Fox's Shepard Smith Forced To Offer Disclaimer After Joe The Plumber Interview

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First Posted: 10-28-08 05:51 PM   |   Updated: 11-28-08 05:12 AM

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So, Joe The Plumber was out on the trail with John McCain today, apparently giving the thumbs up to someone in the crowd who felt that an Obama Presidency would bring about the end of Israel. From Raw Story:

The Ohio plumber, who has no license and is actually named Samuel Wurzelbacher, spoke at a McCain campaign event in Columbus Monday. A McCain supporter asked if "a vote for Obama is a vote for the death of Israel." JTP hardly batted an eye.


"I'll go ahead and agree with you on that," Wurzelbacher said.

It's all a part of Joe the Plumber's "Maybe I'm A Foreign Policy Expert, But Anyway, You Should Go Out And Get Your Own Opinions On Things Instead Of Listening To Mine, Even Though I'm Going To Keep Opining If You Give Me Half A Chance, And Anyway, I Don't Even Really Know What John McCain's Position Is On Anything Anyway, And Probably I Should Be Snaking A Sink Trap Or Something, Instead Of Dragging Myself All Over The Country Making Statements Which I Then Sort Of Disavow A Few Minutes Later Anyway, Who Knows?" Tour of 2008!

Honestly, it's like the 24 Hour News has finally reached the 25th Hour or something.

Anyway, five minutes with Joe The Plumber had Shepard Smith so frustrated that the Fox anchor felt compelled to issue a disclaimer, immediately following the segment, pushing back on any notion that Obama would mean the "death of Israel," saying: "I just want to make this 100 percent perfectly clear -- Barack Obama has said repeatedly and demonstrated repeatedly that Israel will always be a friend of the United States, no matter what happens once he becomes President of the United States. His words." Smith later added, "The rest of it -- man...some things -- it just gets frightening sometimes. We'll be right back." I haven't seen Shep this broken up about the state of the world since Katrina.

Meanwhile, let's remember that after a year of trying to figure out what their campaign is about, the McCain camp has basically pinned all their hopes to the avatar of Joe The Plumber, a random dude who says, "I know just enough about foreign policy to probably be dangerous...I have no idea where John McCain's position is...I honestly want people to go out and find their own reasons. I tell people not to listen to everyone else's opinion. I'm not going to have them start listening to mine." His words. Such as they are.

[WATCH.]

SMITH: Do you think John McCain agrees with you?
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PLUMBER: No, that is just my personal opinion that I've come up with by looking into different facts and what I think. That is what my message has been about. I haven't been telling people to go out and vote. Listen, you don't want my opinion on foreign policy. I know just enough about foreign policy to probably be dangerous.

SMITH: That is what I was wondering. I wonder if you think it is dangerous at all for people to say that a vote for Barack Obama is the same as a vote for Israel, if you think that is dangerous for people to start believing. What happens if the polls are right and he becomes President of the United States and people start thinking that this means the death of Israel. Are you worried about what people might do if they actually believe something like that?

PLUMBER: That goes back to what I just got done saying. Some people believe it wholeheartedly. This gentleman I spoke to is Middle America. Therefore...it is very important to him -- important to me, but especially important to this gentleman. He is Middle America and he was able to get on there and make his point, and I agreed with him. I have no idea where John McCain's position is on that. John McCain is his own person, just like I am.

SMITH: Do you think a lot of that has to do with some hateful things that spread all over the internet? After all, Barack Obama has said repeatedly time after time that there is nothing more important that the United States friendship with Israel-- and the United States will back up Israel every moment of every day if and when he becomes President of the United States. He could not have been clearer about it in his positions in speeches, and I just wonder what it is that makes you think he is lying about that.

PLUMBER: [illegible] Actions...I have heard words. I hear words from politicians all the time, but actions [crosstalk] the action that I see is offering to meet with certain enemies of the United States on no uncertain terms --

SMITH: Meeting with Ahmadinejad? That is what the campaign said. Let's put the statement on the screen. This is what the McCain campaign released after you said that at the campaign event today. So that is what they put out. "While he's clearly his own man, so far Joe has offered some penetrating and clear analysis that cuts to the core of many of the concerns that people have with Barack Obama's statements and policies. Whether it is Obama's willingness to sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, or his plans to redistribute the paychecks of hardworking Americans, there is good reason to question the judgement that Obama would bring to the Oval Office." So that's what they put out, so I guess the fact that he has said it he would meet with Ahmadinejad is something that you have taken to believe would be the death of Israel?

