MSNBC Tops CNN For October

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First Posted: 10-28-08 08:48 AM   |   Updated: 11-28-08 05:12 AM

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MSNBC beat CNN in prime time for the month of October, led by the breakout success of "The Rachel Maddow Show," which brought MSNBC its first-ever victory over CNN in the 9PM hour.

The Hollywood Reporter's Paul J. Gough reports:

MSNBC has throttled into second place in three hours of cable news primetime, beating CNN for the month of October.


Fox News, as usual, retains the top slot and is in no danger of relinquishing it. But MSNBC turned in its best primetime performance in its 12-year history in the adults 25-54 demo, according to Nielsen Media Research. It surpassed CNN for second place between 7-10 p.m. with "Hardball," "Countdown With Keith Olbermann" and "The Rachel Maddow Show."


MSNBC GM Phil Griffin said Monday that it's a historic placement for the network and part of MSNBC's long-term strategy when it set out on this course two years ago.


"We wanted to challenge CNN and become a player by the election," Griffin said. "Guess what? In the months leading into the election, we beat CNN."

Griffin also spoke to TVNewser, saying:

"We've never had a performance like this in our history. We tamed the giant of Larry King."

The Numbers
7PM
"Hardball": 458,000 (A25-54)
"Lou Dobbs Tonight": 428,000 (A25-54)

8PM
"Countdown with Keith Olbermann": 784,000 (A25-54)
"Campbell Brown": 582,000 (A25-54)

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9PM
"The Rachel Maddow Show": 700,000 (A25-54)
"Larry King Live": 673,000 (A25-54)

Of course, with MSNBC's growing success comes a target on its back, and CNN President Jon Klein said in a statement that he expects CNN's nonpartisan programming to win out once the passions of the election season have subsided:

CNN is beating MSNBC in primetime, we are No. 1 in all cable news at 10 p.m., and it is no surprise that their partisan approach will see a bump a month before the election. We think our objective, post-partisan approach will have better long-term results.

Such a sentiment was echoed by TV executives on both sides of the political aisle at a media luncheon. The Hollywood Reporter's Paul Bond reports that even Democrats said MSNBC is "out of control" in its liberal leanings:

The cable news channel is "completely out of control," said writer-producer Linda Bloodworth-Thomason, a self-proclaimed liberal Democrat.


She added that she would prefer a lunch date with right-leaning Fox News star Sean Hannity over left-leaning MSNBC star Keith Olbermann.


Olbermann was criticized by many who attended Monday's luncheon sponsored by the Caucus for Producers, Writers & Directors at the Beverly Hills Hotel. The event was dubbed "Hollywood, America and Election '08."


Bloodworth-Thomason and others seemed especially critical of the way MSNBC -- and other media -- has attacked Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin while demeaning her supporters.


"We should stop the demonizing," she said, adding that Democrats have been worse than Republicans as far as personal attacks on candidates are concerned. "It diminishes us," she said of her fellow Democrats.

Full MSNBC press release below:


MSNBC'S RACHEL MADDOW DE-THRONES KING - MSNBC FASTEST GROWING CABLE NET IN OCT.


MSNBC's "The Rachel Maddow Show" Out-Rates CNN's "Larry King Live" in A25-54 in Oct., First Time MSNBC has Ever Out-Rated CNN at 9 PM


"Countdown" Sees Highest Ratings Ever; MSNBC's Best Primetime Performance Ever


"Hardball with Chris Matthews" Out-Rates CNN's "Lou Dobbs" at 7 PM

NEW YORK - Oct. 27, 2008 - MSNBC's seven-week old "The Rachel Maddow Show" marked a huge milestone, out-rating CNN's "Larry King Live" in just its second month on the air among Adults 25-54, the first time ever MSNBC has out-rated CNN at 9 p.m. (700,000 vs. 673,000, program data, excludes presidential debates). "The Rachel Maddow Show" is up an astounding 396 percent from Oct. 07 among A25-54 (700,000 vs. 141,000) and up 387 percent in total viewers (1,893,000 vs. 389,000).

MSNBC's fantastic ratings growth reached new heights in October, becoming the fastest growing network in all of cable for the month (+147% in total viewers, total day vs. Oct. 07, through Friday). MSNBC also saw its best month ever in weekday primetime in total viewers (2,002,000) and in the key Adults 25-54 demographic (769,000).

