Obama Winning Georgia? How He Could Pull Off An Upset

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First Posted: 10-24-08 02:27 PM   |   Updated: 11-24-08 05:12 AM

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A new InsiderAdvantage/Poll Position survey shows the remarkable: Barack Obama could very well win the deep-red state of Georgia.

The Illinois Democrat, according to the poll, has a slight edge over John McCain -- by a margin of 48 percent to 47 percent. The findings represent an outlier from other public opinion surveys, though Democracy Corps had the race extremely tight just a few days ago. The attention they are garnering is driven as much by the novelty as by a sincere belief that Obama could pull off the upset.

But from a strictly numerical standpoint, political observers shouldn't be all that shocked if the Democrats flips the Peach State. The data certainly lines up in Obama's favor.

The population in Georgia, according to the 2005 U.S. Census estimate, breaks down roughly as follows: 61.5 percent white, 30 percent African-American, and 6.5 percent Hispanic.

But the political map has, traditionally, been different. In 2004, the Georgia voting public consisted of roughly 3,280,000 individuals who broke down as follows: 70 percent white, 25 percent African-American, and 4 percent Hispanic.

Those dynamics led to a fairly easy victory for George W. Bush. The president took 76 percent of the white vote, 12 percent of the black vote, and 56 percent of the Hispanic vote en route to winning the state by a margin of 58 percent to 41 percent.

Flash forward four years and every change in Georgia's demographics appears to be favoring Obama. The Hispanic vote, which is growing in the state, is trending his way. The white vote is still predominantly Republican, but McCain's trouble with the base suggests he won't match the success that Bush enjoyed. And African-Americans are expected to go to the polls in record numbers.

So what does this mean in practical political terms? A Democratic friend does the math:

The big question is not if African-Americans' share of the electorate will increase, but by how much and what that will do to the share of the electorate made up by whites. The potential electorate could look as follows.
Whites: 64 percent African Americans: 31 percent Hispanics: 5 percent
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Let's say McCain gets 71% of the white vote, Obama 26%, and [Third Party candidate] Bob Barr 3%, which is reasonable and perhaps a bit cautious on Obama's and Barr's shares. Then there is the Hispanic vote, which favored Bush in 2004 but nearly everyone has now given Obama roughly 2-1. Meanwhile, let's put Obama's support among African-Americans at 95%, which I think is reasonable.

The end result -- if one assumes the same number of voters that showed up four years ago (3,280,000) come to the polls next week -- would be as follows:

Obama would end up with 49.39 percent of the vote (approximately 1,610,000 votes) McCain would end up with 48.64 percent of the vote (approximately 1,590,050 votes)
This is, to be sure, the most optimistic scenario that Democrats can imagine. Matt Bocian of Democracy Corps says that in all likelihood, the African-American vote will hover somewhere between 26 and 27 percent, even with record turnout. One must consider that a portion of that group isn't of age to vote. And without an accompanying drop in McCain's support among whites, Obama could fall short of the upset.

Still, Georgia should be a state to watch on November 4th. Throughout the Democratic primary, pollsters consistently underestimated Obama's tallies in southern states, despite pegging Hillary Clinton's numbers accurately. In Georgia, for example, Obama's support jumped from 50 percent in early February to 66 percent when the vote took place, while Hillary Clinton stayed roughly at 30 percent.

In addition, the Obama campaign has done absolute yeomen's work in reaching out to and registering African-American voters. More than 400,000 newly registered voters were reported between January 1st and September 30th, according to the Atlanta Journal Constitution; 164,859 of those voters are African-American, 176,570 are white.

If African-Americans can defy pollster expectations and go to the polls at a level approaching 30 percent while McCain's support among white voters hovers around 70 percent, it could portends a very close election in Georgia and, potentially, an Obama win.

