What We Could Have Spent The Iraq War Funding On

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DUNCAN MANSFIELD | October 27, 2008 03:06 PM EST | AP

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KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — When the Sunday morning political pundits began talking last year about the tab for the war in Iraq hitting $1 trillion, Rob Simpson sprang from his sofa in indignation.

"Why aren't people outraged about this? Why aren't we hearing about it?" Simpson said. And then it came to him: "Nobody knows what a trillion dollars is."

The amount _ $1,000,000,000,000 _ was just too big to comprehend.

So Simpson, 51, decided to embark "on an unusual but intriguing research project" to put the dollars and cents of the war into perspective. He hired some assistants and spent 12 months immersed in economic data and crunching numbers.

The result: a slim but heavily annotated paperback released, "What We Could Have Done With the Money: 50 Ways to Spend the Trillion Dollars We've Spent on Iraq."

Simpson is no geopolitical, macro-economic, inside-the-Beltway expert. He's an armchair analyst and creative director for an advertising agency, a former radio announcer and music critic in Ontario and a one-time voiceover actor.

His alternative spending choices reflect his curiosity and wit.

He calculates $1 trillion could pave the entire U.S. interstate highway system with gold _ 23.5-karat gold leaf. It could buy every person on the planet an iPod. It could give every high school student in the United States a free college education. It could pay off every American's credit card. It could buy a Buick for every senior citizen still driving in the United States.

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"As I started exploring, I was really taken aback by some of the things that can be done, both the absurd and the practical," Simpson said.

America could the double the 663,000 cops on the beat for 32 years. It could buy 16.6 million Habitat for Humanity houses, enough for 43 million Americans.

Now imagine investing that $1 trillion in the stock market _ perhaps a riskier proposition today than when Simpson finished the book _ to make it grow and last longer. He used an accepted long-term return on investment of 9 percent annually, with compounding interest.

The investment approach could pay for 1.9 million additional teachers for America's classrooms, retrain 4 million workers a year or lay a foundation for paying Social Security benefits in 65 years to every child born in the United States, beginning today.

It's too recent to make Simpson's list, but that $1 trillion could also have paid for the Bush administration's financial bailout plan, with $300 billion to spare. It might not be enough, however, to pay for the war in Iraq. Nobel Laureate Joseph Stiglitz has recently upped his estimate of the war's cost to $3 trillion.

Simpson created a Web site companion to his book that lets you go virtual shopping with a $1 trillion credit card. Choices range from buying sports franchises to theme parks, from helping disabled veterans to polar bears.

Click on Air Force One, the president's $325 million airplane. The program asks: "Quantity?"

"At one point we couldn't find anybody who actually stuck with it long enough to spend $1 trillion," Simpson said. "It will wear you out."

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KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — When the Sunday morning political pundits began talking last year about the tab for the war in Iraq hitting $1 trillion, Rob Simpson sprang from his sofa in indignation. "Why...
KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — When the Sunday morning political pundits began talking last year about the tab for the war in Iraq hitting $1 trillion, Rob Simpson sprang from his sofa in indignation. "Why...
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- Blue in NH I'm a Fan of Blue in NH 12 fans permalink
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It's even worse than you think. Total world defense spending is nearly $1.5 trillion. Of that the US accounts for more than half each and every years. And that DOES NOT INCLUDE wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Arms are just about the only thing the US still makes. But, three of the top 10 US defense contractors are FOREIGN OWNED. China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea TOGETHER spend less that 10% of the world total, or one fifth of US spending. THIS IS CRAZY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 10/28/2008
- mergina I'm a Fan of mergina 96 fans permalink
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What has the war bought for Americans? Overflowing coffers for Bush and Cheney and their fellow cronies ONLY? THEIR War for Greed Fueled PROFITS, Their MURDERS for GREED.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 10/28/2008
- levi501 I'm a Fan of levi501 26 fans permalink
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Wow, those are strong words to describe Bush and Cheney.

Wouldn't it be fair to say that Clinton is also liable since they pushed the military to cancel most long-term logistics which was subsequently replaced by contractors? Also, didn't Congress approve funding military actions in Iraq starting in 1991 through today?

Levi

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 AM on 10/28/2008
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The buck stops with Bush and Cheney, unless you would like to take some of the blame for putting them into office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 10/28/2008

Yes...you are right ...Clinton made a prudent decision which Haliburton with Cheney as it's CEO started rubbing their hands together in a greedy manner.

Once Cheney got into power.....military contracts increased! Oh yeah, war, is even a better money maker for Haliburton.

You can't blame the Clintons....their actions were naively for the good of the country, sadly the greedy latched on to them and abused the freedom. We will have more regulations now for only one reason....to protect Americans from greedy creeps like Cheney. The wolf got into the henhouse!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 10/28/2008
- levi501 I'm a Fan of levi501 26 fans permalink
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Clinton made a decision that in effect Haliburton and other for profit companies responded to. Clinton took the risk from the government and private organizations assumed that risk. Who was going to fill that military requirement>

Levi

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 10/28/2008
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

But he overlooked one very important point.

