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First Posted: 10-27-08 04:58 PM   |   Updated: 01-13-09 04:09 PM

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UPDATE 1/13: The AP reports that Timothy Geithner failed to pay personal taxes and check the immigration status of a housekeeper.

WALL STREET SURGED 500 POINTS FOLLOWING REPORTS THAT TIMOTHY GEITHNER WILL BE NOMINATED AS TREASURY SECRETARY. READ MORE ABOUT THE RISE.

AP reports that Obama picking Geithner could calm the markets.

Read more below about Geithner and Governor Bill Richardson, Obama's likely choice for Commerce Secretary.

HuffPost's Sam Stein reports: Barack Obama will name his Treasury Secretary on Monday, a Democratic source confirms to the Huffington Post. NBC News and other outlets report that Tim Geithner will get the nod over former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, but that Summers will have a senior White House role.

Geithner is currently the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York and once served in the Treasury Department under Summers.

Officials also say that New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson is likely to be tapped as Commerce Secretary.

Part of the reason Obama is making the announcement so soon is the market disarray in recent days. The public roll-out of an economic team could calm those waters.

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Another Democrat, however, told the Huffington Post that there is a growing recognition within the Obama circle that they need to be more assertive in the transition period about their personnel and goals for governance. There is some concern that the economic situation will grow so poor under the remaining months of the Bush administration that Obama will be left with nearly insurmountable economic tasks.

"Tim Geithner, if he becomes the Treasury Secretary, he is a man of terrific abilities, great experience, and is centrally involved in trying to cope with the economic crisis we have on our hands," said Mickey Kantor, Commerce Secretary under President Clinton. "He is balanced, thoughtful and bright... I think that either [Geithner or Larry Summers] would have been a brilliant choice. You could make the case for either one. I've worked with Larry and I have nothing but the greatest respect for his abilities. This isn't frankly, negative towards Larry at all... The idea that Tim Geithner is in the middle of this crisis means he is more prepared than anyone to deal with what is going on right now... We don't have tie for any kind of wasted motion."

Said Robert Shapiro, a former undersecretary of Commerce: "Geithner was always the best choice ... Fiercely smart, more knowledgeable about the crisis than nearly anyone , profoundly experienced with international institutions, and utterly non-self-aggrandizing. Brilliant choice."

More details from NBC:

Geithner has been a key player in the current economic crisis -- helping Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and his team manage the wall street bailout.


Former Treasury Secretary Summers -- also considered for the post -- might still play a major future role in the Obama administration, according to sources. Summers came under fire from women's groups because of controversial comments he made about gender issues while President of Harvard, but sources say the decision to choose Geithner had more to do with Obama's interest in "change" and getting someone new on the team.


NY Times on Summers' possible appointment:

Mr. Summers is likely to be named as an economics adviser as well, two sources familiar with the Obama transition said, with the expectation that eventually he will be named to the Federal Reserve Board, perhaps as successor to Chairman Ben Bernanke.

Complete coverage of Obama's cabinet

Some analysis of the news from Mitchell and Todd:



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The New Republic earlier profiled Geithner:

Indeed, if not for Geithner's periodic assertiveness, the '90s might have looked very different. At Treasury, Geithner often cast the deciding vote between Rubin and Summers, who was Rubin's deputy through much of the Clinton era. Summers was a restless type, prone to intervening aggressively if there was a chance it could succeed. Rubin, on the other hand, deferred decisions as long as possible and erred on the side of caution even then. As Summers once explained to The New York Times, Rubin believed "that there is something worse than Country X going down, which is Country X going down and taking our credibility and $10 billion of our money with it.''


In this mix, Geithner often made action possible by setting Rubin's tortured soul at ease. When, for example, the collapse of the Korean financial system in 1997 triggered a global crisis, Summers recommended an overwhelming response--a U.S.-sponsored bailout on top of an accelerated IMF package worth tens of billions. But the idea gave Rubin agita. It was Geithner who, according to one colleague, nudged Treasury toward a successful middle ground. Summers himself viewed Geithner as such a crucial counterweight that, the following year, he helped make Geithner Treasury's top international official.

The American Prospect published a timely article on Tim Geithner in September, painting a flattering portrait of the New York Federal Reserve Bank President:

A phone booth is not a bad metaphor for Geithner, whose phone rings whenever a big financial firm like Bear Stearns is about to go bust. As president of the most important of the regional Fed banks since November 2003, Geithner has not only had a front-row seat at the most serious financial collapse since the 1930s, he is the key public official who has prevented it from becoming another Great Depression. [...]