PLUMBER: It definitely does not help the situation. I'm not trying to be dancing around this. I honestly want people to go out and find their own reasons. I tell people not to listen to everyone else's opinion. I'm not going to have them start listening to mine. Go out and get informed.

SMITH: Joe Wurzelbacher on the line with us after a GOP stop, a number of them today.

I just want to make this 100 percent perfectly clear -- Barack Obama has said and demonstrated repeatedly that Israel will always be a friend of the United States, no matter what happens once he becomes President of the United States. His words. The rest of it -- man...some things--it just gets frightening sometimes. We'll be right back

Watch the full interview:

So, Joe The Plumber was out on the trail with John McCain today, apparently giving the thumbs up to someone in the crowd who felt that an Obama Presidency would bring about the end of Israel. From Ra...
So, Joe The Plumber was out on the trail with John McCain today, apparently giving the thumbs up to someone in the crowd who felt that an Obama Presidency would bring about the end of Israel. From Ra...
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- emmalee I'm a Fan of emmalee 5 fans permalink

Its amazing to me that this loser Joe the not licensed plumber who doesnt even make $250,000, is complaining about tax increases that WONT even affect him!!!! He is a liar who doesnt even know anything about foreign policy but the idiots of Palin and McCain and the media continue to give this guy attention????? Are we that dumb to fall for this??? Come on!!! What is going on here???? People have got to WAKE UP!!!!

VOTE OBAMA AND SHOW THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE INSULTING OUR INTELLIGENCE THAT WE ARE WAY AHEAD OF THEM AND THAT WE WILL NOT BE SUCKERED INTO THESE LIES AND MANIPULATION...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 10/31/2008
- collima I'm a Fan of collima 4 fans permalink

Watch IT FOX NEWS Throughs McCain under the Bus....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHPhvxSMfbc


Make sure you push the message that Obama has a much better tax cut plan than McCain...

Joe the plummer is full of his crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 10/31/2008
- muchtosay I'm a Fan of muchtosay 4 fans permalink
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Just go to show you what people will do for 15 minutes of camra time, in his case it went to far maybe 20 minutes..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 10/31/2008
- tegrat I'm a Fan of tegrat 3 fans permalink

Is JTP meant to appeal to the skinhead crowd? He seems to get balder every time I see him...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 10/31/2008

So, Joe the Plumber and Jesse (Jackson) the Jew Hater both agree that
Obama will be terrible for Israel.
Politics certainly makes for strange bedfellows!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 10/31/2008

The idea of using this guy for campaigning is simply pathetic. I have seen the interview he had with Obama several times trying to make sense in why republicans are using him, i can't find anything. Obama clearly answered his question correctly. Anyway McCain & co thinks Americans are ignorant. They lie and accuse Obama of everything so Obama will always be on the defense but they forget the notion that Obama is smart. Personally i think America needs Obama.
Please Listen America

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 10/31/2008
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When I watch a McCain Palin rally and I hear Joe the Plumber, Nancy the Nurse or Gene the Gynecologist (I’m joking here, the McCain health plan wouldn’t include Gynecologists they’d be considered feminist terrorist cells), I don’t know if I’m watching a Frank Capra film that was too corny and too mean to be released or I stumbled into a professional wrestling match. The Republican ticket has managed to take the most serious issues of our time and put them on the Jerry Springer Show.
Senator McCain who was considered a vibrant 72 year old has deteriorated to the point that he now looks like he was hastily assembled by Dr. Frankenstein, who, by the way, after seeing his creation would have certainly yelled, “It’s not alive!” His running mate, Sarah Palin refers to herself as a hockey mom. indeed believe she’s a hockey mom, one that got too close and got hit in the head with a puck. When I look at her, I don’t see lipstick on a pit bull, I see Carl Rove in drag.
During this election we’ve seen a Republican ticket that pandered to the uneducated, uninformed now scrapping the bottom of the brain barrel to find an array of Village People surrogates who’d struggle to pronounce WMCA.
Let's stop rewarding ignorance and make Joe the plumber look into the republican pedestal as we flush John McCain, Sarah Palin and the stench of their constipated politics away, .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 10/31/2008
- sloreader I'm a Fan of sloreader 17 fans permalink

This morning McCain called Joe the Plumber a "true American hero" and got a huge cheer from the several hundred "supporters" he bussed in from Lord knows where. Hero? Based on what? Did he save a kid? Put out a fire? What? I must be missing something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 10/31/2008
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The dumbing-down of America ~~~ "Dumb and Dumber" goes "down and downer" . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 11/01/2008
- MDM4REAL I'm a Fan of MDM4REAL 4 fans permalink

