Banks asking for credit card debt forgiveness

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BY MARCY GORDON | October 30, 2008 05:31 PM EST | AP

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WASHINGTON — With defaults on credit card debt spiraling amid a global financial downturn, banks already reeling from the mortgage crisis are losing billions more from unpaid credit card bills.

Big banks have formed an unusual alliance with consumer advocates to urge the government to allow huge portions of credit card debt to be forgiven, a turnabout from recent years when the banking industry lobbied strenuously to make it harder for consumers to erase their credit card debts in bankruptcy.

The new pilot program _ which the banks hope will become permanent _ could involve as many as 50,000 people struggling with credit card debt. On an individual basis, the amount of debt to be forgiven would rise according to the severity of the borrower's financial situation, up to a maximum of 40 percent.

"There's obviously a financial benefit to the financial institutions to step up to the plate right now," said Susan Keating, president and chief executive of the National Foundation for Credit Counseling, which has 108 member organizations around the country. "We absolutely support the proposal."

In an increasingly tough economic climate, banks and other mortgage lenders already have been agreeing to modify loans of distressed homeowners to help them avoid foreclosure. Now, banks making credit card loans have reached a point where they can lose less by forgiving part of the debt than seeing the consumer walk away entirely.

Credit cards _ the ubiquitous plastic rectangles that have become an integral part of American life and the economy _ now look to be the latest domino to drop in a financial crisis that started with subprime mortgages and continually takes new twists.

Amid rising job losses, consumers _ even those with strong credit records _ have been defaulting at high levels on their credit cards. Banks already battered by the mortgage and credit crises are bleeding tens of billions in red ink from the losses. The largest credit-card banks each set aside between $1 billion and $3.5 billion in the third quarter for losses on card loans as their profits plummeted.

The biggest credit card lenders include Discover Financial Services LLC, Bank of America Corp., Citigroup Inc., JPMorgan Chase & Co., Capital One Financial Corp., American Express Co. and HSBC Holdings.

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Credit card charge-off rates, balances written off as unpaid, rose to 6.8 percent in August, up 48 percent from a year earlier, according to Moody's Investors Service.

Americans are lumbering under about $900 billion in credit card debt, according to the latest available Federal Reserve figures. People who are in credit counseling, on average, carry seven cards.

Many of the people now having trouble making their credit card payments are in a double or triple whammy: their mortgages or car loans also may be under stress.

And for many, the torrent of envelopes bearing credit card offers at low initial rates _ much like the old "teaser" rates on subprime mortgages _ has recently been replaced by more somber notices of crimped credit lines, hikes in interest rates or even accounts being closed as lenders tighten the reins to reduce their risk.

The new proposal pitched to federal regulators by the Financial Services Roundtable, which represents more than 100 big banks and other financial companies, and the Consumer Federation of America, would allow lenders to reduce by as much as 40 percent the amount of credit card debt owed by deeply indebted consumers in a pilot program.

It recognizes that "there are some critical problems with credit card debt," said Bert Ely, a banking industry consultant based in Alexandria, Va. "We're going to see more of these efforts to try to minimize the situation."

Under the groups' proposal to U.S. Comptroller of the Currency John Dugan, whose Treasury Department agency oversees national banks, a pilot project would allow big credit card companies to sharply reduce the amounts owed by consumers in over their heads who don't qualify for the repayment plans now available.

Nearly all the biggest credit card banks have agreed to such a pilot program in which lenders would forgive as much as 40 percent of the amount consumers owe, allowing them to pay back the remainder over time.

The test program could reach as many as 50,000 borrowers, said Scott Talbott, senior vice president at the Roundtable. Borrowers would have to be in a counseling program for their credit card debt. The amount of debt to be forgiven would be determined case by case, depending on the borrower's financial condition; those receiving close to the maximum forgiveness level would be nearing a personal bankruptcy filing.

And there would be a tax benefit. Borrowers would be able to defer payment of income taxes they owe on the forgiven part of the debt until after the remainder was paid off. The lenders could wait until then to book their loss on the forgiven debt.

"Both parties win," Talbott said.

Current government rules don't allow lenders to offer repayment plans that reduce the amount of principal owed and borrowers to repay the balance over a period of several years. In cases where the principal can be reduced, under credit card settlements, borrowers normally are required to pay off the remainder over months rather than years.

