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News Orgs Investigate Possibly Fatal McCain '64 Car Crash

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First Posted: 10-28-08 09:45 AM   |   Updated: 11-28-08 05:12 AM

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For the past two months, a major American magazine and an allied news service have been engaged in a legal battle with the United States Navy over records that they believe show that John McCain once was involved in an automobile accident that injured or, perhaps, killed another individual.

Vanity Fair magazine and the National Security News Service claim to have knowledge "developed from first-hand sources" of a car crash that involved then-Lt. McCain at the main gate of a Virginia naval base in 1964, according to legal filings. The incident has been largely, if not entirely, kept from the public. And in documents suing the Navy to release pertinent information, lawyers for the NS News Service allege that a cover-up may be at play.

"Plaintiffs have also obtained documents showing that law enforcement officers were ordered back to the accident scene to retrieve personal physical effects. The Navy has never publicly acknowledged this information," one document reads. "This request involves federal government activity, as it addresses what may be an attempt by the Navy to protect by concealment the involvement of a former Navy officer, sitting Senator and Presidential candidate in a serious incident involving the injury or death of another human being."

The first request for information concerning duty assignment logs to Portsmouth Naval Hospital -- where McCain was allegedly brought after the accident -- came in the form of a Freedom of Information Act request on August 28, 2008. The Navy acknowledged receipt of the request and advised that it had located the relevant information a few weeks later, only to deny the FOIA on grounds that it didn't prove an "imminent threat to the life or physical safety of an individual" or satisfy the criteria of "a breaking news story of general public interest."

"The patient admission record logs that you seek are exempt from release," wrote G.E. Lattin, Deputy Assistant Judge Advocate General, "as information in personnel and medical files, as well as similar personal information in other files, that if disclosed to a requestor, other than the actual person in which the information is pertaining to or next of kin, would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy."

NS News Service and Vanity Fair appealed the decision and asked for expedited treatment of the case, as the end of the presidential election loomed. But the Navy denied that request as well.

"It appears to be a deliberate refusal to provide clearly releasable information concerning assignments to Portsmouth Naval Hospital," wrote legal representatives for the two news organizations. "Allowing the Navy to extend its time to respond beyond a date when the documentary facts of this matter would be available for public consideration prior to the national election on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 would violate the spirit, as well as the provisions of the FOIA."

Staff for National Security News Service and the company's lawyer both refused to discuss the proceedings. And there are only parcels of information concerning the story that can be gleaned from the court documents.

At a minimum it seems clear that Vanity Fair and NS News Service have launched an investigation "disclosing first-hand witnesses' recollection of an automobile accident in which then Lt. John S. McCain III was involved. Those witnesses specifically recall McCain's assignment to that [hospital] facility with the other person involved in the accident." This episode in McCain's life has, it seems, not been made public, and the plaintiffs suggest that the Navy may be attempting to actively restrict information about the incident.

"The subject matter of the documents is a matter of current exigency to the American public," reads a document filed by legal representatives for the news service, "because the requester is preparing a current news report addressing whether the Navy continues to conceal the involvement of a Navy officer in a serious automobile accident in July 1964."

For the past two months, a major American magazine and an allied news service have been engaged in a legal battle with the United States Navy over records that they believe show that John McCain once ...
For the past two months, a major American magazine and an allied news service have been engaged in a legal battle with the United States Navy over records that they believe show that John McCain once ...
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- JustMom I'm a Fan of JustMom permalink

It seems that McCain's right to personal privacy is much more important to him than being the President of the United States.

The Navy covers for McCain based on "invasion of personal privacy"? Since when does any military branch consider personal rights of anyone?

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 11/02/2008
- ericmiami I'm a Fan of ericmiami 89 fans permalink
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Maybe when this is over, poor John will hold his breath 'til he turns blue?

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 AM on 11/01/2008
- Archivist1000 I'm a Fan of Archivist1000 168 fans permalink
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WHY ISN'T VANITY FAIR AND OTHER TRUTH SEEKING ORGS LOOKING INTO TRIG PALIN'S BIRTH ????????????????????

WHY HASN'T PALIN SUPPLIED HER MEDICAL RECORDS????????

SHE HAS GOTTEN AWAY WITH THIS >>>>>>>>>>> JUST LIKE BUSH GOT AWAY WITH SO MUCH BECAUSE HE JUST IGNORED THE PEOPLE

ELECTION IS IN 3 days and STILL no Medical Records!!

