Iraq's Security Agreement Demands Revealed: No US Attacks On Neighbors

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QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA | October 29, 2008 01:22 PM EST | AP

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BAGHDAD — Iraq wants a security agreement with the U.S. to include a clear ban on U.S. troops using Iraqi territory to attack Iraq's neighbors, the government spokesman said Wednesday, three days after a dramatic U.S. raid on Syria.

Also Wednesday, the country's most influential Shiite cleric expressed concerned that Iraqi sovereignty be protected in the pact. Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani wields vast influence among the Shiite majority and his explicit opposition could scuttle the deal.

Government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said the ban was among four proposed amendments to the draft agreement approved by the Cabinet this week and forwarded to the U.S.

President Bush said Wednesday that the U.S. had received and negotiators were analyzing the Iraqis' proposed amendments to the so-called Status of Forces Agreement.

"We obviously want to be helpful and constructive without undermining basic principles," Bush said in the Oval Office during a meeting with Massoud Barzani, the president of the semiautonomous Kurdish region in northern Iraq. "I remain very open and confident that the SOFA will get passed."

Al-Dabbagh said the Iraqis want the right to declare the agreement null and void if the U.S. unilaterally attacks one of Iraq's neighbors.

U.S. troops launched a daring daylight attack Sunday a few miles into Syrian territory against what U.S. officials said was a key figure in al-Qaida's operation that moves foreign fighters and weapons into Iraq.

A senior U.S. official said the al-Qaida figure, an Iraqi known as Abu Ghadiyah, was killed. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the raid was classified. Syria says eight civilians died and has demanded an apology.

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For nearly two weeks, Iraqi politicians have been considering the draft security agreement, which would keep U.S. troops in Iraq through 2011 unless both sides agree that they could stay longer.

The pact would also give the Iraqis a greater role in supervising U.S. military operations and allow Iraqi courts to try U.S. soldiers and contractors accused of major crimes off duty and off base.

But critics say the current version, reached after months of tough negotiations, does not go far enough in protecting Iraqi sovereignty, and key Shiite politicians argue it stands little chance of approval in Iraq's fractious parliament in its current form.

The agreement must be approved by the end of the year when the current U.N. mandate expires or the U.S. military would have to suspend all operations in Iraq.

"There's really no area that we as a coalition ... operate in that is not governed by legal authority," U.S. military spokesman Brig. Gen. David Perkins said.

Perkins said the U.S. military presence enables other international organizations including the U.N. and private groups to do their jobs.

"These things are all interrelated," Perkins said. "You pull one pillar out, you seriously degrade the efforts of others."

Al-Dabbagh said other amendments sought by the Iraqis include a clear definition of "duty" when cases arise involving crimes committed off base. The Iraqis also want to inspect all U.S. military shipments entering or leaving Iraq.

"The Americans must realize that these changes are necessary to enable the government to persuade the people to accept the agreement," al-Dabbagh said.

The Iraqis insist those measures are essential to convince the public that the government is truly sovereign, a theme repeated by al-Sistani.

A statement issued by his office said the Iranian-born cleric wants to ensure that "Iraq's sovereignty not be breached" by the accord and that he was monitoring the situation "until the final content of the security agreement becomes clear."

The U.S. military, meanwhile, handed over security responsibilities for the southern province of Wasit to Iraqi authorities. Wasit was the 13th of Iraq's 18 provinces to revert to Iraqi security control.

U.S. and Iraqi forces have been jointly seeking to shut down arms smuggling routes from Iran that use Wasit as a transit point. The weapons are thought to be going to Shiite militant groups.

The No. 2 U.S. commander in Iraq, Lt. Gen. Lloyd Austin, told the handover ceremony that Wasit seven months ago saw a weekly average of up to 18 attacks but now goes for weeks without an incident.

"The security conditions in Wasit province greatly affect the security of Baghdad and many other parts of the country." said Austin. "In the last few years, enemies have attempted to move their weapons and explosives through this province to attack Iraqi security forces and coalition forces in other parts of the country."