Kevin Mukri, a spokesman for the comptroller's office, had no immediate comment on the new proposal Thursday. Peter Garuccio, a spokesman for the American Bankers Association, also declined to comment.

June Selby, who nearly filed for bankruptcy three years ago when she was buried under nearly $32,000 in school loans, saw both sides but said she didn't like the idea of anyone getting a free ride.

Selby, 60, worked with credit counselors to pay off nearly half the balance and is on track to be debt free by 2011.

"If (the proposal) makes it possible to maintain a sense of integrity and pay back debt without going into bankruptcy, that's one thing," said Selby, a certified nurse in Lawrenceville, Ga.

But she said she was against the idea of a free handout for people who've simply been irresponsible.

"There just has to be some accountability. Nobody is bailing me out. I had to work very hard to keep from bankruptcy and foreclosure," she said.

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AP Business Writer Candice Choi in New York contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — With defaults on credit card debt spiraling amid a global financial downturn, banks already reeling from the mortgage crisis are losing billions more from unpaid credit card bills. ...
WASHINGTON — With defaults on credit card debt spiraling amid a global financial downturn, banks already reeling from the mortgage crisis are losing billions more from unpaid credit card bills. ...
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Sudden compassion? I think not...
The corporate world starts singing Kumbaya when they know a huge political shift is coming- to head off long-overdue regulation in the hopes that the backlash won't be so severe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 10/30/2008

Geez...can we get a piece of that?


I'm sick of this crap.

What about the rest of us?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 10/30/2008

Well this is just too much. Clearly my husband and I really mismanaged our lives - we've budgeted and saved our whole lives, always maxing out our retirement accounts before making "fun" purchases, never carrying credit card debt, living modestly in small apartments while we saved to make a 20% down payment on our home with a traditional 30-year fixed mortgage, building a small business from scratch and growing it entirely on internally generated capital, creating 250 jobs along the way. We were just at the point where we thought we could loosen up and enjoy the rewards of our hard work and thriftiness. And now? We're getting dragged along with everyone else into the toilet of this economy. Too bad, life happens, businesses fail, but who will bail us out? No one. We have so much to lose if our business fails - our home, our savings - when others who partied hard and ran up credit card debt will actually end up better off.

I used to tell my young children the story of the ant and the grasshopper, but in this world it seems like the grasshopper is going to win after all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 10/30/2008

exactly Worldneedshope...nobody bailed us out. We got no hand outs.

The risk of failure is usually associated with a business plan for any business...why should I bail out someone who doesn't want to face the fact that their business failed or that my neighbor wanted to prove they were better than me by buying everything in site on a credit card and can't pay it off now? Is that my responsibility?

Wow! That's a lotta nerve.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 10/30/2008
- Myshkin57 I'm a Fan of Myshkin57 17 fans permalink

The Banks did it to themselves. I use credit cards sparingly but I have friends who had to use them to pay all of their bills for a while. They got over their limit and suddenly the interest got so high that they could not make the minimum payments and then just stopped paying. If the banks had sane policies about repayment, they might get repaid. As it is, they'd rather have the charge-offs so they can stick it to the government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 10/30/2008
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Would any forgiven debt be deemed "taxable income"? I once looked at that idea and, tallying the numbers, would have not been any better off.

And, yes, only 50000 people - I'm going back to siding with Republicans; why can't banks pay for this by themselves as they and their (previous) politician supporters kept telling everyone else to do it the same way?

Just wait until baseball managers whine they can't pay their players $250 mil a pop...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 10/30/2008
- Tom95134 I'm a Fan of Tom95134 54 fans permalink
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50,000 people struggling with credit card debt? That's such a small number of cards I don't see why they bother. Oh, I forgot, the banks are simply trying to shift the burden of their screw-ups to the public sector.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 10/30/2008

what???? after charging millions of dollars interests and making profits for years, they now want to be bailed out at the first opportunity.

sure what the h.....

give 200 billions to the man....

he needs a bonus this year

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 10/30/2008
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Don't worry. 50% of Americans divorce at the first argument and take whatever they can in the process too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 10/30/2008
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