"Countdown with Keith Olbermann" continued its dominance over CNN at 8 p.m., out-rating "Campbell Brown" by 35 percent in A25-54 (784,000 vs. 582,000) and 41 percent in total viewers (2,175,000 vs. 1,540,000). "Countdown" had its best month ever among A25-54 in October, and is up a tremendous 170 percent in A25-54 from Oct. 07 (784,000 vs. 290,000) and up 180 percent in total viewers (2,175,000 vs. 776,000). Excluding coverage of the presidential debates, "Countdown" is the #3 top-rated show in cable news in A25-54. "Countdown" is also the #1 cable news show among young viewers, Adults 18-34.

"Hardball with Chris Matthews" out-rated CNN's "Lou Dobbs" by 7 percent in A25-54 (458,000 vs. 428,000), delivering the best numbers at 7 p.m. since April 2003 (the start of the war in Iraq). "Hardball" is up a huge 242 percent vs. Oct. 07 (134,000) and up 214 percent in total viewers (423,000).

"Morning Joe" had its best month ever, averaging 224,000 A25-54, and delivered MSNBC's best morning ratings since April of 2003. "Morning Joe" is up 239 percent from Oct. 07 (66,000).

"Race for the White House with David Gregory" delivered 294,000 A25-54, up 272 percent from last year (79,000). These are the best ratings ever for "Race" and the highest ratings in the time period since April of 2003.


Built on the worldwide resources of NBC News, MSNBC defines news for the next generation with world-class reporting and a full schedule of live news coverage, political analysis and award-winning documentary programming -- 24 hours a day, seven days a week. MSNBC's home on the Internet is msnbc.com. Msnbc.com delivers a fuller spectrum of news. Drawing on its award-winning original journalism, NBC News heritage, trusted sources and Microsoft's advanced technologies, the site presents compelling, diverse and visually-engaging stories on the consumer's platform of choice. Nielsen Online reports more than 52 million unique visitors for August 2008, making msnbc.com the number one news site, ahead of Yahoo! News, CNN, ABC, CBS, and Fox News.

MSNBC beat CNN in prime time for the month of October, led by the breakout success of "The Rachel Maddow Show," which brought MSNBC its first-ever victory over CNN in the 9PM hour. The Hollywood Repo...
MSNBC beat CNN in prime time for the month of October, led by the breakout success of "The Rachel Maddow Show," which brought MSNBC its first-ever victory over CNN in the 9PM hour. The Hollywood Repo...
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I never miss MSNBC 7PM-10PM. Keith & Rachel are superstars. Keith tells it like it is as does Rachel. Their wit & intellect is absolutely amazing. David, can really move off the island. Have tried & tried, but can't take him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 10/29/2008
- noblechaos I'm a Fan of noblechaos 3 fans permalink

That fact the MSNBC is topping CNN and O'Reilly in the ratings bodes well for Barack Obama.

Supporters of Obama are overwhelmingly watching programming that is supportive of their candidate.

The ratings of MSNBC may in turn reinforce Obama's leads in polls in Blue States and Toss-Ups in play.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 AM on 10/29/2008
- swbks I'm a Fan of swbks 3 fans permalink

Do your homework, MSNBC isn't even in the same zip code as O'Reilly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 AM on 10/29/2008
- noblechaos I'm a Fan of noblechaos 3 fans permalink

Then you missed Keith tooting his horn that he has beaten O'Reilly 6 out of the last 10 days. In fact, O'Reilly has accused Nielson of supporting Obama and massaging his numbers downward.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 10/29/2008
- zigzag1 I'm a Fan of zigzag1 6 fans permalink

With old guys maybe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 AM on 10/29/2008
- spiffarino I'm a Fan of spiffarino 10 fans permalink

Do your homework. O'Reilly's main demographic farts mummy dust.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 10/29/2008
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Latest avalible ratings

Cable News Ratings for Monday, October 27

8PM - P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor—3,827,000 viewers (938,000) (1,766,000)
Campbell Brown—1,407,000 viewers (560,000) (827,000)
Countdown w/Keith Olbermann– 2,667,000 viewers (1,081,000) (1,444,000)
Nancy Grace –1,388,000 viewers (609,000) (736,000)

I hate to stun you but they are in the Zipcode

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 10/30/2008

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 10/29/2008
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I spend time watching MSNBC and CNN with the hope that FOX will die and rot alone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 10/29/2008
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MSNBC's fantastic from 8-11pm! Chris is Ok pass on Race for the white house though-can not stomach dave

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 AM on 10/29/2008

You know, rhondadavis28, I almost thought you were my sister. Same exact name, same exact spelling. Almost through me for a loop because she never stays up this late due to her illness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 10/29/2008

One more thing, congrats to MSNBC, Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow. My favorites and the only reason I look at MSNBC. DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING. We are the viewers and fans not Linda Bloodswort­h-Thomason­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 AM on 10/29/2008

I agree 100%. Chris, Keith and Rachel are top notch!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 AM on 10/29/2008
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love keith and rachael!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 10/29/2008

Keith Olbermann is too classy to want to go out with the likes of Linda Bloodswort­h-Thomason­. She's worried about how MSNBC is treating Sarah Plain. What about the way she treated Delta Burke and Jackee when they were on her show? Didn't she have it in for plus sized women? What a phoney!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 10/29/2008
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It is encouraging that MSNBC is breaking out off the media control of the corporate Conservatives of CNN and the Murdoch Fox-Wall Street Journel monopoly. These corporate monopolies continue to try to brainwash the American people that a liberal view is unhealthy.

