Olbermann: Sarah Palin Is A Socialist

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The Huffington Post   |   October 28, 2008 11:48 PM


In a Special Campaign Comment, Keith Olbermann cites yet another example of the McCain campaign accusing Barack Obama of something of which they themselves are guilty. In this case, Sarah Palin is accusing Barack Obama of advocating socialism when she literally used that word to describe the collective wealth sharing in her home state of Alaska.

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In a Special Campaign Comment, Keith Olbermann cites yet another example of the McCain campaign accusing Barack Obama of something of which they themselves are guilty. In this case, Sarah Palin is acc...
In a Special Campaign Comment, Keith Olbermann cites yet another example of the McCain campaign accusing Barack Obama of something of which they themselves are guilty. In this case, Sarah Palin is acc...
 
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When my son went to Norway, he never saw wealthy people or poor people " but a country full of middle-class with no crime to be seen " and very safe. Everything was very clean in his opinion, and I hear Charvez is trying to bring this kind of life to his country. Chavez is not a dictator " but a man elected by the people, and has been drastically improving health care and education in his country.

More interesting music (not from Sweden " but one from Australia and the other from Romania)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUueEVXw7ec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJJ-ukGwNQM

Now relax and take it easy -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJJ-ukGwNQM

This may bring back memories of those born in the early 80's -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApLTDoJea2Q&feature=related (cute)

Happy Thanksgiving - (I will be off line for awhile now......) ! God bless --

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 11/01/2008

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Now I would not want what Soviet Russia had (dictatorship without religious freedom), or what Cuba had (same thing at one time) " but I would not mind what Sweden has. Sweden has one of the highest rates of social mobility in the world (ability for someone to move up in life from lower class to upper class regardless of their parents financial situation). United States is second to worse (England is worst). See:

http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/pressAndInformationOffice/newsAndEvents/archives/2005/LSE_SuttonTrust_report.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 11/01/2008


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Swedish people seem HAPPY. Was it Barbara West that said "something" like " how do you (Biden) respond to the fear that many have, that Obama will turn America into a socialist country like Sweden? I think we would say (as the Swedish say)..."don't worry " be happy."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9Shor9Bq_g

They look really REPRESSED don't they? Lol. You don't hear about Swedish people trying to get out of their country (places like Norway) on rafts. Socialized health care (85 percent paid for by the government) see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Sweden
not a bad thing.

A Christian was persecuted (as they are all over the world, including U.S.) but at the end " the pastor won (JUSTICE) " so Sweden is not perfect -but they certainly are not worse than the U.S. - and their system worked in this case.

They also offer free education (including college), higher education is free of charge, both for Swedes and for foreigners " See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Sweden

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 11/01/2008

The European states are more democratic than the US and yet many of their social policies are Socialist in nature. Yes, the taxes are high (VAT), but when we want to point out good transportation systems, health care for citizens, and safety nets for the very poor, disabled and elderly, we point to them. A little social democracy here wouldn't hurt things, and we need the tax money to fund public projects.

The next time you drive over a bridge, look to see if it was built in the 1930's, the last time the US really invested time, money and material in its own infrastructure. Socialism? I'd rather say that the collective good of the people of the US does not have to be sacrificed if we all paid a fair share to make sure we all have the things we need at a basic level. That is called taking care of the well being of the nation. It is not welfare. Welfare is what wealthy corporations get from the government even though they make profits beyond an individual's wildest dreams. Subsidizing successful companies with tax money is Socialism. It is corporate welfare and needs to end.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 11/01/2008

I never considered the Alaska wealth redistribution. What a great observation! You know I read an op ed piece written by the mayor of Ketchikan attempt to justify the so called Bridge to Nowhere. He made a decent attempt to explain why the bridge was necessary for the economic growth of his city (airport built on a different island then the city). I can't argue with the man's logic. What I would suggest however is that the Governor of Alaska float a bond measure to build this bridge and then use the tax rebate Alaskans receive annually to pay back the bond. This seems a better way to fund such a parochial project.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 AM on 11/01/2008

Obama proposes tax cuts for 95% of TAXPAYING AMERICAN FAMILIES...as in families consisting of WORKING people!!!

He will give the RICH people a slight tax increase!!!

When McCain talks about Obama hurting small business and the middle class, it's because McCain believes that a person isn't rich until they have $5 million in annual income. In other words, he and Cindy are middle class because they only made $4.2 million last year. Under Obama's tax proposal, they would only end up netting around $4million---the poor dears...one less party dress for Cindy!!

