Unemployment Claims Rising Faster Than Expected As Recession Deepens

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CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER | October 23, 2008 05:21 PM EST | AP

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Graphic shows change in weekly jobless claims; 1c x 3 1/8 inches; 46.5 mm x 79.4 mm

WASHINGTON — Unemployment claims, already well into recession territory, are rising even faster than expected, leading economists to warn Thursday that the worst is yet to come.

As the Labor Department released bleak new numbers on the job market, Goldman Sachs, Chrysler and Xerox all announced they were cutting workers by the thousands, adding to the woes of an economy beset by tighter credit and wobbly banks.

The government said new applications for unemployment insurance rose 15,000 last week to a seasonally adjusted 478,000, above analysts' estimates of 470,000. Jobless claims above 400,000 are considered a sign of recession.

The White House, in unusually stark language, acknowledged the economy is going through what spokeswoman Dana Perino called a "rough ride."

"We expect our GDP (gross domestic product) number next week not to be a good one and the next quarter to be tough as well," Perino said.

The Commerce Department will release its first estimate of third-quarter economic performance Oct. 30, and Wall Street analysts project it will show the economy contracted by 0.5 percent, according to Thomson/IFR.

Many economists expect the decline to continue into the current quarter and the first three months of 2009, if not longer. The classic definition of a recession is at least two consecutive quarters of negative growth.

Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, testifying before a House committee, said he could not see "how we can avoid a significant rise in layoffs and unemployment."

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Zach Pandl, an economist at Barclays Capital, estimates that unemployment will rise to between 7 percent and 8 percent by early next year. Other economists have estimated it could rise to 8.5 percent.

Currently, the unemployment rate is 6.1 percent. Unemployment peaked at 6.3 percent in 2003 after the brief recession of 2001. It peaked at 7.8 percent in the 1991-92 recession, and above 10 percent in 1982.

The Goldman Sachs Group Inc. said it would cut about 3,260 jobs, or 10 percent of its work force, in the face of what Greenspan called a "once in a century credit tsunami" that has claimed several of Goldman's rival investment banks.

Also on Thursday, Chrysler LLC said it would cut 1,825 jobs and Xerox Corp. said it plans to eliminate 3,000 positions, or 5 percent of its work force.

Other companies have announced reductions this week: Yahoo Inc. is cutting 10 percent of its employees, or 1,500 people, drugmaker Merck & Co. is eliminating 7,200 positions, and financial services firm National City Corp. will shed 4,000 jobs.

The impact of the job losses is rippling through the economy. As jobs disappear, foreclosures rise when out-of-work homeowners can no longer make mortgage payments.

Home foreclosure filings jumped by 70 percent in the third quarter, according to the listing service RealtyTrac Inc. Nationwide, nearly 766,000 homes received at least one foreclosure-related notice from July through September, the company said.

Greenspan said that in order for the financial crisis to end, home prices must stabilize. But he said that was not likely to occur for "many months in the future."

Spending is falling, too. Americans who still have jobs are worried about keeping them, and those who have lost jobs must watch every penny. Consumer spending accounts for about 70 percent of the economy, and economists estimate it fell by more than 3 percent last quarter in what would be the first quarterly drop in 17 years.

Democrats in Congress have urged that unemployment benefits, which last for 26 weeks, be extended as part of a new economic stimulus package. Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama endorsed that plan in a statement Thursday, and said he would also "suspend the taxes on those benefits and jump-start job creation by giving small businesses emergency loans and tax credits for each new job they create."

His Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain, said he would "make sure that bailout dollars are used to ... stop the foreclosures and free-fall in housing prices."

"Times are tough, and we need immediate action to take this economy in a new direction," he said in a statement.

The four-week average of jobless claims, which smooths out fluctuations, dropped slightly last week from a seven-year high to 480,250, the Labor Department said.

The number of people continuing to claim unemployment insurance dropped by 6,000 to a seasonally adjusted 3.72 million, down from 3.73 million, a five-year high.

Claims were also higher because of the impact of Hurricane Ike in Texas, the department said, which added about 12,000 requests for unemployment benefits, the same as the previous week.

Worries over the economy and financial instability have caused the stock market to fluctuate wildly recently. On Thursday, stocks initially fell but then recovered, and the Dow Jones industrials finished up 172 points, or about 2 percent.

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Associated Press writers Martin Crutsinger in Washington and Tim Paradis in New York contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Unemployment claims, already well into recession territory, are rising even faster than expected, leading economists to warn Thursday that the worst is yet to come. As the Labor De...
WASHINGTON — Unemployment claims, already well into recession territory, are rising even faster than expected, leading economists to warn Thursday that the worst is yet to come. As the Labor De...
 
