it, also implying that the race is tight. What idiots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 10/23/2008
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When an organization such as The Associated Press starts skewing raw statistics in this manner it is time to review their validity as a news outlet altogether.
We may as well be watching Soviet crop reports on Vremya.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 10/23/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 229 fans permalink

AP fabricates a poll by doulbing the GOP's core constituency, and McCain STILL loses!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 AM on 10/23/2008
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Yes, so to put an even FINER point on things, we are watching 1972 crop reports on Soviet Vremya.
That was the first year that Soviet crops failed so badly that they started importing grain from American farmers, and yet the nightly news continued to announce that Soviet crop output was at record levels.
It's official, Baghdad Bob is running The Associated Press.
The very core organs of information that drive American awareness of the world around them
are now being manipulated to the whims of the power elite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 10/23/2008
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contact rachel on this "poll"

msnbc.comnbc.com

get out the vote democrats!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 10/23/2008
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thou shalt not lie AP !
tell the McCain-Palin-cheney idiots what they want to believe, racists, xenophobes, dangerous, rednecks..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 10/23/2008
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They want us to believe the race is close because of this:

The GOP is suppressing the Democratic vote, particularly the AA vote, and particularly in battleground states.

Rachel Maddow and Bobby Kennedy Jr. talk about voter suppression: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27313887#27313887

and Kennedy's article in Rolling Stone that Rachel says is required reading for her viewers: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23638322/block_the_vote

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 10/23/2008
- old lady I'm a Fan of old lady 99 fans permalink
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Repeat after me... the Emperor IS NOT wearing clothes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 10/23/2008

Ohh that evil liberal media.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 10/23/2008

These kind of numbers just make us Obama/Biden supporters work harder!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 10/23/2008
- Shashi0224 I'm a Fan of Shashi0224 95 fans permalink

The AP owes me one night's sleep!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 10/23/2008
- siciliabel I'm a Fan of siciliabel 5 fans permalink

Those who would seek to deceive with words are liars, those who would seek to deceive with numbers are statisticians--or in this case, AP pollsters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 10/23/2008
- alvdh1 I'm a Fan of alvdh1 25 fans permalink

There have been no new presidential polls released for Arizona since 9/28/2008. The electoral map, I guess, is embarrasing enough for John without heaping on anymore missery.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 10/23/2008
- KathyinCT I'm a Fan of KathyinCT 64 fans permalink

HELP -- Who knows how to get to AOL NEWS execs?

AOL has posted the AP POLL as their LEAD STORY on the opening page of the site. TODAY!!! So any independent voter who logs in sees it and thinks momentum is shifting.

HOW DO WE FIGHT AP AND AOL TO TAKE THIS STORY DOWN????

The AOL story, if anyone clicks through to it, buries the fact that every other poll has Obama up by 6 to 9 to 12 points. That info is about 10 paragraphs down and the story purports to explain why McCain has "MOVED UP" so dramatically.

THIS COULD SWAY SOME DUMB AOL READERS. (do not ask me why I even use AOL -- it's a long story and starts with my husband . . . . .)

HOW DO WE GET TO THEM??? Can someone at Huffington Post take this on?? Quickly??? Get a reporter to call AOL. HELP!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 10/23/2008
- kcmookie I'm a Fan of kcmookie 129 fans permalink
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Kathy, AOL has been in the tank for McCain for a long time, just ignore it. All you have to do is look at past polls on AOL to see what the dimwits on AOL already believe. No biggy, a lot of "kids" on AOL.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 10/23/2008
- alvdh1 I'm a Fan of alvdh1 25 fans permalink

Ron Fournier who is an unabashed die hard Republican probably ordered the evangelical skew to see if it would slip under the radar. I sent AP an email casitgating them for their flawed methodology. It is abundantly clear that the poll is flawed in light of the spate of new polls out this morning on Real Clear Politics that are running 11 points higher for Obama. 10/23/2008

Reuters/C-Span/Zogby National Obama 52 McCain 40
Big Ten Battleground Ohio Obama 53 McCain 41
Quinnipiac Ohio Obama 52 McCain 38
Big Ten Battleground Indiana Obama 51 McCain 41
Big Ten Battleground Michigan Obama 56 McCain 36

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 10/23/2008
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