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Greenspan denies blame for crisis, admits 'flaw'

MARTIN CRUTSINGER and MARCY GORDON | October 23, 2008 11:48 PM EST | AP

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Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, left, and Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) Chairman Christopher Cox arrive on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday,Oct. 23, 2008, prior to the start of a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing. (AP Photo/Lawrence Jackson)

WASHINGTON — Badgered by lawmakers, former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan denied the nation's economic crisis was his fault on Thursday but conceded the meltdown had revealed a flaw in a lifetime of economic thinking and left him in a "state of shocked disbelief."

Greenspan, who stepped down in 2006, called the banking and housing chaos a "once-in-a-century credit tsunami" that led to a breakdown in how the free market system functions. And he warned that things would get worse before they get better, with rising unemployment and no stabilization in housing prices for "many months."

Gloomy economic reports backed him up. New jobless claims soared to just under 500,000 for last week, and Goldman Sachs, Chrysler and Xerox all said they were cutting thousands more workers. On Wall Street, the Dow Jones industrials bounced erratically all day before finishing up 172 points _ after a two-day drop of nearly 750.

The financial crisis even prompted the Republican Greenspan, a staunch believer in free markets, to propose that government consider tougher regulations, including requiring financial firms that package mortgages into securities to keep a portion as a check on quality.

He said other regulatory changes should be considered, too, in such areas as fraud.

Also looking for solutions, another banking regulator told Congress the government was working on a loan-guarantee plan that could help many homeowners escape foreclosure as part of the $700 billion bailout legislation. That plan is being discussed by the Treasury Department and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., said FDIC Chairman Sheila Bair, who is pushing the idea.

Greenspan's interrogation by the House Oversight Committee was a far cry from his 18 1/2 years as Fed chairman, when he presided over the longest economic boom in the country's history. He was viewed as a free-market icon on Wall Street and held in respect bordering on awe by most members of Congress.

Not now. At an often contentious four-hour hearing, Greenspan, former Treasury Secretary John Snow and Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Christopher Cox were repeatedly accused by Democrats on the committee of pursuing an anti-regulation agenda that set the stage for the biggest financial crisis in 70 years.

"The list of regulatory mistakes and misjudgments is long," panel chairman Henry Waxman declared.

Greenspan, 82, acknowledged under questioning that he had made a "mistake" in believing that banks, operating in their own self-interest, would do what was necessary to protect their shareholders and institutions. Greenspan called that "a flaw in the model ... that defines how the world works."

He acknowledged that he had also been wrong in rejecting fears that the five-year housing boom was turning into an unsustainable speculative bubble that could harm the economy when it burst. Greenspan maintained during that period that home prices were unlikely to post a significant decline nationally because housing was a local market.

He said Thursday that he held to that belief because until the current housing slump there had never been such a significant decline in prices nationwide. He said the current financial crisis had "turned out to be much broader than anything that I could have imagined."

Greenspan's much-anticipated appearance before the House panel came as the Senate Banking Committee held its own hearing on what the government is doing now to get out of the mess.

Assistant Treasury Secretary Neel Kashkari, who is overseeing the $700 billion financial rescue effort that passed Congress on Oct. 3, said the administration was not only working to get federal purchases of bank stock started quickly but also the program to mop up troubled mortgage-related assets. He also said the government was working to make sure that directives in the legislation to help struggling homeowners avoid foreclosure were being addressed.

Kashkari said the plan could include setting standards that banks should follow for reworking mortgages to make them more affordable. He said the administration was considering a recommendation to provide government loan guarantees to cover the reworked mortgages to make the program more attractive to banks.

"We are passionate about doing everything we can to avoid preventable foreclosures," Kashkari told the committee.

The FDIC's Bair told the same Senate panel that the government needs to do more to help tens of thousands of people avoid foreclosure.

She said the FDIC was working "closely and creatively" with the Treasury Department to come up with a plan.

Greenspan was asked to defend a variety of actions he took as Federal Reserve chairman _ resisting recommendations to use the Fed's powers to crack down on subprime mortgages, for one. And opposing efforts to impose regulations on derivatives, the complex financial instruments that include credit default swaps, which have also figured prominently in the current crisis.

