AP Poll: Obama Leads Or Ties In Eight Crucial States

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BY RON FOURNIER and TREVOR TOMPSON | October 29, 2008 04:18 PM EST | AP

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Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., pauses for a moment while addressing supporters at a rally in Raleigh, N.C., Wednesday, Oct. 29, 2008. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama leads in four states won by President Bush in 2004 and is essentially tied in two other Republican states, according to new AP-GfK battleground polling that suggests most roads to victory are closed to John McCain. Obama could win big.

While no poll can predict next week's results, the AP-GfK surveys explain why Obama is hoping not just for a win but a transcendent victory that remakes the nation's political map. McCain is scrambling to defend states where he wouldn't even be campaigning if the race were closer.

Less than a week before Election Day, the AP-GfK polls show Obama winning among early voters, favored on almost every issue, benefiting from the country's sour mood and widely viewed as the winning candidate by voters in eight crucial states _ Colorado, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Virginia.

"I've never seen the United States in this bad of shape," said Debby Granik, an executive assistant from Las Vegas who voted for Obama last week. "We need change. We need change desperately."

Despite a mounting chorus of Republicans predicting their nominee's demise, McCain aides insist their internal surveys show victory is still within reach.

Indeed, polls are mere snapshots of highly fluid campaigns, and this race has been unusually volatile. McCain was written off prematurely last year, and Obama seemed poised for victory in New Hampshire's Democratic primary just before Hillary Rodham Clinton thumped him.

Even this close to Election Day, racial tensions and the numbers of late-deciding voters identified by the AP-GfK polling leave room for doubt. But the surveys confirm what McCain aides acknowledge privately _ their chances of winning are low.

The polling shows Obama leading in Ohio (7 percentage points), Nevada (12 points), Colorado (9) and Virginia (7), all red states won by Bush that collectively offer 47 electoral votes. Sweeping those four _ or putting together the right combination of two or three _ would almost certainly make Obama president.

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It takes 270 electoral votes to win the White House. Obama can earn 252 by merely reclaiming states won by John Kerry in 2004. There are only two Kerry states still in contention _ Pennsylvania with 21 votes and New Hampshire with four _ and AP-GfK polls show Obama leading both by double digits.

Ohio alone has 20 electoral votes. Nevada has 5, Colorado 9 and Virginia 13.

In addition, Obama is tied with McCain in North Carolina and Florida, according to the AP-GfK polling, two vote-rich states Bush carried in 2004. Obama is throwing his time and money into the Sunshine State, which has 27 votes, part of a strategy to create many routes to victory and push toward a landslide of 300 or more electoral votes. North Carolina has 15 votes.

Independent polling suggests that New Mexico and Iowa, two traditionally GOP states, are out of reach for McCain. Other red states may be creeping away from him and into contention, including Montana.

The bottom line: McCain must overtake Obama in the many red states where he is trailing or tied _ a tall order. Or he needs to gain some breathing room by winning Pennsylvania, where he trails by 12 percentage points, according to the AP-GfK poll.

Many of his own supporters say the race is all but over.

"If you believe in miracles," said GOP consultant Joe Gaylord of Arlington, Va., "you still believe in McCain."

"I get the sense it's shutting down," said Tom Rath, a GOP consultant in New Hampshire where McCain trails by 18 points.

He added, "Where there's a week, there's hope."

A couple of factors might cut McCain's way.

First, there are still a good number of voters are open to changing their minds _ from as low as 4 percent in Nevada to 14 percent in New Hampshire.

Thomas Aelker, a Republican from central Florida who considered voting for Obama, said he's back with McCain. He said of Obama, "I just think his lack of experience will be a detriment."

Second, the impact of race is a hard-to-measure factor as Obama seeks to become the nation's first black president.

In three states _ North Carolina, Florida and Pennsylvania _ the number of white Democrats who said the word "violent" described most blacks hit double digits in the polling.

In those same states, Obama was having trouble winning over white Democrats _ 20 percent of them in North Carolina said they were voting for McCain; 12 percent in Florida and 8 percent in Pennsylvania.

Obama may have coattails. Democrats lead the Senate races in Colorado, New Hampshire and Virginia, according to AP-GfK polls. In North Carolina, GOP Sen. Elizabeth Dole is essentially tied with state Sen. Kay Hagan.

In all four of those Senate races, the Democratic candidate leads among early voters, a sign of a strong ground game driven by the top of the ticket. Obama easily outpaces McCain among early voters, holding about a 2-1 advantage in six of the states.

Obama is favored on almost every issue in every state, the polling says:

_Voters in all eight states gave him the highest marks on whom they trust to fix the economy and improve health care.

_Even on the question of "who would make the right decision about national security," typically a strong suit for McCain, Obama holds a slight lead in Nevada and is running even against his GOP rival in Colorado, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania and Virginia.

_Obama's message of change is playing well among women, especially in Florida where they gave Obama 54 percent of their support in the polling.

Susan Pogue, 56, of West Palm Beach, said McCain lost her vote during the final debate. "When it comes to meeting with world leaders," she said, "I want someone who is not clucking and rolling his eyes."