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ITS WHERE THE CLASS OF THE NEW GENERATION IS CAMPAIGNING :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 10/24/2008

If it works for the Defense Industry, then it should work for me.

If you can really borrow $1 million a minute, why not $2 or $3? I see no problem here.

(Hey, I said, I see NO PROBLEM here! If YOU saw no problem in the last twenty years, then there must BE no problem.)

Totaling up the numbers in this story, I see that 13,585 people lost their jobs. Okay, I think they deserve to all make $100,000 a year. That will cost a mere $1.358 billion. At current rates of borrowing from oneself, it will take a mere 1,358.5 minutes. About 22 hours. In other words, by the end of the business day TODAY, the United States Government WILL have "borrowed from itself" enough money to pay all those people a nice fat annual salary.

Next issue: 766,000 foreclosures. Figure 400K per mortgage. Ooh, 306,400 minutes. 5,106 hours. 212 days. But we can double the borrowing rate and get that down to just under 3 months.

No problem! I see how this works!!

Look: this DID "work for you" for twenty years. Now it's our turn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 10/24/2008

McCain says trade deals that export US jobs is the answer.

No wonder Bush must beg the Communist Chinese for a trillion dollar loan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 AM on 10/24/2008

8 years of Republican deregulation coming home to roost.
We can not afford Republican senators fillabustering against change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 AM on 10/24/2008
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I tried to save everyone, but they wouldn't listen to me they just laugh at me then. I warned them, I saw this coming well over four years ago Now the water raising so fast, and moving swiftly through every cities, town, and village no one is safe, it's going to cover the entire world in a day, " Bush and McCain Tsunami" I built my Ark four years ago, when George W. Bush raise his right hand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 AM on 10/24/2008
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ummm.. duhhhh,
and remember that the numbers of people collecting unemployment do not count those whose benefits have run out even though they have not found employment...
When we have no jobe we cannot buy stuff...
When we cannot buy stuff we will not be employed to make stuff nobody is buying.

When we are all unemployed the economists say .. gee maybe we are having a recession.
And somewhere some executive who has just laid off 3000 workers is buying a house in the hamptons, thinking about what a great country we live in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 10/24/2008
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As much as all this shee aht sucks, I have to say, "Duh." When you have an economy that's based on consumption, and then you have consumers who can't afford to consume anymore. Well, the end result is, loss of jobs. Elementary, my dear Watson. It's a sad, cold day in he!! when Harry Scrote can negotiate this economic "puzzle" that these financial "gurus" can't seem to fathom, even though they're being paid to fathom it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 10/23/2008

This is why so many people are and will loose their jobs:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coyote2012

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 10/23/2008
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The jobless claims or jobs loss is an astounding 750, 000. After this loss, the number of job loss could be one million .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 PM on 10/23/2008
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I expect them to climb very fast. Who isn't?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 10/23/2008

Not good. I planned to look for a newer job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 10/23/2008

A narrative of what is going on, but do not refer to the cause or what is to be done to alleviate or cure the plight of millions who are affected and hundreds of millions who will be affected in the near future as things are getting worse. However I found this article useful to provide a better understanding of the root cause:
http://www.left.ru/inter/2003/november/salari.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 10/23/2008
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You're right! I think they can't wait to start blaming/pinning this situation on Obama and the Democrats. Doesn't it seem like the McCain/Palin ticket is just a way to serve the country up to the Democrats, rusted, flat tires, busted transmission, faulty brakes and all, and hope for an accident?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 10/23/2008
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This was supposed to be a reply to DFL's post. I'll be like the Republicans and blame somebody else, in this case, Huffpo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 10/23/2008
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Actually they already have. When the Senate was questioning Greenspan yesterday, A Republican tried to get Greenspan and the other 2 that were being questioned to say that this was all caused by Freddie and Fannie Mac who in turn had ties to Obama.

Greenspan and the other two said uh...no. while they (Fannie and Freddie) were contributing factors, wasn't the sole reason. But no matter what people say, they will keep trying to blame Obama and the Dems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 10/24/2008
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Notice how neo cons still dont want the media to use the "r" word but after Barack gets in they will use it big time calling it the Obama recession!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 10/23/2008
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They will also start screaming for the government to use real numbers for inflation. If we had used real numbers for inflation, we would have been in a recession a long time ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 10/23/2008

You're absolutely correct. Had the price of fuel and food been included in government calculations, it would show our economy began to decline in 1999.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 10/24/2008
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