To spend money on the common man is socialism.

To spend money on big corporations strengthen America.

Or at least so we've been told.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 10/28/2008
- levi501 I'm a Fan of levi501 26 fans permalink
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Big corporations do strengthen America: Ford, IBM, Walmart, and Google are symbols of strength. How would you define spending money on the common man if not socialism? Also, do you have proof that decisions to go to war were to spend money on big corporations?

Levi

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 AM on 10/28/2008
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Keep posting, we all need more laughs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 10/28/2008
- Blue in NH I'm a Fan of Blue in NH 12 fans permalink
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Ford: nearly bankrupt
IBM: falling behind
Walmart: China's biggest customer
Google: nothing produced

I would suggest that US corporations are in deep trouble because of GOP policies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 10/28/2008
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I have one word for you "Haliburton".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 10/28/2008

I hope you do KNOW that Big Coporations' customers are billions of regular Americans?! Who end up buying CAR from Ford, PC/Programs from IBM, household items from Wal-Mart and millions of small business buying ads from Google?! WIthout the strenght of each and every single citizens - big corporations can't survive! Except those who deal in fire-arms and military products contracts..........................

We don't have proof, but we have common-sense

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 10/28/2008
- Dystopic I'm a Fan of Dystopic 20 fans permalink
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Big corporations do not strengthen america. That is a myth.

Small businesses (under 50 employees) are the strength and backbone of this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 10/28/2008

Everyone in Alaska could go on a $150,000 shopping spree every year for the next 100 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 AM on 10/28/2008
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I'd LOVE to have just that amount to pay off my car and my husband's, put a down payment on a house, pay off the rest of our debt and STILL have money left over to give to charity and put in our savings account.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 10/28/2008
- levi501 I'm a Fan of levi501 26 fans permalink
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Simpson's points are flawed from both the policy and economic perspective.

First, the government's responsibility is to defend our country (right or wrong war aside) not fund social programs. Our constitution doesn't stipulate that government must fund college, build homes, or even repave our roads with gold.

Next, it's naive to think that all $1 trillion has disappeared from the economy. That figure includes solider pay and benefits; U.S. defense contractors; and economic revival of Iraq. Couldn't we argue that recipients of this money will fund their kids college and build their own homes?

Levi

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 AM on 10/28/2008
- daedelus I'm a Fan of daedelus 36 fans permalink
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Something tells me that education isn't a priority for war profiteers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 AM on 10/28/2008
- levi501 I'm a Fan of levi501 26 fans permalink
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I think you're mistaken. Most men and women either in the military or contractor are just like you. In fact, my sister works in Afghanistan and she's earning her graduate degree at Georgetown.

Are you implying that people working in government or government contractors are uneducated?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 AM on 10/28/2008
- StillAmused I'm a Fan of StillAmused 271 fans permalink

Be sure to stop back and blow your little horn when Iraq's economy is "revived".

... we'll accept the formal announcement from your Great-great-great-grandchild, delivered from atop your headstone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 10/28/2008

I think you are missing the point.
War is not as productive as Peace; War is negative and destructive.
Our Constitution was shredded in order to get us into this current war.
Do you actually believe that our Founding Fathers would have condoned this war in Iraq?
You probably think that Saddam had something to do with 9/11.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 10/28/2008
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

There was no national security interest at stake in Iraq that required the USA to launch a war of choice against Iraq.

Attacking Iraq to stop "Islamofascism" makes about as much sense as if the Founding Fathers had attacked Spain to secure our independence in 1776,.

So any money spent on Iraq was money flushed down the proverbial rathole.

More importantly of course is the squandering of a much more precious resource - our precious servicemen.

And if you've noticed the US Govt now is apparently advocating negotiating with the Taliban because we haven't defeated them in Afghanistan. That means of course that there now is a question about why we spent our treasure - both human and financial - spent in Afghanistan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 10/28/2008

You just missed the point of this article.
The point is that 1 trillion dollars is so much people can't comprehend it. If it is brought back to items people can grasp, there will be a lot of angry people out there with the spending that is going on with this war.
He came up with at least 50 different ways to spend that money in a way that it would benefit people in the US and other countries.It does not say that it has to be done. It can be done: that is the big difference.
And if your definition of defending a country is only military, that is pretty narrow minded. You can also state that the goverment's responsability is to defend the country against poor education, poverty, homeless people etc. That can also be seen as an attack on the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 10/28/2008
- levi501 I'm a Fan of levi501 26 fans permalink
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You're right, the point of the article is that $1 trillion is a lot of money. However, wouldn't $1 trillion spent on poverty and homeless also be a lot of money?

I don't understand your point about social programs defending the U.S. How does tax dollars spent on helping the homeless keep our country safe?

Levi

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 10/28/2008
- Horst I'm a Fan of Horst 24 fans permalink

Apparently only 17% of adult Americans can find Iraq on a map....no surprise this country is going down the tubes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 AM on 10/28/2008
- levi501 I'm a Fan of levi501 26 fans permalink
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I don't understand your point. How does my neighbors understanding of geography relate to foreign countries prosperity? Are you saying that a country must be first found on a map by an American before it can have economic stability?