He said that outside of credit default swaps, the bulk of financial derivatives had not caused major problems. He said the boom in subprime lending occurred because of the huge demand for investment opportunities in a global economy, and he blamed the crash on a failure by investors to properly assess the risks from such mortgages, which went to borrowers with weak credit.

As for firms that package mortgages into securities, he said, "As much as I would prefer it otherwise, in this financial environment I see no choice but to require that all securitizers retain a meaningful part of the securities they issue."

On the billions of dollars of losses suffered by financial institutions because of their investments in subprime mortgages, Greenspan said he had been shocked by the failure of banking officials to protect their shareholders from their bad loan decisions.

"A critical pillar to market competition and free markets did break down," Greenspan said. "I still do not fully understand why it happened."

SEC Chairman Cox told the House panel that "somewhere in this terrible mess, laws were broken." And Snow said that lawmakers should have responded more quickly to his pleas for stronger regulation for mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which were taken over by the government last month.

In the meantime, Kashkari, the Treasury official overseeing the bailout program, said there has been much progress, resulting in "numerous signs of improvement in our markets and in the confidence in our financial institutions." Still, he cautioned, "the markets remain fragile."

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08:46 AM on 10/24/2008
Let's see the head of the FED, Is supposed to control the Banking Industry.

When banks were supporting illegal Mortgage bank loans, backed by commercial banks, bundled by Fannie and Freddie and the FED did not know this was happening. I did and so did the rest of America. What we did not was all of the Commercial Paper derivative and swaps that blew 3 Trillion into 52 Trillion.

I don't believe the FED was not aware, they joined the Big Bucks rip off of hard working Americans. Making million of the back of Americans with no sweat and now no risk.
07:12 AM on 10/24/2008
allan is right. a bigger problem nobody wants to talk about are personal & credit card debts.
bad housing loans are small in comparison to the credit card crisis at the ready to collapse like a credit card house of cards.
10:33 PM on 10/23/2008
"If there is any accountability left in our system, Greenspan, Rubin and Summers should not be telling anyone how to run anything. Instead, Barack Obama might do well to bring back Brooksley Born and promote to his team economists who haven't contributed to the ugly mess we're in."

http://www.alternet.org/workplace/102559/
03:03 PM on 10/23/2008
McCain = Bush....
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02:50 PM on 10/23/2008
Sheeeeit, Sir Alan, your ability to notice that the ship has left the port is supernova-ish!
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02:35 PM on 10/23/2008
Back in 2001 when ENRON, WORLD COM, GLOBAL CROSSING and others came crashing down because of lack of oversight/regulation due to plain greed by those at the helm Mr. Greenspan had a wonderful opportunity to seat and revise his model of this critical structure so he wouldn't find himself shocked when the scheme became popular. Humans always look after their own interests, selfishness and greed are bad habits that need to be in checked at all times. I hope the lesson has been learned.
01:39 PM on 10/23/2008
Part #1
Blaming Greenspan is like blaming the coal men feeding the furnace on the Titanic. Sure, he put in waaay too much fuel; but who directed his efforts? It just means he did us the "favor" of speeding this arrogant ship of fools to a quicker and more decisive end.

I really liked this story though.....

Its very well written, and you captured the inevitable, fumbling, finger pointing that is purposely distracting everyone from the main issues:

MAIN ISSUE #1:
The market meltdown has a lot to do with unruly, and unrestricted, greed on Wall Street...but the subprime mortgage issue is merely the scapegoat of choice. Where would we be now, if they had been successful at feeding the greed monsters the Social Security assets/income? Right now, its limited to the poor judgment of individuals & corporations spurred on by dreams of riches in the market through their complicit greed of "investing" their individual retirement funds. Think about it, what retirement system has Not Been doubled raped? Major corporations bankrupt to avoid their fund addition obligations (i.e. Delta Airlines, etc), and formerly "safe" mutual funds were also pillaged by intentional mis-investment in 'high risk/high return' stocks. But this isn't news, its just artfully hidden behind embarrassment & the Denial of "The American Delusion" (individuals too afraid to tell their spouses and friends how gullible/greedy they were; and financial institution & insurance company employees trying to keep their jobs for the same reasons)
01:38 PM on 10/23/2008
Part #2