BAGHDAD — Iraq wants a security agreement with the U.S. to include a clear ban on U.S. troops using Iraqi territory to attack Iraq's neighbors, the government spokesman said Wednesday, three day...
BAGHDAD — Iraq wants a security agreement with the U.S. to include a clear ban on U.S. troops using Iraqi territory to attack Iraq's neighbors, the government spokesman said Wednesday, three day...
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- CaptD I'm a Fan of CaptD 20 fans permalink
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I will be astounded if this agreement gets passed by the Iraqis at all (and amazed if it gets signed by GWB), that is why the Iraqis want the US to sign it first!. We should NOT sign it unless the Iraqis are also signing it at the same time/location...
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The Iraqis will wait to see if they can get a better "deal" from Obama; and use it as leverage so he will appear to be "failing" to get this first agreement/pact signed!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 11/05/2008
- XME I'm a Fan of XME 26 fans permalink
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So much for this, considering Bush has already broken it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 AM on 10/30/2008
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This just goes to show the foolishness of the Bush Boy Iraq War. He knocked off Saddam only to see Iran emerge as the real power in Iraq. He tore down the existing state to build , no not a secular western style state but a religious state. Forgetting that in that religion, of that part of the world we westerners are inherintly an enemy. The Iraqi demand is to protect Syria and Iran from the United States military. Such graditude!

Edwards and Obama has it right. Get out and get out now. The unspoken end result is the nuts will kill themselves off and that will make us a little more secure over here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 AM on 10/30/2008
- Danny I'm a Fan of Danny 5 fans permalink

If the Iraqis were to say "no agreement" on U.S. demands, the result would be that the U.S. would huffily take their marbles (troops, mercenaries, military equipment) and go home, and the Iraqis would jump and shout "free at last, free at last, thank Allah, we're free at last!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 10/29/2008
- Rapid Ray I'm a Fan of Rapid Ray 18 fans permalink
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Nonsensical request.

They are asking the United States for blanket immunity and a non-aggression pact for sovereign nations based on what...shared borders?

Since when does a foreign country set international policy for our government?

AND WHEN THE HELL DID WE EVER HAVE TO NEGOTIATE A WITHDRAWAL?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 10/29/2008
- Tom Payned I'm a Fan of Tom Payned 95 fans permalink
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I keep saying that the easiest way for us to get out of Iraq with a win, is to play tough, not give in to the Iraqis, make the security agreement so onerous that the Iraqi government will not accept it.

That way we can claim we have done what we set out to do, get rid of Saddam, create a sovereign government able to make their own calls. That the government and the Iraqi people have opted to and are willing to provide for their own security after 7 years.

That way, no one can claim we "cut and run" or were defeated. We then move however many troops we need into Afghanistan, concentrate on securing the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan keeping Al Qaeda out of Afghanistan and build relationships with the different factions near the mountains.

It's a win win situation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 10/29/2008
- CaptD I'm a Fan of CaptD 20 fans permalink
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+ Consider this:
Establish a date, say 01/01/09 - from that date onward we charge Iraq our daily costs to help THEM bring this war to what they consider a fair "end". We would get oil credits/product until we have been paid back - this would encourage Iraq's leadership to not waste any time/$ (and human lives).

We are only asking what is FAIR in return; why should the US pay it's sub contractors a fair price if Iraq is not willing to repay US's FAIR costs...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 11/05/2008
- Scarabus I'm a Fan of Scarabus 13 fans permalink
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Lots of chaff in this post, but it comes down to the nexus among and weighting of a number of factors: justice, honor, respect, legality, strategy, tactics, ….

For the U.S. to try to profit from bullying and extortion ("dire consequences" if Iraq refuses to kowtow, according to Mullen--whom I used to respect) is myopic in terms both of morality and of reality. Rational Americans are about honest negotiation, not bullying; hope, not despair; compassion, not cruelty; courage, not fear; love, not hate....

Is there a chance that our nation will reclaim its place in the world as a beacon of true, honest democracy? as a beacon of morality? I'm not holding my breath, but I do see a glimmer of hope.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 10/29/2008

"The Americans must realize that these changes are necessary to enable the government to persuade the people to accept the agreement"

They're not referring to the Iraqi people are they? I mean, come on....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 10/29/2008
- Ron1951 I'm a Fan of Ron1951 10 fans permalink
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It looks like on 1/1/09 we will become official "occupiers" of a soverign country with no U.N. mandate to hide behind anymore. That's a return to colonialism in the eyes of most of the world. Obama can't get into office soon enough to reverse the negative trend of world opinion about our great country. Thanks again, George.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 10/29/2008
- Moshe I'm a Fan of Moshe 216 fans permalink
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We have been occupiers in the eyes of most of the world since day one.

Only where and when enough people were still drinking the neo-con WMD kool-aid, did the Iraq invasion sell as anything other than an illegal attack and occupation.