If you're a millionaire and don't want to help fix this country's problems, then it's a wise though selfish decision to vote for McCain. If you make less than $250,000 per year and you vote for McCain, you're not voting for the person who will cut your taxes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 11/01/2008

Good points !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 11/01/2008
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I am getting my info from the horses mouth(Obama). He is the one that has said he would raise taxes on the small businesses. Example would be his comments to "Joe the plumber." He can't take his own and twist them afterwords to make it sound better. Those were his words. Also I don't know where you live but in my state people on welfare only have to say they have tried to find a job. They may show where they went on an interview but didn't get hired. Or a perfect example is someone my husband works with that has 4 children all by different men and she only works part time. Why? Because she would lose her welfare check. She doesn't want a raise either. Why? Because she would lose her welfare check. She is choosing to only work part time and not take raises so that she can keep colloecting her free money. She could better herself but chooses not to. Don't tell me that there are not people out there who sit around and watch Oprah and take my hard earned money b/c they choose not to work. They need to get a job and earn their own money. Mc Donald's is always hiring. I donate my portion of money to my church and for the charities I believe need help. I should not have to take care of some lazy person that chooses not to work or better themselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 10/31/2008

No program is perfect. For instance, you seem to feel that capitalism is perfect. Let me point out something to you. George Will said this about true capitalism, "The govt should only bother about security of the people and law regarding that. After that, the people should handle themselves". Frankly, that works out for people like me if I am skillful and intelligent. As long as I do not mess up and upgrade my skills, I will be in a good job. However, going by the averages, people seldom do so. If you see the data in US, people's education and skill level is decreasing. Ideally, the govt should not care about education even. There should be no public schools and colleges. Everything must be private. I can imagine the chaos in the country then. Neither my wife nor I ever spend our time on TV. I do not think that most people (except a small number) would like that. Since all banks are handling themselves (no bailouts of any kind), if they make a mistake, they take the time to correct themselves (or go down trying). If this creates a disaster, the country goes down. I wonder if that would work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 10/31/2008

How are you going to pay for the Iraq war without taxes?
Regarding welfare: what about all the Bushies (Department of Justice?) recently in the news for the "conferences" they have taken costing hundreds of thousands; educational programs in fancy hotels. But the only "welfare" you talk about is minorities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 10/31/2008
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I have no problem paying taxes for things that are worth while, like supporting our troops or building a better economy for my child's future. But when Obama says lets spread the wealth, that is not what he is talking about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 11/04/2008

There are no lazy people sitting around watching Oprah taking your money. Bill Clinton signed a bill that reformed welfare for the poor, and they have to work for their check - unless disabled. Those that are disabled and get some kind of settlement, they have to pay back the money to the government for the public assistance that temporarily helped them. Unemployment - both the employers and employees pay into that one. Your not paying towards any welfare for the POOR. You may be paying welfare for the upper middle-class or rich - thru your taxes for Corporation Welfare, and Obama wants to put a STOP TO THAT. Look at the 700 trillion bail out that our government just gave to the International Bankers/Wall Street - that is CORPORATE WELFARE - and they are not sitting on their butts watching Oprah unless it is at an expensive spa or jet. Why are you complaining about people that tax payers money is NOT going to, and NOT complain about where it goes that may not be in your best interest - like pay for a few to sit in expensive spa's (not poor people) on your tax payer dollar?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 11/01/2008

You are paying far more for corporate welfare- poor oil companies and drug companies. Look at the wasted money on all the supposed 9-11 security given every state- regardless of need, and every little wayside, such as Wasilla which received $100 per citizen from the federal tax dole from the Homeland Security PorkPot. Republican voters are so misled-learn to use the computer to learn something- get off of Rush and Drudge and go to Factcheck.org. or just get info from the US Government: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/opre/project/projectIndex.jsp#other
John Sidney McCain, III and Cindy will have to pay- what- $800,000* in taxes under Obama so no wonder they are fighting so hard. Yeah! Right! America First.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 AM on 11/04/2008
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I do believe that I have studied all of the information about both candidates before I made my decision. So before you go and judge someone you have never met maybe you should take a long look at yourself, I have never once made an insult about anyone on this site. I simply stated my opinion, although it is someone that acts defensively and insulting to other opinions that make me a proud Republican and even more happy about my vote today!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 PM on 11/04/2008
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The only thing scary is that people can't see through his bull even now. Oh, and if I had any spare time on my hands after school, work and a 6 yr old I would be a campaing worker. Once again a person who can not come up with a good reason for voting for him. and you call me pathetic! Look in the mirror or better yet try talkin to a finance teacher.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 10/30/2008