Geithner's admirers span the spectrum from Republican financial mogul Pete Peterson to liberal Democrat Barney Frank. One can infer from his broad fan base three possible conclusions: Wall Street is so clubby and politically powerful that permissible policy differences just aren't that great; or maybe Geithner is all things to all people; or perhaps, in a deep crisis, truly talented and effective people can earn broad respect.

UPDATE 1/13: The AP reports that Timothy Geithner failed to pay personal taxes and check the immigration status of a housekeeper. WALL STREET SURGED 500 POINTS FOLLOWING REPORTS THAT TIMOTHY GEITHNER...
UPDATE 1/13: The AP reports that Timothy Geithner failed to pay personal taxes and check the immigration status of a housekeeper. WALL STREET SURGED 500 POINTS FOLLOWING REPORTS THAT TIMOTHY GEITHNER...
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- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 233 fans permalink
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Hey! Why did they scr.ub my post about Paul Wellstone and the video MNMommy posted about him? It was here a minute ago. It's even been scru.bbed from my profile. Yet it was here before, it never went pending, there was nothing bad in it. What a bunch of je.rks. I had some quotes in there from the video, quotes of him... I am livid about this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 AM on 11/22/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 233 fans permalink
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Here is a lovely video posted earlier by MNMommy, it's about the amazing Paul Wellstone:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iesQrJ8ctzQ

It will lift your heart.



Scr.ub THIS, Huffpo !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 11/22/2008
- levibatgirl I'm a Fan of levibatgirl 277 fans permalink
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I can't think about what a loss it is to not have him in there fighting for the people anymore.

He was 1 in a million.

His passion incomparable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 11/22/2008

It's because I had the temerity to use "wellstone" as a verb, meaning what the jackals do to powerful people that intrude on the agendas of the corpotocracy

Or maybe it is because I invoked the names Roldos and Torrijos, who were wellstoned two months apart

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 11/22/2008
- IntExec I'm a Fan of IntExec 3 fans permalink

abby -- I am with you 100%. I am getting tired of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 11/22/2008
- IntExec I'm a Fan of IntExec 3 fans permalink

they just scrubbed me again.... incredible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 11/22/2008

This is hopeless. Go Bucks....destroy Michigan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 11/22/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 324 fans permalink
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I don't have a dog in that hunt, but I h*te all things OSU.

So, GO BLUE!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 11/22/2008
- Pdubya I'm a Fan of Pdubya 44 fans permalink

End the Fed already!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOH7MG4px6k


leaving for the jacksonville event in an hour.....

www.endthefed.us

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 11/22/2008

OT. The press is really reaching for issues this week. They made a big deal of Palin speaking
about Thanksgiving standing in front of turkeys getting slaugh tered. I'm thinking, so? Do people
think turkey is grown on trees and they look like the "Butterballs" in the grocery store.
Sheesh, some call PETA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 11/22/2008
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I think it was a reaction to her poorly staged photo-op which bl--ew up in her face. She will doing anything to stay in the limelight. I looking for a AK "Moose Christmas" next...........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 11/22/2008

I dont disagree that she want's to stay relevant (which she is not) but it is the media who allow it. The election is over and they seem desperate at times to create stories.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 11/22/2008
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You are 100% correct in placing the blame on the media. Let's not forget that she was more of a media creation from the beginning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 11/22/2008
- kgb999 I'm a Fan of kgb999 19 fans permalink

Politics is all about attention to detail. That she would juxtapose her own image with bloody carnage - on a trip supposedly to "pardon" a turkey - simply shows utter lack of political skills. She is totally clueless ... and that's great footage for when she tries to run again.

When have you seen any other National candidate place themselves together with such imagery? I guess it's just the maverick in her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 11/22/2008

OK. It would seem to me this is a bit less bothersome than the footage of her kil ling wolves from a helicopter. It seems to me this (the turkey interveiw)would come across as petty if used against her. But thats just me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:31 AM on 11/22/2008
- kgb999 I'm a Fan of kgb999 19 fans permalink

There isn't any footage of her hunting wolves from helicopters that I'm aware of. The campaign ad wasn't her ... it was just her policy being put in to practice.

Yes, it's petty - but what in politics isn't?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 11/22/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

So. As it turns out, Obama's not a Socialist. Or, "socialistic" as Governor Palin says, whatever that means.