_By large margins, voters in each of the eight states consider Obama the likely winner Tuesday.

_Voters in each state believe McCain has run a far more negative campaign.

_Seven in 10 Hispanics in Colorado say they are voting for Obama, a margin that could help him win a state that has chosen Democratic presidential candidates just three times since 1948.

The political landscape tilts against McCain. Just 8 percent of voters in New Hampshire think the country is headed in the right direction. Three-quarters of voters in Pennsylvania disapprove of Bush's job performance. Nine in 10 voters in North Carolina are worried about the economy.

"I'm a Bush-generated Democrat," said Connie Lilly of Richmond, Va.

The AP-GfK Battleground State Poll was conducted from Oct. 22-26 in eight states. It involved interviews by landline telephone with likely voters in each state, ranging from 600 in Florida and New Hampshire to 628 in Nevada. The margin of sampling error was plus or minus 3.9 percentage points in Colorado and Nevada, and 4 points in the other states.

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AP Writers Gary D. Robertson in North Carolina, Kathy McCormack in New Hampshire, Kristen Wyatt in Denver, Martha Raffaele in Pennsylvania, John Seewer in Ohio, Brendan Farrington in Florida, Bob Lewis in Virginia and Kathleen Hennessey in Nevada contributed to this story.

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama leads in four states won by President Bush in 2004 and is essentially tied in two other Republican states, according to new AP-GfK battleground polling that suggests mo...
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- MTOrtega I'm a Fan of MTOrtega 2 fans permalink
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McCain is 72. McCain has had four instances of melanoma.

Melanoma is the most serious type of skin cancer.

Will stress lower his immune response causing a recurrence of his skin cancer?

Will a recurrence of McCain’s skin cancer lead to McCain’s incapacitation?

Lead to McCain’s death?

Hasten Palin’s ascension to the Presidency!?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 10/30/2008
- Truthmeter I'm a Fan of Truthmeter 2 fans permalink

Ok, explain this..the race is tightening..yet here on MSM and The Huff they are saying Obamas lead is broadening­...aahhh.T­hat doesn't add up...please explain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 AM on 10/30/2008

Despite a mounting chorus of Republicans predicting their nominee's demise, McCain aides insist their internal surveys show victory is still within reach.

And the Russians are retreating on the eastern while the allies have been pushed back into the sea at Normandie.

You have to kinda patronize McCain to avoid the termper tantrum!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 10/30/2008

I have this nightmare that Bush has Bin Laden chained up in the wine cellar at Camp David, and he's going to let McCain drag him around the Mall Sunday or Monday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 AM on 10/30/2008
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THE POLL MATH IS WRONG! EARLY VOTING CHANGES A LOT!

In those states that have early voting, the polls have to take into account that the gap between the two candidates poll numbers actually represents a LARGER difference that the trailing candidate has to make up among the remaining voters.

In other words, where Obama has a 5 point lead in a state where half of voters have already voted, then McCain has effectively a 10 point deficit to makeup from the remaining voters.

Let's say there are 100,000 people that would vote, divided at the moment according to the polls 52-48% against McCain - a difference of 4% points. If McCain wants to catch up, he'd need 4% of 100,000 voters which is 4,000 votes. But 50,000 have already voted. If he gained only 4% of the remaining 50,000, he'll come up short by 2%.with only 2,000 votes. McCain would need to DOUBLE the percentage number! He'd need to capture 8% of the remaining voters!

I don't think pollsters are taking this math of diminishing returns into account.

If polls show a 6% gap, and ONE THIRD have voted then the real make-up difference has to be multiplied by 33%: it would be 8% not 6%.

The deficit McCain has to make-up in early-vote-states is greater than the actual deficit showing in present-time polls. Obama's effective lead is even greater than polls show!

Shoud be a HUGE surprise to Republicans next week.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 AM on 10/30/2008
- JustLynn I'm a Fan of JustLynn 9 fans permalink

If you have problems of ANY kind at the polls on Tuesday, DO NOT LEAVE the booth you are in...call over a polling place official and make them investigate the problem...use the camera on your cell phone and take pictures if you need to...or call 1-800-OUR-VOTE... and it is ABSOLUTELY LE*GAL for you to take one person of your choosing into the booth with you to help you....dont let anyone tell you it isn't ok.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 AM on 10/30/2008

Great advice, especially the idea of a witness to what happens. We should go back to paper ballots so that the votes are all legitimate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 10/30/2008

I had the choice and went with paper, I don't dare trust my vote to an electric malfunctioning machine. I suggest if you can, go with paper.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:37 PM on 10/30/2008
- CeeCee I'm a Fan of CeeCee 38 fans permalink

"Thomas Aelker, a Republican from central Florida who considered voting for Obama, said he's back with McCain. He said of Obama, "I just think his lack of experience will be a detriment."

WTF? Back with McCain. After all that c rap?

Give me strength.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 AM on 10/30/2008

http://www.pubrecord.org/sarah-palin/438-ethics-complaint-filed-against-palin-over-daughters-travel-expenses-.html

Ethics Complaint Filed Against Palin Over Daughters Travel Expenses

An Anchorage, Alaska resident has filed an ethics complaint against Gov. Sarah Palin with the state’s attorney general, alleging Palin misused her position by using taxpayer dollars to pay for her children to travel with her on state business.