Here is a good reason to vote for Obama:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtREqAmLsoA

Obam's interests are for ALL the people...not just a few elite like McCain.
McCain will let Wall Street GAMBLE YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY away (as he wants to privatize it - with NO regulations..and we know how that works with the international bankers crisis), and Obama
wants to save it. McCain wants to get rid of social programs (not only social security - privatize it to get rid of it, but unemployment and workers compensation etc.,) and those are safety nets that we need.
I don't have to take my time to make a list when you can watch the VIDEO and see for yourself. I know people have been gullible sometimes - but this is so clear - who is for the people and who is for the CORPORATIONS...and Obama is for the PEOPLE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 10/30/2008

Obama promises tax cuts for 95% of working Americans, although 35-40% of working Americans PAY NO FEDERAL TAXES!! Obamanuts counter "What about payroll taxes--we all pay those!"

"Payroll taxes" is FICA -- Social Security. For Obama to reduce FICA on those who pay no federal tax, he would be reducing revenues going in to the SSI fund, right? "Not," say Obama backers, "if we make the rich pay the difference!"

So, Obama will raise income taxes, SSI payments, and capital gains taxes on those making more that $250,000 and everybody's happy, right? Last night, he said "working families making less than $200,000 wouldn't pay ANY MORE TAXES." The income bar just keeps moving down. Biden said families making less than $150,000 shouldn't have their taxes raised.

If this sounds familiar it's because Bill Clinton also ran on middle class tax cuts. Alas, once sworn in, he said things were worse than he thought--he RAISED taxes on EVERYBODY and did it RETROACTIVELY to the year before! "Rich" became those making as little as $42,000.

Nobody claims the SS trust fund is doing anything but going bankrupt. That McCain wants to allow YOUNG workers the OPTION to invest SOME of their earnings in the stock market which, even after the huge correction we've just encountered is still several thousand points higher than it was 10 years ago, shows he's thinking outside the box. Obama's tried and true populist message is the same old politics, his protestations notwithstanding.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 10/30/2008
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Twas the night before elections*

*And all through the town*

*Tempers were flaring*

*Emotions all up and down!*

*I, in my bathrobe*

*With a cat in my lap*

*Had cut off the TV*

*Tired of political crap.*

*When all of a sudden*

*There arose such a noise*

*I peered out of my window*

*Saw Obama and his boys*

*They had come for my wallet*

*They wanted my pay*

*To give to the others*

*Who had not worked a day!*

*He snatched up my money*

*And quick as a wink*

*Jumped back on his bandwagon*

*As I gagged from the stink*

*He then rallied his henchmen*

*Who were pulling his cart*

*I could tell they were out*

*To tear my country apart!*

*' On Fannie, on Freddie, *

*On Biden and Ayers!*

*On Acorn, On Pelosi'*

*He screamed at the pairs!*

*They took off for his cause*

*And as he flew out of sight*

*I heard him laugh at the nation*

*Who wouldn't stand up and fight!*

*So I leave you to think*

*On this one final note-*

*IF YOU DONT WANT SOCIALISM*

*GET OUT AND VOTE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 10/30/2008

esjs
Sounds like a McCain/Palin campaign worker - smear and false fear tactics RIGHT TO THE END. Pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 PM on 10/30/2008
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My husband and I get up before dawn every morning to go to work and I take night classes all in an effort to better our family. For some reason people think it is a great idea to take MY money and give it to some lazy person that sits around and watches Oprah all day. I do not understand all of you that seem to think this is smart. Do you not realize that raising taxes on small businesses will ultimately mean lay offs for workers. Or that the man you want to be President wants to "CHANGE" our great country from everything it was built on. Or that he is nothing but a charismatic man who could talk his way out of a firing squad, he does not once answer a question with a straight answer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 10/30/2008

How can you be giving money to those that sit around and watch Oprah all day? The poor on public assistance (welfare for the poor) have to work for their check, unless they are disable. Corporate Welfare is what is abundant (and Obama wants to stop that...and save tax payers money) but they (getting corporate welfare) are too busy at expense spas on your tax payers money and flying in jets...not sitting around watching Oprah in the afternoon - unless it is on one of their jets. Where are you getting your information? Obama is NOT raising taxes on SMALL BUSINESSES.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtREqAmLsoA

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 10/30/2008

Obama only wants to raise taxes on SUCCESSFUL small businesses--the kind that make MONEY and HIRE PEOPLE!! Over 90% of all small businesses fail within two years (think: Your average Amway distributor). These unsuccessful small business take writeoffs for losses--they pay no income tax, in any event!