Perhaps if they thought it out better, their attempts ot censure only makes these views more attractive. What you forbid becomes an obbessed desire to have.

Why can't we incorparate all views and truly be the MELTING POT we claim we are. Americans are threatened with the dull psyche that you see Singapore.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 10/28/2008

I agree, there is an attempt by CNN and Fox to distort information and be very misleading!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 PM on 10/28/2008
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I find it fascinating that CNN purports itself to be non-partisan. In 2004 I almost threw something at a hotel TV during the Democratic convention. Was not much better in 2008. Every time I try to watch CNN it is so biased towards Republicans I can barely listen to it. MSNBC, although they have Scarborough, Buchanan, Andrea Mitchell, David Gregory, etc., with Keith and Rachel back to back it is a pleasure to listen to the TV (actually watch on the net). I am thrilled that MSNBC is reaping the rating rewards for their gutsy support of both Keith and Rachel. Thanks!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 10/29/2008
- swbks I'm a Fan of swbks 3 fans permalink

Or there could be an attempt by MSNBC to distort information and be very misleading, just depends on what your view of the world is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 AM on 10/29/2008
- mocha59 I'm a Fan of mocha59 23 fans permalink
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cnn is fair and balanced but didn't let O purchase the time for his show?

interesting. what's that called again....?

i guess they didn't need the income. well, they surely won't be doing ANY lay offs in this thriving economy, right?

GO GET 'EM MSNBC! WE LOVE YOU!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 10/28/2008
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Tonight, Rachel's football analogy for the presidential campaign was nothing short of brilliant. Even Gov. Rendell was impressed I think. Superb interview with Madeline Albright. What a pleasure to watch. And now her own interview with Barack on Thursday!! I want to see those ratings.

To think, only a few months ago, the only way to hear Rachel in Boston was by streaming the Air America feed.

Now if MSNBC can add Thom Hartman and Stephanie Miller, my life will be complete. After a Barack victory, of course...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 PM on 10/28/2008
- noblechaos I'm a Fan of noblechaos 3 fans permalink

Rachel is terrific and a rising star. She may be the heir apparent to Tim Russert on MTP. She's smart and quick on her feet as demonstrated by her improptu off script exchange with David Frum.

I can't think of anyone at NBC or anywhere else that is as sharp and as well prepared as Rachel Maddow.

I think America overall, feels the great loss of Tim Russert this election year - well respected and trusted by both Democrats and Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 AM on 10/29/2008

I think tonight's show may have been Rachel's finest show so far. Yes, that campaign football analogy was terrific, particularly given the fact that I am a baseball gal and yet even I understood the strategy! I also enjoyed the interview with Madeline Albright. What a powerful endorsement for Sen. Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 AM on 10/29/2008
- mocha59 I'm a Fan of mocha59 23 fans permalink
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Keep it comin', msnbc! We need you and appreciate all your hard work and dedication to the safety and TRUTH of our future President!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 10/28/2008
- Jaid I'm a Fan of Jaid permalink

Forgive Peggieleg she is just void of a brain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 10/28/2008
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THis upward trend will probably continue for MSNBC as people are more than tired of the slude proferred by the right wing on Fox, CNN, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 PM on 10/28/2008
- swbks I'm a Fan of swbks 3 fans permalink

Don't be so sure. I know the love affair with Keith, Rachel and Chris is currently a beautiful thing but after awhile people don't like to listen to one side of every story all the time. Your complaints about FOX should apply to you and your lovefest with MSNBC. What makes it OK for MSNBC and not FOX?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 10/29/2008
- protagonia I'm a Fan of protagonia 77 fans permalink

Your ability to identify when you are being lied to is broken.

That is why it is not possible to explain to you that the reason so many people are abandoning fox News is because they are liars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 10/29/2008
- xjerseyx I'm a Fan of xjerseyx 3 fans permalink

i love msnbc,evening line up,,,chris matthews, keith olberman , and rachell maddow hot trio

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 10/28/2008
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