Gunfire brings down US helicopter in Afghanistan

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FISNIK ABRASHI | October 27, 2008 01:09 PM EST | AP

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An image taken from a video shows US soldiers after a suicide attack at a police station in Pul-e-Khumri, the capital of Baghlan province, north of Kabul, Afghanistan, Monday, Oct. 27, 2008. A suicide bomber wearing a police uniform blew himself up inside a police station in northern Afghanistan on Monday, killing two American soldiers and wounding five other people, officials said. (AP Photo/APTN)

KABUL, Afghanistan — Insurgents exchanged fire with U.S. troops aboard a Black Hawk helicopter in central Afghanistan on Monday before the aircraft was hit and forced to land. The crew was rescued, but in the north a suicide bomber killed two U.S. soldiers.

Lt. Cmdr. Walter Matthews, a U.S. military spokesman, said there were no U.S. casualties as a result of the crash in a province neighboring Kabul.

"The helicopter crew exchanged fire with the enemy before the damage brought the helicopter down," Matthews said.

At least four militants were killed in the exchange, said Fazel Karim Muslim, the chief of Sayed Abad district.

Another helicopter hovered as the U.S. troops secured the area around the downed chopper, which didn't appear to sustain major damage, Muslim said.

The U.S. and other foreign forces rely heavily on helicopters for transportation around Afghanistan, which is covered by rough mountains and long stretches of desert and has few decent roads. Insurgents rarely bring down military helicopters, though they have hit several in recent years.

Wardak province has seen an increase in insurgent activity the last two years, and its main highway is now extremely risky to travel on, particularly at night. In mid-October, a U.S. Special Forces raid freed a kidnapped American working for the Army Corps of Engineers who had been held captive in Wardak for two months.

Also Monday, a suicide bomber wearing a police uniform blew himself up at a police station in northern Afghanistan, killing two American soldiers and wounding five other people, including an American, officials said.

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The bomber entered a police station in Pul-e-Khumri, capital of Baghlan province, while Afghan officials were meeting with U.S. troops advising a police training program, provincial police chief Gen. Abdul Rahman Sayed Kheil said.

The blast killed two American soldiers who had been beside a beige Humvee, AP Television News footage of the blast scene showed.

It was not immediately clear if the bomber was a policeman or just wearing the police uniform.

Zabiullah Mujahid, a Taliban spokesman, claimed responsibility for the blast in a phone call to an Associated Press reporter. Mujahid said the bomber's name was Abdul Had and that he was from Baghlan province.

Militants in Afghanistan have in the past disguised themselves in police or army uniforms when attacking Afghan and foreign troops. But actual policemen in the Afghan force were responsible for at least two recent attacks in eastern Afghanistan in which two U.S. soldiers died after police opened fire on them.

More U.S. and NATO troops have died this year in Afghanistan than any other year since the 2001 U.S. invasion, in part because Taliban militants are launching increasingly complex and deadly attacks.

But NATO's top commander in Afghanistan, U.S. Gen. David McKiernan, said he is tired of negative headlines and what he sees as a wave of unwarranted pessimism in news reports.

"Somebody likes to report an attack somewhere and that becomes the trend in Afghanistan, or they don't report the positive events or the absolute brutality or the illegitimacy of the Taliban," McKiernan told The Associated Press in an interview Sunday.

"What happens sometimes in reporting is that there's this idea that the Taliban is at the gates of Kabul, or after Sarposa (a massive June prison break) they're about ready to take control of Kandahar, or they're resurgent in Uruzgan or Helmand, and it's just not true," he said.

McKiernan, who took command of the NATO mission here in June, has acknowledged that the country lacks security and governance in many regions but concluded in a recent news conference that "we are not losing Afghanistan."

Elsewhere, the Interior Ministry said Taliban militants kidnapped 17 road construction workers in Kunar province on Sunday. The ministry said the kidnappers were gunmen for a Mullah Nasrullah. Three of the workers had already been released, it said. Kidnappings by militants and criminal groups seeking ransom is a growing problem in Afghanistan.

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Associated Press writers Jason Straziuso and Amir Shah in Kabul, and Noor Khan in Kandahar contributed to this report.

KABUL, Afghanistan — Insurgents exchanged fire with U.S. troops aboard a Black Hawk helicopter in central Afghanistan on Monday before the aircraft was hit and forced to land. The crew was rescu...
KABUL, Afghanistan — Insurgents exchanged fire with U.S. troops aboard a Black Hawk helicopter in central Afghanistan on Monday before the aircraft was hit and forced to land. The crew was rescu...
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- PT6 I'm a Fan of PT6 25 fans permalink

Bush and McCain are working TOGETHER to try to make this a "LAST MINUTE ISSUE" to try to influence the vote!

It will not work THIS TIME so save your "TRICKS" for WALL STREET!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 10/28/2008

I am wondering if backing off the Afghanistan-Pakistan border are would be a good tactic. This to get Osama bin Laden out of his lair and moving around so that he can then be targeted. That guy has to be getting tired of hiding in caves and wants some change, change we can believe in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 10/28/2008
- Tom95134 I'm a Fan of Tom95134 54 fans permalink
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The Bush administration is trying to force an agreement down the throat of the Iraqi government. It reminds me of the line from the Godfather, "Either your signature or your brains will be on that contract."

This has been totally ignored by the MSM...

BAGHDAD — Army Gen. Ray Odierno, the top U.S. military commander in Iraq, informed Iraqi officials last week that if their country doesn't agree to a new agreement governing American forces in Iraq, it would lose $6.3 billion in aid for construction, security forces and economic activity and another $10 billion a year in foreign military sales.