Does this discredit Rush Limbaugh? Nah. Not a bit! It means he WAS RIGHT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 11/22/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 359 fans permalink
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Rush Limbaugh is never "right" except he is always "Right".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 11/22/2008

Twitting the ignorant smug is a noble pastime

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 11/22/2008
- levibatgirl I'm a Fan of levibatgirl 277 fans permalink
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Curtain call?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 11/22/2008
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One of many, page 666 from Drama 101............:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 11/22/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 233 fans permalink
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I donb't know much about Geithner. But I do know that Obama does not have a special planet somewhere populated with people that no one has ever heard of before and who have never served before, etc., all to satisfy all you people who say he isn't bringing in new people, isn't bringing in change. He will pick what he takes to be the best from what is available, he can do no more.

I don't like every person he's chosen this far, but this idea of expecting him to get brand new people out of thin air, is silly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 11/22/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 233 fans permalink
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donb't=don't
and
chosen this far=chosen thus far.

Need coffee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 11/22/2008
- kgb999 I'm a Fan of kgb999 19 fans permalink

Certainly in this great nation, there must be SOMEONE who is qualified but isn't already bought and sold by the current political process. Couldn't Obama have found just ONE? You are saying that everyone on the planet with the qualifications to serve is already ensconced as a life-long politico? That's bull.

The capacity to bring change is limited by his team's willingness to play politics differently. This last week of BS didn't seem too different to me. He's already creating fiefdoms of dueling leak mongers. Obama can't bring real change if he doesn't change the guard - and he chose not to.

Obama will do fine - as defined by today's politics; but he promised a NEW type of politics. It just shows that his hype was mostly that: pure hype. By "change" it seems he meant to return DLC dominance. Fine if you are Clintonian, but if you are one of many independents that democrats relied on to win the election ... not so impressive. We didn't become democratic loyalists, we gave the democrats a chance. Hillary Clinton and the guy who facilitated the Rich pardon are your idea of bipartisan? That looks like Bush-style bipartisanship to me (as does Emmanuel).

The proof is in the pudding. If the democrats screw this up, the anger focused on Bush will look like a love-fest. Either way, this seems to be the same old politics with a little more color.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 11/22/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 359 fans permalink
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Exactly, in the battle between the DLC and the Progressives who brought Obama to victory, who is getting left behind?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 11/22/2008

You bear a striking resemblance to bush. "If you're not with us, you're against us!" Independents, by the way, are in the minority and I speak as one of them. You speak as if the independents condescended to vote for a Democrat. We intellectuals chose the smart man over the fool. The fools would have everyone believe that Obama will have failed if the world isn't bathed in milk and honey after the first 100 days. Wise people see that the repubs are already throwing stumbling blocks in front of Obama in the way of backdoor policies contrived in midnight sessions that gut laws and protections that have been in place, sometimes for decades.
If the fools outnumber the wise in such numbers that there is no way make them get the picture, then there will be a civil war with the repubs and fools against the wise and Democrats. I have just had someone tell me they gave Obama 6 months to make good on his promises. This person got their head handed to them on a plate (figure of speech!) since it took EIGHT YEARS to render the nation in the condition it is in now, with years of plotting for this end going before.
I am not a Washington insider. I am a high school dropout. Would you like me to be appointed to a Cabinet level position in Obama's administration? Would that be change enough? How many people do you think would approve?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:08 PM on 11/22/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 359 fans permalink
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The bigger problem is the split in the party between the progressives and the old-school DLCers. Dean represented the progressive wing, and look how he is being treated. If not for Dean's campaign, and his 50-state strategy, this victory would not have been possible. As much as people hated Bush this time, they hated him equally in 2004 and the GOP in 2006. Yet the election was close enough to steal in 2004 and the Democrats lost 20-30 seats in 2006. It was a tsunami this time and overwhelming the theft of, by raw exit poll analysis, about six million votes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 11/22/2008

I enjoy making you uncomfortable, so much so that practically every one of my posts gets disappeared

It is interesting to witness which are the most taboo subjects: which never make it at all and which are permitted a brief life before being disappeared

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 11/22/2008

Don't flatter yourself sport. Your not making anybody uncomfortable.
Get over yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 11/22/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

I think his/her posts should stay up.

Kool-aid, The Chosen One, The Annointed One, The Federal Reserve.