Frank Gwartney, a retired lineman, sent a three-page complaint directly to Attorney General Talis Colberg on Oct. 24 “requesting that the state Personnel Board investigate Gov. Palin improper and illegal use of her official position for personal gain.”

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 10/30/2008

I have lived in northern Ohio my entire life and been a loyal Democrat. The best news I have heard is that Obama has a path to electoral victory without Ohio. No Democratic candidate will win Ohio, as much as I hate to admit it. I have seen the politics in my home state change dramatically in the past 40 or so years.
In the 1960's, 1970's and early 1980's Ohio was very similar to Michigan and Pennsylvania-a reliably Democratic state. Back then we had strong union membership with the UAW, USW and others. Their ground game and get-out-the-vote organizations were unsurpassed. However, with the demise of the auto and steel industries here in Ohio, that all disintegrated.
We have gone from John Glenn, Howard Metzenbaum and Dick Celeste to...George Voinivich, Mike DeWine and Bob Taft. Thank God for Sherrod Brown and Ted Strickland.
In the past decade the southern portion of the state, from Columbus to Cincinatti, has wielded the majority of the voting clout. Down there there are a great many born-again evangelicals who vote on cultural issues. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I realize there are some generalizations in this analysis, but there is no doubt that I have witnessed my state go from one akin to Michigan and Pennsylvania to one more like Mississippi and Alabama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 PM on 10/29/2008

I have lived in Cincinnati for 9 years. When people ask me how I like living here I tell them it is like living in Mississipi in the 1940's. I have a great job and great friends and until the campaign, I was content to live here. After talking to people here on the phone and my "friends" about the election, I think this is my last year in this state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 AM on 10/30/2008

After having learned of the latest poll numbers, my wife and I just looked at each other while grinning ear to ear. I immediately pictured Obama and Michele looking at each other --the same affectionate way that they always do--and in unison, the 4 of us said out loud "Can you believe this?!?!?!?"

We believe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 PM on 10/29/2008
- Truthmeter I'm a Fan of Truthmeter 2 fans permalink

OMG, so sick. Did you get thrill up your leg too!!! Grow up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 AM on 10/30/2008
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I've just listened to Rachel Maddow show and found out that voters under the age of 30 are not turning out in huge numbers during early voting. This is a HUGE MISTAKE given the amount of voter suppression during the election that is often targeted towards minorities and college students. If you are (or know) a college student who is registered and is in a state that has early voting, please go (or tell the student to go) to the polls NOW !! There is already discrepancies floating around where people are being turned away from the polls because their address or information for registration does not match their mailing address or their ID information. If you run into any of those issues, you can get them straightened out and vote during early voting. Some states like North Carolina will even allow you to register and vote on the same day before the election. However, if you wait until election day, you will be pushed towards a provisional ballot and there is a HIGHLY probable chance that your vote WILL NOT be counted. If you are in a state that does not have early voting, call and make sure that your information is correct, find out the laws in your state, and KNOW YOUR RIGHTS. Do NOT wait until the day before election to do this. DO IT NOW !! The McCain campaign is counting on a low voter turnout for those 24 and younger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 10/29/2008

Young voters have never turned out to vote. This happens every 4 years. People get all excited about registration and are always disappointed. How many times does this have to happen before we realize that it will never change?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 10/29/2008

That's not true youth vote has been going up by at least 10% during the last two presidential elections. Then look at the primaries where Hillary actual thank the youth vote for many of her wins. www.yda.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 10/30/2008
- Pupster I'm a Fan of Pupster 12 fans permalink

The Las Vegas Review-Journal is reporting that the youth, the new and Hispanic voters are lagging in early voting in NEVADA!!!

NEVADA VOLUNTEERS -- YOU NEED TO GET OBAMA VOTERS TO THE POLLS!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 10/29/2008
- Pete2069 I'm a Fan of Pete2069 20 fans permalink

How can the democrats have so many new voters registering , and be up in all polls for Obama , have the highest early turnout in history and yet Obama is only leading by around 1 point..
The fix is in and another election stolen in the republicans column....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 10/29/2008

He is leading by 6 pts in realclearpolitics poll and up by 9 in the gallup expanded, which reflects 2008 voting vs the traditional Gallup which is only registered voters. Not sure where you got up by 1 pt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 10/29/2008
- pegbo I'm a Fan of pegbo 5 fans permalink

I just love Claire McCaskil. We have a senator here in MN that is a lot like her. Amy Klobuchar. I am going to work every 6 years to keep it that way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 10/29/2008
- pegbo I'm a Fan of pegbo 5 fans permalink

This thing is bringing tears to my eyes. We have to do this people. I don't think I can stand it if he doesn't win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 10/29/2008
- AnalyzeIT I'm a Fan of AnalyzeIT 63 fans permalink
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We're not quite there yet; but boy, WHAT A MAN!!!

obama-biden

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 10/29/2008
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