A new InsiderAdvantage/Poll Position survey shows the remarkable: Barack Obama could very well win the deep-red state of Georgia. The Illinois Democrat, according to the poll, has a slight edge over ...
A new InsiderAdvantage/Poll Position survey shows the remarkable: Barack Obama could very well win the deep-red state of Georgia. The Illinois Democrat, according to the poll, has a slight edge over ...
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i'm not surprised by this news, since july i have had quite a few friends change their minds about obama, once they saw through all the crap being spread by the brain donors feeding at the republican mud buffet they slowly came around. early on i was surrounded by three hostile mccain backers who couldn't believe i was voting for obama. i gave them each a chance to change my mind. one by one i stopped them with facts against their smear tactics. haven't seen much of them lately at the local watering hole! i have had a chance to meet both martin and gillespie and will vote for both as well. funny thing is that some of the republicans i know voting for mccain are voting for martin and gillespie as well.for the first time in my life i will probably vote straight ticket....our republican leaders in state government have helped make this easier to do!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:36 PM on 11/03/2008
- Buddy McCue I'm a Fan of Buddy McCue 134 fans permalink
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Real Clear Politics shows GA as a toss-up state this morning! I watched it go from red to pink to gray. As a Georgia resident, I couldn't be happier.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 10/30/2008

You're not nearly optimistic enough. You think white Georgians aren't sick of the war that never ends siphoning off money that could go to building good jobs so we wouldn't have to export our children and they would have something to come back to, maybe even with health care they could afford without losing their retirement accounts? You think rural south Georgia doesn't know how bad off it is, and doesn't want renewable energy manufacturing so it can produce something?
Think again!
And don't stop with Obama and Martin.
Clean House, too!
Replace Jack "flag pin" Kingston with a progressive Democrat: Bill Gillespie, GA-01.
http://www.actblue.com/page/oust_jack_elect_bill_ga_01

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 10/25/2008
- toppergem I'm a Fan of toppergem 5 fans permalink

I was at the Obama headquarters in Augusta a few hours ago and hear a guy say Obama was going to be in Atlanta sometime next week. Has anyone else hear this? If he is coming where will he be speaking?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 PM on 10/25/2008
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Hey, I'm in Augusta too. Is this a true rumor??? I am SO THERE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 PM on 10/26/2008
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Well I'm doing my best to turn Georgia blue. Everyone in my community is registered and ready to go. In fact many have already voted.

We can do this GEORGIA!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 10/25/2008
- Hopeington I'm a Fan of Hopeington 68 fans permalink
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Demographics? The media should remember that after Bush took office, many middle income families, had to come to the realization they would never be able to afford a home in California, and they left in droves to family-tie home states.
I worked as a "lunch lady" for 7 years, from the last few years of Clinton into at least 4 years of Bush, I witnessed this. It effected workers from warehousing, the county office of education employees, hairdresses,dental assistants veternarnian services,teachers and/or their immediate family members.
They all started having to take their lunch to work years ago. My real estate and lending institution clients were the only ones that could either buy any thing or were too busy to eat.
I think this migration of people, many of them Democrats, to these areas, Missouri, N Carolina and even Georgia, is a contributing factor in the support we are seeing now especially, when it comes to the issue of home ownership security.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 10/25/2008
- WriterGirl I'm a Fan of WriterGirl 5 fans permalink
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This article is a nice one to read before bedtime for sweet dreams. The reality? It'll never happen in the land of crucifixes. I really do hate to be a nay-sayer, but the majority of people here vote to support their church, not their state or country. They are unable to distinguish between the three, and whatever gets preached in the pulpit is what happens at the polls.

I've lived in the deep South for over 40 years now, and all you have ever had to do is mention school prayer, abortion, or homosexuality, and within seconds, masses of people start foaming at the mouth and transcend into the depths of psychosis. I have come to believe that there is an "irrational fear" gene in the population here.