Did I miss anything? Was "sheeple" in there? I love "sheeple".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 11/22/2008

Agreed, I dont think posts should be scrubbed if they remotely on topic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 AM on 11/22/2008
- kgb999 I'm a Fan of kgb999 19 fans permalink

This is HuffPo we're talking about. Posts get scrubbed for all sorts of reasons ... many unfathomable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 11/22/2008

The one that really makes them crap their pants is exposing the September criminals -- and their accessories in the cover-up

#1 taboo subject

what does that tell you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 11/22/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 359 fans permalink
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That issue gets scrubbed everywhere, it seems. There is a "special forum" at the DU that its habitues refer to as "the dungeon".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 11/22/2008

quit calling me sport, who are you trying to be, Jay Gatsby? The proof that I hit nerves is that almost all my posts get disappeared. Most of them, despite conforming strictly to HuffPost guidelines, never appear at all, old bean

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 11/22/2008

Whatever you say........"sport"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 11/22/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 233 fans permalink
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Again, you said were leaving.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 11/22/2008

no byby4ever

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 11/22/2008
- Js420 I'm a Fan of Js420 2 fans permalink

Hey "sport" leave & dont come back..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 11/22/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 233 fans permalink
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What are you still doing here? 30 minutes ago, in a post full of insults, you said you were leaving.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 11/22/2008
- levibatgirl I'm a Fan of levibatgirl 277 fans permalink
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'gets disappeared'

Alrighty then.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 11/22/2008

whatever that means

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 11/22/2008
- kgb999 I'm a Fan of kgb999 19 fans permalink

You've never had your stuff wiped? I sure have!

He's right ... it is quite interesting to watch how they sometimes control the narrative around here. It's surprising some of the stuff that gets canned.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 11/22/2008

Reagen, Clinton, McCain, Gramm, Greenspan, Frank, Bush, Paulson, these are some of the folks who have gotten us into the current economic mess. The public is also responsible for overextending themselves on credit to live beyond their means.
There is no one peson responsible nor is there one specific thing responsible for the mess, it is a
mix of many things that finally came to a head. Yes some are clearly more responsible than others.
Regarding the mortgage / credit fiasco my vote is for Phil Gramm pushing to overturn the Glass / Steagell act of 1933.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 11/22/2008

the common connection between all these players is that they were in the CFR, Trilateral Commission, and/or Bilderberg. They were groomed and tested for their loyalty to the elite before they were given their positions.

this has nothing to do with R or D party monikers. This is about class warfare of the super elite versus the middle and lower classes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 11/22/2008

Maybe

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 11/22/2008
- kgb999 I'm a Fan of kgb999 19 fans permalink

Exactly. And who is Obama appointing? Folks who were groomed and tested for their loyality to the elite ... as was Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 11/22/2008
- Rule Of Law I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law 146 fans permalink

Shhhhh. Watch out for the thought police....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 11/22/2008
- Rule Of Law I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law 146 fans permalink

Amazing your post made it up at all Rebel. Just don't talk about ending the FED or your luck might run out. Remember in Summer (?) when Hillary and Obama both went to Virginia together and attended the Bilderberg confab there. What do you think was going on? Now Kissinger is cheerleading Hillary for SOS? That old war criminal would be the last person to endorse a true Progressive as he was one of the founders of the Trilats along with Rockefeller. No this is starting to smell pretty bad, even from here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 11/22/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 359 fans permalink
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Speaking of "taboo" subjects, I continue to ask what Soros' role is in everything, given his backing of Move-On and of both Hillary and Obama, but this just gets the "tin foil hat" treatment. Why, I don't know. Soros' Open Society has its own webpage and it is no secret that he made it his number one mission in life to remove Bush and re-install the Democrats, nor is his history in currency manipulation a secret, either. I find these facts to be absolutely germane to the discussion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 11/22/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

Conservatives are going to have to tie themselves up in knots to refute this, and that's always fun.

Last week, they were unanimously announcing Obama was responsible for the market's decline.

This week, they have to unanimously deny that he's responsible for the market rally.

Neither is true, but they all SAID it, so they're stuck with it :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 11/22/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 233 fans permalink
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Well put, Kay.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 11/22/2008
- BigBagel I'm a Fan of BigBagel 28 fans permalink
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I heard Sean Hannity say this. Hannity and no one else. Hannity is a conservative like the Chinese are communists, in name only.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 11/22/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

"Markets are predictive and forward-looking". I think that was the dogma du jour on the Right.

Last week, anyway. Who knows what kind of crazy rationale they'll come up with next week?

What I like about the Right is the CONSISTENCY :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 11/22/2008
- abby4ever I'm a Fan of abby4ever 233 fans permalink
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Yes. They consistently li.e. Or else consistently imagine things.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 11/22/2008
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Right. The right-wing will change the message to suit them, no matter the contradictions, but the target will always remain the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 11/22/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

Bush expanded access to homeownership. The Ownership Society.