The neo-cons have left Obama a steaming pile of crap on everything from the the war in Iraq to the economy, and by Nov. 5th, even months before he takes office, the reich-wing neo-con talking heads will be blaming Obama for the whole mess.

And all the "Joe the Plumbers" "Hockey Moms" etc. will be mindlessly repeating the talking points.

Nonetheless, Obama needs to press forward and end the nighmare in Iraq, and we need to boot as many neo-cons from the Senate as we can so we can end this fiasco and stop the war profiteering, waste, and counterproductive and needless loss of life.

Defense is sometimes necessary, but continuing an unnecessary and pointless war is evil.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 10/29/2008
- fcsakes I'm a Fan of fcsakes 98 fans permalink
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Why would bushie be adverse to "...violating basic principles..." now? It hasn't bothered him for the last eight years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 10/29/2008
- OCKerouac I'm a Fan of OCKerouac 5 fans permalink

This, like all policy being dictated by leaders of foreign governments isn't really FOR Bush, it's for the REAL president we'll be picking next week...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 10/29/2008
- TKFraz I'm a Fan of TKFraz 2 fans permalink

No attack on neighbors?

--Folks they do no dictate American policy under any circumstances! (Sorry, this is the republican in me coming out)

--Time to get out, now! Give them their country back. Let 'em sink or swim.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 10/29/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 152 fans permalink

I agree that we need to get out but the crimes of Bush/Cheney are going to make that an extremely dicey proposition.

But to say that Iraqi's should have no say over attacks carried out from their sovereign territory?

Thats is crazy. Do YOU remember the Iran/Iraq War?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 10/29/2008
- PineyWoods I'm a Fan of PineyWoods 5 fans permalink
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But as to your first point, the United States does not make foreign policy decisions in a vacuum. This is one of the key lessons of the past 8 disastrous years. It's not that people dictate terms to us ... it that we listen and factor the needs of other nations into our decision-making. International relations isn't a zero-sum game, in my opinion -- that's too simplistic.

And having John Rambo as president doesn't work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 10/29/2008
- OCKerouac I'm a Fan of OCKerouac 5 fans permalink

The statement is kind of a misnomer... They are saying that the US cannot use Iraq as a base from which to attack Iraqs neighbors, not saying the US has no right to defend itself against aggression from Iran or Syria. The deal has to be a non-starter for the Iraqi people if this isn't included. They can never hope to regain any sense of security in the region if Iran and Syria think they're justa glorified US base of operations...

That being said, I agree with your last point. It's time to go and give them back their country to run as they see fit...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 10/29/2008
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Dude, all countries have this right.

Why should Iraq be different?

Every country has the right to say who launches military operations from their OWN country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 10/29/2008
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"(Sorry, this is the republican in me coming out)"

Try and repress it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 10/29/2008
- miriada I'm a Fan of miriada 2 fans permalink

Timely action from the Iraqi government... But there are other possibilities to "poke the bear" in 3 days before the election. Like to repeat the Georgia assault on South Ossetia or Abkhazia. Or - much worse - another puppet's - ukrainian president's assault on Crimea (his own sitizens also). Then raise the hell in the world media about "unproportionate response". Anything to make McCain look "competent" and justify his aggressiveness... How many more sacrifices he needs? Geez!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 10/29/2008
- zaz33 I'm a Fan of zaz33 32 fans permalink

The overwhelming majority of Iraqis want ALL our troops to leave.

The majority of Americans want ALL our troops to leave.

Allegedly, both countries are democracies that respect the will of the people.

I rest my case.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 PM on 10/29/2008
- Dunworkin I'm a Fan of Dunworkin 3 fans permalink

There are twelve people in washington d.c. that should be tried for WAR crimes and start at the top.
Obama was right when he voted NOT to invade Iraq,now we have killed over 4000+ americans and injured maybe 30,000 more and no one knows for sure how many innocent Iraq people.Now Bush is going to inter into a agreement that will let the Iraq people deciede how we fight,who we fight, and if we screw up our soliders could go to a Iraq prison for life or be hanged, I say to hell with them get out and let them sink or swim on their own.No one back in history has ever won a religious war many have tried and lost.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 10/29/2008
- Durango I'm a Fan of Durango 152 fans permalink

So what does Bush/Cheney do?

Goes right out and attacks Syria.

I would say it was unbelievable except the past 8 years show that it is not.

And what might be the motivation for such a clause in the agreement?

Anyone in the Administration or the Corporate media even remember the Iraqi/Iranian War? Because iI guarantee that there are millions of Iraqia and Iranians who remember far too well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 10/29/2008
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