Successful small business, the ones responsible for HIRING the middle class, WOULD pay more taxes...gee, think they might not want to hire more people or, perhaps, lay off workers?

Get a grip, BornAgainBeliever...Obama knows not what he does!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 10/30/2008

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I have heard that teachers are told in some places to do janitorial work now and in some retail stores...because janitorial companies usually have unions and charge more and hour. I am looking at what affects me personally - and I am someone that would spend money if I had the money -and that makes the economy better for everyone. I am the only person in my family that is no longer a Republican ( and I am not a Democrat either " vote on issues not for party) and I can't have a political conversation with any of them. My parents have a big old McCain/Palin sign in their front yard and they don't have any neighbors too see it ..it is a home pretty much set back and private. I did not always see things the way I do today...but since I lost my home to a foreclosure (and no fault of my own) in a divorce - I have seen social programs a benefit that at one time I would have been embarrassed to use or even thought it was for lazy people. But anyone that lost their home to a foreclosure, fire, flood, knows that it is good to have safety nets (not wanting to burden family and/or not able to move out of the state for custody reasons) and we are all one pay check away from being poor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 PM on 10/30/2008

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I also know (from trying to get alimony court ordered and not getting " but records were subpoenaed - including bank statements and I read bank records etc., from former husband that IS one of those successful small businesses) he can earn so much money he doesn't have to claim..barter and also live OFF his company...$5k here and there written to friends and girlfriends before a trip to Europe or sailing the Keys..etc., and dinner dates as business expenses at expensive restaurants. I noticed we (tax payers) are paying for some spa expenses of some businessmen. What I see most complaining about is (in small businesses) is NOT that they are being taxed more (they are not in my opinion) but they do not want to be responsible any longer for health insurance and benefits that once was common for any employer to give to their employee - so THEY can live a higher lifestyle, and if they could get salve labor they would. Honestly - because I have family I love and care about..I don't want them to hurt anymore than I want to myself and we are in very different financial situations. I want what is best for everyone - and I know that some that complain are doing for no good reason and I am wise to some of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:38 PM on 10/30/2008

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Now many corporations don't treat their employers right and they have a high turnover - there is no incentive to stay -and when something better comes they go. There is no loyalty either way anymore. Persons that worked for 40 some years at the same company - because of pension benefits etc., to find out that their pension was gone - in my mind is a crime and horrible thing to do. Why? I see it as greed with a few at the top - the CEO's get paid more, and the persons at the bottom (that do the labor to make them money lose their benefits, get used and abused many times for their small wages. What some are forgetting is the world doesn't revolve around the few riches persons in the world. If the poor or middle class are not able to spend money - they are not going to be any richer at the top. Why do you think Ford started off saying his employees would be able to afford a car? What happened is greed got out of control as time went on. And most of these companies now hire temp help so they do not have to pay benefits. Why? More for CEO'S. (Continued)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 10/30/2008

They wouldn't be on welfare if they went to elementary school with Sarah Palin. She gives high paying jobs to all graduates of Wasilla Elementary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 10/31/2008

Please esjs- is it a small bizness that makes 250,000 dollars? You need to relax and get the facts, and stop being so fearful and angry. No one will be taking your money- you sound like the one who will benefit more with Obama than under John Sidney McCain the third.
"No socialism" even McCain agreed on Larry King . Check out http://www.factcheck.org for fair appraisal on both sides.
We all want a better country. Remember your guys have destroyed America for the past 8 years. Relax- we all get through this together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 AM on 11/04/2008

Does anyone really believe that Sarah Palin knew what a "socialist" was two weeks ago. My guess is she thought it was someone who throws alot of parties. Unless she's been throughly prepped, she has no idea what she is talking about. I'm embarrassed that the rest of the world has to suffer her. Please take your 2.2 GPA and 841 SAT and go back to where you belong, cluelessly marching around in a bathing suit at a local beauty pageant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 10/30/2008