Until it tanked. Then it was Barney Frank, and socialism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 11/22/2008
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CNBC is the worst propaganda on Cable especially during the day. They have guests on all day bashing Obama...Saying things like where is Obama, he is missing in action....omg i wanted to throw my shoe through my Plasma Screen. These guys have are the worst greedy partisans on the planet...all they care about is the few percentage points being raised on their millionaire income.

They should be asking is "where is bush" Eating dinner with Chinese Prez in Peru

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 11/22/2008
- anticon I'm a Fan of anticon 8 fans permalink

They are not bashing now.

They are delighted with Geithner!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 11/22/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

I like him, too. Because he's evidence-based. That means he relies on facts to make decisions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 AM on 11/22/2008

How weird is that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 11/22/2008
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 359 fans permalink
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Which should tell you something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 11/22/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

Obama will ignore them. We all know what they would have said had he jumped in and marginalized the MIA President, who seems to have decided to hide in the White House for 2 months, in a petulant snit.

"Presumptious!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 11/22/2008
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"petulant snit." Perfect.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 11/22/2008
- BigBagel I'm a Fan of BigBagel 28 fans permalink
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I watch CNBC and have not seen any Obama bashing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 11/22/2008
- kay I'm a Fan of kay 172 fans permalink

The day after he won the election they dragged out some economist I've never heard of who announced, conclusively and without a single piece of evidence, that Obama would raise taxes on those making 150k a year.

David Gergen was on. He asked for a single statement from Obama that would buttress that claim.

Nope. He had nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 11/22/2008
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 374 fans permalink
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It really makes one wonder who pays for the multi-million, multi-year contracts that inSannity, D!ldo and Limpy pull in doesn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 11/22/2008

It makes me wonder how people can be so ign orant as to beleive the li es & ha te these people spew.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 11/22/2008
- MNmommy I'm a Fan of MNmommy 374 fans permalink
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Well there's that too, also.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 11/22/2008
- gotalife I'm a Fan of gotalife 22 fans permalink

"Axelrod On Obama Transition Leaks: 'No One Is Frustrated'"

Media wrong again.

The change is the brightest, most competent, brilliant people are taking over the White House. From the worst ever to greatness.

Confidence is building even on Wall Street.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 11/22/2008

so utterly wrong.

there is no real change, only the perception of it.

this chump is a product of the elite think tanks and elite proving grounds. he is CFR, he is a Bilderberg, is a made member of the criminal elite class.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 11/22/2008
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Is he also a lizard person?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 11/22/2008

quit the strawman tactic, it's cowardly

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 11/22/2008
- sunzen I'm a Fan of sunzen 4 fans permalink
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These are real groups that Rebel Patriot has mentioned...open your eyes... Conspiracies are real...it is human nature. As soon as rats learned how to communicate we have been conspiring for our piece of the cheese...some are hungrier than others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 11/22/2008

Save your comments for after a year or two. You just sound stu pid making it before obama is in office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 11/22/2008

oh really? past behavior isn't an indicator of the future?

this tool of the elite Geithner is a criminal. He is a fixer and a operator for the super elite. His past associations indicate it. He has been intimately involved in the CFR, the highest levels of the hyper-elite at Bilderberg this year. He has written about a need for a global Federal Reserve.

this man is a criminal, he advocates criminal policies, he implements criminal policies, he hangs around with criminals -

and you want to give him the benefit of the doubt?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 11/22/2008
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I'm with you, RebelPatriot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 11/22/2008
- kgb999 I'm a Fan of kgb999 19 fans permalink

Good advice. Like after it's far too late. Bush loves people like you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 11/22/2008
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Why are all the extremists coming out of the woodwork lately?
It makes no sense. For months almost nothing and now they're like cockroaches.

New tro//s/socks posing as if from the extreme left?
rollingdivision was here quoting Camu earlier.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 11/22/2008
- kgb999 I'm a Fan of kgb999 19 fans permalink

Maybe it's the folks who joined you to vote for Obama but expected him to do what he said: bring a new style of government to Washington. Instead, it's the same old people that we kicked the hell out 8 years ago.