As long as Repugs stoke these fires, the only hope reasonable people have of gaining any ground here is an influx of people from outside the region. It hasn't happened in time for this election. But I do think that Obama has inspired enough people to come out to vote for him that the GOP is quaking in it's boots. I'm just grateful for that much!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 10/25/2008
- j.gold I'm a Fan of j.gold 4 fans permalink

The South is changing. Many of our young have grown up together, gone to school together and look at thing differently the their baby boomer parents. Also, Southerners of all kinds are feeling the effects of Bush and the culture wars don't hold true to as many as they used to. If Virgina can go blue Georgia could go blue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 10/25/2008

I'm a GA resident that has been out of state working in TN for a while. I wanted to absentee vote, but faxing my application in didn't pan out because the lines were ALWAYS busy. I saw that the state is projected to go red, so a part of me was like, don't bother. BUT NOW... I am going to take a PTO day and get my behind down to Gwinnett county and do my best to turn the tide. I have never registered with either party - a true independent, but I am going for Obama! Any exiled Georgians, get home and take another state out of McCain's hands.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 10/25/2008
- kerry1962 I'm a Fan of kerry1962 2 fans permalink
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Repubs underestimate everyone. All African Americans are endorsing O because he's black, No Dems have the interest of rural voters at heart. White rural voters will surely vote M/P. Etc., Etc., Etc. Could it be that the electorate isn't as dumb as the Repub machine hopes it is? Could it be that thinking human beings are making a choice? What happened to the flying monkeys when the Wicked Witch melted? Does anyone remember? I don't and I don't care. Fly away little monkeys, fly away!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 10/25/2008
- zanbama I'm a Fan of zanbama 13 fans permalink
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It's called DEMOGRAPHICs! I was born and raised in Boston, MA and moved to Georgia 5 years ago. I have met a lot of peple from up north.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 10/25/2008
- j.gold I'm a Fan of j.gold 4 fans permalink

Don't think you can take all the credit, I know many democrat Southerners. My Aunt and Uncle have lived in a small town in GA for 45 years and they always vote democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 10/25/2008
- toppergem I'm a Fan of toppergem 5 fans permalink

Voting in Augusta, GA has been brisk since we began early voting in September. The vast majority of early voters have been democrats...which is an encouraging sign. So don't be surprised come November
4th when Georgia goes democratic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 10/25/2008
- RobHughey I'm a Fan of RobHughey 15 fans permalink
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Hey, another HuffPo comment from someone in Augusta. That excites me. Nice to meet you toppergem... I have high hopes for Augusta turn-out and for the rest of Georgia as well. We can turn this state blue. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 10/26/2008

Atlanta here. Barack or Joe coming to Georgia would make such an impact. The coverage would bleed into Alabama, Florida, Tennessee and South Carolina. SC would be flanked on both sides. I vote for a rally in Centennial Park or even at one of the many farms in central Georgia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 10/25/2008
- MamaBird62 I'm a Fan of MamaBird62 84 fans permalink

I agree! I'm an SC native now living in Seattle, but my ties to that area are very strong. My relatives there would be so thrilled with an Obama victory in either NC or GA, they've got no hope for SC this time around. If the polls continue to show a close there, you might get your wish of a campaign visit. I' m out here cheering for you!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 PM on 10/25/2008

I live in rural Georgia and have been disgusted and embarressed by the red Ga. in the electoral maps, thanks for giving me hope, I have heard the negative comments of McCain repeated as facts by his supporters here and they refuse to listen to reason. I will vote Monday and hope all of Obama's supporters will vote as soon as possible, we aren't all uneducated, ignorant red-necks here.-

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 10/25/2008

Go Georgia! Go Martin...! He even has the right name!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 AM on 10/25/2008
- kerry1962 I'm a Fan of kerry1962 2 fans permalink
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There are Repubs, based upon all the polls, keep harkening back to Truman/Dewey. However, what was underestimated in that race was the ground game that Truman had. Polls at that time could only poll major cities and in a limited way. Not that I live by the polls but more to the point, the ground game in key. Obama has a major ground game. Has since day one. Harkens back to his days as a community organizer. No experience?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 AM on 10/25/2008
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