Maybe Sarah and John should be looking for "Joe the Vogler - Founder of the Alaskian Independence Party" to share the views that his members. and former members...(Todd Palin ) believe. Oh and whom the Gov. of Alaska, Sarah Palin praised for their work


Joe Vogler - "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions

Sarah Palin, Palling around and Marrying former unrepentive separatist Todd Palin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xmt0rLtgmK0

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 10/31/2008
- jsgaetano I'm a Fan of jsgaetano 223 fans permalink
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I find it amazing that Sarah the Separatist thinks she can question the patriotism of someone from "the lower 48"... while Sarah the Socialist thinks she can call someone a Socialist/Communist.

That's not even getting into how Palin thinks its out of line to label those who bomb Federal Buildings and woman's health clinics as terrorists. Pretty scary, and hypocritical, stuff... especially considering many view this woman as the future of the GOP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 10/31/2008
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Does Smith not realize the rest of his network relies on misinformation? Why bother with a disclaimer?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 10/31/2008
- sacrebleu I'm a Fan of sacrebleu 11 fans permalink
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It would be interesting (albeit only slightly) to check back and see how much better "Joe" is faring a couple of years into the Obama Administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 10/31/2008
- simkmer I'm a Fan of simkmer 4 fans permalink

The RNC have him in mind for 2012 with Palin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 10/31/2008
- ladybug7 I'm a Fan of ladybug7 42 fans permalink
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Two of a kind. Ignorant, ill-prepared, illogical, idealists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 10/31/2008

Joe (or Samuel, as the case may be) the unlicensed, tax-evading plumber, represents just another grave misstep on McCain's increasingly bumpy campaign trail. It's almost like he's TRYING to lose! First came the disasterous pick of Sarah Palin as VP, then the completely wrongheaded attempt at assassinating Obama's character through incessant negative campaigning, and now, in the final stretch of this race, McBush has made the equally absurd choice of "Joe the Plumber" as the symbolic embodyment of "real America," a nebulous, make-believe population to which his campaign has pandered throughout. So real America is about practicing your profession without a valid license, not paying taxes, spouting off ridiculous and ignorant opinions based on nothing more than predjudices and snippets of facts you've picked up along the way (most seriously misconstrued)? Now that I think about it, I guess that sounds about right.

If I were "Joe," I would frankly be more than a little miffed at McCain parading me around in front of cameras and the news media like a trained monkey, when a cursory look into my personal and professional life reveal that this kind of attention may very well lead to my getting arrested. And still, Joe stumps for his floundering idol, representing not the best America has to offer, but the most embarrassing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 PM on 10/31/2008

I was looking for those exact words. I think he is what is meant in the media as an "lower information voter". Great- these people shouldn't be able to procreate let alone vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 10/31/2008
- carlonero I'm a Fan of carlonero 3 fans permalink

Talk about vox anii! "Joe the Plumber" has always been a fake, and to ask him about foreign policy is like asking my dog about the Talmud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 10/31/2008
- anon004 I'm a Fan of anon004 5 fans permalink

LOL. Well, what can you expect from a campaign that considers seeing Russia from an island and having Russian planes fly over your airspace valid foreign policy experience?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 10/31/2008

That's an insult--to your dog, who probably knows more about the Talmud than Joe the Plumber knows about foreign policy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 11/01/2008
- Oonagh I'm a Fan of Oonagh 31 fans permalink

John McCain needs JTP to plunge all the c**p of the last eight years... and at that he could not get it right... he gets an imposter,, JTP not a licensed plumber and not Joe .. Republicans have become the party that cannot get anything right and they want another four years...... They have become the smoke and mirror party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 10/31/2008

Far be it from me to offer anyone advice on the stock market, but I agree with your first statement. It would seem that the McCain campaign should cause a run on plungers in every household and a company that makes the little tool might be a good investment. His staffers have certainly unloaded their monster drump trucks in our homes and made an effort to clog our minds with their staggering supplies of that there stuff you call a plumber to get rid of.......it. The worst part of the last eight years has been the two of it that John McCain has been after a job he is no more qualified for than his running mate or his non-plumber Joe/Sam would be.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 PM on 10/31/2008

I am a bit concern why dont Joe the so called Plumber get his buisness stared under this adminstration, maybe because he cant get credit like so many other businesses. Let s be real I am a small buisness owner and I get stay in business right now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 PM on 10/31/2008
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