Bankers, Brokers Fleeing Wall Street For Fresh Start

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VALERIE BAUMAN | October 26, 2008 02:53 PM EST | AP

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In this Oct. 2, 2008 file photo, a man walks to work on Wall St. Thursday, Oct. 2, 2008 in New York. Many Wall Street bankers and brokers are already scrambling to relocate their families, possessions and rarified talent to far-flung venues including Florida, Chicago, Milwaukee, Virginia, and Asia to find a job and get out from under an avalanche of layoffs. (AP Photo/Mark Lennihan, file)

ALBANY, N.Y. — Bankers and brokers looking to escape the financial meltdown are scrambling to relocate their families, possessions and rarified talent far from Wall Street to places such as Florida, Chicago, Milwaukee, Virginia and Asia.

Travis Lacey left investment bank Jeffries & Co. and Wall Street behind in September to work for Baird in Chicago. He also left behind the nagging sense of worry that had plagued him since his company had started announcing layoffs earlier in the year.

"Anyone in that environment, you never know what's going to happen," Lacey said. "There are a lot of good bankers that unfortunately are at the wrong place at the wrong time, especially in New York."

Corporate headhunters say Wall Street's malaise will lead to a permanent talent loss for New York. It could help small boutique firms become bigger players with employees they would never have been able to lure from the city long-regarded as the world's financial capital.

"We're definitely hiring," said Robert Escobio, chief executive officer of Coral Gables, Fla.-based Southern Trust Securities Inc., a broker-dealer and investment banking firm. "Right now we have the capital, and right now we're looking to expand. And I think that's what a lot of boutiques are looking to do, too."

Escobio said in the past few months, one out of every four or five resumes comes from top Wall Street firms _ compared with about one out of 100 in years past.

Former Wall Streeters also tend to bring clients with larger net worth _ another potential long-term blow to firms trying to recover from the meltdown _ so boutiques and middle market firms stand to reap the profits. In turn they deliver something that's currently elusive on Wall Street: stability. Jobs in the financial sector can pay anywhere from $100,000 to well into the seven-figure range depending on location, experience and the size of a firm, said Kimberly Bishop, vice chairman of Slayton Search partners, a Chicago-based headhunting firm.

"There's some talent available to some companies that wasn't available before," she said.

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Wall Street workers who are thinking about relocating need to be flexible about income, Bishop said. Some junior Wall Street workers may be able to get more senior positions in smaller firms, getting comparable or better pay. But many more will make less while benefiting from a cheaper cost of living outside of New York City.

"They are going to make less, most of them," said Kurt Kraeger, the managing director of the New York Office of Robert Walters headhunting firm. "Even before this (economic downturn), the same type of positions overseas, let's say, did pay about 20 percent less than you would make here ... the people who go to smaller firms, often times the bonuses are smaller."

New York is the top paying state for personal financial advisers, with an average salary of $131,660, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor statistics. Colorado followed, paying an average of $119,590, then Massachusetts, with an average pay of $116,170, according to the 2007 occupational employment survey.

Idaho was the lowest paying state for financial advisers, paying an average of $50,980. West Virginia, North Dakota, Alaska, Nebraska and Kentucky all follow, paying an average below $60,000 a year for the same job.

Middle market and boutique firms are also appealing because they offer increased job responsibility and freedom, said Peter Kies, a managing director at Robert W. Baird, a Milwaukee-based middle market firm.

"As every round of cuts occurred, we got an increasing flow of resumes," Kies said. "You can have a Wall Street kind of experience and live in Richmond, Milwaukee or Chicago."

Baird has seen roughly 50 percent more applications from Wall Street than they received last year, he said.

European and Asian banks are also seeing the abundance of workers as an opportunity to strengthen their position in the U.S. market.

"I'm noticing that people are willing to work places that they would have hung up on me if I had suggested it a year ago," Kraeger said of his headhunting work.

More bankers are willing to go to Asia than ever before because it is still viewed as an emerging market, said James Constable, owner of Albany Beck Consulting, an English headhunting firm that places financial workers in jobs from London to Singapore.