Levi

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 10/28/2008

levi
you are seriously lacking grey matter

by "this country" he meant the USA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:01 AM on 10/28/2008
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All you have to do is look at the president we've had for the past 8 years to understand why knowledge of geography is important.
I really wish you would put YOUR intelligence to better use.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 10/28/2008
- levi501 I'm a Fan of levi501 26 fans permalink
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Horst,

Please excuse my first post. You're right, our education in America is lacking and we should put more emphasis on sciences like geography.

Levi

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 AM on 10/28/2008
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

Yes but without a map they can tell the real America from the unreal one. You know the pro American parts from the anti-American ones.

And some of them can see foreign countries from their front porches.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 AM on 10/28/2008

this guy is just now figuring this out? we are outraged! there's nothing we can do about it except elect obama and hope he can turn the ship right again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 AM on 10/28/2008
- Gasparilla I'm a Fan of Gasparilla 33 fans permalink

As a couple others have noted, we are deeply in debt anyway. Yes, this was a total waste of money, but let's not forget we are 10 trillion in debt. We need to control spending.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 AM on 10/28/2008
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

And recall that when the fiscally conservative Republican Party took over from those pesky Democrats our national debt was less than $5 trillion.

It also took about 90 cents to buy a Euro. Today you'll pay about $1.30.

The unemployment rate was 3.7% then. Last time I looked it was 6.1% (I don't look often now, it's too depressing).

And I seem to recall the fundamentals of our economy were in better shape.

That's why I'm voting Republican this year, lest we return to the dark and dismal days of President Bubba's time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 AM on 10/28/2008
- Dystopic I'm a Fan of Dystopic 20 fans permalink
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and the democrats left Bush with a $5T surplus, and he reversed that into $6T in additional debt - an $11T swing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 10/28/2008
- MajorKong I'm a Fan of MajorKong 408 fans permalink
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You mean the Iraq war that was only going to cost $50 billion and was going to pay for itself through oil revenues? That Iraq war?

Sometimes it's worth pointing out just how wrong these people have been.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 AM on 10/28/2008
- Rog49Thomas I'm a Fan of Rog49Thomas 192 fans permalink

Yes, but for $1 trillion we've had countless historic victories.

As I've said before, we've had more decisive and final victories in Iraq than the Wehrmacht claimed on the Ostfront in 1945.

There have also been moral victories we can be highly proud of.
We removed a evil dictator whose secret police engaged in extra judicial executions and torture. And replaced him with a different government that pretty much does the same thing.

There are many more imagined accomplishments in that country - to many to recount here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 10/28/2008

Those dang "tax and spend liberals"!

Oh, wait, this was so-called conservatives that got us into this war on phony stories of WMDs, not liberals. Yet we're told that liberals will spend too much if we elect them. Yeah, just like last time when the liberals actually balanced the Federal budget!

Let's hear again about what a great American Gen. Powell is! The man should be in prison for the rest of his life, along with all of his Republican buddies for lying to the American people for the purpose of throwing us into this war. Traitors, all of them!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:51 AM on 10/28/2008
- Blue in NH I'm a Fan of Blue in NH 12 fans permalink
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You might recall that General Powell was forced out of the Bush Administration because he came to question the war in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 10/28/2008
- Eres I'm a Fan of Eres 40 fans permalink
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"Why aren't people outraged about this? Why aren't we hearing about it?" Simpson said. And then it came to him: "Nobody knows what a trillion dollars is."

I guess I was the only citizen who considered the costs of this illegal occupation for oil 6 years ago?
What bullocks.

Anyone with even marginal consciousness caught on to the big heist long, long ago.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 AM on 10/28/2008
- ZellaBee I'm a Fan of ZellaBee 14 fans permalink

We have spent sooooo much more than 1TR on this war, before, during and what will come after. They only give us the numbers they want us to hear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 10/28/2008

i think you need 100,000 millionaires in the country to cough up 10 million each

cindy mccain is one of those .i wonder will john ask her to "put country first"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 10/28/2008
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Sounds like a plan. Easy come, easy go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 AM on 10/28/2008

I wrote about this sometime back on DailyKos. I guess I should have finished my train of thought, or at least expanded on it. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/7/22/172030/695/1021/555296

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 AM on 10/28/2008
- JimGroom I'm a Fan of JimGroom 8 fans permalink

It is certainly true that a trillion dollars could have provided health care, college and etc to very many Americans. I agree, however it is only fair to point out that the trillion dollars was borrowed from China. The spending was out of hand and the war was the wrong thing to do, but the fact is this country is broke. I sincerely hope that Obama is able to pull off some of his futuristic plans, but all I see is a endless sea of red ink. I fear for the future of our country and the next generation. I'm retired and in essense my time has passed. My wife and I managed to raise a child, educate her and help her and her husband buy a business and a home. Our grandson (7 yrs old) is now our main concern and what the future holds for him. If we are lucky he will make it to adulthood without the incumbrance of a GOP controlled White House or Congress. We can hope can't we?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:31 AM on 10/28/2008
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