America went on a greed fest&everyone patted each other on the back as "clever," as they went along.....never caring about ultimate impact(so long as it was shouldered by someone else "less clever!" Ego, does it know any limits when its let to reign over reason? Ayn Rand is screaming "I told you so" from beyond the grave ;-)

MAIN ISSUE #2:
The hidden economic war with China...the big Gorilla in the room, that no one dares talk about. It started with Kissinger.....selling the U.S out to China in a Greed fest for cheap products/high profits.
This is the opium war in reverse. To the Chinese, 100yrs is short term. In the U.S., short term is quarterly profits, &long term is an entire year! Hello!
So, they got us addicted to cheap stuff.....for the profits of some, &the self absorption of the consumer. Making consumption into an art form, Americans at all levels went for 'higher standard of living' &put it on easy credit cards. Can anyone Not see the economic serfdom here?

Without sounding like a conspiracy kook, I feel compelled to point out the obvious.....2any deductive, clear thinking, mind. Bankruptcy laws were conveniently changed a short time ago, to bail protect predatory lenders. Now, we are ALLOWING financial institutions to use $700 Billion to buy up their competition on the cheap? This, you point out very well....and I applaud your bravery in doing so.
01:31 PM on 10/23/2008
cox says "somewhere in this mess laws were broken"

thats good mr cox---here's the kicker -you were supposed to be the watchdog -where were you.???
01:30 PM on 10/23/2008
Part #3

It is time to not only point these things out, but to stand up and in the words of our famous "Network News" hero say:

"We are mad as hell, and are not going to take it anymore!"

Americans did this, ALMOST; when they flooded the congress & senate with calls & email to not bail out the crooks. Then, the skeleton rattlers did their dance:

1) "The world will go to hell, if we don't"
2) "China will win, hands down, if they call our debts. The dollar will fail, they will control the world economy!"

Well folks, they do already. And "the powers that be"...the people behind the curtain.....sold us all into economic slavery. Why? Because a populace is easier to control when you have what they desire; and they are in your debt.

The good news? Real life isn't about economics; its about, guess what?, life! Family, kids, growing and nurturing all forms of new life; in one's self first, then encouraging &supporting in others. The Real power lies in each our own control; if we let go of unhealthy ego and materialistic aspirations. So, all the mechanizations of these grafters are for not.
01:27 PM on 10/23/2008
Part #4

For this, we can thank Mr. Greenspan.....Mr. Bush.....and their puppet masters. Thanks for waking us up from a sugar sweet, but delusional none-the-less, dream. Thanks for showing us all so clearly, how empty this existence has become in our country; and we were so eagerly exporting all over the world. Thanks for waking us up, before we totally destroyed all life on this planet. For that is the the only logical outcome to unbridled greed......forfeiture of all that's really important in real life.

Economics are good...they can make sure that resources in a society are distributed efficiently. But that is all money is good for; not for true happiness, higher awareness, spiritual growth, or life-affirming behaviors. How many times does that have to be said, to sink in? how many times do humans have to live these cycles of greed, rise and fall of empires, to "get it?"

Lets hope they all get it this time around, because it might just be our last chance.

Let this titanic sink......life will go on, and probably a lot better for the "experience." So, thank you Mr. Greenspan. Thank you all. For making the point abundantly clear.

Just a few thoughts.... ;-)
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02:39 PM on 10/23/2008
Very well said.
01:27 PM on 10/23/2008
Just shows who really runs the country.
01:25 PM on 10/23/2008
There's another bubble of ARM mortgages resetting in 2010.
01:24 PM on 10/23/2008
Greenie says his low interest rates did not spawn this crisis.....hmmm

We make the cost of borrowing articially cheap, watch the predatory loans go unregulated, and then try the there's-gambling-at-Rick's explanation.
01:24 PM on 10/23/2008
a once in a century tsunami.

excuse me maestro , the problem with this hundred year span was you were in it with your wrong ideas.

it didnt just happen because of the passage of time , you had a lot to do with it .

you are in shocked disbelief. others, thanks to you, are in a state of personal and corporate bankruptcy.

i dont think the give a damn what state you are in.

passing the blame wont cut it