"Banks (in New York and London) are not looking to add to their work force in the short term," Constable said in an e-mail interview. "This means that the volume is down, so instead the banks are opting to hire one senior candidate rather than a number of more junior ones."

So far this month, Albany Beck has received 38 percent more resumes from Wall Street candidates willing to work overseas than they did in October of 2007, Constable said.

New York Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli expects 40,000 Wall Street jobs could be lost by the end of the year. So far he said 13,200 people have lost jobs in New York's financial sector since a year ago.

While some boutiques and middle market firms were hit hard by the economic downturn, larger banks had bought much more of the toxic mortgage-backed assets at the heart of the meltdown.

While headhunting to link new securities jobs with Wall Street casualties is one of the few growth industries these days, it's not easy, said Robin Judson, managing director of Smiths Hanley Associates LLC, a New York City hiring firm.

The finance job market is flooded with highly qualified executives and bankers, but "there aren't enough jobs to go around," Judson said.

ALBANY, N.Y. — Bankers and brokers looking to escape the financial meltdown are scrambling to relocate their families, possessions and rarified talent far from Wall Street to places such as Flor...
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I used to work at a bank, and so did many people I know. We all ended up wondering the same thing: how the heck do such wasteful and stupid organizations say in business?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 10/29/2008
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The pustule known as Wall Street has split open, releasing its contents of billions of spores to float freely across America. Landing in small villages and towns these silent marauders will take root and set up business in banks and investment firms. At this point they will be impossible to control. We are doomed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 10/29/2008
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Let's face one fact. Financial advisers, along with everyone else making money on paper
transactions, cannot put their clients above their own survival. That makes good sense.
I. personally have lost large sums (on paper only) during this past year. Does this cause
me great grief and depression (no pun intended)? No! I sell nothing and I buy nothing.
I wait. My life support is completely separate from my investment nonsense. That money
is for my children and grandchildren. I would never spend it anyway. Am I afraid of losing
that capital bolus? Not at all. My father went through the great depression (1929) and
never suffered at all (except during Prohibition). He used the down time to get a Ph.d
in English at an east coast University. We make too much of money. I have, in my life,
been happier on less. I have more fun now giving money away than spending it. We
Americans place too much value on tangible assets and not enough on enlightened
education. I live in America and Europe, and I spend very little money. Think! hipo

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 AM on 10/29/2008

I love your comment! And I agree completely that most people need to stop worrying about money and start learning how to live...even when they have less. I too have been very happy with much less. Good luck!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 10/29/2008

McCAIN SAYS HE'S A BIG BELIEVER IN THE "TROOPS TO TEACHERS" PROGRAM. MAYBE HE'LL START THE "CROOKS TO SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS" PROGRAM TOO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 10/28/2008

Similar to the Gold Rush back in the days, huh? When that vein runs out of gold...go elsewhere and dig some more. We had them all in one location before...why didn't we just put a big fence around the place and turn off the power. Just like any other drug dealer...when the location gets hot, set up your distribution center somewhere else.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 10/28/2008

They're moving to other parts of the globe. It the movement similar to that of a plague or a cancer?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 10/27/2008

Taking their disease with them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 10/28/2008

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If A-Holes could fly, Wall Street would an airport. I need a hedge fund mgr like I need another hole in my head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 10/27/2008

Guys who caused this financial mess while getting 300+ K per year on average should never be allowed to work in the banking sector again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 10/27/2008

Well, check the "boutique" firm that handles your money. They may have added a layer of high priced designs that make make for a spectacular presentation but cannot be worn twice; kind of like dresses on Oscar night.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:43 AM on 10/28/2008

Read what they are NOT saying about the financial crisis:

http://www.vaboomer.com/the_portal_to_boomeranger/2008/10/mortgage-crisis-the-history.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 10/27/2008

Do you see the grin on Bushes face? That means he screwed Wall Street too. How many have killed themselves so far? Only 4 that we know, they're already starting judy like when the market crashed & the Grear Depression. Precott Bush, president of The World Bank gave Hitler the money for his holocaust, & the knowlege to steal America's freedoms, after all the constitution is just a god damned piece of paper.