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 AM on 11/01/2008

Perhaps you might want to know that McCain himself gave money to this "terrorist" Palestinian he talks so much about. And is anyone calling Mayor Daley for associating with Bill Ayers, who was Chicago citizen of the Year in 1996? Who was appointed by Daley to head an education reform later funded by the Annenberg Foundation? That just never seems to get mentioned.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 10/31/2008
- Figerre I'm a Fan of Figerre 14 fans permalink

so - how is this coming along? Not hearing much about it.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 04:05 PM on 10/31/2008
- JiminNC I'm a Fan of JiminNC 352 fans permalink
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Where's an update dammit?

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 AM on 10/31/2008

Haha, I was thinking the same thing, which is why I just clicked back to this post. Where is the update???

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 10/31/2008

In the article it says that in response the FOIA that .
"The Navy acknowledged receipt of the request and advised that it had located the relevant information a few weeks later"

Located the relevant information ?

While I dont have a copy of that FOIA referenced in the article, I do know that in the legal filings ....( I suggest that you download and read the document for yourself)

http://www.courthousenews.com/2008/10/20/McCainAccident.pdf

...it states "Based on Plantiff's investigation, including information provided by civilian law enforcement personel"

So someone from a police department, sheriff's office, or some officer of a court in that area, has provided at least some evidence that this event did occur.

One note about the term "assignment of Navy personnel" contained in the FOIA request, as expressed in the legal filing "Navy records listing assignments of Navy personnel to Portsmouth Naval Hospital".

A Navy man myself at that time, I know exactly what the term means. It means that John McCain was admitted. Reassigned from his duty station. Literally transfered (reassigned ) to the hospital.

The fact that the Navy had located the relevant information, means that there are medical records showing that John McCain was admitted to the hospital that day.

More proof ? Deputy Assistant Judge Advocate General G.E. Lattin wrote "The patient admission record logs that you seek are exempt from release,"

Proof ?

You betcha

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 AM on 10/31/2008
- Inoefea I'm a Fan of Inoefea permalink

On the money...Proof_Right_here...

Everyone has skeletons in their closet and all those running for public office should allow the public to view them and let us decide how WE the People, feel about what they have done.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 11/01/2008
- slowhand0728 I'm a Fan of slowhand0728 37 fans permalink
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I dont see how or who would care, there is plenty dismissed about Obama's history that is much more recent. 1964? And cover-up is strong, Military and incidents on military bases are not considered public domain, IE Area 51. Kind of why they have their own court system. So not sure this would sway anyone. Lets just stick to what is relevent or the Rev Wright/Ayers stuff will all of a sudden be more relevent since so recent.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 AM on 10/31/2008
- Pennsieve I'm a Fan of Pennsieve permalink

Obviously you are too young to remember Chappaquiddick, MA, where a fatal accident he was responsible for completely negated Teddy Kennedy's bid for the presidency. The American people essentially decided they did not want someone in the highest office in the land who contributed to the death of another US citizen by their negligence. What is nearly as bad if this is true is the question of whether a McCain accident was covered up and whether McCain ever answered for that death in a court of law. If true, his continued military service seems to indicate he was not. Neither Wright nor Ayres were responsible for ANY deaths, and Ayres DID go to trial for his actions. Ayres' actions for which he is criticized were 40 years ago and he is only an Obama ASSOCIATE. I don't see why the American public can't go back 40 years with McCain HIMSELF. It It

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 10/31/2008
- slowhand0728 I'm a Fan of slowhand0728 37 fans permalink
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May have a point Ted's incident, to put it lightly was before my time. But the man was and still is a sitting Senator. It derailed him at the time from the presidency. Today's audiance does not seem to remember 4 years ago, I just dont see 40 years + being a factor. Anyway think it is too late, just surprised he was not nailed for this so many elections ago. Seems if there was enough smoke someone along the lines would have burned him before.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 10/31/2008
- massager I'm a Fan of massager permalink

Fox News always says fair and balanced, why haven't they covered this? Balanced? What a joke!