The money people get in Alaska is from OIL in Alaska. It is not from other taxpayers.
How much profit has the Federal government make from taxing gas?
What do they do to get the oil from the ground?
I wish I was as clueless as Keith and didn't know what socialism really is. You take from the people who sacrifice and take the risk to make the money and give it to people who don't want to take that chance.
So if you want to educate yourself,spend sleepless night wondering if your business will survive, wondering how you will pay your employees, how you will pay your own bills, how you will feed your own family, then feel free to vote for socialist politicians(Democratic Party).
If all you want to do is live off the hard work of other people then please go ahead and bury your head in the sand.
If you want the government to tell you how you will save for your future. Then go ahead and give them the power to do it. We all know how well all the othergovernment programs work right? I know I can't wait to hopefully collect Social Security when I retire. Im sure it will be so peacefull when I get all that money.
It's also funny how when you criticize Obama they will scrutinize everything you have ever done. But yet they won't even look at Barack Hussein Obama and his rise to power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 10/30/2008

You are wrong, socialism similar to capitalism comes in different levels. What you are talking about is communism where everyone contributes according to their capabilities and is given according to their needs. Socialism comes in multiple levels:
(1) Higher taxes for people who make more
(2) Sharing of natural resources
(3) Creation of an egalitarian society
For instance, a country like Russia does not share the money from natural resources. So, what she is doing is a form of socialism. Despite what you think, those who support Obama are not unthinking idiots. The truth for you is in multiple levels. First, we do not have true capitalism in US (we never had it). I want you to think about that. Next, Obama has been scrutinized pretty carefully, where as Palin has not been. Why are you scared of that? Third, your social security is disappearing due to the policies of your precious current president. So, do not shoot off your mouth (or pen). Be more thoughtful and analytical.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 10/30/2008

Why is it that when anyone disagrees with a liberal they are idiots? I guess thats why liberals know so much more than I do on how to spend my OWN money. Thanks for setting me straight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 10/30/2008

If socialism is so great then, why aren't there more socialist countries?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 10/30/2008

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Thank you so much for sharing that. I think you explained it well. I know that U.S. is not pure capitalism; it could not be with the social programs we have. BUT, that is what pure capitalism would be like - (what McCain wants....) with no social security, medicare, unemployment, workers compensation, etc., - it would be horrible. I think you would have to have slave labor, to have PURE capitalism. Two classes of people and NO MIDDLE CLASS. Hum...what I liked about your comment is the "differences" between communism and socialism - that was good, it helped me to understand the differences more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 10/30/2008



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And your right about about our current President (who I heard stole our savings of social security we PAID INTO, and spent in Iraq and places like that...) because one thing Clinton did that was good (and he did A LOT BAD no one noticed because the economy was good) was he restored our unemployment fund and left Bush Jr. with a SURPLUS to the best of my understanding. Bush threw all that money away and left our nation in DEBT. Obama has no choice but to raise taxes on the rich (that just got CORPORATE WELFARE - about 700 trillion) to get our country out of debt. Sad people blame the working poor or just plain poor (those on public assistance now work for their welfare if not disabled - because of reform Bill Clinton put into law..that gradually took effect into Bush's term) instead of those that really are taking our tax dollars...and that is the RICHEST not poorest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 PM on 10/30/2008

Part A
Hum....if communism is where everyone contributes according to their capabilities and is given according to their needs - isn't that what Act 2:45 kjb says? Acts 2:45 says - "And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need."
If you now go to your (a) bible and read Ephesians 6:6,10-18 - maybe Christians should see that the secular world took a Christian principal, and made a good word appear as something bad. I watch old movies and the word GAY meant HAPPY - and now so many use the word referring to homosexuality, that people are afraid to say the word gay in any other context. But, in reality - Jesus taught communism principles according to what your definition says, and my dictionary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 10/30/2008