If the market crashes, I hope we never havve wall street again. Let's just work with Main Street.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 10/27/2008
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http://www.financialweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081008/REG/810089997/1036
George Walker is the kingpin in the newly reincarnated asset management firm that"s emerging from the collapse of Lehman Brothers. When Mr. Walker, the President"s cousin, assumed the role of managing director and global head of the investment management unit of the i-bank late in 2006, an investment banker said: "Everyone in the universe is watching what George Walker will do at Lehman." The same is true now that Mr. Walker has managed to negotiate a deal to sell the $230 billion asset management division he heads to equity firms Bain Capital and Hellman & Friedman.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 10/28/2008

I think Palin would call you Unamerican for that last sentence. But it is Buscho's worst fear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 10/28/2008

Well, the bright side is that there will be plenty of empty foreclosed homes for them as they drive aimlessly from place to place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 10/27/2008

i see lot of people being all happy about wall street workers plights.

keep us updated on your autoworker brethren in Detroit :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 10/27/2008

The autoworkers would have gone anyway; it was part of the Wall Street Plan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 10/28/2008

Has anyone noticed that the lead lines on the homepage addresses Wall Street bankers fleeing with their wealth...

Yet, in reading the article, it does seem to be what most people here are addressing: the strangest Human Interest story I have read in a while.

A harsh comparision would be reading about the trials and tribulations Nazi generals faced, only being offered jobs in third world regimes, yet leading the article with "Nazis Fleeing with Looted Art and Gold."

Has there been crimes acknowledged in regard to the Looting of America? This should include not only the bankers and brokers, but the mortgage holders that LIED about incomes, and abiliity to pay.

Any well read person heard about these "Trust Me" home loans, yet everyone from Greenspan to O'really is shocked, shocked, at the outcome....

If only we had a clear warning the greedy people do what's in their best interests in relation to their related historical punishment...

The Cheating Five
World Con
End Run

Who could have imagined this would happen?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 10/27/2008
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Where were our elected officials in all of this mess? Why are the American people so complacent? We've forgotten all about this travesty already. Why haven't there been organized marches on Wall Street, demanding that the federal government seize the personal assets of these Wall Street CEO's? Why haven't there been organized marches on Washington, demanding justice? I'd be there if there were. Yes, we wrote to our congressional representatives; nice, polite letters, telling them we didn't approve of the bailout. While we were being polite, we were robbed! People, wake up! Pick up a picket sign. Get the attention of the NY media. Do something! Everyone that I talk to is so angry, but feels powerless. These people who were making these bad deals, gambling with our lives and those of our children, should be tried and executed for treason. They brought this country to it's knees. We are on our knees in front of the entire world, and they are still in their mansions, with their multi-billion dollar compensation packages and our government has done nothing, except bankrupt us for generations to come.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 10/28/2008
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So much for the ever-increasing cost of home consoles.

My PS2 is looking like such a great investment right now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 10/27/2008

They're fleeing to avoid prosecution.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 10/27/2008

Perhaps, with a little retraining, they can get public school teacher jobs in math. It would be better than McBush's "Troops to Teachers" focus . Or perhaps they can pick fruit or work in the meat packing industry and relieve America's need for seasonal migrant workers. The possibilities are endless as long as you don't want to make a living wage. Welcome to the Third World America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 10/27/2008

Yesterday's story was that there has been a decrease in male teachers throughout the country (along with a lot of hand wringing). ...but I'm not sure that this group should be left alone with children.

I need to goggle Troops to Teachers. Hope it is not what I think it is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 10/28/2008

It's like Jon Stewart said, former hedge brokers trimming your hedges? THAT would be poetry...

http://www.jokerzinternetradio.com/phpmotion/play.php?vid=108

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 10/27/2008
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