... the U.S. would stop sharing intelligence with the Iraqi government and would cease to provide air traffic control, air defense, SWAT team training or advisers in government ministries, according to the document. The list also says that there'd be no "disposition of U.S.-held Iraqi convicts" without a security agreement.

>>> http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/54849.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 AM on 10/28/2008
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 74 fans permalink

They easily could do without the 10 billion a year of military sales. I always said war was about
money and that sounds like Halliburton to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 10/28/2008
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 45 fans permalink

So when Obama puts 2 more brigades in Afghanistan we won't be spending any money. If you believe that I'll sell you a bridge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 10/28/2008

keep fighting, warriors!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 10/28/2008

SMAGGIE: If you really know your oration concerning Obama to be true, where is the proof???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 10/27/2008
- darthdarcy I'm a Fan of darthdarcy 48 fans permalink
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It's a real shame The United States Air Force doesn't have maps to help it find where Afghanistan is..!

Or Iraq either for that matter..!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 10/27/2008
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And do what? This is ground warfare against insurgents.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 10/27/2008
- Stilts9 I'm a Fan of Stilts9 49 fans permalink
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Still looking for those WMD?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 10/28/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 403 fans permalink
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There's only so much you can do with air power in this type of conflict. You can easily end up swatting flies with sledgehammers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 AM on 10/28/2008
- foxfan I'm a Fan of foxfan 19 fans permalink

The comments here would be fun to read if they didn't rpresent real thoughts from real people. Every time there is an air strike it seems civilians get killed. There's outrage. Now your snippy comments imply that the Air Force can't find Afghanistan. You are the real shame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 10/28/2008
- pros54 I'm a Fan of pros54 6 fans permalink

Nightmares coming back from the Soviet debacle in Afghanistan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 10/27/2008
- KCFreedom I'm a Fan of KCFreedom 18 fans permalink

And we didn't learn from it. The thing we created. Full circle. This time we think we should go to war with anyone who supplies the insurgents. Oh, so who we were?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 10/27/2008
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 45 fans permalink

If I remember right we lost 3000 people on 9/11/01. Don't make these insurgents to be innocent victims and us so bad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 10/28/2008
- Js420 I'm a Fan of Js420 2 fans permalink

NO MORE American deaths, lets get the fu@k out of there!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 10/27/2008
- sandrarita I'm a Fan of sandrarita 9 fans permalink

The idea is to get Osama bin Laden and the Taliban. The Taliban has schools set up where they train young people to hate America and become terrorists. With the Taliban out of the way, more schools can be set up to give Afghani youngsters an education and the hope of a real future, not that of a young walking bomb in the hands of radical Islamists.

Three Cups of Tea by Gregory Mortensen is a great book giving some insight into the people and problems in the mountains of Pakistan and Afghanistan, from the viewpoint of an American mountain climber who got lost on K2, stumbled into a village up there and was saved by the natives. It is not all the people of Afghanistan or Pakistan that are terrorists. But where the Taliban controls, they turn against the native people and kill them too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 10/27/2008
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They don't need schools to teach hate; the innocent dead from Rummy's air strikes did just fine. Those images are burnt forever into a young mind, and fuel an adult's hate for the remainder of their lives.

We'd better do something, because you never know when another batch of mountain people, who just happen to be Saudi (go figure) will get easy passage, support, flight training, NORAD stand down orders ... and you know what happens next.

Excuse me, one of my eyes just rolled so hard it's on the floor ....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 10/28/2008
- AnalyzeIT I'm a Fan of AnalyzeIT 65 fans permalink
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Starting war and initiating the inevitable deaths of thousands of human beings is immoral and wicked.

By taking global law into its own hands, the US - Bush became the source of tyranny and oppression to others, and defiles our founding fathers values.

As luck would have it, no one was killed or hurt today, but how much did that Black Hawk helicopter cost?

War is terrorism.

OBAMA-BIDEN

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 10/27/2008
- JulieSA I'm a Fan of JulieSA 165 fans permalink
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Obama wants to increase the number of troops there in Afghanistan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 10/27/2008
- bob8788 I'm a Fan of bob8788 5 fans permalink

Just to show Obama was right when he said we left our eyes off the ball over there, spending too much time in Iraq rather then spending time in afghanistan

http://www.barackobamacans.blogspot.com/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 10/27/2008
- jsarets I'm a Fan of jsarets 171 fans permalink

Yeah, but it's one thing to be right about what we should have done in the past and another to be right about what we should do right now. Because we took our eyes off the ball, we struck out and our inning at bat is over.

We can't win in Afghanistan by redeploying troops from Iraq. We have to let the Taliban strike out. Let them blow up the wrong target and turn the populace against them. Let them demonstrate that they are petty ideologues with no real ability or interest in bettering people's lives. Like the GOP!

Give the Taliban nobody to fight but themselves, and they will self-destruct.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 10/27/2008
- pros54 I'm a Fan of pros54 6 fans permalink

I concur.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 10/27/2008
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Just a thought. An idealistic thought, but . . . .

What if we could just stabilize the area enough to start delivering clean water, electricity, health care, and food?

Could we win the hearts of the local population?

We need the military to do their part but we also need the the State Dept to theirs as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 10/27/2008

EXACTLY.

afghanistan has to be left in better shape than somalia. there's no alternative. keep fighting, brothers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 10/28/2008
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