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 10/31/2008
- massager I'm a Fan of massager permalink

Send this to everyone you know so they will know too. We should know about these candidates.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 10/31/2008
- petejo I'm a Fan of petejo permalink

is there recourse above the navy--like u.s. court system? should be pursued even if the info comes out only after election day.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 10/31/2008
- petejo I'm a Fan of petejo permalink

has anyone asked mccain directly during the campaign? what's his position? does he deny it? would be good to know his position now, in case the full story comes out later. then we'll have him for lying as well as cover up and drunk driving or whatever.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 10/30/2008
- jcole I'm a Fan of jcole 4 fans permalink

NO, THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA WILL NOT ASK THE QUESTION, BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO PROTECT MR MCCAIN AND MRS PALIN, DAILYKOS CAN'T FIND ANT RECORDS ON THE BIRTH OF MRS PALIN NEW BORN, SO IF WE THINK THAT THIS INFORMATION WILL COME OUT BEFORE THE ELECTION YOU ARE WRONG, AND WE MAY NEVER NO.EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT MR MCCAIN'S EXPERIANCE, WHAT EXPERIANCE, EVERY THING THAT HE GOT SOME ONE GAVE IT TO HIM, OR MADE A WAY FOR HIM, AND THEY THE REPUBLICAN WILL STEAL THIS ELECTION FOR HIM.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 AM on 10/31/2008
- massager I'm a Fan of massager permalink

Where is "The Staight Talk Express?"

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 10/30/2008
- Tiggy I'm a Fan of Tiggy 30 fans permalink
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I was wondering why the press never ask McCain about this? Perhaps they should ask Mrs. "I am gonna talk straight to the American People" about this as she is his running mate! If it were the average Joe the plumber involved in a vehicle incident where someone lost their life, it would be a matter of public record.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 10/30/2008
- jcole I'm a Fan of jcole 4 fans permalink

IT NEVER EXISTED, MR MCCAIN HAVE BEEN ANYTHING BUT SMOKE AND MIRROW'S ALL OF HIS LIFE. AT THIS TIME MR MCCAIN IS SAYING COUNTRY FIRST, NO NO NO, JOHN MCCAIN FIRST BEFORE HE DIE AND THE HELL WITH THE COUNTRY. AMERICA WILL DESTROY HERSELF BECAUSE OF RACE AND BIGOTRY.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 AM on 10/31/2008
- lllll I'm a Fan of lllll permalink

To quote jcole "Mr McCain have been anything but smoke and mirrows all of his life." You go on to write more gibberish. Incomprehensible blabber. If you want to see racism and bigotry leave the United States and go almost anywhere else in the world! I've lived in many other countries and racism is pervasive and tolerated big time. The problem n this country is people don't know how good it is here. Racism will never go away completely but America is a good place.

BTW, I hope to God you don't vote. If someone is incapable of constructing a sentence that a reader can decipher that someone should not vote!

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 11/01/2008

LISTEN ALL: Please Go Vote! There has been confirmed reports of voting fraud with the Republican Party and its supporters. Obama is need of all the votes necessary to create a landslide. Let's make sure that our state turns blue! Voting is a right and a privilege. Let's all make history together! (wouldn't you be proud to tell your kid(s) that you contributed to history 1 year from now, 5 years from now, 10 years from now or 20 years from now? - I surely would.)

http://politicaladattacks.blogspot.com/

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 PM on 10/30/2008
- slowhand0728 I'm a Fan of slowhand0728 37 fans permalink
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Confirmed reports of Rep Voter fraud? Where? Please provide link. That would be worth sending around to alert people.

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 AM on 10/31/2008
- Heartlight3 I'm a Fan of Heartlight3 37 fans permalink
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In Virginia Democratic voters were mailed an official looking notice that said that due to the large numbers of voters, Democrats should go to the polls to vote on Wednesday and Republicans should vote on Tuesday. That sounds like Republican fraud to me.

http://udbmas.newsvine.com/_news/2008/10/27/2045690-phony-flier-says-virginians-vote-on-different-days-hamptonroadscom-pilotonlinecom

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 11/01/2008
- BillCarson I'm a Fan of BillCarson 6 fans permalink
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He probably means republican election fraud.

There's plenty of info at BradBlog
http://www.bradblog.com/

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 11/01/2008
- imsosure I'm a Fan of imsosure 28 fans permalink
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Who'd he kill this time? He's butchering this campaign, was it really a car wreck or just another reckless day in the life if John Boy?

    Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 10/30/2008
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