Since you don't seem to understand capitalism, let me explain it in a simple way: a private individual or company invests money in an enterprise and hopes to make an income, and hopefully a profit, off of his investment. So it does not matter whether or not the enterprise is oil, hamburgers, cotton, whiskey or one's own labor. We use capital--money--to do these things and hope to get more money back. So saying that the money people get in Alaska is not from taxes, it's from oil is uninformed and shows a misunderstanding of how business operates. The oil is not just lying around for Alaskans to turn into money. Private enterprises--oil companies--buy the rights, the land, the equipment, hire the people to seek the oil, drill for it, store it, transport it and sell it. The money that they get from selling it is their income. If that income has to be shared with the state, whether it is a cost of doing business or a direct tax, that part going to the state is taxation, which can come in many forms. So taking income from a private company and giving it to private citizens who really didn't do anything to get it is not just a form of socialism, it is more akin to communism. If the State of Alaska gets the money because they own all or part of the oil business, that also is socialism or communism. It is not capitalism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 10/30/2008

Part I of II
Your right. Someone else told me it (Alaska) is more communism than socialism. There is a difference I believe. So why is Palin accusing Obama of being what SHE IS? Interesting. She is socialist or a communist? I have no problem with either, as long as they are not a DICTATOR - and prohibits freedom of religion. China has become a capitalistic (no longer communist) doctoral country. China's dictatorship has taken away religious freedom NOT communism. I would rather live in a socialist country under a government that we elected the President, than a capitalist dictatorship any day (LIKE CHINA HAS BECOME). Actually I think the difference between capitalism and socialism (correct me if I am wrong please) is that socialism you have the essentials (health-care, food/water, shelter, etc,, and some throw in free education) and can earn more money when you work for a job with more qualifications - that give an INCENTIVE to work harder and be more productive than PURE communism, that pays everyone the same and provides the same essentials of things people need to survive such as food, shelter, water, etc., and some throw in a free education. Sorry for that long run on sentence. Social security did come from socialism - and what our country seems to have done (which I like the best) is they have incorporated socialism (social programs like medicare, social security, etc,) into our democracy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 10/30/2008

Part II of II
It doesn't seem fair that the middle class (now) in some cases can pay the same taxes as the very rich - because of the CAP on taxes for the elite. Obama just wants to make it fair for everyone, and the only people that will have increased taxes are those that make more than $250K a year, and then gradually go up and the ladder. Isn't this what Bill Clinton did back in the 90's that gave us a great economy back then? I realized we do not live in a perfect world, and communism in the purest form (biblical form) would not work on earth...but Christians need to realize that heaven will be very much so...meaning we will have all things in common..and the bible tells us as Christians to even sell what you have if there is a need in the body of Christ (in the church). I think Christians should practice that (making sure there is no one in your local church that has a need that you can't meet - and should if they do..because it is BIBLICAL - book of Acts) - but as far as our government - I think what we have is good (democracy with social programs) and I do not want someone like McCain coming in and getting rid of the social programs that could send people into the street and no safety nets for someone hurt at work or laid off...as we have today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 10/30/2008

Part III (woops...)
Thanks for your explaining all that...it was interesting. PS - Obama is neither a socialist or a communist - but he he wasts a more fair tax plan, as what we have now caters to the 1-5 percent richest allegedly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 10/30/2008

Part III (whoops.. computer problems now, freezing and then my typing all messed up when it works again....)
Thanks for your explaining all that...it was interesting. PS - Obama is neither a socialist or a communist - but he wants a more fair tax plan, as what we have now caters to the 1-5 percent richest allegedly.
Nite.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:54 PM on 10/30/2008

he is so passionate. he is obama's pitbull. McCain's got O'Reilly and Hannity. Obama's got Olberman and Rachel. It seems pretty fair to me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 10/30/2008

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I can't believe my comments might be in defense of O'Reilly, whom I view as controlling egoist, BUT...his interview of Obama was pretty damned fair. He let Obama answer his questions and treated him with RESPECT, a concept of which neither Olbermann not Maddow have any clue. Hannity has his Colmes and people like Geraldine Ferraro, Lanny Davis and Kirsten Powers are regular contributors to O'Reilly's show. Name just ONE conservative who shows up on Olbermann or Maddow's show...just ONE!! You can't...opposing viewpoints just aren't tolerated on those shows.

How do I know all this stuff? I WATCH...BOTH networks. I don't allow hacks like Robert Greenwald to distort one networks coverage and swallow, hook, line and sinker, the views of Keith and Rachel and Cris like so many people, here, do....

I read how "hateful" everyone on the right is, yet, all I see is hate directed at the right from those claiming to be so tolerant and loving. Yep, I always get a good laugh reading the left's hymnal!

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 10/30/2008

:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 PM on 10/30/2008
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