Obama's selections are not really a change from anything. They are hyper-partisans and fully ensconced in the current political ruling class. If we wanted this crap we'd have elected Hillary directly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 11/22/2008
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Yes, that IS who it is, myself included.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 11/22/2008
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test 123

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 11/22/2008
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Abby - did you catch the post I made to you yesterday on the Franken thread about Wellstone?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 11/22/2008
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No. How far into your profile is it? Or can you just do it over?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 11/22/2008
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Can you do YouTube? Here's a link about Wellstone - I posited that you'd have loved him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iesQrJ8ctzQ

I also posted about the circumstances surrounding the plane cr@sh that he and his wife d!ed in and the Republican exploitation of the memorial service and how some grief stricken folks behaved - I can grab that post as well if you'd like.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 11/22/2008
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Thanks, yes, grab the post while I watch the YouTube thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 11/22/2008
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The seat was held by our beloved, sometimes outrageous, progressive Senator Paul Wellstone. He and his wife Sheila d i e d in a small plane c r a s h (on their way to a funeral) weeks before the 2002 election.

At his memorial, things got a little out of hand and his supporters went a bit over the top, some were actually pretty rude to distinguished Republicans in attendance as well.

Our Gov. J e s s e V e n t u r a made s t u p i d remarks about it, and good ole Rush and others exploited it to stir anger in Republicans.

Former Senator, Ambassador and VP Walter Mondale stepped in at the last minute and ran in Wellstone's place - but it wasn't enough.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 11/22/2008
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Actually, it WAS enough. Mondale was leading by six points. The stupid excuse that it had to do with the memorial never made any sense. Why would anyone change their vote over that? Especially since it had NOTHING to do with Mondale.

It reminds me of the specious excuse the media gave about Hatch's "loss" to Pawlenty--that ridiculous story about how he made a comment to a media source calling them a "right-wing hack".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 11/22/2008
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Mondale was six points in the lead. The memorial story was "cover" for the theft...a lot of people are looking at how Franken is now beating Coleman and wondering about 2002, as they are also revisiting the Chambliss-Cleland race of 2002--have you heard about the Diebold whistleblower Chris Hood, who says it was fixed?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 11/22/2008
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Of other interest, Wellstone's Senate speech pre-Iraqi Authorization vote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KkzajyVZUg&feature=related

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 11/22/2008
- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

I for one am glad that the market didnt go down yes its not going to last because the underlying reason is not being addressed but what it does is give it some stability so that Obama isnt inheriting a stock market that is half its value because working from something that is half its value is a lot more difficult than working from the point of say loss of 20 to 30%. We didnt spend any money and it jumped 500 points whats not to celebrate about that. Hopefully when the full anounce ment come monday it will jumped 1000 points and Obama would have a better place to work from come January 20

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 11/22/2008
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The problems are greater then one cabinet appointment.These problems brought about by an over expansion of debt and the resulting toxic debt infecting the world will take years to overcome.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 11/22/2008
- kgb999 I'm a Fan of kgb999 19 fans permalink

But hey ... at least the folks who brought it to you are staying on in Obama's administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 11/22/2008
- anticon I'm a Fan of anticon 8 fans permalink

Buy Jan.20 next week will be old news.

I imagine the economic headlines then will be the horrible holiday sales.

America is in for some tough months ,maybe years.

Not happy talk but it is reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 11/22/2008
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"AP reports that Obama picking Geithner COULD calm the markets."

Wow!! What a bold, definitive, out-on-a-limb, predictive statement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 11/22/2008

Geithner represents an entrenched central banking system that has killed the free market, built up a power monopoly over the money and credit system, consistently followed an intrinsically detrimental path of ceaseless borrowing and presided over the fundamentally damaging process of printing of money out of thin air, leading to the devaluation of the US dollar which now has a global reputation on a par with if not worse than that of George W. Bush.

Geithner represents a critically bloated bastard entity of government and private wealth that has manipulated interest rates and falsely inflated bubbles that have fostered an economy of moral hazard and driven the world straight into a financial black hole.

In what way does this man offer any possibility of "change"?

He now advocates the implementation of measures of predatory globalism to solve the very crisis those policies have created. And he will have the tools to do it after the recent bailout bill passed granting the Treasury virtual dictatorial powers over economic policy.

Geithner is likely to get the nod as Treasury Secretary because he best fits the appearance of change, even though he does not represent any significant change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 11/22/2008

"Geithner represents an entrenched central banking system that has killed the free market"

Well said.

He also worked for Kissinger Associates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 11/22/2008
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"Geithner is likely to get the nod as Treasury Secretary because he best fits the appearance of change, even though he does not represent any significant change."

This also is, very well said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 11/22/2008
- kgb999 I'm a Fan of kgb999 19 fans permalink

Democratic change is a state of mind ... not of government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 11/22/2008
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